I lived, slept and, breathed motocross and Supercross for 40 years! traveling to dozens of SX and MX Pro races during that time. And I can tell you that this race is by far one of , if not the best race Ive had the privalege to watch!! I cant believe there are so few comments about this race posted. I will be posting on my Facebook page to remind my fellow senior and vet racing friends the quality and caliber of racing we had the privalege of watching! Thanks 5mxmike for posting a great race!!
I've been a fan as long as you , what am I missing here? Just another JMB win. He was the most talented rider of all time if that's what you're so excited about.
Never seen anyone that can ride a motorcycle like JMB. So smooth and fluid, looks like he's not going fast, but he is. He still rides and teaches to ride today.
How did he get that "Fluid"? He did not train, (just rode). When he got tired, he knew he was doing something wrong,---and he corrected it. There have been several guys like that, (but not as successful), like Lechien, Windham and others, and they all seem to be tall.
All the heroes of my day,both bikes and riders. Used to comb front to back all the magazines like MXA,Dirt Bike'Dirt Rider,etc. Aaahhh...these were the days,soo glad i was around for em. My kids will have no clue what they missed out on unfortunately. Thanks!!!!
When 2 strokes ruled and the Racing was on tight rough tracks!! miss these days. Ward was always my fav racer. Probably just aged myself... Spent many weekends at High Point in the 1980's
Hell Yeah man. I was at the track this morning with my 1998 yz125 I bought new from cutting and hustling a shit ton of yard work. I do have to say there were more 2 smokers than the 4strokes🏁
@@davem145mxr me too. i was 27. remember the tickets were like $18 and you could pick your seats? I always sat at the triple jump. it was great! Orlando was great too. they had that second level and you could get the first row, so nobody in front of you
@@KhalidStoleeYour111 On the right track (all pun intended). The big picture around yours is that the 2-strokes were more free enterprise, (companies picking the directions in a competitive spirit freely), and the 4-stroke, (and electric), are forced on by some branch of a government like the EPA, (yes, it is a dictatorship). In any industry, that is dysfunctional for our markets. More cost, less opportunity, with government favoritism that puts the beginner, (or competitors with out lobbyists), out of business. Free people created free enterprise, and we need to demand it back. So you are right. It was the 2-strokes,----------------------when we had the freedom to make and use them. Another point is safety, and I am not a safety freak. The 4-stroke, to try to end the 2-stroke were made faster on purpose to change the starting lines. Today, with 30% faster tracks, injuries are much higher, and even deaths on local tracks. From my understanding of how things work, we should see a death in a pro race in the next couple years.
And that, (expense for racing, more injuries and deaths with even less people riding because of cost.), is the fault of a dictatorship called the EPA. Doug in Michigan
Fantastic. Hopefully you were at your peak, because I know none of us would like the ride if I were there today. :) 20 years off. I have some work to do, some weight to lose. Figured that out on my old whooped out trails ending with some ribs to heal. Now I have not ridden in 20 years, and have not been hurt on a bike for 25 years. 60 now and weird, the pain makes me feel young again. :)
Not really doing them as well as Bubba, (on his 125,) today either. I have seen a few good ones today, but the 4-stroke made a hard move even harder. Saw a fairly recent vid of James saying he didn't like to do them, and "I had to do it out of necessity".
If racing and respect are brothers,---they don't like each other. Respect takes a back seat to winning on the track. This is not a parade. Damon was a great racer. He may have hung it out more than he should have, and unfortunately choked in 92 that pretty much ended his spirit to win. But man, when Bradshaw was in the race,--well, it sure beat the parades of today. Did you know that he had a 5 year contrast (first and last time), was in the middle of it when he retired and gave up the best pay in the industry? He could have "milked it", but his heart was not into it. That sir, is called "integrity". Great guy Damon Bradshaw is to this day IMO, and the fans could not wait to watch him.
Now we have a stumble over my words, over explaining, Ricky Carmicheal and some new accent dude. Between their long no talking pauses, I miss the old announcers. They're amazing.
I was there, sitting by the triple jump. back then tickets were I think $18 and you could pick your seats! so the day tickets went on sale, I was at ticket master. anyways, one of the greatest races! we were rooting for Cooper and RT since RT was the home town boy. but Bayle was amazing
And the track separated the talent, so we could see who actually had the most. 12 guys on the same 1.5 second/lap range are because the tracks are designed to keep everybody the same speed. So what we will see now, as the racers now only have to make less mistakes, is they will, and we will see very little to no passing after lap 10 with the top 10 ore even more guys,---just like last week. This vid is a race. Today's races are a fast parade after lap 10.
NO JEREMY MCGRATH IS THE BEST SUPERCROSS RIDER EVER. BAYLE WAS ONE OF THE SMOOTHEST AND FASTEST RIDERS WHEN HE WAS RACING MOTOCROSS AND SUPERCROSS. AND MCGRATH MAY NOT HAVE WON AS MANY SUPERCROSS RACES IF BAYLE WOULD HAVE STAYED RACING DIRT BIKES INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE STREET BIKES. BUT, POINT IS THAT JEREMY GOT SUPERCROSS DOWNPAT BETTER AND WAS JUST THE BEST AT THE TIMING AND KEEPING HIS BIKE LOWER OFF THE JUMPS TO GET HIS WHEELS BACK ON THE GROUND. AND DONE IT CONSISTENTLY FOR YEARS. NOBODY, NOT EVEN CARMICHAEL EVER GOT THE TIMING DOWN AS GOOD AS JEREMY WHEN IT CAME TO SUPERCROSS. HE IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE GOAT WHEN IT COMES TO SUPERCROSS
Here is a challenge for you, to compare this racing to today's racing: Count the number of passes in the top 5 of this race after lap 10. (I haven't counted, but I will guess 7 passes) Now next week, count the number of passes in the top 10 after lap 10 (It will be one or two. A fast parade. Race is over at lap 10. Go home and beat the traffic.)
There was multiple races in the 92 season that had a runaway victory where the race was boring but you wanna compare the best race of that season to one random race in the modern day? That wouldn’t be fair lol. Sure, maybe the close racing isn’t as consistent today as it was back then but every era has its pros and cons. Give the modern day more credit, it’s still entertaining.
@@jundadog9604 I love "run away victories" like the amazing Jett did 2023, (which I never thought I would see again on these modern tracks of equality.). I would rather see 2 or 3 guys battling for the lead, but I want to see "greatness" raise the bar for others to chase, and not just settle for a fast average. The stuff on the tracks today can be circulated by most pros that all have the tracks pretty much wired. The faster 4-strokes made the tracks faster too, a lot faster. Like 30% indoor and out. RC said recently (only once is allowed) that the bikes are too fast today. I give the racers great credit still. They race what they have to race. But until Jett showed up, I really did not know who has the most talent because 8 guys are on the same second. Now that is not racing. That is a parade, (or NASCAR). My point is, in the 2-stroke days and the first 4-stroke days in Europe before 68, the track was made to separate the talent so we can see who has the most. Today, the tracks are made (by socialism, the FIM, believe it or not), to make everybody the same speed as much as possible. That is not racing. I do think the faster 4-strokes kind of forced the tracks to get faster and less technical. Now a 80hp electric bike will do the same, it looks to be. The sport was totally different before the 1986 production rule and the EPA forced 4-stroke. It was much more free and offered opportunity to more people in the entire industry. Bottom line? We gotta tell organizations and government to get out of our industries. We created them. They belong to us. If we did that, we would be on 4 grand 2-strokes today, (like my 2019 YZ250), and the market share would be at least double what it is today, which is more opportunity for the rest of us. Doug in Michigan
The field was STACKED with champions including the only guy to win all four titles (Ward), the real GOAT (McGrath) and the best European rider JM Bayle. The track didn't need a joker lane or stadium section gimmick to make it seem like good action. Still the better, theres no overly distractive stupid sponsor logo everywhere you look on the track or stadium ..
No Scrubs. No flow. Literally one section of track that is relatively obstacle free and smooth. Tracks in the 90's were meant to call the rider to greatness. Tracks today are meant for Instagram greatness. I can just see the pukes of today doing track walk, wide eyed and terrified. How many of 2020's best could finish on pace on a track like this?
Tracks were made by eye with crude Machinery. Dirt wasn't blended mixed and milled. Design wasn't engineered on 3D auto cad. Riders then and riders now work with what they got. Watching this makes me tense. Watching today's Supercross feels more relaxing.
@@moodyshooty Tracks today are built for modern suspension. More dangerous yes, less room for error certainly, sexier, absolutely but harder? I don’t think you have ever rode a pre 1980 bike. Those tracks were light years more difficult on the bikes of the day. The kids now bitch about ruts, those tracks were just whoops and ruts on a pogo stick suspended steel framed POS. Pass the pipe.
No good battles like this today. We can have 10 laps left, (and often do), where the passing is about finished for the top 10. There may be one guy working up from a bad start or mishap, and one guy making mistakes who got a good start and losing time, but other than that------------------------------------the race is over. It is rare to have a battle of 2 riders last more than one or 2 corners anymore. Today's "Passless racing" is more of a really fast parade, kids loving the pretty colors jumping up and down (all the same speed), than this great racing in the 2-stroke days. Today? Almost as boring as NASCAR. Head home with 5 laps to go, and beat the traffic out. 9 times out of 10, the race is over. Doug in Michigan
The riders back then were certain enough in their own ability that they didn't need to rely on block passes of such a forceful nature that their opponent had no choice but to crash. And that makes for great racing. Guy did not deviate from his choice of line through the right hander after the finish line once, he knew that the other riders wanted to be faster ,not take him out.
But I am here to see Bayle just hang back, and pass into the lead near the end. Ya know, RC is and always will be the GOAT, but Bayle was a was a man who made a hard job look easy. I will say, he is probably the most talented, (and probably sharpest), man to ever throw a leg over a MX bike, ---after DeCoster.
Stop it at min 6:50. Set the video speed to 25% with the settings "gear" thingie button. And watch how beautiful Bradshaw handled that Bayle pass attempt. The speeds are too high today for that kind of racing poetry.
These guys definitely didn’t attack the whoops like the young men do these days. I personally think 199, Travis Pastrana changed the way riders attack the whoops.
These 90's sx tracks were tough, technical, and provided for great racing, today's tracks are relatively safe, except when one does go down it's usually way worse injures because they are carrying more speed these days....
Don't forget that technology really dictated what could be safely done back then. You couldn't have 75-foot triples because the bikes wouldn't have the power, weight, or suspension that would allow them to land them and not break in half. Technology is what made/makes the difference in tracks.
@@reverendjimjones9061 Yes, they are -- and that's primarily because of the advances in technology. You can plainly see that, as the bikes and suspensions improved, jumps got bigger and bigger -- all for the simple reason that they COULD. Tech had EVERYTHING to do with it, end of story.
Only thing the bikes in the 80s had that I hated is that damn power band that had a mind of its own. These are 90s but it was still a problem in the early 90s
Anyone old enough understands that 4-strokes ruined all this. Electric bikes will be the final nail in the coffin, but only if people are dumb enough to buy into it. Those who think that they'll cost less are in for a rude awakening.
@@bleachinuri Actually, "cost" figured into my decision to quit racing. When the first four-strokes hit the market, they got their power from super-short pistons which wore out twice as fast. That meant two top end changes per year. Twice the cost. Then they got so fancy with fuel injection and various changes that it was harder to do your own work on them. A lot of my fellow offroad riders were skipping races or not play-riding as much to keep down wear-n-tear, or would ride on roached tires. I had taken a Small Engine Repair course to help me keep costs down on my two-stroke Enduro bike, which I maintained myself at a considerable expense when racing 2-hour+ Hare Scrambles or 5 hour Enduros every week. I kept that poor bike running way beyond its competitive life, but with the economic crash, a lack of health insurance, and after considering the price of a new four-stroke and associated maintenance costs, I had to make the smart decision to stop racing or just go broke. I miss it like a drowning man misses oxygen, but the cost of racing is just prohibitive for too many privateers.
Um.....no, not really...I agree that two-strokes ROOOL, but attendance numbers are consistent with motorcycle racing today. The demographics of motorcycle racing are far more sustainable than NASCAR'S aging population, and its youth participation programs nationwide assure a constant supply of new, fresh racers who can still economically compete at the amateur level. Can't do that whatsoever in NASCAR.
17:51 Look at the way JMB saved it after his butt got kicked in the air. His feet were off the pegs when he hit the last face/jump, and he kept his body high over the bike by grabbing the top of the seat with his knees, and took the last hit that way. So as he bounced over the top, he just got his feet over the pegs again and took off. I don't think a pro today would ever think of that.
@@fkhan577 Sorry, that is just silly. We need to sue our schools. Now if you want to examine if an idea is silly, take it to "its own extreme", and see how it is silly, like this example: How much of a bonus do they agree with for paralysis?
@@fkhan577 And for this, which is a good reply but factors are different today. The speeds are about 30% faster with the 4-strokes today,( faster engines create faster tacks), compared to the 2-stroke days (both indoors about 25%, and outdoors about 33% faster), and I don't think they have time to react like Bayle did. Block passing is a good example there too. Today, at the higher speeds and many bigger radius corners to hold those speeds, and usually up on the berm to exit at a higher speed to clear something down the straight, (many inside lines are not fast enough today for competitive lap times, so they have to go higher.), they leave themselves wide open for a block pass. But at these speeds, usually the guy getting passed does not know it in time to shut off, and they hit pretty hard. Today, block passing by the fans is considered dirty riding. But it used to be a great way to pass when 2 guys were about the same speed. I can teach a good history lesson of the sport in the USA. :) Doug in Michigan
seems like back then the track was set up to break up flow. a lot of the jumps are oddly shaped, with weird step ups on top of them and the woops are really uneven. Mow it seems like the tracks are built to promote flow........not saying one is better or more difficult just a noticed difference in style
That's been dictated by technology. I guarantee you that if the suspension units back then could have handled the tracks of today, you would have seen them. But they built what the bikes could handle back then, and advanced technology has helped to make the tracks what they are today.
Let's see whoops like that today we'll see if they can blitz 'em... No, on second thought the crippling carnage would leave too many sidelined, let's not.
@@kerontucker4488 yeah today they get one whoop out of shape they go the crying and whining. After blitzing a 1987 whoop section they'd go strait to the hospital. They'd be limping through just like rick johnson did.
It wasn't easy to find coverage of motocross before cable TV. Most of the times, a moto-race was pre-empted by some stupid stick-and-ball sports. Motocross was really more of an outside sport back then, and not often seen. I think the announcers reflect their own excitement at the relative scarcity of it all.
90’s supercross. Gotta love it
It makes me sad. Knowing this time is gone.
Nothing compares to early '70s motocross.
2 stroke races were so much better !
I lived, slept and, breathed motocross and Supercross for 40 years! traveling to dozens of SX and MX Pro races during that time. And I can tell you that this race is by far one of , if not the best race Ive had the privalege to watch!! I cant believe there are so few comments about this race posted. I will be posting on my Facebook page to remind my fellow senior and vet racing friends the quality and caliber of racing we had the privalege of watching! Thanks 5mxmike for posting a great race!!
I've been a fan as long as you , what am I missing here? Just another JMB win. He was the most talented rider of all time if that's what you're so excited about.
TU!
Never seen anyone that can ride a motorcycle like JMB. So smooth and fluid, looks like he's not going fast, but he is. He still rides and teaches to ride today.
How did he get that "Fluid"? He did not train, (just rode). When he got tired, he knew he was doing something wrong,---and he corrected it. There have been several guys like that, (but not as successful), like Lechien, Windham and others, and they all seem to be tall.
All the heroes of my day,both bikes and riders. Used to comb front to back all the magazines like MXA,Dirt Bike'Dirt Rider,etc. Aaahhh...these were the days,soo glad i was around for em. My kids will have no clue what they missed out on unfortunately. Thanks!!!!
Same here! also made a point to see this group of guys at the outdoor courses! back when the top racers were awesome indoors and outdoors!
True story bro, sadly... 😔
When 2 strokes ruled and the Racing was on tight rough tracks!! miss these days. Ward was always my fav racer. Probably just aged myself... Spent many weekends at High Point in the 1980's
Hell Yeah man. I was at the track this morning with my 1998 yz125 I bought new from cutting and hustling a shit ton of yard work. I do have to say there were more 2 smokers than the 4strokes🏁
when people knew how to announce a supercross race on TV " Dave Despain"
dave harding art eckman did it better
@@levisouthern4869 both a hell of alot better then now
Board girls have gotten cuter since then.
Na that one wow she’s real hot
😂
And have more plastic than a dirt bike.
Yeah, but that one can one hand the board lol
Don't be sexist. It's refreshing seeing a board girl clearly comfortable with her fuller figure.
So happy to see Mike Fisher on the KTM. One of my favourite riders on my favourite bike
Bayle was magical on a bike.
I was there, as a teenager. People were on their feet half the race. Guy Cooper was the Mark Martin of supercross and always rooted for him.
Dustin me too but I was 32
Great analogy.
@@davem145mxr me too. i was 27. remember the tickets were like $18 and you could pick your seats? I always sat at the triple jump. it was great! Orlando was great too. they had that second level and you could get the first row, so nobody in front of you
Thank for taking me back.☺👍
Guy Cooper AND Jeremy McGrath? Omg! Too awesome!
I was lucky to ride trials bikes with Guy in Sapulpa okla in a spillway from the lake there. He is a very nice person. This was around 1995.
Still my all time favorite too. JMB is the man.
Absolute genius! Jean Michele Bayle - what a ride
It’s not like this anymore . This timeless simplicity makes the best racing. I think these guys had the most fun , such a cool battle
Joe Antolak it’s the 2 strokes that’s why
@@KhalidStoleeYour111 On the right track (all pun intended). The big picture around yours is that the 2-strokes were more free enterprise, (companies picking the directions in a competitive spirit freely), and the 4-stroke, (and electric), are forced on by some branch of a government like the EPA, (yes, it is a dictatorship). In any industry, that is dysfunctional for our markets. More cost, less opportunity, with government favoritism that puts the beginner, (or competitors with out lobbyists), out of business. Free people created free enterprise, and we need to demand it back.
So you are right. It was the 2-strokes,----------------------when we had the freedom to make and use them.
Another point is safety, and I am not a safety freak. The 4-stroke, to try to end the 2-stroke were made faster on purpose to change the starting lines. Today, with 30% faster tracks, injuries are much higher, and even deaths on local tracks.
From my understanding of how things work, we should see a death in a pro race in the next couple years.
And that, (expense for racing, more injuries and deaths with even less people riding because of cost.), is the fault of a dictatorship called the EPA. Doug in Michigan
love this old school supercross
From Cigarette and Beer sponsors to energy drinks
I miss cigarettes and beer.
And MD CBD
Imagine that, Larocco having to come through the pack....
You can almost smell the 2 stroke!! Bikes and riding gear was WAY cooler back in the 90s!
I've had the privilege to ride trials with coop , really enjoyed it. Guy is such a nice guy and a great rider !
Fantastic. Hopefully you were at your peak, because I know none of us would like the ride if I were there today. :)
20 years off. I have some work to do, some weight to lose. Figured that out on my old whooped out trails ending with some ribs to heal. Now I have not ridden in 20 years, and have not been hurt on a bike for 25 years. 60 now and weird, the pain makes me feel young again. :)
Jean Michel bayle always my FAV RIDER TILL THIS DAY
Pre Bubba- High Flyin' - No Scrubbin' 2 Bangers👍
Not really doing them as well as Bubba, (on his 125,) today either. I have seen a few good ones today, but the 4-stroke made a hard move even harder. Saw a fairly recent vid of James saying he didn't like to do them, and "I had to do it out of necessity".
My all time inspiration JMB
Three top flight racers who can ride in close quarters with full confidence in, and respect for, one another. And then was Bradshaw.
If racing and respect are brothers,---they don't like each other. Respect takes a back seat to winning on the track. This is not a parade. Damon was a great racer. He may have hung it out more than he should have, and unfortunately choked in 92 that pretty much ended his spirit to win. But man, when Bradshaw was in the race,--well, it sure beat the parades of today.
Did you know that he had a 5 year contrast (first and last time), was in the middle of it when he retired and gave up the best pay in the industry? He could have "milked it", but his heart was not into it. That sir, is called "integrity".
Great guy Damon Bradshaw is to this day IMO, and the fans could not wait to watch him.
Jeff chicken matasivich was my fav as a kid i wore xtreme gear because of him
Now we have a stumble over my words, over explaining, Ricky Carmicheal and some new accent dude. Between their long no talking pauses, I miss the old announcers. They're amazing.
Was the whoop section deeper than what today's whoops are? I don't see anyone skimming the whole top of those whoops.
Whoops looked bigger than today!
Commentating was even so much better back then
JMB world class rider, one of the best...
I was there, sitting by the triple jump. back then tickets were I think $18 and you could pick your seats! so the day tickets went on sale, I was at ticket master. anyways, one of the greatest races! we were rooting for Cooper and RT since RT was the home town boy. but Bayle was amazing
The tracks in these days gave a true challenge compared to todays tracks. The 90’s were the best era for motocross!
Said no one that’s ever ridden at a high level ever 😂
Technology is the true Talent!
No fireworks, the main sponsors are cigarette and alcohol manufacturers and 2-strokes. The good ole days.
And the track separated the talent, so we could see who actually had the most. 12 guys on the same 1.5 second/lap range are because the tracks are designed to keep everybody the same speed. So what we will see now, as the racers now only have to make less mistakes, is they will, and we will see very little to no passing after lap 10 with the top 10 ore even more guys,---just like last week. This vid is a race. Today's races are a fast parade after lap 10.
I wish either damon Bradshaw or guy cooper would of won. Especially guy cooper. Still a great race
JMB, the greatest sx racer ever.
NO JEREMY MCGRATH IS THE BEST SUPERCROSS RIDER EVER. BAYLE WAS ONE OF THE SMOOTHEST AND FASTEST RIDERS WHEN HE WAS RACING MOTOCROSS AND SUPERCROSS. AND MCGRATH MAY NOT HAVE WON AS MANY SUPERCROSS RACES IF BAYLE WOULD HAVE STAYED RACING DIRT BIKES INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE STREET BIKES. BUT, POINT IS THAT JEREMY GOT SUPERCROSS DOWNPAT BETTER AND WAS JUST THE BEST AT THE TIMING AND KEEPING HIS BIKE LOWER OFF THE JUMPS TO GET HIS WHEELS BACK ON THE GROUND. AND DONE IT CONSISTENTLY FOR YEARS. NOBODY, NOT EVEN CARMICHAEL EVER GOT THE TIMING DOWN AS GOOD AS JEREMY WHEN IT CAME TO SUPERCROSS. HE IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE GOAT WHEN IT COMES TO SUPERCROSS
Here is a challenge for you, to compare this racing to today's racing: Count the number of passes in the top 5 of this race after lap 10. (I haven't counted, but I will guess 7 passes)
Now next week, count the number of passes in the top 10 after lap 10 (It will be one or two. A fast parade. Race is over at lap 10. Go home and beat the traffic.)
There was multiple races in the 92 season that had a runaway victory where the race was boring but you wanna compare the best race of that season to one random race in the modern day? That wouldn’t be fair lol. Sure, maybe the close racing isn’t as consistent today as it was back then but every era has its pros and cons. Give the modern day more credit, it’s still entertaining.
@@jundadog9604 I love "run away victories" like the amazing Jett did 2023, (which I never thought I would see again on these modern tracks of equality.). I would rather see 2 or 3 guys battling for the lead, but I want to see "greatness" raise the bar for others to chase, and not just settle for a fast average. The stuff on the tracks today can be circulated by most pros that all have the tracks pretty much wired. The faster 4-strokes made the tracks faster too, a lot faster. Like 30% indoor and out. RC said recently (only once is allowed) that the bikes are too fast today.
I give the racers great credit still. They race what they have to race. But until Jett showed up, I really did not know who has the most talent because 8 guys are on the same second. Now that is not racing. That is a parade, (or NASCAR).
My point is, in the 2-stroke days and the first 4-stroke days in Europe before 68, the track was made to separate the talent so we can see who has the most. Today, the tracks are made (by socialism, the FIM, believe it or not), to make everybody the same speed as much as possible. That is not racing. I do think the faster 4-strokes kind of forced the tracks to get faster and less technical. Now a 80hp electric bike will do the same, it looks to be. The sport was totally different before the 1986 production rule and the EPA forced 4-stroke. It was much more free and offered opportunity to more people in the entire industry. Bottom line? We gotta tell organizations and government to get out of our industries. We created them. They belong to us. If we did that, we would be on 4 grand 2-strokes today, (like my 2019 YZ250), and the market share would be at least double what it is today, which is more opportunity for the rest of us.
Doug in Michigan
Bayle was badass. The guy didn't even break a sweat.
those whoops are gnarly AF
The field was STACKED with champions including the only guy to win all four titles (Ward), the real GOAT (McGrath)
and the best European rider JM Bayle.
The track didn't need a joker lane or stadium section gimmick to make it seem like good action.
Still the better, theres no overly distractive stupid sponsor logo everywhere you look on the track or stadium ..
I think Ward retired the year before, #3 was MX kid.
@@mbriggs4627 yes MX Kied another champion.
@@mbriggs4627 he retired this year! He ran #6 this year and was hurt quite a bit
Ward is the real GOAT 👍
@@markme4 yeah but i say RJ is the real GOAT. i 👍 JW.
No Scrubs. No flow. Literally one section of track that is relatively obstacle free and smooth. Tracks in the 90's were meant to call the rider to greatness. Tracks today are meant for Instagram greatness. I can just see the pukes of today doing track walk, wide eyed and terrified. How many of 2020's best could finish on pace on a track like this?
Long rant that made absolutely no sense.
Tracks were made by eye with crude Machinery. Dirt wasn't blended mixed and milled. Design wasn't engineered on 3D auto cad. Riders then and riders now work with what they got. Watching this makes me tense. Watching today's Supercross feels more relaxing.
Tracks are 1926301 times harder today what kind of crack did you smoke before making this comment
@@moodyshooty Tracks today are built for modern suspension. More dangerous yes, less room for error certainly, sexier, absolutely but harder? I don’t think you have ever rode a pre 1980 bike. Those tracks were light years more difficult on the bikes of the day. The kids now bitch about ruts, those tracks were just whoops and ruts on a pogo stick suspended steel framed POS. Pass the pipe.
So many big name riders.
damn i miss the 2 strokes.
McGrath will always be my favorite rider.
No good battles like this today. We can have 10 laps left, (and often do), where the passing is about finished for the top 10. There may be one guy working up from a bad start or mishap, and one guy making mistakes who got a good start and losing time, but other than that------------------------------------the race is over. It is rare to have a battle of 2 riders last more than one or 2 corners anymore.
Today's "Passless racing" is more of a really fast parade, kids loving the pretty colors jumping up and down (all the same speed), than this great racing in the 2-stroke days. Today? Almost as boring as NASCAR. Head home with 5 laps to go, and beat the traffic out. 9 times out of 10, the race is over. Doug in Michigan
JMB, awesome skills, the best...! He seems to be cool, but is faster than everyone, like Roger de Coster at his best...
The riders back then were certain enough in their own ability that they didn't need to rely on block passes of such a forceful nature that their opponent had no choice but to crash. And that makes for great racing. Guy did not deviate from his choice of line through the right hander after the finish line once, he knew that the other riders wanted to be faster ,not take him out.
Great race but 1990 Atlanta was the best ever!!!
Cheers
But I am here to see Bayle just hang back, and pass into the lead near the end. Ya know, RC is and always will be the GOAT, but Bayle was a was a man who made a hard job look easy. I will say, he is probably the most talented, (and probably sharpest), man to ever throw a leg over a MX bike, ---after DeCoster.
Ohhh jmb the best of the best ,,❤
Maiers and Despain best ever.
Damn effin' right!! No black wheels, great graphics and everyone had custom painted helmets!!
Yeah. I even painted my own. Bell open face. Good ole days. Damn I miss em. Be well brother.
Thanks for this 👍💯
Damn, when 2 strokes were indoor legal
When living our damn lives was legal.
Stop it at min 6:50. Set the video speed to 25% with the settings "gear" thingie button.
And watch how beautiful Bradshaw handled that Bayle pass attempt.
The speeds are too high today for that kind of racing poetry.
God, I wanted that 900 FireBlade!
so many factory looking bikes
Bale was so badass, I think he could've beat these guys anytime he wanted. Fo sho👍
JMB :King for ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These guys definitely didn’t attack the whoops like the young men do these days. I personally think 199, Travis Pastrana changed the way riders attack the whoops.
This track looks brutal compared to today’s SX
Never did like stanton back in those day's haha! JMB was such a fun rider to watch along with Bradshaw of course.
Love ride this track looks nasty
Them whoops are crazy
Spectacular indeed !
These 90's sx tracks were tough, technical, and provided for great racing, today's tracks are relatively safe, except when one does go down it's usually way worse injures because they are carrying more speed these days....
Don't forget that technology really dictated what could be safely done back then. You couldn't have 75-foot triples because the bikes wouldn't have the power, weight, or suspension that would allow them to land them and not break in half. Technology is what made/makes the difference in tracks.
@@reverendjimjones9061 Yes, they are -- and that's primarily because of the advances in technology. You can plainly see that, as the bikes and suspensions improved, jumps got bigger and bigger -- all for the simple reason that they COULD. Tech had EVERYTHING to do with it, end of story.
@@anthonydavis9662 finally someone with some common sense in the comment section.
Balye loves to watch a Donnie Brook! Best part of the broadcast hahah
Only thing the bikes in the 80s had that I hated is that damn power band that had a mind of its own. These are 90s but it was still a problem in the early 90s
Anyone old enough understands that 4-strokes ruined all this. Electric bikes will be the final nail in the coffin, but only if people are dumb enough to buy into it. Those who think that they'll cost less are in for a rude awakening.
who cares about cost, if it's something you love doing you'll find a way to afford to do it
@@bleachinuri exactly
@@bleachinuri Who cares about cost? The guy with a mortgage and 3 kids to feed but would still like to race every once in a while dumbass
Two strokes for supercross, four strokes outdoors
@@bleachinuri Actually, "cost" figured into my decision to quit racing. When the first four-strokes hit the market, they got their power from super-short pistons which wore out twice as fast. That meant two top end changes per year. Twice the cost. Then they got so fancy with fuel injection and various changes that it was harder to do your own work on them. A lot of my fellow offroad riders were skipping races or not play-riding as much to keep down wear-n-tear, or would ride on roached tires. I had taken a Small Engine Repair course to help me keep costs down on my two-stroke Enduro bike, which I maintained myself at a considerable expense when racing 2-hour+ Hare Scrambles or 5 hour Enduros every week. I kept that poor bike running way beyond its competitive life, but with the economic crash, a lack of health insurance, and after considering the price of a new four-stroke and associated maintenance costs, I had to make the smart decision to stop racing or just go broke. I miss it like a drowning man misses oxygen, but the cost of racing is just prohibitive for too many privateers.
Wow!!!
Jean-Micheeeellllll !!!!!
*REAL racing with 2 strokes, 4 strokes is NASCAR with low attendance and a sport that is going the way of NASCAR*
Um.....no, not really...I agree that two-strokes ROOOL, but attendance numbers are consistent with motorcycle racing today. The demographics of motorcycle racing are far more sustainable than NASCAR'S aging population, and its youth participation programs nationwide assure a constant supply of new, fresh racers who can still economically compete at the amateur level. Can't do that whatsoever in NASCAR.
Any Guy Cooper's fans here?
Those bikes are the pinnacle of beauty/technology wow !
Greatest Era of SX! 2t Magic MX👍🍻
Just a wild guess. Your first era of MX/SX? :)
they must get so much arm pump that their forearms are like popeyes.
17:51 Look at the way JMB saved it after his butt got kicked in the air. His feet were off the pegs when he hit the last face/jump, and he kept his body high over the bike by grabbing the top of the seat with his knees, and took the last hit that way. So as he bounced over the top, he just got his feet over the pegs again and took off.
I don't think a pro today would ever think of that.
It's not that they wouldnt think of doing that now .
Pros today get paid a bonus to crash because any
publicity is good publicity.
@@fkhan577 Sorry, that is just silly. We need to sue our schools.
Now if you want to examine if an idea is silly, take it to "its own extreme", and see how it is silly, like this example:
How much of a bonus do they agree with for paralysis?
@@fkhan577 And for this, which is a good reply but factors are different today. The speeds are about 30% faster with the 4-strokes today,( faster engines create faster tacks), compared to the 2-stroke days (both indoors about 25%, and outdoors about 33% faster), and I don't think they have time to react like Bayle did. Block passing is a good example there too. Today, at the higher speeds and many bigger radius corners to hold those speeds, and usually up on the berm to exit at a higher speed to clear something down the straight, (many inside lines are not fast enough today for competitive lap times, so they have to go higher.), they leave themselves wide open for a block pass. But at these speeds, usually the guy getting passed does not know it in time to shut off, and they hit pretty hard.
Today, block passing by the fans is considered dirty riding. But it used to be a great way to pass when 2 guys were about the same speed.
I can teach a good history lesson of the sport in the USA. :) Doug in Michigan
Opps. sorry: And for this, which is a good reply but factors are different today. "It's not that they wouldnt think of doing that now ."---
seems like back then the track was set up to break up flow. a lot of the jumps are oddly shaped, with weird step ups on top of them and the woops are really uneven. Mow it seems like the tracks are built to promote flow........not saying one is better or more difficult just a noticed difference in style
That's been dictated by technology. I guarantee you that if the suspension units back then could have handled the tracks of today, you would have seen them. But they built what the bikes could handle back then, and advanced technology has helped to make the tracks what they are today.
NO, Anaheim 1 1986 was BY FAR the best SX race EVER!
1986 Anaheim was good but Atlanta 1990 was better. Multiple guys going back n forth who had a shot at winning the race instead of just two.
👍AWESOME
Race of LEGENDS.
Guy Cooper had McDonald's pancakes for breakfast before this and every race. True story :D
Let's see whoops like that today we'll see if they can blitz 'em... No, on second thought the crippling carnage would leave too many sidelined, let's not.
Better bikes better suspension. And you think they won’t be able to. Lmao some of y’all need wake up and smell the coffee.
@@kerontucker4488 yeah today they get one whoop out of shape they go the crying and whining. After blitzing a 1987 whoop section they'd go strait to the hospital. They'd be limping through just like rick johnson did.
Whoops are bigger now.
Guys now are more fluid also.
Chi ha fatto gare di Cross, sa cosa stanno facendo questi indimenticabili Funamboli.
Great race, but it’s not the greatest ever. Atlanta 1990 had everything this race had and more. Thanks for posting though!
Dave Despain !!! Come back !!! Please !!!
Nobody.. and I mean nobody called races better than Dave .
I was always a Guy Cooper fan...
The world before the Bubba Scrub
I still hate it when JMB takes the lead 👎🏿
Bradshaw is a punk! Great race!
Actually a super nice dude. Just comes across that way
Mcgrath was on 250 then ? Why did it look like yamaha ? Weird
He was riding the Team Peak, Pro Circuit Honda which was blue and white.
This was JM “rookie” year in 250
anti game bad guy bradshaw !
When tracks were designed to be ridden with talent, not timing.
Man these bikes were so primitive. Even the street bikes
Not.
Bet I could smoke you on one of these bikes.
Trump, still lying.
@@gleanerman2195 dont be sad.
haha back before electric start.
Back when a new bike was 4 grand. Funny huh.
@@EarthSurferUSA it's crazy how much of a price difference
Race tracks were so square back then. It's a tight race but for some reason it's not as fun to watch as modern day the races in 2012-13-14-15.
10:38 the early days of the scrub?
Not even remotely close
Lol. 18:29. That was unnecessary
JMB best ever !
The announcers are so cheesy. Lots of drama with they way they talk. Sounds like a soap opera.
It wasn't easy to find coverage of motocross before cable TV. Most of the times, a moto-race was pre-empted by some stupid stick-and-ball sports. Motocross was really more of an outside sport back then, and not often seen. I think the announcers reflect their own excitement at the relative scarcity of it all.
Campbell soup time
F Bayle.
😡bradshow