The one thing going against the idea Henry had nothing to do with the Puppet’s creation is that it was specifically designed to watch over Charlie. Its only task in the Sercurity Puppet mini game is to keep its assigned child from leaving the building. And the only child it is ever assigned to keep from leaving the building is the one with a green wristband. And Charlie is the only child with a green wristband. Even when Charlie isn’t around it’s still only tasked with watching out for the child with the green wristband. Henry at the very least was involved with coding the Puppet
I agree. I was looking more at the designs for this which got me a head space of thinking "Edwin made the Mimic and daycare attendant. They're both tall and skinny anmatronics. The puppet is tall and skinny. Puppet made by edwin" plus I was trying to cook somthing in the background for my timeline that didn't seem to pan out like I thought
Ok so one problem I have with saying the Rockstars and more specifically Lefty being made by William is that Lefty’s Blueprint in the Insanity Ending is labeled as Fazbear Entertainment Inc as opposed to The Scooper which is labeled Afton Robotics LLC. RASC is also labeled the same as Lefty so both were seemingly made for the FFPS plan Basically if Lefty and by extension the rockstars were made by Afton post fnaf 2 they would most likely be under the Afton Robotics label on their blueprint which they are not
5:34 Disagree. The animatronics are known to be able to change their appearance. Tears on Puppet, Golden Freddy somehow gets fixed despite being retired, Fredbears bowtie and hat, and Baby's eyes, just to name a few. Golden Freddy also managed to fit inside a car in the movie despite him not actually being able to fit with his normal size. Plus, FNAF World also shows us he might not actually be a floating head, but he changes the size of his head, and his body is just covered. Golden Freddy just has weird unexplained powers.
The 2 hat colors can be chalked up to 2 different golden freddy animatronics, a fredbear with a black/brown hat and bowtie, and one with purple accessories. it wouldn't be far fetched to think a spare suit was made.
@@heyitsmegoku4 We do know for a fact that multiple Springlock suits exist thanks to FNAF 3 and FNAF 4. However, UCU heavily suggests that Purple Bowtie and Hat Fredbear are the same as Black Bowtie and Hat Golden Freddy. Plus, we know from other examples that the suits can change, so there is no reason to believe that this isn't one of those cases.
I feel like using fingers as evidence to figure out who made what is arbitrary and looking for clues where there isn't any there. I several doubt that Scott cared about finger count and when he did it was probably for Spring and Scraptrap as they are costumes that need to fit a human hand, which is why they have 5 fingers.
I would agree that at a certain point Scott probably didn't think to far into number of fingers and designs like that but it seems he started thinking about it by at least fnaf 2. The toys have finger joints on their hands where the withereds don't. This design alone shows that he was at least thinking about how a hard plastic animatronic would need joints in the fingers where a felt one like the witherds and the fnaf 1 animatronics wouldn't need them since fabric bends and moves. And it looks like Scott thought about it more with each game after. Springtrap had 5 fingers instead of 4 because he's a springlock suit. SL had hard plastic animatronics with faceplates and other additional moving parts because they're meant to come apart. Etc.
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I agree, what's the point of making their design more scary and primitive, and spending a lot of money on it. And then spend even more money to return them their "classic look". It seems to me that this is a wrong interpretation of the phrase, and it quickly turned into a storm in a teacup
Into the pit shows the fnaf 1 designs in the 1985 location, the week before states that the animatronics were reverted back to their original designs, fnaf 1 has those designs again, and the withereds aren't those same designs. The fnaf 1 designs are the classic/original designs.
4:11 Maybe Lefty is the games version of a Twisted Animatronic. If you think about it, the Twisted Animatronics capture people by luring them in the Twisted Ones. But in the games, Lefty captures the Puppet by luring her. Maybe William used Lefty as a twisted animatronic like in the books but without an illusion disc.
What's your thoughts on CharlieFriendDCI? This is basically the theory that the DCI victims were the game universe equivalents of Charlie's friends from the novels. Everyone else in the novels has a game equivalent at this point... This also fits things like the Teenager Break-In theory you see occasionally for DCI, or why despite the event seemingly occuring during the week William is working it isn't discovered til later (Teenagers and college students going missing at night when sneaking off isn't going to immediately raise a red flag signaling at Freddys...also in the book Carltons dad dismisses him vanishing). Also Afton in the books at this point is working as a night guard under a fake name just like in the first week the FNAF 2 location is open when the DCI happened. In the game universe, they all still existed(Just as Henry and Charlie and Afton and Elizabeth all do), they all still broke in, except without Charlie immediately with them to knock out Willy, she couldn't "SAVE THEM" in time. (Also zero clue who is who other than basically everyone who believes in this theory thinks Marla is Mangle. For example, Carlton could be Freddy because of being trapped in a Freddy suit or Chica because out of the main 3 because the other two main friends have Freddy and Bonnie as their favourites, or Balloon Boy because he likes to play pranks, or JJ because he hides under a table and JJ does and also a ton of people think there's a 6th victim because 6 blood stains and the last body is hiding under the table. That's the worst case. Jessica mostly fits Toy Chica, but Bonnie is her childhood favourite. Jason could be Toy Freddy because he's a gamer, or he could be BB or JJ because he's the youngest, or he could be Mangle's Male Head forever attached to his older sister. Et Cetera.)
2:54 The reason why they have different numbered fingers is because Henry lost a finger from Fredbear biting off his finger so he designed the Fredbear suit to have only 4 fingers so that he can properly wear him. So there were two bites of 83 meaning CC getting bit was the bite of 83, the sequel
Dude, your LEFT-E Theory makes so much sense! There are design elements that are downright cruel (the continuous controlled shock wand) that wouldn't make sense if Henry originally built it, especially knowing that my Poor Baby Charlie was possessing it. If he's as good as a father as most of the fandom thinks he is, then he wouldn't have built something to further hurt his daughter, even if it was a risk that she'd escape the giant pizza oven in FNAF 6. Actually, if Charlie really is as aware and intelligent as the games make her out to be and Henry says she is, once she heard her father's voice and saw for herself that William was Trapped and Doomed, she would've happily burned because her Missions to Save and Free all of the murdered children's spirits would be accomplished with her Daddy and Michael's help AND THE MONSTER WHO WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO MURDER HER SO PAINFULLY WOULD BE GONE AT LAST. William is a serial child killer who feels no remorse for his actions. Sister Location showed us that William gave absolutely no fucks about hurting the animatronics and his go-to torture method was Controlled Shocks. The Scooper was saved for egregious misbehavior (like forming into Ennard and getting caught by technicians/himself???) and for his twisted Remnant experiments. Even knowing that Elizabeth was possessing Baby didn't stop him from zapping her all the time. Hell, knowing William, he would see zapping Baby as punishing Elizabeth for not listening to him in the first place! Regardless of who built him, LEFT-E was still an animatronic that needed to be Burned. Henry may have seen it on surviving surveillance footage, sent someone out to go find him, and when inspecting it for authenticity, he would've found The Puppet and if he kept The Security Bracelet as a memento/reminder of his biggest failure that he kept on him, once he turned it on, the bracelet would've gone nuts, leading to him finding The Puppet inside and when seeing the tear streaks, immediately realizing that Charlie was in there. Thus, he made LEFT-E as cheap as possible for the catalogue and made sure it would get to The Alley by keeping The Bracelet on. It makes sense! And it would get rid of a lot of the Bad Father allegations for Henry. Well, Game Henry, anyways. Book Henry's a lost cause!
Henry himself said he made Lefti so the finger theory is wrong in this certain case. All the rockstars animatronic have the same jaw metal thing as the mediocre melodies which are also from Henry.
If William created Lefty, then what if Shadow Freddy in Follow Me actually IS Lefty, and the reason the animatronics follow her is because they sense the Puppet is inside the Lefty suit.
To be honest, I don't think we should trust animatronic designs more than narrative consistency when figuring out who built which animatronics. For example, it doesn't make sense that a springlock suit like Fredbear has four fingers if it was meant to be worn by people. So why does it have only four fingers? That's because Golden Freddy was introduced in FNAF 1, but Scott Cawthon only came up with the idea of springlock suits in FNAF 3, and turned Fredbear into one retroactively. ...Unless Golden Freddy is NOT a springlock suit at all. Maybe he's a different animatronic from Fredbear altogether, and we can differentiate the two by their bowties and hats. I don't find anything immediately wrong with such an interpretation, but it certainly would affect a lot of theories. There's no way BiteVictim could haunt Golden Freddy if that's the case. I mean, it's either that or we accept that Scott has faced many limitations while working on a story that he made up along the way. So anyway, I don't think Lefty and the Rockstars having five fingers means that William built them. The Rockstars are clearly in good condition, it's hard to believe that they were built thirty years prior to Pizzeria Simulator. It's much more likely that Henry built them in preparation for his ultimate plan. Same thing for Lefty.
I really wanna add to this narrative, what's cool is that you can make the Glamrocks work while strengthening Edwin's character. They're a culmination of the older animatronic design philosophies. You have the Mimic-inspired Endos, the modularity of the Funtimes, and the sleek appearance of the Toys. In the Tales stories, Edwin is still working for Fazbear, but is in more of an honorary position during the time of the Pizzaplex. Someone with such a long, storied career, who was influenced by the founders, would likely inspire the members of the engineering teams, right? Also fits nicely with the idea that the more Fazbear tries to forge into the future, it's always haunted by the past.
I honestly kinda love the idea that William and Henry are extremely fixated on consistent design traits and Edwin is more experimental. It kinda lines up with their stories too? Fredbear's was (given the name at least) a family business that got absorbed into a larger franchise, so Henry and William would have more experience with what they specialize in and their particular ways, while Edwin is working by commission, so when he does his own work it's weird and far less in line with anything else, just because he can. ALSO, WILLIAM designing Lefty makes *so* much sense. The idea that Henry basically springlocks his own daughter, lures and captures her against her will, and seemingly has zero remorse for it and doesn't even acknowledge it, is hard to swallow with him being treated as a good guy voice of reason type. The only "moral" justification is if she's just too far gone mentally to come willingly, and still doesn't explain why she or Lefty's built-in AI attacks you. LEFTE is much more in line with the things William would design, and is included alongside blueprints that show *other things* Afton's company made and worked with, like the Scooper. The only thing there Henry most likely made is the travelling lure thing that is probably what you use in that game to do audio lures.
Funtimes,BB, Funtime foxy, helpy,springBonnie also probably Jackie/ William afton Fredbear, the classic, the rockstars, carine/lefty, the puppet/henry The costumes and some of Chica/edwin
If you have seen that one channel with the "charlies death" short movie, it makes sense that henry has no part in making it? Fredbear's Family Diner - Part 11 - "The Death of Charlotte Emily" then makes sense But if charli is alive then i have no idea.
I think both fruit punch and lemonade clowns belong to Afton rather than Henry or Edwin Not just the clown looks, but the minigame where they both scare the children, and knowing kids, they would run away possibly making it easier for the funtimes to lure and misdirect. Thinking of it, the kid screams and runs away from the clown, only to be manipulated by the animatronics until they get too close then they are captured.
That's a good point. I didn't even think of those minigames. I wasn't even sure scaring was what they were doing to be honest. The reason I said Edwin tho was cause the fingers being both henrys design and a soft material while the rest of the animatronic is a hard material made me think Edwin was smart enough to take the hard outer shell plastic from Williams design, add the soft touch from henrys design, and add in his love for making everyday objects robots (in this case and punch bowl) and you'd get something like the clowns
Thank you! And I do see a major flaw in my puppet idea now. Just thought puppet fit the "strange and skinny" animatronic trend Edwin has with the Mimic and daycare attendant.
So first off, I love the idea of William building Lefty. It makes perfect sense given how its explained in the blueprints. I always thought it looked like a cruel thing for Henry to put Charlie through, but if Afton does it things like the repeated controlled shocks in the "soothing method" make way more sense. Im adopting that into my current headcanon. Id be interested to see how they fit in the timeline if thats the case. seeing as people seemingly has assumed Henry had made the rockstars for Pizza Sim. Second thing, Im not convinced that the Books are in the games yet. Its certainly plausible, but Id rather theyre parallels rather than the canon games continuity. Edwin feels like hes taking over Henrys niech. Especially the way you tell it. Hennery was always the visionary genius roboticist of the early days of Freddys. it seems like a waist to make Edwin this big character when Henry has never been properly explored. We know next to nothing about him in the games. So Im hoping that Henry made the Mimic, and by extension sun and moon. You did make a compelling case for Edwin making some of them tho, so Ill keep an open mind. Lastly, I dont know if I buy the toys being made by William. the FNAF 2 phone calls imply that he was working as a night guard before fnaf 2, which would be odd if he was also the guy building the animatronics. Tho the toy designs do share some superficial qualitys with the FunTimes. I'm open to it, but the night guard thing would need to be considered to make it work. ( If Afton builds Lefty the idea he made the puppet too is compelling. seeing how he knew how to lure it. Just to throw it out there) Anyway, good video God bless
I enjoy the premise of the video but the design language of each creator can change over the time, I think it should be supporting evidence and each animatronic/group should be tackled on a case by case basis.
My theory golden Freddy is a hallucination based off of the trauma that Michael experienced from the bite of 83 and because he is the night guard in the first 3 games that's why golden Freddy only has four fingers
Isn't more simple to the withereds just be redsigns from the classics because scott wanted to make the classics scarier Henry made the concept and edwin provided the technology
Hard disagree on Edwin making rhe classics. The story implied edwins animatronics all are mascot costumes turned into animatronic suits, as seen in Ruin. Seeing as Freddys opens in 1983, and The Mimic mostly is set in 1978, itd make sense if Edwin didnt create the classics/unwithered, but rather the Balloon Circus animatronics.
Id disagree since the ones Mascots we see in ruin aren't animatronics, they're just the costumes. He was turning those Mascots into animatronics like what we see in fnaf 1. The balloon and circus could make sense later in the timeline but not in upgrading a Mascots suit in my opinion due to them being made of harder materials. He'd have to create a whole outer casing with the animatronic on his small budget.
@TerminalError I mean, why would they? Animatronics irl don't have visible joints and look more like the circus mascots than anything in FNaF sometimes. I think it's very possible they repurposed those mascots into animatronic characters. Namely because there's an entire story where Edwin is doing just that. Turning them into Springlock suits, specifically, actually.
Yes and in that story he's working on chica, which either implies he works on all the classics, or he, for some reason, only works on Chica. The odds of some of the other 17 animatronics being the original Freddy, foxy, and Bonnie are likely considering we don't yet know of 17 other animatronics from this time period.
@TerminalError orrr...chica is older than Freddy Fazbear's Pizza and chica comes from fall fest (just like Mr Hippo, Happy Frog, Monty, etc.) meaning that the chica in the story is a costume worn at fall fest, turned into an animatronic. The animatronics he made were the mascot costumes from Ruin but with a Springlock endoskeleton inside basically. I don't think turning a mascot suit into an animatronic character would involve turning it into a completely different type of animatronic suit/shell. It'd probably just be putting an Endo in the suit. Edwin even calls the characters "circus like" in the story, making it pretty clear these are characters for fall fest. Everything we've seen of SotM has the animatronics look like the mascot suits from Ruin. This is very clearly to show that Edwin DIDNT make the unwithered.
Edwin doesn't exist in the games and attributing any part of Henry's work to him is stealing a great part of what makes Henry himself Also Egg Baby is 100% Henry's design because it's also a data archive for Henry's plans
Nah, Edwin exists. He just made Trash and the gang, the mimic, and turned mascot suits into animatronics. He probably made the OG versions of Mr Hippo, Happy Frog, Orville, Pigpatch, Monty, and Roxy though. Also, Daycare Attendant is 100% in SotM, so him too.
@@JackieJKENVtuber last I recall, Henry didn't own a massive factory where he turned mascot suits into animatronic characters. I don't recall Henry being bought out by Fazbear Entertainment in the 70s to develop animatronics based on the success of Mr Hugs. I don't recall Henry taking a preexisting chick mascot suit and turning it into a chica animatronic In fact, the books imply Edwin and Henry are different dudes. The Mimic is sent to the FFPS location in the books, but that location wouldn't exist without Henry. And Edwin is alive post FNaF 6 in The Storyteller. Also, William Afton is mentioned in Pressure (which gives us the origin to the Burntrap suit)
sorry, lefty and the rockstars have this weird quirk where their jaws are not on a hinge, like all of william's OTHER animatronics, they are on a up/down piston thing, which people have theorized that it is a quirk with henry's designs, soooo... this disproves your theory about the rockstars made by william.
SotM is set in his factory from the books. Though I will disagree with his take on Edwin creating the classics. He created the Balloon Circus gang, if anything
@@Spazy912 nope. There's cutouts and mascot costumes everywhere apparently. It's a place for fall fest/Fazbear Entertainment stuff. Which is 1:1 with Edwin's factory from the books. They even have No 1 Crate apparently, in reference to how Edwin was hired by FE after making an autonomous vacuum cleaner Robot (Mr Hugs).
SOTM does make me think Edwin is coming to the games. I also don't think any of the tales books contradict anything we know from the games and, in fact, enhances what we know about them.
Plushtrap does have five but you have a point with the others. Bon bon, bonnet, and that Freddles all have 3 fingers (bon bon and bonnet kind of but not really, they have paw pad things but there's 3) and the minirinas don't have any. I'd say that bon bon, bonnet, and the Freddles even tho they don't have the same amount of fingers, they're clearly made to be with the main animatronic for them (funtime and nightmare freddy) I could see the minirinas being made by who made one of the puppets tho
@TerminalError are you sure about that cause most images of Plushtrap show him with only four fingers I even googled the question how many fingers does Plushtrap have to make sure and Five Nights at Freddy's wiki says he has four fingers and three toes
I just looked it up myself and I found the issue. We're both right about the number of fingers (technically you're more right however for this discussion). Fnaf 4, ucn, and fnaf ar give plushtrap and his variants 4 fingers but help wanted and a cardboard cutout in security breach show him with 5. Don't know why it's different but I assumed it was the same. So during the Scott era of the games when he was originally designed by Scott, he had 4 fingers.
The one thing going against the idea Henry had nothing to do with the Puppet’s creation is that it was specifically designed to watch over Charlie. Its only task in the Sercurity Puppet mini game is to keep its assigned child from leaving the building. And the only child it is ever assigned to keep from leaving the building is the one with a green wristband. And Charlie is the only child with a green wristband. Even when Charlie isn’t around it’s still only tasked with watching out for the child with the green wristband. Henry at the very least was involved with coding the Puppet
Only counterargument I could think of is that pumped was for all of founders' children. I don't really believe that just an idea
I agree. I was looking more at the designs for this which got me a head space of thinking "Edwin made the Mimic and daycare attendant. They're both tall and skinny anmatronics. The puppet is tall and skinny. Puppet made by edwin" plus I was trying to cook somthing in the background for my timeline that didn't seem to pan out like I thought
Ok so one problem I have with saying the Rockstars and more specifically Lefty being made by William is that Lefty’s Blueprint in the Insanity Ending is labeled as Fazbear Entertainment Inc as opposed to The Scooper which is labeled Afton Robotics LLC. RASC is also labeled the same as Lefty so both were seemingly made for the FFPS plan
Basically if Lefty and by extension the rockstars were made by Afton post fnaf 2 they would most likely be under the Afton Robotics label on their blueprint which they are not
5:34 Disagree. The animatronics are known to be able to change their appearance. Tears on Puppet, Golden Freddy somehow gets fixed despite being retired, Fredbears bowtie and hat, and Baby's eyes, just to name a few.
Golden Freddy also managed to fit inside a car in the movie despite him not actually being able to fit with his normal size. Plus, FNAF World also shows us he might not actually be a floating head, but he changes the size of his head, and his body is just covered.
Golden Freddy just has weird unexplained powers.
He *is* a supernatural spirit, there's no reason he has to stay consistent
The 2 hat colors can be chalked up to 2 different golden freddy animatronics, a fredbear with a black/brown hat and bowtie, and one with purple accessories. it wouldn't be far fetched to think a spare suit was made.
I have a HEADcanon that Golden Freddy head also is real in some way, as a retired giant Fredbear head for the buildings (like in DSaF 3)
@@heyitsmegoku4 We do know for a fact that multiple Springlock suits exist thanks to FNAF 3 and FNAF 4. However, UCU heavily suggests that Purple Bowtie and Hat Fredbear are the same as Black Bowtie and Hat Golden Freddy.
Plus, we know from other examples that the suits can change, so there is no reason to believe that this isn't one of those cases.
1:45 Thank god for context being there
Lmao, context is really needed there
I feel like using fingers as evidence to figure out who made what is arbitrary and looking for clues where there isn't any there. I several doubt that Scott cared about finger count and when he did it was probably for Spring and Scraptrap as they are costumes that need to fit a human hand, which is why they have 5 fingers.
I would agree that at a certain point Scott probably didn't think to far into number of fingers and designs like that but it seems he started thinking about it by at least fnaf 2. The toys have finger joints on their hands where the withereds don't. This design alone shows that he was at least thinking about how a hard plastic animatronic would need joints in the fingers where a felt one like the witherds and the fnaf 1 animatronics wouldn't need them since fabric bends and moves. And it looks like Scott thought about it more with each game after. Springtrap had 5 fingers instead of 4 because he's a springlock suit. SL had hard plastic animatronics with faceplates and other additional moving parts because they're meant to come apart. Etc.
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7:25 "their classic look"* and btw classic doesn't always mean "original" or "pristine"
I agree, what's the point of making their design more scary and primitive, and spending a lot of money on it. And then spend even more money to return them their "classic look". It seems to me that this is a wrong interpretation of the phrase, and it quickly turned into a storm in a teacup
Into the pit shows the fnaf 1 designs in the 1985 location, the week before states that the animatronics were reverted back to their original designs, fnaf 1 has those designs again, and the withereds aren't those same designs. The fnaf 1 designs are the classic/original designs.
@@TerminalError That's not confirmed, also remember Ralph had a bad memory
0:52 well... the mimic actually had its head replaced after Edwin beat it up so I don't think I can be used as evidence
I think it was the legs not the head that was replaced
@artisamongus8838 the head was replaced. It wasn't even built with legs actually.
4:11 Maybe Lefty is the games version of a Twisted Animatronic. If you think about it, the Twisted Animatronics capture people by luring them in the Twisted Ones. But in the games, Lefty captures the Puppet by luring her. Maybe William used Lefty as a twisted animatronic like in the books but without an illusion disc.
What's your thoughts on CharlieFriendDCI?
This is basically the theory that the DCI victims were the game universe equivalents of Charlie's friends from the novels. Everyone else in the novels has a game equivalent at this point...
This also fits things like the Teenager Break-In theory you see occasionally for DCI, or why despite the event seemingly occuring during the week William is working it isn't discovered til later (Teenagers and college students going missing at night when sneaking off isn't going to immediately raise a red flag signaling at Freddys...also in the book Carltons dad dismisses him vanishing).
Also Afton in the books at this point is working as a night guard under a fake name just like in the first week the FNAF 2 location is open when the DCI happened.
In the game universe, they all still existed(Just as Henry and Charlie and Afton and Elizabeth all do), they all still broke in, except without Charlie immediately with them to knock out Willy, she couldn't "SAVE THEM" in time.
(Also zero clue who is who other than basically everyone who believes in this theory thinks Marla is Mangle. For example, Carlton could be Freddy because of being trapped in a Freddy suit or Chica because out of the main 3 because the other two main friends have Freddy and Bonnie as their favourites, or Balloon Boy because he likes to play pranks, or JJ because he hides under a table and JJ does and also a ton of people think there's a 6th victim because 6 blood stains and the last body is hiding under the table. That's the worst case. Jessica mostly fits Toy Chica, but Bonnie is her childhood favourite. Jason could be Toy Freddy because he's a gamer, or he could be BB or JJ because he's the youngest, or he could be Mangle's Male Head forever attached to his older sister. Et Cetera.)
2:54 The reason why they have different numbered fingers is because Henry lost a finger from Fredbear biting off his finger so he designed the Fredbear suit to have only 4 fingers so that he can properly wear him. So there were two bites of 83 meaning CC getting bit was the bite of 83, the sequel
You know, I feel like you could be joking by saying he has 4 fingers, but i knew someone was gonna say that
@@TerminalError yea it was satire
Dude, your LEFT-E Theory makes so much sense! There are design elements that are downright cruel (the continuous controlled shock wand) that wouldn't make sense if Henry originally built it, especially knowing that my Poor Baby Charlie was possessing it. If he's as good as a father as most of the fandom thinks he is, then he wouldn't have built something to further hurt his daughter, even if it was a risk that she'd escape the giant pizza oven in FNAF 6. Actually, if Charlie really is as aware and intelligent as the games make her out to be and Henry says she is, once she heard her father's voice and saw for herself that William was Trapped and Doomed, she would've happily burned because her Missions to Save and Free all of the murdered children's spirits would be accomplished with her Daddy and Michael's help AND THE MONSTER WHO WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO MURDER HER SO PAINFULLY WOULD BE GONE AT LAST. William is a serial child killer who feels no remorse for his actions. Sister Location showed us that William gave absolutely no fucks about hurting the animatronics and his go-to torture method was Controlled Shocks. The Scooper was saved for egregious misbehavior (like forming into Ennard and getting caught by technicians/himself???) and for his twisted Remnant experiments. Even knowing that Elizabeth was possessing Baby didn't stop him from zapping her all the time. Hell, knowing William, he would see zapping Baby as punishing Elizabeth for not listening to him in the first place! Regardless of who built him, LEFT-E was still an animatronic that needed to be Burned. Henry may have seen it on surviving surveillance footage, sent someone out to go find him, and when inspecting it for authenticity, he would've found The Puppet and if he kept The Security Bracelet as a memento/reminder of his biggest failure that he kept on him, once he turned it on, the bracelet would've gone nuts, leading to him finding The Puppet inside and when seeing the tear streaks, immediately realizing that Charlie was in there. Thus, he made LEFT-E as cheap as possible for the catalogue and made sure it would get to The Alley by keeping The Bracelet on. It makes sense! And it would get rid of a lot of the Bad Father allegations for Henry. Well, Game Henry, anyways. Book Henry's a lost cause!
Henry himself said he made Lefti so the finger theory is wrong in this certain case. All the rockstars animatronic have the same jaw metal thing as the mediocre melodies which are also from Henry.
And Fredbear is known to have that at the very least in 1983 as seen in FNaF 4.
@@at_witts_end3470shouldn’t it be at most?
He did not say that. It was assumed, but never directly stated.
Who built them??? The answer is simple *ahem* .... MYYYY MOMMMM *muscle man scream *
I walked right into that one didn't i
@ do you know who ELSE walked right into that?.😏
Edwin never finished working on Chica. So Henry would've had to have done most of the animatronic work.
If William created Lefty, then what if Shadow Freddy in Follow Me actually IS Lefty, and the reason the animatronics follow her is because they sense the Puppet is inside the Lefty suit.
scott cawthon who never thought of any of this:
To be honest, I don't think we should trust animatronic designs more than narrative consistency when figuring out who built which animatronics. For example, it doesn't make sense that a springlock suit like Fredbear has four fingers if it was meant to be worn by people. So why does it have only four fingers? That's because Golden Freddy was introduced in FNAF 1, but Scott Cawthon only came up with the idea of springlock suits in FNAF 3, and turned Fredbear into one retroactively.
...Unless Golden Freddy is NOT a springlock suit at all. Maybe he's a different animatronic from Fredbear altogether, and we can differentiate the two by their bowties and hats. I don't find anything immediately wrong with such an interpretation, but it certainly would affect a lot of theories. There's no way BiteVictim could haunt Golden Freddy if that's the case.
I mean, it's either that or we accept that Scott has faced many limitations while working on a story that he made up along the way.
So anyway, I don't think Lefty and the Rockstars having five fingers means that William built them. The Rockstars are clearly in good condition, it's hard to believe that they were built thirty years prior to Pizzeria Simulator. It's much more likely that Henry built them in preparation for his ultimate plan. Same thing for Lefty.
I really wanna add to this narrative, what's cool is that you can make the Glamrocks work while strengthening Edwin's character.
They're a culmination of the older animatronic design philosophies. You have the Mimic-inspired Endos, the modularity of the Funtimes, and the sleek appearance of the Toys.
In the Tales stories, Edwin is still working for Fazbear, but is in more of an honorary position during the time of the Pizzaplex. Someone with such a long, storied career, who was influenced by the founders, would likely inspire the members of the engineering teams, right? Also fits nicely with the idea that the more Fazbear tries to forge into the future, it's always haunted by the past.
I honestly kinda love the idea that William and Henry are extremely fixated on consistent design traits and Edwin is more experimental. It kinda lines up with their stories too? Fredbear's was (given the name at least) a family business that got absorbed into a larger franchise, so Henry and William would have more experience with what they specialize in and their particular ways, while Edwin is working by commission, so when he does his own work it's weird and far less in line with anything else, just because he can.
ALSO, WILLIAM designing Lefty makes *so* much sense. The idea that Henry basically springlocks his own daughter, lures and captures her against her will, and seemingly has zero remorse for it and doesn't even acknowledge it, is hard to swallow with him being treated as a good guy voice of reason type. The only "moral" justification is if she's just too far gone mentally to come willingly, and still doesn't explain why she or Lefty's built-in AI attacks you. LEFTE is much more in line with the things William would design, and is included alongside blueprints that show *other things* Afton's company made and worked with, like the Scooper. The only thing there Henry most likely made is the travelling lure thing that is probably what you use in that game to do audio lures.
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I think the Puppet was in FNAF 3, but I'd also like to point out we don't know when Lefty completed their task.
Considering lefty was in the fire I dont think they ever did complete the task.
Funtimes,BB, Funtime foxy, helpy,springBonnie also probably Jackie/ William afton
Fredbear, the classic, the rockstars, carine/lefty, the puppet/henry
The costumes and some of Chica/edwin
If you have seen that one channel with the "charlies death" short movie, it makes sense that henry has no part in making it?
Fredbear's Family Diner - Part 11 - "The Death of Charlotte Emily" then makes sense
But if charli is alive then i have no idea.
I haven't seen it but I'll have to look into it
5"50 Hmm, and Charlie in the Trilogy is also put into Freddy's Version where she stays for the rest of her life
I think both fruit punch and lemonade clowns belong to Afton rather than Henry or Edwin
Not just the clown looks,
but the minigame where they both scare the children, and knowing kids, they would run away possibly making it easier for the funtimes to lure and misdirect. Thinking of it, the kid screams and runs away from the clown, only to be manipulated by the animatronics until they get too close then they are captured.
That's a good point. I didn't even think of those minigames. I wasn't even sure scaring was what they were doing to be honest. The reason I said Edwin tho was cause the fingers being both henrys design and a soft material while the rest of the animatronic is a hard material made me think Edwin was smart enough to take the hard outer shell plastic from Williams design, add the soft touch from henrys design, and add in his love for making everyday objects robots (in this case and punch bowl) and you'd get something like the clowns
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Holy fuck you cooked so hard this is insane. Henry definitely was involved in the puppet tho come on😸😭.
Thank you! And I do see a major flaw in my puppet idea now. Just thought puppet fit the "strange and skinny" animatronic trend Edwin has with the Mimic and daycare attendant.
Love the suit, looks great on you!
So first off, I love the idea of William building Lefty. It makes perfect sense given how its explained in the blueprints. I always thought it looked like a cruel thing for Henry to put Charlie through, but if Afton does it things like the repeated controlled shocks in the "soothing method" make way more sense. Im adopting that into my current headcanon. Id be interested to see how they fit in the timeline if thats the case. seeing as people seemingly has assumed Henry had made the rockstars for Pizza Sim.
Second thing, Im not convinced that the Books are in the games yet. Its certainly plausible, but Id rather theyre parallels rather than the canon games continuity. Edwin feels like hes taking over Henrys niech. Especially the way you tell it. Hennery was always the visionary genius roboticist of the early days of Freddys. it seems like a waist to make Edwin this big character when Henry has never been properly explored. We know next to nothing about him in the games. So Im hoping that Henry made the Mimic, and by extension sun and moon. You did make a compelling case for Edwin making some of them tho, so Ill keep an open mind.
Lastly, I dont know if I buy the toys being made by William. the FNAF 2 phone calls imply that he was working as a night guard before fnaf 2, which would be odd if he was also the guy building the animatronics. Tho the toy designs do share some superficial qualitys with the FunTimes. I'm open to it, but the night guard thing would need to be considered to make it work. ( If Afton builds Lefty the idea he made the puppet too is compelling. seeing how he knew how to lure it. Just to throw it out there)
Anyway, good video
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I enjoy the premise of the video but the design language of each creator can change over the time, I think it should be supporting evidence and each animatronic/group should be tackled on a case by case basis.
I can agree with that. I definitely feel a few might have been wrong and looking at other evidence would point to the correct creator.
My theory golden Freddy is a hallucination based off of the trauma that Michael experienced from the bite of 83 and because he is the night guard in the first 3 games that's why golden Freddy only has four fingers
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Does this mean that the mimic is Edwin’s number two greatest creation
behind number one crate???
Because Golden Freddy can't be physical He Teleports turns into a head And his design changes
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Dr. Phinias made the stitch wraith I thought
Isn't more simple to the withereds just be redsigns from the classics because scott wanted to make the classics scarier
Henry made the concept and edwin provided the technology
Hard disagree on Edwin making rhe classics. The story implied edwins animatronics all are mascot costumes turned into animatronic suits, as seen in Ruin. Seeing as Freddys opens in 1983, and The Mimic mostly is set in 1978, itd make sense if Edwin didnt create the classics/unwithered, but rather the Balloon Circus animatronics.
Id disagree since the ones Mascots we see in ruin aren't animatronics, they're just the costumes. He was turning those Mascots into animatronics like what we see in fnaf 1. The balloon and circus could make sense later in the timeline but not in upgrading a Mascots suit in my opinion due to them being made of harder materials. He'd have to create a whole outer casing with the animatronic on his small budget.
@TerminalError I mean, why would they? Animatronics irl don't have visible joints and look more like the circus mascots than anything in FNaF sometimes. I think it's very possible they repurposed those mascots into animatronic characters. Namely because there's an entire story where Edwin is doing just that. Turning them into Springlock suits, specifically, actually.
Yes and in that story he's working on chica, which either implies he works on all the classics, or he, for some reason, only works on Chica. The odds of some of the other 17 animatronics being the original Freddy, foxy, and Bonnie are likely considering we don't yet know of 17 other animatronics from this time period.
@TerminalError orrr...chica is older than Freddy Fazbear's Pizza and chica comes from fall fest (just like Mr Hippo, Happy Frog, Monty, etc.) meaning that the chica in the story is a costume worn at fall fest, turned into an animatronic.
The animatronics he made were the mascot costumes from Ruin but with a Springlock endoskeleton inside basically. I don't think turning a mascot suit into an animatronic character would involve turning it into a completely different type of animatronic suit/shell. It'd probably just be putting an Endo in the suit.
Edwin even calls the characters "circus like" in the story, making it pretty clear these are characters for fall fest.
Everything we've seen of SotM has the animatronics look like the mascot suits from Ruin. This is very clearly to show that Edwin DIDNT make the unwithered.
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I disagree with William making rockstars because he was scraptrap at the time and with William making the puppet.
William would have made the rockstars before getting springlocked. That's why he wouldn't be able to extract the puppet.
Edwin doesn't exist in the games and attributing any part of Henry's work to him is stealing a great part of what makes Henry himself
Also Egg Baby is 100% Henry's design because it's also a data archive for Henry's plans
Nah, Edwin exists. He just made Trash and the gang, the mimic, and turned mascot suits into animatronics. He probably made the OG versions of Mr Hippo, Happy Frog, Orville, Pigpatch, Monty, and Roxy though.
Also, Daycare Attendant is 100% in SotM, so him too.
@at_witts_end3470 nah bro he only exists in the books and is a Henry stand-in
@@JackieJKENVtuber who's factory is in SotM then?
@at_witts_end3470 mine
@@JackieJKENVtuber last I recall, Henry didn't own a massive factory where he turned mascot suits into animatronic characters. I don't recall Henry being bought out by Fazbear Entertainment in the 70s to develop animatronics based on the success of Mr Hugs. I don't recall Henry taking a preexisting chick mascot suit and turning it into a chica animatronic
In fact, the books imply Edwin and Henry are different dudes. The Mimic is sent to the FFPS location in the books, but that location wouldn't exist without Henry. And Edwin is alive post FNaF 6 in The Storyteller. Also, William Afton is mentioned in Pressure (which gives us the origin to the Burntrap suit)
sorry, lefty and the rockstars have this weird quirk where their jaws are not on a hinge, like all of william's OTHER animatronics, they are on a up/down piston thing, which people have theorized that it is a quirk with henry's designs, soooo... this disproves your theory about the rockstars made by william.
Why do we think Edwin is in the games timeline
SotM is set in his factory from the books. Though I will disagree with his take on Edwin creating the classics. He created the Balloon Circus gang, if anything
@@at_witts_end3470I thought it was toy factory in the game
@@Spazy912 nope. There's cutouts and mascot costumes everywhere apparently. It's a place for fall fest/Fazbear Entertainment stuff. Which is 1:1 with Edwin's factory from the books. They even have No 1 Crate apparently, in reference to how Edwin was hired by FE after making an autonomous vacuum cleaner Robot (Mr Hugs).
SOTM does make me think Edwin is coming to the games. I also don't think any of the tales books contradict anything we know from the games and, in fact, enhances what we know about them.
OK but what about Bon Bon, Bonnet, Minireenas, the Freddles, and Plushtrap none of them have five fingers
Plushtrap does have five but you have a point with the others.
Bon bon, bonnet, and that Freddles all have 3 fingers (bon bon and bonnet kind of but not really, they have paw pad things but there's 3) and the minirinas don't have any. I'd say that bon bon, bonnet, and the Freddles even tho they don't have the same amount of fingers, they're clearly made to be with the main animatronic for them (funtime and nightmare freddy) I could see the minirinas being made by who made one of the puppets tho
@TerminalError are you sure about that cause most images of Plushtrap show him with only four fingers I even googled the question how many fingers does Plushtrap have to make sure and Five Nights at Freddy's wiki says he has four fingers and three toes
I just looked it up myself and I found the issue. We're both right about the number of fingers (technically you're more right however for this discussion). Fnaf 4, ucn, and fnaf ar give plushtrap and his variants 4 fingers but help wanted and a cardboard cutout in security breach show him with 5. Don't know why it's different but I assumed it was the same. So during the Scott era of the games when he was originally designed by Scott, he had 4 fingers.
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