Thank God for the folks behind FF13fix, as always modders time and time again prove themselves one of the most important figures in the gaming industry.
I love this game so much. One of my fav games from the PS3/360 era, and what a soundtrack! I only played the first one though. Definitely need to get around to the sequels.
I've been feeling really nostalgic about the XIII trilogy lately. I don't have a Xbox One or Series console so will pick them up on Steam now while they are on sale and try out various mods and fan fixes. Seems like with enough work it can be just as good or even better in some areas than the Xbox Series version. Pretty much all the other Final Fantasy games have gotten ports or remasters, really hope they do the same for XIII trilogy sometime this gen as Lightning Returns will be a decade old next year.
I don't think they'll remaster it because it didn't age as bad as the previous ones. It's also a very divisive title, they probably don't want to bring it up again.
@@radicalcentrist4990 Divisive, sure, but in the end they were both critially and commerically a success. All three titles were a success even after the divisive release of FF13. Also never underestimate a company's willingness to resell the same game with minimal changes and effort to make profit.
@@radicalcentrist4990 FF8 was also divisive and sold well just like FF13 and they remasterd that one so I honestly don't think thats the issue with them remastering FF13. Im honestly not sure why they haven't yet but replaying FF13 and this game still looks amazing! so maybe thats why they haven't.
if you play with a controller, be careful. they stopped working for me with no fix, no matter what steam settings i set. still hoping someone finds a fix i didnt come across
I've finished FFXIII on GamePass like 4 weeks ago with no mods and I had a blast with no problems at all (I have a low tier gaming laptop). Loved the gameplay and the music! What an amazing soundtrack.
The microsoft store version of the game is superior. It just runs fine without any need to mess with files. Not sure why they havent updated the steam version to that one. I always recommend ppl on pc buy it through microsoft. Annoying yes but the games fine there
You my man are the gift that keeps on giving. I started watching your videos just a few days ago when I was looking for some Final Fantasy port-related content surrounding the "Lightning Series" and so happened to stumble upon your port video for FF-X/X2 - I was hooked. I have since watched your videos for the ports of FF-VI, VIII, IV & I respectively, and now we're here full circle! Huge respect for compiling as much info as possible across multiple sources; you've certainly earned my sub
I just got the PS3 version and yeah, it looks really good. Especially compared to other PS3 games like DA Origin. I have a pretty good oled TV and with a little tweaking of the screen settings it really looks like a ps4 game.
Thank you always for comprehensive look on versions. I have lot of nostalgia for for FF13 (and 00s Japanese games), something so mysterious about them back in no-Internet era (at least for us Indians). Used to download artwork, wallpapers, watch AMVs/GMVs, knowing I'll never be able to play them (since we weren't rich to get a PS3/360 back then). While it's all behind me, I still get pangs of nostalgia sometime around the whole mystique feel of 00s Japanese games.
I`m totally with you, I`m from Ukraine and in that time, I had no consoles, only PC, and it wasnt so powerfull, the only thing that was available for me is a tv with a satellite, so I was able to watch some worldwide gaming shows, where I could see gameplay videos and trailers, also there was some random discs with trailers from game journals, or recorded by friends etc. and also the FF The Spirits Within movie on the VCD! which was awesome - such a vibe) that was a crazy time, but still so good memories, it's ridiculous how FF made that time so special, even though I wasnt able to play myself at that time)
Omg I just started playing FF13 on my series x 2 days ago via the 360 disc. Didn't finish it back in the day and forgot everything ( interntional ver.)Am quite excited for this journey. So far it holds up well and looks great even in 2022!
@@CORNAdonis Remasters would be appreciated as FF13 is 1728p 30 fps on Series X, and Lightning Returns have troubles maintaining 60 fps at 4K, forcing us to play at 720p to have a locked 60 fps. Not to mention PS5 players can’t play them lol.
@@CORNAdonis Unless someone put pressure on you, for some weird reason, you're not forced to buy any remaster and remake. These games could really benefit from improvements. I would get these personally, as I really like FF13 and would live for it to be released from its 360 visuals
@@ThibautMahringer Square Enix has already lost big money, they’re not doing anymore remakes or remasters especially for a game that was hated when it came out
I mean the only reason it's on modern Xbox's is the compatibility to the Xbox 360 version which were upgraded by the backwards compatible team themselves.
One MAJOR issue with 13-2 and lightning returns on series consoles that wasn't addressed, is that using fps boost causes dialog to mismatch the lip flaps in real time cut scenes. This can be confirmed by watching any of the series x footage on youtube. I found it really jarring and switched to the default 30 fps. One could play at 60 fps and switch before cut scenes, but as a new player that wasn't really feasible. But overall 13 and 13-2 looked gorgeous on xbox series x even at 30 fps and are plug and play. As for lightning returns i think PC is the best version.
I played the trilogy on pc with QoL mods. I am thankful I did because it cut back a lot of unnecessary slog & grind, fixed crashes, added 4k ai upscaled textures. It looked beautiful! --played beautifully!
This is perfect! I was debating on buying the trilogy since they're on sale for PC or sticking to the console ports. Great vid as always! Looking forward to the next one.
@@FlameRat_YehLon for sure! i ended up only buying XIII-1 for the dual voice option. so far I haven't had any major issues after applying the mods and adjusting settings.
Well... They (to me at least) finally finished making the engine by the time Lightning Returns launched, only to be scraped completely when the next game (FF15) come out. And 15 was like yet another glorified tech demo because they kinda failed to make the world feel big. Maybe 16 would be better? Or maybe it's scaled back because they weren't able to make open world a good enough experience (as they even dropped the term "open world" despite it sounded like the game would actually be bigger than 15)?
@@lightbetweendarkness6571 Well, you can say that FF15 isn't one either (for you really only get 1 larger than normal map that still isn't that large to begin with). With "4 large areas to explore" I doubt FF16 would have a smaller world than FF15, and my guess is that Yoshida simply doesn't consider it open world enough to suffice such descripion.
Would be cool to have the trilogy collection for PS4 5 and Switch especially for people like me who didn't get to try them. Square doesn't wanna touch anything 13 now because of so many toxic people constantly shidin on the series, they figured why even rerelease them if no one wants them.
Apart from being lukewarm on the first game I’ve always liked the FF13 series, some of my favourite FF music is in these games. It’s kinda funny that Sony is keeping a stranglehold on the newer FF games, yet Xbox is one of the best platforms to play the FF13 series.
I really appreciate all the hard work you put into making these videos, thank you! I've been enjoying the pixel remaster comparisons over the last few days. And to those looking to play XIII-2, just in case the video did not make it crystal clear, I cannot stress enough how buggy the Steam version is. As a former XIII-2 speedrunner, let me tell you that I have lost a heartbreaking number of potential PBs to my game crashing. Also, as the Steam port is based on the Xbox 360 version, it shares some of its peculiarities. Two examples that come to mind: there's a group of enemies in Academia 400AF that spawn in the PS3 version, but not the Xbox/Steam version, and when fighting the Pacos twins in Academia 500AF, the two versions auto-target a different twin at the start of the battle. And one tiny clarification about the Unseen Intruder track: In the NA versions/English audio, the track is instrumental, whereas in the Japanese audio versions the lyrics are in English.
When XIII-2 was brought over to Xbox One back compat in late 2018, Microsoft relisted the Assassin's Creed & Mass Effect crossover DLCs, possibly by accident if it wasn't Square or Microsoft renewing the licenses with EA & Ubisoft with Square for them. So, on Xbox, you CAN buy them new if you want them like I did.
@@Scsigs yea, I'd buy the Mass effect Ones if I could. Mostly for Noel because while his shirt is good, his Potato sack pants from the 90s Always irked me.
6:53 It's not piracy at all If its possible to add back missing content to the PC version, that makes it the best option to play compared to all platforms ( it should apply the same with the Songs Restorations from the Yakuza Games on PC, since I heard the Openings of each game had a Vocal Theme that were replaced with a generic theme from the games )
I own all on ps3 but never played them yet. Should i buy all of them for xbox360 (physical collector) to play on the xbox one x or save money and ps3 is good enough?? Thanks for your opinion
PC version with the fixes mod AND reshade really lets this games color SHINE folks. Give it a try if you have a halfway decent PC. It's so beautiful at a high FPS and amazing colors.
Mechanic wise XIII-2 was a better XIII and LR was its own thing and is still ahead of time nowadays. But story wise they are really one single story that any part of it can't be missed, so I personally wouldn't rank them by their stories.
I originally finished the trilogy via the PS3 versions. When I found out about the Xbox Enhanced patches, I decided to collect the physical 360 versions as well. If I do another playthrough, I may consider playing on Xbox Series X. I still have my PS3 saves, so I may revisit there first for end game content.
@@aegisreflector1239 so i updated my proton QT to the lasted version 7.37 and it works much better than it did. It is playable whereas before it was unbearable. So now it's some minor studders here and there but at least you can run, jump, battle without much problems
I'm really thankfull for the modders comunity on PC, I use in almost every game and I just started playing the XIII on PC and with some problems (the eyebrow and stuttering issue), but with less than an hour installing mods I was able to play the game on ultrawide 1440p at 144fps and a plus for the texture mod.
I just got a steam deck so I finally can replay these without having to drag the ps3 out of storage... Ive been enjoying myself so far. This game is a lot more beautiful than I remember... or could be the PC port tweaking for good graphics. It's been fun and I am trying to speed run it without knowing what lol.
Just beat ff13 finally after years of never beating it, didnt even think about getting mods for smoother experience. I hadnt even noticed i had no enemy info! Just thought that screen was empty other than resistances. Havent done the other 2 games, but in ffxiii-1 only other issue id see is Lightning hair flickering and fps drops top stages crystallarium + some battles
Man watching this makes me wanna go back & play these FF games. I actually loved FFXIII & got the Platinum Trophy for it, never really got a chance to play FFXIII-2 & FFXIII Lightning Returns. Wish SONY would add these titles to the new PS+ or even do a remaster for the PS4 or PS5.
I bought the trilogy on PS3 when it first released and bought the soundtracks for all three games. Don't care for the higher resolutions beyond 1080p but I enjoyed each of these games despite the critics. Hopefully one day they will be remastered for the PS5 but I can enjoy the PS3 versions just fine as they are.
These ports are 100% legit with the FF13fix. Honestly can't believe how well they run. Constant 60fps and almost no input lag if you turn on Low Latency mode in the Nvidia control panel(which to me is the biggest flaw on XB1/XSX). This is on a Ryzen 5 with a GTX 970 BTW. So if you can't get a locked 60 on a 3060 I'm pretty sure you're doing something wrong.
Wait. Why should you keep your PC playthrough under 2 hours? Is this a crash issue? Also, I think in this unique case you should do a follow up video discussing PS3 emulation for these games. Just a thought.
Wow, Squenix really went the extra mile with Xbox Backwards Compatibility versions! What is astonishing me the most is the fact, they put in the effort to exchange the compressed 360 cutscenes with highres render videos! Wished that was the case for Metal Gear Rising as well: cutscenes on Series X still are extremely low-res compared to PS3 version (PS3 games shipped on Blu-ray while 360 still had a DVD drive)
This was one game that just didn't feel like it belong ps3 and 360. The visuals are so stunning, I would compare it to final fanatsy 7, with or without mods.
I am a lucky owner of XIII and XIII-2 chinese versions. I play on PC using steam but Microsoft Store version is better and it is the best version IMO but i already played hundreds of hours on steam so i won`t change now. Also, from my experience and friends reports, all three games runs better on weaker PCs (with the hardware that was intended to play) than modern hardwares, one of my friends couldn`t play the game using a ryzen 5 and a Rx580 because the frames were dropping too much and the games were closing out of nowhere.
@@RodniDemental The XIII trilogy runs terribly on PC, many people reported framerate issues, game crashes and it may be some random tought but it seems that modern hardware struggles to run the game IDK why. MIcrosoft store runs smooth and has less framerate issues specially when we talk about XIII-2 that runs at 25fps using a Ryzen 5 and a RX580, but the microsoft store version runs at least at 50fps but stays at 60 most of the time
@@MarcosBay_ Cool. I have a crappy laptop from a couple years ago that will hopefully work, I don't care about specs i just want to play game for some achievements again and it says microsoft store version has it's own achievement list on xbox live.
Too bad SE does not like making too much $$$ with the Series X treatment on all 3 games with all dlc and package it as a remaster, and they could sell it on all systems for $70.
It's been 12 years, they really need to remaster this game and address all the issues. Playstation players can only play this if they happen to have a PS3 lying around, so that's another reason to re-release it.
@@DeadPhoenix86DP that's why I love the backward compatibility on Xbox, you don't need to wait for remasters and the results are stunning and sometimes better than official remasters
@@femto8402 True. It looks amazing on the Xbox One X and Series X. I already 100% the game back when it came out in 2010. But have replayed it again in 2018 when they made available on the Xbox One.
I really do wish that SQEX would Remaster these titles for the current hardware and PC. While the game has aged pretty well, you can definitely tell these are PS3 games.
The funny thing is the first FF XIII was released with no UI to change any graphics. From what I heard, it was about the only major change Square ever did with the release. The pc release of Nier: Automata was similar. The steam version was released buggy that the fans fixed. Much later a version for the Microsft store was released in a better state. The difference being, fans of Nier: Automata complained enough, I believe via review bombing, to get the steam version updated. I am not sure why it never happened here. My best speculation is less fan backlash. Ff XIII had more time between releases and more people liked Nier: Automata, or less people criticized it online. I never really played any of them, so I am unsure how they run.
I started playing these games after Lightning Returns was about 2-3 years past release date. I didn’t have a PS3 but my brother gave me his 360, so I bought the games for that. So glad I did! Even though they stand out like a sore thumb on my FF shelf, at least I can play them on my Xbox One S or Series X and know it’s backwards compatible AND the best console version.
The hate is unfounded. XIII has its problems, like the confusing writing, but it's not as bad as people made it out to be. I really enjoyed XIII-2 and Lighting Returns. Especially LR which I think is one of the best adventure games I ever played. I have them all on PS3 but I don't have their DLC unfortunately.
If you play it on old consoles, ps3 port is really a lot better from the xbox one. The frame drop issues were not really a big deal and visually it is way better from what Xbox provided.
BTW, accidently this video came out again while I was working today. Audio on PC better from console version is a joke. I literally have it both on PC and PS3 and sometimes I want to turn on the PS3 just because of the audio (ESPECIALLY DURING GAMEPLAY). I am with full Yamaha audio system and, trust me, PS3 have one of the best audio decoders out there (better from ps4, what a shame). Even with the current mod to replace cutscene audio with the ps3 files, still works better on ps3.
I am a huge Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy fan. I have beaten Final Fantasy XIII twice on PS3 and once on Steam. I have also beaten Final Fantasy XIII-2 twice for PS3 and once on Steam. I have gotten to Chapter 11 in Final Fantasy XIII on the Xbox Series X. I am currently playing Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII on Steam.
ok, wtf were they doing with the xbox version that casued the 576 resulution to look so amazing??? I played it on a 40" TV. Even when I tried replaying it 5 years ago I still thought it looked amazing. Just got the game for pc last week and playing an my steam deck. still think the game looks great but I thought it was due to the tiny screen...
If the files are included in the game files, it's not piracy, it's a mod. If the mods had to attain the files elsewhere, from a version you don't own yourself, THEN it's piracy. Unlocking dummied out content is legal regardless of whether the game maker decided to charge a fee to unlock it themselves or not. If it wasn't, mods that restored content the developer NEVER charged for wouldn't be legal. Heck, that would make sharing passwords for old NES games illegal theft. So, I guess what I'm saying is it's legality is dependent on the nature of how the content's restored.
Wait... The 13 trilogy had Simplified Chinese? I kinda remember the PC version as only having Simplified Chinese through the use of fan translation mods, and that's even on top of the Asian language unlock patch. And like I don't think Square Enix bothered with putting Simplified Chinese in their games until FF14 was to be launched in mainland China. 13 was like, not much attention to detail on the Traditional Chinese translation really, so I doubt there was actually an official Simplified Chinese on top of that, unless I remembered wrong. (FF14 on the other hand, probably got the highest quality Chinese translation among all games.)
Such a damn pity that XIII doesn't have the option of Japanese voices on Xbox (except Lightning Returns) and, as far as I know, you can't even patch the game in emulation. It is basically a proper remaster.
Unfortunately my Steam Region is Asia my FFXIII copy doesnt have dual audio with only english subtitles. The Audio is low bitrate. I have to find a copy with Dual Audio and mix it in to my FF13's Steam Folder.
Ohh this explain why xiii on my pc was more stable than my xbox one, i just used lower setting cause its a shitfy dell laptop 😂 but it does have very constant 30 fps in game so im not complaining with the lower rez anyway
As nice as 13 is on PC with mods, I could not get over the audio quality issues. Even with mods installed to "fix" the sound/music it still just doesnt feel nice and I had many issues with voices being too quiet and cutscenes being too quiet. With how important the music and sound is in this game, im looking to play the ps3 version next
Crazy to think that a whole FF trilogy is available on XBOX Series and not on PS5. I kinda wish they'd re-release them on PS5 and Switch.
they did.
@@Hitokiiry 13 is neither available on Switch or PS5 (or PS4 for that matter) in any form
@@ChampionRevilo Blame Sony for not supporting Backwards compatibility
Thank God for the folks behind FF13fix, as always modders time and time again prove themselves one of the most important figures in the gaming industry.
They gotta fix XIII-2 for PC. It crashes all the time
@@felipecoelho7337 fr, I tried the fix on xiii-2 to remove frame rate cap but it doesnt work
@@felipecoelho7337 Ive got thousands of hours in that game on pc and ive never crashed once
Or you can just boot it up on a ps3, its still incredible on there and runs perfect
Problem is, I think developers now rely on those honest moders who are working for free, instead of just doing their job : doing a good port.
I love this game so much. One of my fav games from the PS3/360 era, and what a soundtrack! I only played the first one though. Definitely need to get around to the sequels.
Uff let me tell you, XIII-2 is a masterpiece. Caius Ballad best character in tze trilogy.
Me too tbh
it's one of the worst Final Fantasy mainline games, but still playable.
I've been feeling really nostalgic about the XIII trilogy lately. I don't have a Xbox One or Series console so will pick them up on Steam now while they are on sale and try out various mods and fan fixes. Seems like with enough work it can be just as good or even better in some areas than the Xbox Series version. Pretty much all the other Final Fantasy games have gotten ports or remasters, really hope they do the same for XIII trilogy sometime this gen as Lightning Returns will be a decade old next year.
I don't think they'll remaster it because it didn't age as bad as the previous ones. It's also a very divisive title, they probably don't want to bring it up again.
@@radicalcentrist4990 Divisive, sure, but in the end they were both critially and commerically a success. All three titles were a success even after the divisive release of FF13.
Also never underestimate a company's willingness to resell the same game with minimal changes and effort to make profit.
@@radicalcentrist4990 FF8 was also divisive and sold well just like FF13 and they remasterd that one so I honestly don't think thats the issue with them remastering FF13. Im honestly not sure why they haven't yet but replaying FF13 and this game still looks amazing! so maybe thats why they haven't.
@@joeyisabsb1 exactly that, the game doesn't need to be remastered if it still holds up.
if you play with a controller, be careful. they stopped working for me with no fix, no matter what steam settings i set. still hoping someone finds a fix i didnt come across
I've finished FFXIII on GamePass like 4 weeks ago with no mods and I had a blast with no problems at all (I have a low tier gaming laptop). Loved the gameplay and the music! What an amazing soundtrack.
The microsoft store version of the game is superior. It just runs fine without any need to mess with files. Not sure why they havent updated the steam version to that one. I always recommend ppl on pc buy it through microsoft. Annoying yes but the games fine there
This was the type of comment I was hoping to see
You my man are the gift that keeps on giving. I started watching your videos just a few days ago when I was looking for some Final Fantasy port-related content surrounding the "Lightning Series" and so happened to stumble upon your port video for FF-X/X2 - I was hooked.
I have since watched your videos for the ports of FF-VI, VIII, IV & I respectively, and now we're here full circle!
Huge respect for compiling as much info as possible across multiple sources; you've certainly earned my sub
Played FFXIII all on my PS3 recently and I enjoyed every second of it, was honestly surprised how good it still looked for a PS3 game.
I just got the PS3 version and yeah, it looks really good. Especially compared to other PS3 games like DA Origin. I have a pretty good oled TV and with a little tweaking of the screen settings it really looks like a ps4 game.
Thank you always for comprehensive look on versions.
I have lot of nostalgia for for FF13 (and 00s Japanese games), something so mysterious about them back in no-Internet era (at least for us Indians). Used to download artwork, wallpapers, watch AMVs/GMVs, knowing I'll never be able to play them (since we weren't rich to get a PS3/360 back then).
While it's all behind me, I still get pangs of nostalgia sometime around the whole mystique feel of 00s Japanese games.
I`m totally with you, I`m from Ukraine and in that time, I had no consoles, only PC, and it wasnt so powerfull, the only thing that was available for me is a tv with a satellite, so I was able to watch some worldwide gaming shows, where I could see gameplay videos and trailers, also there was some random discs with trailers from game journals, or recorded by friends etc. and also the FF The Spirits Within movie on the VCD! which was awesome - such a vibe) that was a crazy time, but still so good memories, it's ridiculous how FF made that time so special, even though I wasnt able to play myself at that time)
@@valtron_legendary_defender I can't believe you had the same experience too!
Oh man, this was so good to hear 💜
Fr, they got an special feeling, idrk how to describe it
I booted up 13 on my ps3 before i sold it recently (i regret doing so) and i couldnt believe how GOOD 13 STILL looked today. It blew me away!
Omg I just started playing FF13 on my series x 2 days ago via the 360 disc. Didn't finish it back in the day and forgot everything ( interntional ver.)Am quite excited for this journey. So far it holds up well and looks great even in 2022!
a ffxiii trillogy collection for modern consoles would be great.
Xbox already did this lol
@@CORNAdonis Remasters would be appreciated as FF13 is 1728p 30 fps on Series X, and Lightning Returns have troubles maintaining 60 fps at 4K, forcing us to play at 720p to have a locked 60 fps.
Not to mention PS5 players can’t play them lol.
@@ThibautMahringer why would I want to rebuy this game yet again?
@@CORNAdonis Unless someone put pressure on you, for some weird reason, you're not forced to buy any remaster and remake.
These games could really benefit from improvements. I would get these personally, as I really like FF13 and would live for it to be released from its 360 visuals
@@ThibautMahringer Square Enix has already lost big money, they’re not doing anymore remakes or remasters especially for a game that was hated when it came out
It's so insane there is no real way to play FFXIII on Playstation anymore. That's ass backwards.
I just hope that one day Final Fantasy XIII is available for PS4 or PS5.
I mean the only reason it's on modern Xbox's is the compatibility to the Xbox 360 version which were upgraded by the backwards compatible team themselves.
I hope one day they make a 13 trilogy collection. It'd be perfect on switch or even PS4/5. Superb video as always.
One MAJOR issue with 13-2 and lightning returns on series consoles that wasn't addressed, is that using fps boost causes dialog to mismatch the lip flaps in real time cut scenes. This can be confirmed by watching any of the series x footage on youtube. I found it really jarring and switched to the default 30 fps. One could play at 60 fps and switch before cut scenes, but as a new player that wasn't really feasible. But overall 13 and 13-2 looked gorgeous on xbox series x even at 30 fps and are plug and play. As for lightning returns i think PC is the best version.
It's weird Square-Enix never made a remaster collection for the Final Fantasy XIII trilogy. They can do so and include all DLC for each of the games.
I played the trilogy on pc with QoL mods. I am thankful I did because it cut back a lot of unnecessary slog & grind, fixed crashes, added 4k ai upscaled textures. It looked beautiful! --played beautifully!
This is perfect! I was debating on buying the trilogy since they're on sale for PC or sticking to the console ports. Great vid as always! Looking forward to the next one.
I got both, console versions for playing through it as intended and pc versions to play through it with cheats and just enjoy the story 🤣
I'd say just get whichever version that's cheaper and has your choice of text/voice language.
Pc version of ff13-2 is broken
@@FlameRat_YehLon for sure! i ended up only buying XIII-1 for the dual voice option. so far I haven't had any major issues after applying the mods and adjusting settings.
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 yea I'm gonna skip on 13-2.
also for the graphical engine, we should thank Crystal Tools, they did it remarkably well.
Well... They (to me at least) finally finished making the engine by the time Lightning Returns launched, only to be scraped completely when the next game (FF15) come out. And 15 was like yet another glorified tech demo because they kinda failed to make the world feel big. Maybe 16 would be better? Or maybe it's scaled back because they weren't able to make open world a good enough experience (as they even dropped the term "open world" despite it sounded like the game would actually be bigger than 15)?
@@lightbetweendarkness6571 Well, you can say that FF15 isn't one either (for you really only get 1 larger than normal map that still isn't that large to begin with). With "4 large areas to explore" I doubt FF16 would have a smaller world than FF15, and my guess is that Yoshida simply doesn't consider it open world enough to suffice such descripion.
I love ff13 to death and its awesome i can play this game anywhere i want with the steam deck, a dream i thought would never happen
Insane how I literally just finished replaying LR last night on Xbox 360 and bought the PC port like two days ago and now this video pops up
Very impressive the work you put on your videos
I need final fantasy 13 to be remastered for PS4 or PS5. It is one of my favorite games of all time. Especially with the soundtrack.
Would be cool to have the trilogy collection for PS4 5 and Switch especially for people like me who didn't get to try them. Square doesn't wanna touch anything 13 now because of so many toxic people constantly shidin on the series, they figured why even rerelease them if no one wants them.
@@aegisreflector1239 dang man I hate that. I loved that game so much. I miss it.
@@aegisreflector1239 I would buy a FFXIII collection for Switch in a heartbeat lol
Apart from being lukewarm on the first game I’ve always liked the FF13 series, some of my favourite FF music is in these games. It’s kinda funny that Sony is keeping a stranglehold on the newer FF games, yet Xbox is one of the best platforms to play the FF13 series.
To think on the ps5 as of now, you can play ALL mainline FF games expect 13.
SquareEnix gotta release a Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy Remaster for PS5. I still haven't played 13-2 and LR
You’re now 1 or 3 games away from covering every mainline Final Fantasy. (1 if just XV, or 3 if you also include XI and XIV)
So I need to tell you, that you are the most comparison video making guy I've been watching for months :)
I like it how the way you edit it :D
I really appreciate all the hard work you put into making these videos, thank you! I've been enjoying the pixel remaster comparisons over the last few days.
And to those looking to play XIII-2, just in case the video did not make it crystal clear, I cannot stress enough how buggy the Steam version is. As a former XIII-2 speedrunner, let me tell you that I have lost a heartbreaking number of potential PBs to my game crashing.
Also, as the Steam port is based on the Xbox 360 version, it shares some of its peculiarities. Two examples that come to mind: there's a group of enemies in Academia 400AF that spawn in the PS3 version, but not the Xbox/Steam version, and when fighting the Pacos twins in Academia 500AF, the two versions auto-target a different twin at the start of the battle.
And one tiny clarification about the Unseen Intruder track: In the NA versions/English audio, the track is instrumental, whereas in the Japanese audio versions the lyrics are in English.
Really want them ported to the Switch. Don't have my Xbox 360 anymore.
Hopefully they get a remastered trilogy for next gen for an even more definitive experience
FF13-2 on XSX at 60fps is niiiice.
When XIII-2 was brought over to Xbox One back compat in late 2018, Microsoft relisted the Assassin's Creed & Mass Effect crossover DLCs, possibly by accident if it wasn't Square or Microsoft renewing the licenses with EA & Ubisoft with Square for them. So, on Xbox, you CAN buy them new if you want them like I did.
They're listed but can't be bought though
@@TH-camCensors Huh. They must've fixed that. Always came off as an accidental thing when they added it to back compat. Oh well.
@@Scsigs yea, I'd buy the Mass effect Ones if I could. Mostly for Noel because while his shirt is good, his Potato sack pants from the 90s Always irked me.
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It's not piracy at all
If its possible to add back missing content to the PC version, that makes it the best option to play compared to all platforms
( it should apply the same with the Songs Restorations from the Yakuza Games on PC, since I heard the Openings of each game had a Vocal Theme that were replaced with a generic theme from the games )
Yes, it literally is piracy. It does not matter "if it is only possible that way." You are taking something that is not yours. It is that simple.
I always stick with the PS3 version myself but playing it on Xbox one X was great
I own all on ps3 but never played them yet. Should i buy all of them for xbox360 (physical collector) to play on the xbox one x or save money and ps3 is good enough?? Thanks for your opinion
@@scoped7reaper664 it depends on if you care about resolution or not. It looks nicer on Xbox One/Series X if you have a 4K tv.
Bought the steam versions a week and a half ago to replay them what perfect timing
How much were they?
@@jalalal8056 I think 13 was 6.99 and 13-2 as well as LR where both 7.99
PC version with the fixes mod AND reshade really lets this games color SHINE folks. Give it a try if you have a halfway decent PC. It's so beautiful at a high FPS and amazing colors.
I really hope this series get a remake on PS5
These vids are a godsend. It's hard to find reliable info about this sort of thing
Strange Square won't make remasters of the trilogy for console players.
I love the trilogy. In order I say XIII-2, LR, XIII but nonetheless they're my favorite games
Mechanic wise XIII-2 was a better XIII and LR was its own thing and is still ahead of time nowadays. But story wise they are really one single story that any part of it can't be missed, so I personally wouldn't rank them by their stories.
XIII-2 > XIII > LR
My rating on XIII Trilogy:
XIII > XIII-2 > LR
I originally finished the trilogy via the PS3 versions. When I found out about the Xbox Enhanced patches, I decided to collect the physical 360 versions as well. If I do another playthrough, I may consider playing on Xbox Series X.
I still have my PS3 saves, so I may revisit there first for end game content.
Why sony cant put a remastered version of this game out again, like they do for xii, holly molly in goino mad 😢
Enjoyed the video quite a lot, thanks 💕
Sounds like the best way to go is Steam ff13 with mods, and 13-2 & LR on series x
I wish 13-2 was playable on the steam deck. I tried many times to make it work, no matter what, i couldn't have it work without severe drops
Have you checked if other people have made it work?
@@aegisreflector1239 I've looked around. Bur i must say it really isn't a popular title so people haven't tried really hard at making it work
@@aegisreflector1239 so i updated my proton QT to the lasted version 7.37 and it works much better than it did. It is playable whereas before it was unbearable. So now it's some minor studders here and there but at least you can run, jump, battle without much problems
I'm really thankfull for the modders comunity on PC, I use in almost every game and I just started playing the XIII on PC and with some problems (the eyebrow and stuttering issue), but with less than an hour installing mods I was able to play the game on ultrawide 1440p at 144fps and a plus for the texture mod.
I just got a steam deck so I finally can replay these without having to drag the ps3 out of storage... Ive been enjoying myself so far. This game is a lot more beautiful than I remember... or could be the PC port tweaking for good graphics. It's been fun and I am trying to speed run it without knowing what lol.
So in other words. For consoles... A once made for ps3 game now plays and runs better on an xbox series x or s. News to my ears. Bravo
surprising that these games have never been ported/remastered for PS4/PS5
XIII-2 drove me crazy with the portal travelling ... gave up eventually was too hard to keep track of gates opened/closed
Penguindrum icon 💯
Before watching the video:
FFXIII-2 needs a program/fix called FFix-fps that makes use of all your cores and threads.
Links in the description.
I own all the games on ps3 so I'll probably stick with that. I'm still a fan of the ps3 so it's all good
Just beat ff13 finally after years of never beating it, didnt even think about getting mods for smoother experience.
I hadnt even noticed i had no enemy info! Just thought that screen was empty other than resistances.
Havent done the other 2 games, but in ffxiii-1 only other issue id see is Lightning hair flickering and fps drops top stages crystallarium + some battles
Man watching this makes me wanna go back & play these FF games.
I actually loved FFXIII & got the Platinum Trophy for it, never really got a chance to play FFXIII-2 & FFXIII Lightning Returns.
Wish SONY would add these titles to the new PS+ or even do a remaster for the PS4 or PS5.
I bought the trilogy on PS3 when it first released and bought the soundtracks for all three games. Don't care for the higher resolutions beyond 1080p but I enjoyed each of these games despite the critics. Hopefully one day they will be remastered for the PS5 but I can enjoy the PS3 versions just fine as they are.
Ff13 on steam deck is a dream come true, with the fan fix both ff13 and ff13-2 can run on a stable 40fps with good battery life.
These ports are 100% legit with the FF13fix. Honestly can't believe how well they run. Constant 60fps and almost no input lag if you turn on Low Latency mode in the Nvidia control panel(which to me is the biggest flaw on XB1/XSX).
This is on a Ryzen 5 with a GTX 970 BTW. So if you can't get a locked 60 on a 3060 I'm pretty sure you're doing something wrong.
I’m waiting for the eventual PS5 remaster of 13,13-2 with 4K120.
You can keep Lightning Returns.
Wait. Why should you keep your PC playthrough under 2 hours? Is this a crash issue? Also, I think in this unique case you should do a follow up video discussing PS3 emulation for these games. Just a thought.
Wow, Squenix really went the extra mile with Xbox Backwards Compatibility versions! What is astonishing me the most is the fact, they put in the effort to exchange the compressed 360 cutscenes with highres render videos! Wished that was the case for Metal Gear Rising as well: cutscenes on Series X still are extremely low-res compared to PS3 version (PS3 games shipped on Blu-ray while 360 still had a DVD drive)
My fave FF, thank you!
Will you made a video about the Switch version of Nier Automata ? The port looks really good. :)
9:10 which fan translation? What do you mean?
This was one game that just didn't feel like it belong ps3 and 360. The visuals are so stunning, I would compare it to final fanatsy 7, with or without mods.
I am a lucky owner of XIII and XIII-2 chinese versions. I play on PC using steam but Microsoft Store version is better and it is the best version IMO but i already played hundreds of hours on steam so i won`t change now.
Also, from my experience and friends reports, all three games runs better on weaker PCs (with the hardware that was intended to play) than modern hardwares, one of my friends couldn`t play the game using a ryzen 5 and a Rx580 because the frames were dropping too much and the games were closing out of nowhere.
I am interested in the Microsoft Store version to replay, and I am quite curious as to why you like it better?
@@RodniDemental The XIII trilogy runs terribly on PC, many people reported framerate issues, game crashes and it may be some random tought but it seems that modern hardware struggles to run the game IDK why. MIcrosoft store runs smooth and has less framerate issues specially when we talk about XIII-2 that runs at 25fps using a Ryzen 5 and a RX580, but the microsoft store version runs at least at 50fps but stays at 60 most of the time
@@MarcosBay_ Cool. I have a crappy laptop from a couple years ago that will hopefully work, I don't care about specs i just want to play game for some achievements again and it says microsoft store version has it's own achievement list on xbox live.
The Final Fantasy 13 XIII Series for PS3 and Xbox 360 publishers Developers Square Enix was Released In 2010 to 2014 Square Enix Game
Too bad SE does not like making too much $$$ with the Series X treatment on all 3 games with all dlc and package it as a remaster, and they could sell it on all systems for $70.
have fun getting 13 to work on a PC, mine wouldn't even load and this game has been a nightmare for others to get working
I got it to work just fine through the Xbox app. However the controller disconnects for some reason
It's been 12 years, they really need to remaster this game and address all the issues.
Playstation players can only play this if they happen to have a PS3 lying around, so that's another reason to re-release it.
Yeah its a shame. They could easy do a PS5 and Series S/X collection and make it 4K and 60 fps.
@@DeadPhoenix86DP that's why I love the backward compatibility on Xbox, you don't need to wait for remasters and the results are stunning and sometimes better than official remasters
@@femto8402 True. It looks amazing on the Xbox One X and Series X. I already 100% the game back when it came out in 2010. But have replayed it again in 2018 when they made available on the Xbox One.
@@femto8402 Yeah, Sony is very behind and drag their feet when it comes to backwards compatibility.
I really do wish that SQEX would Remaster these titles for the current hardware and PC. While the game has aged pretty well, you can definitely tell these are PS3 games.
Not on XSX you can't.
FF13-2 looks great
The funny thing is the first FF XIII was released with no UI to change any graphics. From what I heard, it was about the only major change Square ever did with the release.
The pc release of Nier: Automata was similar. The steam version was released buggy that the fans fixed. Much later a version for the Microsft store was released in a better state. The difference being, fans of Nier: Automata complained enough, I believe via review bombing, to get the steam version updated. I am not sure why it never happened here. My best speculation is less fan backlash. Ff XIII had more time between releases and more people liked Nier: Automata, or less people criticized it online. I never really played any of them, so I am unsure how they run.
Gonna be picking this up again for ps3 can’t wait 😊
Thannnk you for the great vid ❤❤❤ gonna get on pc and ps3 all versions
Honestly Xbox is the best way to play 13, yes its my personal biased opinion but i feel the gimmicks were designed for that system
Thanks for this video man.
I started playing these games after Lightning Returns was about 2-3 years past release date. I didn’t have a PS3 but my brother gave me his 360, so I bought the games for that. So glad I did! Even though they stand out like a sore thumb on my FF shelf, at least I can play them on my Xbox One S or Series X and know it’s backwards compatible AND the best console version.
I KNEW it! FFXIII-2 seemed always the BEST FF13 Game on X360 to me years ago
Best game of the trilogy by far as well.
Win win for Xbox gamers at least and literally the last good FF, well new one at least.
Damn. I miss these games. I should go back and play them again. My PS3 crapped out so I had to buy the games again on PC. That FF13 Fix works wonders
The hate is unfounded. XIII has its problems, like the confusing writing, but it's not as bad as people made it out to be. I really enjoyed XIII-2 and Lighting Returns. Especially LR which I think is one of the best adventure games I ever played.
I have them all on PS3 but I don't have their DLC unfortunately.
I hope there will be Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy Remastered soon
Excellent video! Too bad the PC ports for FF13 and FF13-2 suck so much, otherwise I'd have gotten them :(
If you play it on old consoles, ps3 port is really a lot better from the xbox one. The frame drop issues were not really a big deal and visually it is way better from what Xbox provided.
BTW, accidently this video came out again while I was working today. Audio on PC better from console version is a joke. I literally have it both on PC and PS3 and sometimes I want to turn on the PS3 just because of the audio (ESPECIALLY DURING GAMEPLAY). I am with full Yamaha audio system and, trust me, PS3 have one of the best audio decoders out there (better from ps4, what a shame). Even with the current mod to replace cutscene audio with the ps3 files, still works better on ps3.
Hopf’efully we get a trilogy switch ports
On the back of my ps3 versions says 1080p must be a Europe cersion thing
I am a huge Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy fan. I have beaten Final Fantasy XIII twice on PS3 and once on Steam. I have also beaten Final Fantasy XIII-2 twice for PS3 and once on Steam. I have gotten to Chapter 11 in Final Fantasy XIII on the Xbox Series X. I am currently playing Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII on Steam.
ok, wtf were they doing with the xbox version that casued the 576 resulution to look so amazing??? I played it on a 40" TV. Even when I tried replaying it 5 years ago I still thought it looked amazing. Just got the game for pc last week and playing an my steam deck. still think the game looks great but I thought it was due to the tiny screen...
If the files are included in the game files, it's not piracy, it's a mod. If the mods had to attain the files elsewhere, from a version you don't own yourself, THEN it's piracy. Unlocking dummied out content is legal regardless of whether the game maker decided to charge a fee to unlock it themselves or not. If it wasn't, mods that restored content the developer NEVER charged for wouldn't be legal. Heck, that would make sharing passwords for old NES games illegal theft.
So, I guess what I'm saying is it's legality is dependent on the nature of how the content's restored.
Is XMP on in your BIOS for your memory? Looks like your RAM is running at stock settings. You could be getting better performance.
So, will they ever remaster the trilogy for PS5?
Wait... The 13 trilogy had Simplified Chinese? I kinda remember the PC version as only having Simplified Chinese through the use of fan translation mods, and that's even on top of the Asian language unlock patch. And like I don't think Square Enix bothered with putting Simplified Chinese in their games until FF14 was to be launched in mainland China. 13 was like, not much attention to detail on the Traditional Chinese translation really, so I doubt there was actually an official Simplified Chinese on top of that, unless I remembered wrong.
(FF14 on the other hand, probably got the highest quality Chinese translation among all games.)
Personally recommend rpcs3...runs great and no endless patching...obviously full control support....pc button prompts are terrible, even with modding
is the 60fps worth it do you think? also are mods easy to obtain?
Such a damn pity that XIII doesn't have the option of Japanese voices on Xbox (except Lightning Returns) and, as far as I know, you can't even patch the game in emulation. It is basically a proper remaster.
13 on 360 is slightly more stable
me:gets a crash when i defeat the first boss in the beginning of the game
I'm waiting to either : build my new pc so I can play this is 4k or whatever you call it or a switch port if that ever comes.
Unfortunately my Steam Region is Asia my FFXIII copy doesnt have dual audio with only english subtitles. The Audio is low bitrate. I have to find a copy with Dual Audio and mix it in to my FF13's Steam Folder.
Ohh this explain why xiii on my pc was more stable than my xbox one, i just used lower setting cause its a shitfy dell laptop 😂 but it does have very constant 30 fps in game so im not complaining with the lower rez anyway
As nice as 13 is on PC with mods, I could not get over the audio quality issues. Even with mods installed to "fix" the sound/music it still just doesnt feel nice and I had many issues with voices being too quiet and cutscenes being too quiet. With how important the music and sound is in this game, im looking to play the ps3 version next
This trilogy NEEDS a proper remaster on PS5 with some qol updates here and there.