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I had never heard of Henning nickels until I saw this video. Thanks for the interesting info.
"A $5,000 fine?? That is an OUTRAGEOUS sum, but I shall pay it sir. Are nickels acceptable?"
😆😅😂🤣 My first thought as well.
Very funny!
Henning went to prison, yet eBay has a thriving counterfeit coin industry taking place at this very moment.
Very true
Not to mention ebay won't even refund you your money for counterfeit currency unless you send the illegal items back without damage. They allow it to happen because they make money off of these illegal sales.
Even worse is Etsy
@@bobsacamano7653 For certain!
@@NumismaticHistoryDo they have any value besides being fake?
Coin dealer here. Thanks so much for this information. I actually collect counterfeits. To my knowledge, it is legal to own counterfeit coinage and bills, but it is illegal to try to pass them off as authentic as marked. And, fyi only, it's pronounced "school-kil river" and I only know that because my sister went to college in Philadelphia. Your video was good to watch. And I appreciate your time and effort.
Thanks for the information. I love getting positive feedback. I hope that I can continue growing this community and that we can all share our knowledge with each other. Thanks for watching.
What are the nickels worth ?
I have seen them sold anywhere from $100-$300 on ebay in the past two weeks.
Hi my father has a 1964 silver dime stamped as a penny do you have any clue on the value? His father found it in a roll of dimes back in the day.
I'm not exactly sure, it would depend on the grade. It is at least worth its silver melt value (it is likely worth more though). If you think it is high grade it could be worth getting graded professionally. One sold recently that was graded by PCGS at MS 62 for $822. Definitely an awesome transitional error coin thanks for sharing.
I just happened to find a 1944 Jefferson nickel WITHOUT a large mint mark on the reverse when I was very young, over 60 years ago. Being young and inexperienced in numismatics, I just put this curiosity away for the future. I only learned the truth about the pedigree and history of this coin a few years ago. From what I've seen, there are plenty of Hennings out there, and they tend to be very reasonably priced. Counterfeits have been around during our Pre-Colonial and Colonial period. Counterfeits flooded the market in the form of script, printed mainly by the British to saturate the Colonies and devalue authorized script currency. The funny thing is that bogus, worthless Colonial script has found a place in mainstream numismatics, and are worth a great deal. Less so with Henning, but still, I'm still blown away that this counterfeit is worth more than face value. I wonder if all of those nickels he dumped into the river were recovered. Hmm.
The military actually dumped thousands of pounds of debris into the spots where he dumped the coins in order to make sure they didn't make it into circulation. To this day there are thousands of counterfeit nickels in those rivers and many people still go there to search for them.
I used to find the 44 nickles without the P back in the 60s where I grew up (near the SCHOOL-kill river)...we knew they were counterfeit so we spent them quickly. Little did we know!
That’s cool they tried to cover them up. The infamous river they’re in is pronounced “skew kill” btw lol not too far from my house. Looking up how much scuba diving gear cost now
@@bukboefidun9096 HA HA, also the "Sure-Kill river".
@rvnmedic1968 right next to "The Sure-Kill Crawl-Way"
They used to call the Schuylkill Expressway that.
I found a 1944 Henning in the 1960s. I thought it was going to make me aa millionaire. A coin shop told me about Henning. I kept the coin for many years, then gave it to one of my brothers. Thanks for telling this story so well!
Cool story. They really are a cool piece of history.
@@NumismaticHistory I was thrilled when I realized that all 1944 nickles had a mint mark and mine did not. Mom drove me to Salamanca, NY, to get the coin evaluated at a shop. I was 10 or 11 years old, and I decided to keep it as an interesting oddity. I gave all of the remnants of my coin collection to one of my brothers when I entered the Jesuits ten years later. It is conceivable that he has kept it, though I feel a little awkward asking him. 1973 is now ... uh ... like ... 51 years ago (!), and my little coin collection may have gotten lost along the way. 😕
Still a cool memory. Thanks for sharing your story.
Back in the 1980s, as a child, I got super keen on coin collecting. I found quite a few pennies and nickels from "the war years" as I understood them. I remember being disappointed one time when I found a 1044 Nickel but it didn't have the mint mark. I asked my dad why, and his response was "Not all the nickels got the Mint Mark. That's just a sign it has no silver in it."
I suspect that nickel was a Henning Nickel. I haven't collected coins too much in my later years, but I still have my "box of special Stuff" which includes my paltry coin collection.
Great info, but the die crack does not go to Jefferson's skull! This is the reverse, so the die crack goes to the dome of Monticello.
Yes it does go into the Monticello building
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First time hearing about this nickel. I'm going to be looking at nickels now. Thanks.
Thanks that was very informative. He was pretty brave to do it twice!
That is so cool, knowing my last name is Henning. Would be a great item to show to friends.
That would be really neat. Maybe he is one of your ancestors.
Stumbled across this video today about people metal detecting on the Oregon trail for coins etc. Now this video popped up in my feed the same day, I have one mason filled with change and another mason jar filled about 25% after this video curiosity kicks 💡 look through the jars and I couldn’t believe it. One 1939 nickel and one 1947 nickel, both not beat up but definitely not perfect. Small world, cool video. Thanks for some knowledge and thanks for not using A.I voice overs, I instantly click off all videos with bots talking.
Thanks for watching I am glad you enjoyed the video. That is super cool that you found two of them.
"Amen" to anti-"BOTulism"!
Cool story and useful info. Subscribed
Thanks for watching
Great content dude, that's new information to me 👍subscribed 🙏
Wow...interesting information. Thank you! 😊
First time watching one of your videos, and subscribed. This is very interesting information. Thank you so much. I'd not heard this story before, and can't wait to share it. Have a wonderful week, I'm off to binge watch some more of your videos! So glad I found your site!
Thanks for watching. I hope you enjoy my other content as well.
Hey, thanks for this interesting video! I guess you're never too old to learn something new. I wonder if i spent any of these as a kid buying baseball cards when they were 5 cents a paclk?
Thanks for this interesting info. By the way, your audio was not too low, it was fine. People can turn their volume up if they need to. And your voice is perfect for ASMR. You could do ASMR vids, or just more coin history vids with the ASMR voice and delivery. But apparently, some think you said "uhm" too much, so maybe check that. Subbed.
I first heard about these nickels back in the 1960s, although only about the 1944 example.
Somehow a thin paperback book with a number of short chapters, each chapter detailing a triumph of the Secret Service, had a chapter on this coins.
Interestingly, I still remember it saying that because the alloy was 35% silver, that Henning lost money on every 5¢ coin he made.
Although I now wonder if it was correct about the composition of his replica coins.
It also said that coin collectors in 1955, not banks, were the first to call these out. Again maybe more is known about them now.
He might have had better luck trying to cash them in in casinos where they handled a lot of nickels daily.
Just keep the government away from my Daniel Carr fantasy coins.
I am pretty sure that 1944 Henning nickels are not silver. Coin collectors may very well have been the first to notice they were fake. This is just all the info that I found online. There may not even be anyone who knows exactly how it went down.
Excellent video, I never heard of Henning Counterfeit nickels before. I'll have to recheck all my old nickels.
Thanks for watching.
I live Three blocks from the old Cooper Creek which is now the Cooper River and two towns from his supposed dumping point. Have not found any yet but always lookin. As for your pronunciation the PA River sounds like Skuwkill River.
Schuylkill River. It's a Dutch name.
@@akulkisNo, it's Leni Lanape
Coincidentally I got a 1947 nickel just a couple of days ago. It has no mint mark and looks like any other well-worn old Jefferson nickel, so I don't know if it's a Henning or not- but I'm keeping it. If it actually is a Henning, then passing it off as currency might get me in trouble! LOL, I doubt anyone checks nickels that much except for collectors. Neat story, thanks for telling us about Mr. Henning and his low-denomination counterfeiting!
Thanks for watching. I wouldn't worry too much about spending it. I don't think that anything would happen if it was just the one nickel.
The river is pronounced Skool kill :-)
Thought it was skull kill ha
Good to know. Thank you!
Thanks for watching
Thanks for the History !
Thanks for watching. The history is what I love about this hobby.
Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for the info 🤠👍Liked and subbed
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video.
Great info! Thx
Thanks for watching.
I think I have one or two hennings. And I have a hand full of 46s and 47s. Thank you for sharing wouldn't have know with out your info!
Thanks for the info
Thanks for watching
Very cool! Thank you!
Thanks for watching.
Good info !!
Thanks!
Good stuff:)
Thanks!
Very nice video! I have a few that I suspect may well be Hennings work I will have to go over them again today with a scope and see what I happen across. 50 years of oddities collecting and general coin collecting and I still learn something new and fun every day!!!
That is what I love about this hobby.
Thanks for sharing your Henning Nickels coins
Thanks for watching.
Found one in a roll in the 1960's. Knew it was counterfeit but did not know its history.
This is great, this is one of the first things I learned when I started metal detecting👍🤠✌️🤙
A Henning nickel would be a super cool metal detecting find.
Thanks for the video. I had one of these back about 10 years ago. It came from a Whitman blue folder and the collector didn't know it was in there. Neither did I till I looked closely at the full book of nickels from 1938-1960. I was surprised to not see the large P mint mark on the reverse of that coin. That is when i first learned about these ( nickels ). What a story !
Hey do you know what year the fake $5 Bills were made ? Did you ever see any of his $5 paper money ? Pictures of them anywhere ?? 1935 Year maybe ?
That is pretty cool, I hope I find one some day.
I have done lots of research and tried to find more information on his $5 counterfeit bills but I have found nothing. They could very well still be in circulation. I don't know if he was caught because of a flaw with his counterfeiting or if he was caught in the act.
Nice job👊
Thanks :)
@@NumismaticHistory Your Welcome
Very interesting! 👍
Thanks.
I’ve got hundreds of rolls of the WW2 silver buckles and into the early 50s as well. I never k ew about this! I will have to go through them all and see what I can find!
Nice
Thanks
New Jersey's Cooper River flows into the Delaware River across from Philadelphia. The Schuylkill River (pronounced skookle or school-kl) flows into the Delaware a bit further south in Philadelphia.
Interesting. I thought you were saying Hennink. Thanks for posting. Someone recently posted a 1944 without a letter on a FB coin group but no one mentioned this.
That coin was likely a Henning
fun fact, ICG will actually certify and slab Henning nickels
That is neat I did not know that.
For the critics in the comments, could you please just keep the negativity to your self. Also since you think so highly of yourself why dont you share your valuable information. Wonder how many likes you would get. I didnt have any issues with the way his video sounded or the hums as he fugured out what all to say. I would watch as many informational videos on coins that he would share. For the guy making this video... please dont let the haters keep you from sharing more videos. Thank you. Ive been collecting some of the nickles i found intersecting. I wasn't sure what to look for in the nickles. I am new to coin collecting. I appreciated you taking the time to share.
Thanks for the comment I really appreciate it. I know that there will always be haters out there and I do appreciate negative comments if they can be used productively to improve my channel.
My boss found a number of '' cowboy '' Indian Head ''pennies made from bullets in the 1860's . And also a clipped penny for 1/2 cent sales
That is pretty cool
One of my ancestors, in Salisbury nc in the 1920s, counterfeited nickels . He made them with bullet lead using a leather razor strop. The story is he kept them in a jar on the mantle and would give the kids a nickel when they wanted some candy.
That is a cool family story, thanks for sharing.
I have a few of these. I saved them because they look different. Now I know what they are
Hi Numismatic History! Great information on the Henning Nickels! I just subscribed to your channel! Nice Video Content! 😎🏆BTW... The Schuylkill River is pronounced the "School-kill" River, I used to live in the area.
Thanks I am glad you enjoyed learning with me.
I learned about these a few weeks ago. I hope to own one soon.
I would love to own a Henning nickel
Same and same. Was nickel roll hunting until realizing…coin star machines won’t take them in. They weigh outside a normal nickels weight bracket, so would be spit right back into the reject tray. Only way to find these via bank would be through customer wrapped nickel rolls. To find one through hand2hand transactions would be the best, knowing one’s been in circulation all these years and ended up with you. Super cool pieces for sure
@@NumismaticHistory I have one
Thumbs up.
I think I found one in change a few years ago. I didn't know it was counterfeit. I should still have it, hopefully.
New sub , very good video...
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
There are a bunch of silver dollars (hundreds) from Big Stone Gap Virginia that are in circulation. Some old boy made his own from a silver vein and when he got caught, they just made him stop but didn't bring charges because he was making finer, more valuable coins. When people asked about the vein, he said he could see it out his backdoor. He lived on a mountain.. so? Somewhere out there.
Morgans. This would be between 1910 and 1940 or 50. Story came from a guy from there in his 80's, 20 years ago.
That is a really cool story. It would be so cool to be the one to find those.
It's like someone got bored during covid and told everyone about these and the price went way up. Used to see them for like 40-50 bucks on ebay and now its like 250 lol.
When locals mention the Schuylkill River, or the Schuylkill Expressway, if they are saying it quickly, it sounds like "Skookle", with the same "oo" sound as in school. Anyway, before seeing this video I had never heard of Henning Nickels. This was interesting.
Thanks for watching.
Damn, I can't believe it. I was rolling up change last week and was a few nickels shy of a roll, so I grabbed a few that I had saved from the WW2 era. I looked through them and grabbed a few just because they didn't have mint marks. I know I rolled some of these up. Oh well, easy come, easy go.I just wish I'd seen this last week LOL.
That is pretty sad but at least now you know if you see them.
Great video, I'd love to find one of these
It is definitely one of my dream finds.
I have one thanks 😊
Hey first I enjoy watching a lot of your videos and thank you for your time and research information... I was wondering if they neckel on the right if they are a different mint mark under the p mint mark ??????
I don't think so it should just be the P mint mark.
He was good at counterfeiting Nichols you can't tell the difference except for the mint mark
That is the main way to identify them
The war effort also needed the copper genuine war nickels freed up. We all know about the 1943 steel cents.
I never knew about Henning nickels. I have a gold plated v nickel. Neat history ,subscribed!
Thanks for watching
Call the Schuylkill River .
I've been collecting Jefferson nickels for over 60 years and this is the first time I've heard of these. Have to go back through them and check them out. What kind off value do they have?
I have seen Hennings go from anywhere from $5 to $250 in circulated condition on ebay in circulated condition. Most sellers seem to be selling them for $100-$200 right now.
I too began collecting Jefferson nickels well over 50 years ago and never of these.
I got alot of them too
Schuylkill River is pronounced SKOO-kul
Lots of weird names around Philly that look harder to say than they really are.😊
Thanks
Neat stuff. Heard of Henning, but did not know the details until earlier today at a coin show and now a second time. Had thought the coins were a mint error, but not so. Ebay and especially Etsy will probably one day have nothing but fakes. Sooooo many now. Sad to see. Someone must be buying them. It will wreck the hobby.
I ordered 2 rolls of silver nickels from monument a few years ago. One nickel in the roll had no mint mark. I assumed they just made war nickels not silver back then. Now i gotta go thru my bags of old nickels and find it
If it was a 1944 it could be a Henning nickel.
I have 3 on the nickels with the P mark on the top
Nice, 3 silver war nickels.
It's pronounced school kill or skoo kill (Schuylkill). I never knew about Henning! Enjoyed your show!
Thanks for watching.
I have 1944 with no nint merk ..very good condition
It definitely could be a Henning nickel then.
The river in Pennsylvania is pronounces "Skoo kill"
It's pronounced, "Skoo-kill"
If you're not from the area, you'd never know how to pronounce it from reading it lol.
Great video! I never heard of Henning nickels before. 👍
An American LEGEND that competed with the Federal Reserve! LMAO
It would have taken some gumption to go against the government like he did.
I am surprised that he did not mention the lettering URiBUS U around the edge are not as sharp of lettering as real nickel. The lettering on the fake nickels look thicker too. The article is well done and of great interest to coin collectors. I have a fake penny. Guess what year.
Is it a 1909 S? I know those are counterfeited a lot.
What materials was used?
Henning nickels are usually roughly 79-80% copper and 20% nickel versus non-war nickels being made of 75% copper and 25% nickel and war nickels being 56% copper, 35% silver, and 9% manganese.
@@NumismaticHistory Hard to believe the profit margin would be worth it.
My father used one of these in a local grocery store and got caught. Spent 6 months in jail.
Prounounced SKU-Kill......
Thanks
I have a steel plate that printed 10 dollar bills from 1800’s. I can’t find info about . Hoping to sell at some point can you tell me where I can learn about the plates that printed bills? Thanks!
I have no idea about plates. I know that if it is not real it is illegal to own counterfeit plates. Here is a website to help you see legal details. www.justia.com/criminal/offenses/white-collar-crimes/money-counterfeiting/#:~:text=The%20creation%20or%20possession%20of,to%20use%20them%20in%20counterfeiting. The website says "The creation or possession of any instrument used to produce counterfeit currency, such as metal plates used to print bills, is also considered a counterfeiting offense."
Interesting video, I live in the Philly area. Its pronounced "Ska-louk-kul" river. Cheers
While living in Philly for a year, I heard it pronounced as a two syllable word, "Skoo-kul".
at 3:46 the photo shows a die crack from rim into Jefferson's skull. That is the top of Monticello. E Pluribus Unum is on the reverse of the nickel. That is where the photo is showing, not the obverse.
Yeah I wrote the wrong thing. It should be the Monticello.
Schuykill River is pronounced “skoo-kill” in Philly. Any more specific location? There’s a Cooper River across the Delaware River in New Jersey. It would be fun to find a bucket of nickels!
I am not sure where exactly they were dumped but I do know that the government dumped a bunch of stuff to cover the Henning nickels up on top of where he dumped but you still may be able to find some if you go and look.
I was wondering why all my 1944's didn't have the letter "P" on them. I have couple 1939's as well,. They came out of a vending machine at work 10 years ago.
Very nice find.
The federal reserve doesn’t like competition in counterfeit schemes
I have just about all of these nickels in my pocket
That sounds pretty lucky
Damn it anyways. Now I have to go through my thousands of nickels looking for a Henning. hahahaaha Thanks for the video.
Good luck I hope you find one.
So _that's_ the reason for the big mint mark.
Yep if you find a nickel with a large mint mark on the reverse with dates between 1942 and 1945 it is likely a silver war nickel.
@@NumismaticHistory Thank you, yes, I've got a few of them. You used to get them in change on occasion. Everybody "knew" nickels weren't silver so they didn't get filtered out like the larger valued coins. It's been years (decades?) since I've seen one in the wild though.
He was probably working on his 1944 die in 1943, and stuck with it, figuring nobody would notice in time for it to be a problem for him.
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Why do you have a picture saying Jefferson Skull when that's the back of the coin in the back of the coin is the building..?
I wrote the wrong thing and had it wrong on my script when I recorded it. Sorry for the mistake.
He could have hit the slots and candy machines.
He very well may have
It would be a sad day if you got arrested for collecting a counterfeit nickel. Judge be like- Imma throw the book at ya!
That would be sad. I don't think it would happen though.
I think you are an 'innocent' collector until you attempted to pass the counterfeit money.
Having fake,counterfeit, or unauthorized moneys isn't a crime until you use or attempt to use it as payment.
Wow this is very interesting never heard of these. Now this is something that I have to buy I'm wondering how much they cost
I have seen them sell recently on eBay for anywhere from $100 to $300.
I just obtained a fake 1944 steel wheat cent, very clever steel plated copper cent
Sounds like a cool find.
It also looks like the rim is significantly wider than the genuine nickels.
It may be in some cases but I am not sure. I haven't seen anything online about that.
In the war years a few nickels would buy some groceries!
Very true.
It is skoo-kill river.