I honestly think having broken characters is fine. There are so many now that having some joke characters helps people just have fun. It doesn't need a nerf.
that ending, i laughed my ass off. it was soo funny. padding made that run incredibly broken, it kept you below 50% health at all time maiking the doublke regen kick in+ esty's couch. none of it alone made it broken, but all that together just snapped the game in half
I think there should be an item that makes it to where turrets spawn closer to the player in a rough circle (not clumped like engineer does). Also, I think every X amount of engineering should increase the structure attack speed, would be pretty cool.
Hands down the best Brotato vid I've seen so far in terms of pure enjoyment.. a big smile was plastered on my face all through the entire vid and was having a hard time trying not to laugh out loud 🤣
I guess Esty's Couch like not affected on Streamer Effect, maybe towards extra speed? Wonder if the base speed can affect the Esty's Couch regen if I getting hallucinated
It was def bugged, it seemed like it wasn't working properly (only giving +28 hp regen) on the mid-round-shop, but after the round started the regen began scaling again, by the end it definitely looked to have increased (and it wasn't just the regeneration potion). Maybe it scales logarithmically?
From my perspective, it's like an extra speed affecting it. Not in character as a basic speed, or Chunky shenanigans (it's not affected 'cuz no move modifier). If it's a bug, that's good before it got launched on official one
Yea it seemed like it only measured base speed as calculated by items, not whacky interactions. I wonder now if it would work with that item that makes you slower when you get hit. Or was that a modded item?
That's not a mod tho, Streamer and the next one is in the Early Access now. You gonna meet them on the Original Soon. Also, Tardigrade and some of them is a new item on that Early Access.
The sad part is, Esty's couch, with -50000000 speed still can barely keep up with the boss damage. The item isn't as broken as it seems. And that was with the doubled life regen.
Unfortunatelly Esty couch need permanent speed debuff. Streamer speed debuff is temporary. Otherwise he would have regen a fk ton per sec. Even more broken than that
Actually the Charakter is inspired by a German TH-camr/Streamer group called pietsmiet and one of the members asked for a Charakter with those abilities
Btw the sausages also work with the turrets they will also get added burning damage. So with the elemental damage -> engeniering damage item this would have been even more broken ;)
BREAKING NEWS: Local Potato Literally Becomes too Rich, too Slow, and too Stupid to Die They also changed the padding item I think, making it even more stupid on some characters.
Man this character getting capped at 25 materials per second now feels like a bit much for a nerf. Obviously this run is a showcase of it being way too strong if left unchecked entirely, but gaining maximum effectiveness at 825 materials is such a shame. A set of Thieves Daggers and a couple hunting trophies can easily net you thousands of bonus materials in a large wave while still being able to move, Streamer now gets a max of 2,250 if you don't move once in a 90 second wave. Obviously the strat now is to go full auto-battler maintaining your econ between the waves then cash out for the boss wave so you don't die from being unable to move, but having this potential off the back of high rolling full legendary weapons, Padding, Couch, and the new Regen item while already having 40+ regen feels fine? By the time you are able to get all of it set up you've already earned the win by playing well for the whole game leading up to it.
it looks really crazy, but you don't move at all, your assets increase just around 6 times in 60 seconds. But in 5 rounds it will already increase 7,776 times lol
I thought it was so weird for the title to be 100k every second because I thought there was NO WAY that was true, but making a clickbaity title like that is not really Retro's style, even if by a technicallity (like the title saying "1k harvesting" but that only happening after the final wave ends), and I KNOW that, but the title was so ridiculous that it made me question Retro's integrity. And I am so happy I was wrong
While it'd be odd to do it again, do you think you'll try them out with the max cap of 25 materials per second? I feel like I got to it so late that it's become...quite difficult.
they have to lower the material reduction from killing enemies and to lower the per second part, so that you don't get super behind if you are forced to move early, which clearly only depends on rng as this is a enginering character. or they should remove the dmg down per material so that you can pair structures and actual aoe dmg so that by moving you have a chance to clear out a path. you in this situation for 2/3 of the game where you either don't gain enough to make standing still good enough to compensate for the loss of material drops or have 0 dmg by your own, and super low movespeed. so it's rng on rng get good placments early so that you can stand still during several waves and get very favorable shops so that you can afford to use the character. for that you need both money stocked and enough structures to deal dmg with you being useless and slow which would already be most likely a win on another char if you are that lucky. this char doesn't need a nerf he needs a buff for the first half of the game i think making material gained scale out of another stat so that you can actually use your money and get a better income early with less crazy exponential endgame
Everybody is focusing on the late game and saying this is broken but the early game was a nail biter, he almost died several times. I think it didn't need a nerf
this dev should act like vampire survivors dev and not take this game too seriously, cant believe they nerfed so much that its basically not worth playing
To everyone who sees the title of this video, I promise you this: you do NOT know what 100,000 materials every second looks like. You don't even know what 10,000 materials every second looks like. NOTHING WILL PREPARE YOU FOR THIS VIDEO.
The most broken run I ever had, by a very wide margin, was with Lucky. I got a shedload of luck, I forget how many cyberballs, I forget how many baby elephants, and the Sifding Tool (yes that's my headcanon name for it). I don't remember even seeing enemies towards the end. There was just a constant stream of materials and everything died the moment it spawned. The only reason I even moved around was to look for trees. My slingshots were completely irrelevant after I'd killed the first few enemies in the round and started the feedback loop. I think that was only less broken than your streamer run on the boss wave TBH. Rounds ~14-19, I couldn't take damage even when I tried.
and therefore nursing is not a stressful thing I've done in my life, what, operating under the assumption that what I said _wasn't_ a joke (which it was) what would your point even be anyways lol
Strength integrity is an important overlooked thing in games these days. I love breaking the game, I adore huge stupid numbers, I love it when a strategy I use makes a tough game easy. Pretty much everyone does. However, there is a line that can be drawn where it gets out of hand and it makes the game feel trivial in a way where it fell apart at the seams... in a way that strips any feeling of polish and developer intentionality out of the picture. At worst it makes your other runs where you aren't abusing the easy gamebreak feel tedious by comparison. I _personally_ feel like that line can be drawn at about 100,000 materials a second lol. I think the nerf is a bit too far, and not how I would have done it, but this level of breaking is beyond necessity. I do agree it is far more dire with universal items than a character, but this isn't the end of the world and people have become far to upset with knee-jerk reactions to nerfs recently. Blobfish has been very responsible with them, and every patch that nerfs something buffs _far more things_ than got nerfed. The entire game has been getting noticeably easier every single patch since Early Access started.
Kinda annoys me to no end. I come back to the game after a few months, hearing there is finally a endless mode and now everything is nerfed to oblivion that was fun to play with. Not easy to get. You had to get it just right to kick it off. Eh... Well it was fun while it lasted.
I was right, it got fixed before this video went live lol
how'd they end up changing it?
A buddy of mine was passing by me, and, NO JOKE, said, "Oh, are you watching sifd? I hate how he uses mods like that." WOW.
@@Snusen89 why not just try and make it very diminishing returns instead of neutering it
Aw.
@@jakdanny6753 I can't tell if you're mocking me or if you're just plain weird.
I honestly think having broken characters is fine. There are so many now that having some joke characters helps people just have fun. It doesn't need a nerf.
Especially since the outcome really has minimal to no bearing on game outcome. Sometimes we just want to watch the world burn (video games)!
Yea. Fun characters are fun. It's single player, so no one is getting cheated or whatever.
@@bk6555 Bio Prototype is the best Game for broken Builds
And this is why you don't get to do the game balancing
@@jbdbibbaerman8071ong 💀
that ending, i laughed my ass off. it was soo funny.
padding made that run incredibly broken, it kept you below 50% health at all time maiking the doublke regen kick in+ esty's couch.
none of it alone made it broken, but all that together just snapped the game in half
I think there should be an item that makes it to where turrets spawn closer to the player in a rough circle (not clumped like engineer does). Also, I think every X amount of engineering should increase the structure attack speed, would be pretty cool.
I agree because engineering just isn’t that good on most characters, and it’s hard to come by.
I love how your health bar at the end of the final wave was screaming at you for being so close to death and yet....
LOL
He lost about 100hp in boss wave overall. It's ridiculous how broken it was.
this was hell of an experience, great af, thanks for being u retro.
Hands down the best Brotato vid I've seen so far in terms of pure enjoyment.. a big smile was plastered on my face all through the entire vid and was having a hard time trying not to laugh out loud 🤣
SAME BROO I WAS JUST SCALING HOW MUCH IT WAS GOING UP EVERY SECOND
it is so funny that the most broken build literally doesnt let you move and you have a -290k percent damage debuff.
But the way it’s broken: Your about as rotund as giant whales and scale up more hp.
He had so much max hp that by the end, the 1600 hp was 0.4% of his max hp
About 3.6% Of his max HP, not 0.4%. 1600/44000*100=3.63636
Imagine if HP regen was still % hp like it used to be
That doesn't sound correct at all
Amazing stuff. You are such a good creator. Thanks so much
I guess Esty's Couch like not affected on Streamer Effect, maybe towards extra speed?
Wonder if the base speed can affect the Esty's Couch regen if I getting hallucinated
It was def bugged, it seemed like it wasn't working properly (only giving +28 hp regen) on the mid-round-shop, but after the round started the regen began scaling again, by the end it definitely looked to have increased (and it wasn't just the regeneration potion). Maybe it scales logarithmically?
From my perspective, it's like an extra speed affecting it. Not in character as a basic speed, or Chunky shenanigans (it's not affected 'cuz no move modifier). If it's a bug, that's good before it got launched on official one
Yea it seemed like it only measured base speed as calculated by items, not whacky interactions.
I wonder now if it would work with that item that makes you slower when you get hit. Or was that a modded item?
That's not a mod tho, Streamer and the next one is in the Early Access now. You gonna meet them on the Original Soon.
Also, Tardigrade and some of them is a new item on that Early Access.
"You are an EPIC act like it" , dropped laughing XD
Streamer - they stand still behind their turret/camera and get paid: it finally made sense to me on the first wave when you moved to it.
My chest hurts from laughing. The slow realization of how OP you became when you picked up padding LOL
Yo! This is the earliest I've found one of your videos!
This was so amazing. Thank you for today.
The sad part is, Esty's couch, with -50000000 speed still can barely keep up with the boss damage. The item isn't as broken as it seems. And that was with the doubled life regen.
it's capped at 10 hp regen per second. Etsy's Couch was beyond overkill because most of the stats were just wasted.
@@pyrosfyre789 "Most" Lets be honest, as accurate as that word is it's the understatement of century.
Unfortunatelly Esty couch need permanent speed debuff. Streamer speed debuff is temporary. Otherwise he would have regen a fk ton per sec. Even more broken than that
@@-.--Y..-U...S..-U..-.F yeah, it gave him 28 regen for the -15% slowdown the Etsy couch gives...
That was the craziest video I've seen yet
I am 100% sure that this character is exactly created for this, Blobfish basically giving out views for content creators
Actually the Charakter is inspired by a German TH-camr/Streamer group called pietsmiet and one of the members asked for a Charakter with those abilities
@@cyrex1380 haha, nice! I'm assuming you are one of them though :D
@@ZeDlinG67 nah they got like 2,5 Million followers ^^
My man is somehow healthier than gigachads that train there bodys every day and you can't even move, logic seems to be streaming
Btw the sausages also work with the turrets they will also get added burning damage. So with the elemental damage -> engeniering damage item this would have been even more broken ;)
unfortunately %damage reduces burning damage
This was the funniest Bro vid you’ve done.Made me belly laugh when you couldn’t move.
BREAKING NEWS: Local Potato Literally Becomes too Rich, too Slow, and too Stupid to Die
They also changed the padding item I think, making it even more stupid on some characters.
@@jpryan90 Oh, not stupid bad, stupid good because it is not a set bonus based just on when you buy it
This run was insane, loved it!
One of the most interesting run ever!
That was a ton of fun to watch! Keep up the good work
Man this character getting capped at 25 materials per second now feels like a bit much for a nerf. Obviously this run is a showcase of it being way too strong if left unchecked entirely, but gaining maximum effectiveness at 825 materials is such a shame. A set of Thieves Daggers and a couple hunting trophies can easily net you thousands of bonus materials in a large wave while still being able to move, Streamer now gets a max of 2,250 if you don't move once in a 90 second wave.
Obviously the strat now is to go full auto-battler maintaining your econ between the waves then cash out for the boss wave so you don't die from being unable to move, but having this potential off the back of high rolling full legendary weapons, Padding, Couch, and the new Regen item while already having 40+ regen feels fine? By the time you are able to get all of it set up you've already earned the win by playing well for the whole game leading up to it.
That was pretty cool. So much health. So much money.
This was a great demonstration of why I think padding is secretly the most powerful item in the game.
That was the most insane thing I have ever seen. 😆
Nice stand still build. Throw caution to the wind reto.
"good luck balancing this character" *character gets nerfed into the fucking core of the earth*
I think the chopper got health scaling so it would be cool to see a chunky run with it.
Great Run
Lol so close to death you had like 1% health 😆
Oh and you almost died like 40 times during the run to get there
That was hilarious, thank you.
Ok... padding is a little less bad than I thought xD
27:58 also, look at those dumb stats lol
it looks really crazy, but you don't move at all, your assets increase just around 6 times in 60 seconds. But in 5 rounds it will already increase 7,776 times lol
The immortality build.
I thought it was so weird for the title to be 100k every second because I thought there was NO WAY that was true, but making a clickbaity title like that is not really Retro's style, even if by a technicallity (like the title saying "1k harvesting" but that only happening after the final wave ends), and I KNOW that, but the title was so ridiculous that it made me question Retro's integrity.
And I am so happy I was wrong
That was pretty awesome, good game 😛
This is one hell of a run 😂😂
While it'd be odd to do it again, do you think you'll try them out with the max cap of 25 materials per second? I feel like I got to it so late that it's become...quite difficult.
Reto, what have you done. You broke Brotato
they have to lower the material reduction from killing enemies and to lower the per second part, so that you don't get super behind if you are forced to move early, which clearly only depends on rng as this is a enginering character. or they should remove the dmg down per material so that you can pair structures and actual aoe dmg so that by moving you have a chance to clear out a path. you in this situation for 2/3 of the game where you either don't gain enough to make standing still good enough to compensate for the loss of material drops or have 0 dmg by your own, and super low movespeed. so it's rng on rng get good placments early so that you can stand still during several waves and get very favorable shops so that you can afford to use the character. for that you need both money stocked and enough structures to deal dmg with you being useless and slow which would already be most likely a win on another char if you are that lucky.
this char doesn't need a nerf he needs a buff for the first half of the game
i think making material gained scale out of another stat so that you can actually use your money and get a better income early with less crazy exponential endgame
This build and character is just busted like holy
Esty’s coach would have been hilarious
Dunno why it didn’t work
seems like, once you made it as a streamer, you don't need to do a lot to make more money😏
great run! really enjoyed watching it =D
Looks like you thought about the turret build for streamer, which is waht i thought would be kinda broken with him
Everybody is focusing on the late game and saying this is broken but the early game was a nail biter, he almost died several times. I think it didn't need a nerf
"Metal gear rising reference" standing here i realise
This feels like a Spiffing Brit video lol
Item idea: each shop has a guaranteed item of epic rarity
I think they could've balanced this by making you lose materials when hit or something, capping it just seems boring.
I wanna see you use some mods.
Try out the rainbow lootbox mod.
Amazing mod
This guy is the best click bait youtuber cuz he doesnt click bait lol
breaking news: local streamer ascends godhood
I think you managed to hit such a low movement speed that couch went negative just like enough negative range will make range go up again
He just needs estacy's couch and plateing
... it took him 20 sec to get both
when you have low material, you should not be standing still. collect all the material in the beginning to hit the higher scaling asap
I think its like the real world, streamers exactly Work like this irl
That was actually partly the idea behind the streamer
I'm sad that Etys Couch wasnt working properly and giving you 292034 HP regen by the end
Gets capped at like 10 I think
Was insane!!!!
This is one that I wish you did go on to endless mode just to see how stupid it would get
The new haracter is kinda broken
Wait this looks fun vs what I just started playing
here me out legendary called drone= all turrets now orbit around you ( same distance as other orbital stuff)
Have they patched the no win limit when standing? I've been playing Brotato for a short time and it appears that its limit is 25 x second.
Help pls
Really sad they nerfed this so hard, game breaking runs are part of the fun of roguelites :(
does the stutterwalk you used for the soldier work for this one?
unfortunately no, you need to be still for a full second
@@Retromation .sad
When I clicked on the video I thought "it can't be that high...100k a second in materials"
How wrong I was.
this dev should act like vampire survivors dev and not take this game too seriously, cant believe they nerfed so much that its basically not worth playing
omg this char is caped at 25 max per second now ..... OMG
I now know how streamers make so much money🤣🤣
its crazy how this isnt modded
More HP reg with less Movementspeed + gain more and more Money = less Movementspeed ... ^^
I bought this game today and dont know how to pass level 0. My max stage was 16 I guess. What to do?
ow, just did it with ingeneer, thx. Final boss lvl 0: done
Get better
Wave 18 and zero Padding?
This was fantastic. lol
What a shame this was not an endless run :(
On the day he recorded that endless mode didnt exist yet
too bad there wasnt an endless mode when this vid came out :D
21:55
Wait, how come Esty's couch didnt give you infinite dodge with -145000 speed?
it doesn't work with temporary stats since it gives temporary stats itself
If you play this optimally and try to have actualy damage and speed for the last wave, then half of this video would be you spending money on wave 19.
Sad you didn't do endless
Exponential scaling is always a balancing mistake~
-292k% damgae lmao
To everyone who sees the title of this video, I promise you this: you do NOT know what 100,000 materials every second looks like. You don't even know what 10,000 materials every second looks like.
NOTHING WILL PREPARE YOU FOR THIS VIDEO.
why i don't have those caracter
The most broken run I ever had, by a very wide margin, was with Lucky. I got a shedload of luck, I forget how many cyberballs, I forget how many baby elephants, and the Sifding Tool (yes that's my headcanon name for it). I don't remember even seeing enemies towards the end. There was just a constant stream of materials and everything died the moment it spawned. The only reason I even moved around was to look for trees. My slingshots were completely irrelevant after I'd killed the first few enemies in the round and started the feedback loop. I think that was only less broken than your streamer run on the boss wave TBH. Rounds ~14-19, I couldn't take damage even when I tried.
Too bad estys couch didn't really work with the characters own negative speed
This is the most stressful thing I've done in my life?!
Naw bro. You are not a nurse.
and therefore nursing is not a stressful thing I've done in my life, what, operating under the assumption that what I said _wasn't_ a joke (which it was) what would your point even be anyways lol
just f**** awesome
Most broken run ever and didn't even kill the bosses, how crazy is that
was nicer without the 25 max cap =(
a nerf was probably needed, but I am not sure the 25 cap is how I would have done it
Strength integrity is an important overlooked thing in games these days. I love breaking the game, I adore huge stupid numbers, I love it when a strategy I use makes a tough game easy. Pretty much everyone does. However, there is a line that can be drawn where it gets out of hand and it makes the game feel trivial in a way where it fell apart at the seams... in a way that strips any feeling of polish and developer intentionality out of the picture. At worst it makes your other runs where you aren't abusing the easy gamebreak feel tedious by comparison. I _personally_ feel like that line can be drawn at about 100,000 materials a second lol.
I think the nerf is a bit too far, and not how I would have done it, but this level of breaking is beyond necessity. I do agree it is far more dire with universal items than a character, but this isn't the end of the world and people have become far to upset with knee-jerk reactions to nerfs recently. Blobfish has been very responsible with them, and every patch that nerfs something buffs _far more things_ than got nerfed. The entire game has been getting noticeably easier every single patch since Early Access started.
Engineer Gaming
this run was more broken than a modded run lol
Too bad the game ends at round 20 imagine a build with 4 million dollars worth of items
Kinda annoys me to no end. I come back to the game after a few months, hearing there is finally a endless mode and now everything is nerfed to oblivion that was fun to play with. Not easy to get. You had to get it just right to kick it off.
Eh... Well it was fun while it lasted.
What are you talking about, nearly everything is stronger than it is ever been lol. It is extremely easy to get busted now haha.
bruh they maxed it at +25 gain now, shame, lol