BMW E86 Z4M: The German TVR. Shooting Brake’s UK road review

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    Here at SB, we've always wondered why BMWs Z car's are often overlooked as opposed to their 3 series counterparts. With less weight, a quicker steering rack and less of the issues the E46 chassis faces, surely the E85 Z4 M is the winning choice?
    We took this great example onto some Welsh mountain roads to see what it's really like. You can bid on this very car by heading over to shootingbrake.com/ and registering. It takes only one minute and you could get this 'German TVR' on your driveway.
    Filmed, edited and produced by Iftikhar Khan @77cbi
    Directed, written and presented by Ghaleb Rahim @ghaleboncars
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  • @123Hasse
    @123Hasse ปีที่แล้ว +18

    😊 Same brakes as M3 E46 CSL, not the smaller ones as on standard M3. Great review!

  • @theurbanegentleman4550
    @theurbanegentleman4550 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Great video on BMWs most underrated sports car! I really appreciate your sophisticated analysis of the suspension and dynamics; you hit the nail on the head and concluded much the same as me who’s owned a coupe for several years now. Driving a modified version like this with the Airbox, proper suspension, and ZCP wheels makes a world of difference to stock however, and you likely wouldn’t have liked it as much in that configuration, like all the journalists did when it came out. Chris Harris famously trashed this car, sealing its fate as a forgotten M car.

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s sad to see a lot of cars fall under the radar due to them just needing a little fettling to reach their full potential. M cars inherently have a good chassis so we knew the Z4 M was no exception and we’re glad to hear from an owner that we’ve done the car justice. Hopefully more people get to enjoy this video and see how great of a car the Z4 M is!
      Thank you for your kind words and we’re glad you enjoyed watching. Wishing you many more happy miles in your coupe!

  • @ghaleboncars
    @ghaleboncars ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a die hard E46 M3 owner I've been curious to try a Z4M for ages. Wasn't disappointed with this one - shocked at how different it feels to the E46, and the edgier handling is exciting without being scary. That carbon airbox is absolutely obscene, as is the S54's ever present 8,000RPM red-line. Whoever buys this will be lucky to have the privilege to hear that induction note whenever they choose...

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  ปีที่แล้ว

      We couldn't agree more!

    • @mariusbagd
      @mariusbagd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In what way Z4M feels different to e46 M3?

    • @jjchockey
      @jjchockey 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mariusbagdshorter wheelbase, less weight, quicker steering rack. It’s a more edgy playful car.

    • @1anre
      @1anre 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is the carbon airbox, stock from bmw ?

  • @thomaslcmt
    @thomaslcmt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It is an honest review on a totally forgoten M car. I totally love mine and I could not see myself replacing it. The fact it can be temperamental at the limit makes the drive totally unique and alive.

  • @AsianGamerzz
    @AsianGamerzz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don’t think I’ll ever get bored of listening to an S54 singing away! 🤌🏼

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We could listen to it all day…🫶🏽

  • @theunitedway8594
    @theunitedway8594 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Huge respect to my brother Iftikhar for Shooting this stunning footage.❤

  • @TheManmoths
    @TheManmoths ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great content! Subbed! As a Z4M owner myself, I can fully agree with all of that 😂

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Awesome! Thank you!

  • @davida8713
    @davida8713 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video. Pretty spot on review. I use to change cars every couple years. Had my Z4MCoupe for 12.5yrs. Yes it’s not perfect, but that’s what makes it special and gets under you skin. Wish there were more reviews on these.

  • @willisan
    @willisan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Every day I have to find reasons to not buy this carbon fiber intake. This video might be the end of me lol. Awesome review, and agree with everything you said! On perfect weather days I sometimes think about what the Roadster would be like, but every time I approach the fastback lines of the coupe, I'm reminded of why I went for it.

  • @markstemmett5296
    @markstemmett5296 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have one in South Africa with 16000km in showroom condition for sale

  • @niyaz786rahman
    @niyaz786rahman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn’t expect myself to sit through the entire video but boy was this really enjoyable!👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

  • @lancemannion4113
    @lancemannion4113 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Brilliant review on an outstanding car! I've had 11 BMWs including a 1999 'clownshoe' Z3M coupe. I was prepared to make the Z4M my latest BMW but I just couldn't afford to get into one up here in Canada (rare! - and at $35000, minimum...) I loved everything about it. Even the hatch space! So instead i had to 'compromise' with the 3.0si coupe with sport suspension. Black on black leather. With instead the 260hp N52, I'm never yearning for more power, oddly? Very torquey down low, with some saying it's in some ways more enjoyable as a daily because of the grunt down low, as opposed to up top like the M. The N52 has a (partial?) magnesium block which saves something like 140 pounds on the front end so the weight distribution is even better! Often quoted as 80% of the M coupe with 50% the maintenence costs. I've got zero complaints so far. So to those that can't quite make the financial leap to the Z4 holy grail, don't disregard the little brother 😁

    • @1anre
      @1anre 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ever driven the GR86? It’s a good drive too

    • @chrispapanastasopoulos9192
      @chrispapanastasopoulos9192 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. Much cheaper to maintain. And initial price for mine was $8000 last year (Florida car). Yes, I had to take care of the oil leaks that seemed to come from any and all orifices and some other fixes, but now that all that is behind me I can enjoy the top down driving here in a month or so.

  • @Aston8V
    @Aston8V 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video! 👏. You explain (much better than I could) exactly why I own one. It’s a fantastic car. Having owned an M3 too so can compare in the same way. Def a future classic. I won’t be selling mine anytime soon! Keep up the great work.

  • @dimitrithomas
    @dimitrithomas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    great review, nice video!

  • @carmadnab
    @carmadnab ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ahh the lust to drive one of these

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  ปีที่แล้ว

      Place a bid and make it yours!

  • @morris2755
    @morris2755 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aw, I live in Llangynidr at the bottom of the hill from where you shot most of this. If I'd known, I'd have let you also look at my Z4M coupe

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  ปีที่แล้ว

      Small world! You’re very lucky to have those roads on your doorstep as well as a great car to match. We’ll be back in the area for sure 😉

  • @timrodierides
    @timrodierides ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cracking video chaps!

  • @pereldh5741
    @pereldh5741 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great film & spot on.. I love how special my M Coupe feel, and looks! Still feel solid after 200000km too. The fast oversteer/widowmaker thing comes mainly from the shorter wheelbase (than the M3)

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to hear you’re enjoying many miles in your M Coupe!

  • @12harooney
    @12harooney ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic example!

  • @groundedgremlinrc7005
    @groundedgremlinrc7005 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a fantastic film. Bravo, Shooting Brake - my first time coming across your content, and I am now keenly subscribed.
    As a Z3 owner, I marvel at the number of detractors Z cars have. Blending the top-down fun and handsome styling of a roadster (Miata, S2000) with the torque, sound and usability especially inherent to straight-six 3 Series cars. Both the Z3 and E85 Z4 are now significantly discounted compared to their competition - all the better I say, because nothing I’ve experienced comes close for smiles-per-mile.

    • @groundedgremlinrc7005
      @groundedgremlinrc7005 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention the assy handling!!

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your kind words! Glad to hear you enjoyed it and well said about Z cars. They are for sure under appreciated gems in the market.

  • @MrRoyck10
    @MrRoyck10 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The E46 M is greater but the E86 is a bit greater, edgier, twitchy on the limits, a more demanding car to drive, currently driving a Porsche with precise high speed stability but the trills of the E86 M is legendary.

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree on all counts

  • @oursonvie
    @oursonvie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this is where the new Supra came from

  • @1anre
    @1anre 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I respect the Z4M a lot & will own one some day

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Highly recommend!

  • @WBKidsInternational
    @WBKidsInternational ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like the Batmobile!

  • @joedoe
    @joedoe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MY BRUDDA!!

    • @joedoe
      @joedoe ปีที่แล้ว

      great video

  • @schankam
    @schankam หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thinking about selling my ND2 Miata for this car, opinions?
    Yes the BMW has more power, is a 6 cylinders engine (one of the most legendary), and will probably increase in value. However, I love the dynamic of the Miata so much that it is for me one of the best car ever built. Will I miss it?

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think you are on the right track in understanding the dichotomy between the two cars. The Z4M is an exciting and powerful car with a masterpiece of an engine but you may miss the sweetness and dynamic poise of the ND2. I would recommend moving towards Porsche if you're looking for a dynamic upgrade from something as focused as an ND2.

    • @schankam
      @schankam หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@shootingbrake Interesting take about the Porsche, I actually also had a 982 Boxster in mind. Was thinking Alpine as well but turbo ain’t for me, I love high rev NA engine too much. Thanks a lot for answering, kinda makes me wanna keep my ND2 in the end 😊 (btw, I have the BBR 220 upgrade so the car feels actually quite powerful already)

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@schankam Sounds like a fantastic car with the BBR package, enjoy!

  • @richardolson3509
    @richardolson3509 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Was there ever a retractable hardtop?

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only on the later generation. This generation was only available with a soft-top roadster (also available with a removable one piece hardtop) or a fastback Coupe

  • @user-gl5ld9vm7i
    @user-gl5ld9vm7i ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Reason = Z4M is more expensive.

    • @glenmiester
      @glenmiester 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bingo!

  • @Jonathan-mk1ju
    @Jonathan-mk1ju 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My Z4 e86 3ltr Si beats your E46 M3 #JustSaying 😂

  • @tarquin161234
    @tarquin161234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just think it's not a good looking car, despite the driving experience. The front is so bad. Who designed that horrible horizontal bonnet line?
    Would rather the Z3m, or 1m if going for 4 seats

    • @shootingbrake
      @shootingbrake  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's definitely a divisive design. I think they look great in person, particularly in real life contexts. Crucially I think they are one of those cars for which the design comes alive with a mild drop and some chunky wheel / tyre fitments!

    • @tarquin161234
      @tarquin161234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great review though. Thank you