Thank you very much for this mate! Iam refinishing a telecaster myself for the first time right now. And was waiting for your clearcoat Part Like in Hotel coals! Your 3 Part series helped me a huge Part Out! Glad you Tool the time to Show everything! Thank you again!
Glad this video was useful :) I wanted to redo my previous tutorials and do them a bit better, I'm just glad that any tips I've given have been useful to viewers. If you get any questions along the way though, feel free to comment a question and I'll gladly help out :)
And the finalé of the trilogy of videos that were supposed to be one singular video... WITH an added part 3.5 coming next week where I just go over achieving a glossy finish. But for now: Happy Holidays one and all! :)
Very nice work there, watched all the parts of this project. One thing though, the owner should've thrown a set of active pickups on it to make this even more of a mean machine. Well Done Mate!!
Great videos! Really enjoy it and feeling more confident to move with my first build :) One question if you don't mind: - If I have a white colour base, and then paint over it with some other multi colour paints (marble paints like swirls for example), do I need to scuff sand after it dries out with 800 grit paper? Or can I just go clear coat over it without scuff sanding. I'm afraid scuff sanding would transfer colour between the swirls. Thanks upfront!
Thanks! Glad you liked the videos :) And an excellent question! I would've usually said yes to scuffing, BUT having done some swirl experiments I would much rather say that you move onto clears. And in this case, you actually could be pretty generous with your coats. Then instead try to focus on getting those clears even :) Most importantly: the better your prepwork (so your basecoat of white) the better the swirls will go on without problems down the line.
@@IPGuitars thanks a lot man for super quick answer! That's pretty much what I've figured, but had to ask as well for consultation :) It kinda sounds logical to go that direction and avoid scuffing. Thanks for the tips, I'll probably go 4-5 sessions of white before swirls, and then 4-5 of clear :) Should be good enough! Thanks a lot again! Your videos are really straight to the point and some explanations are super clear to follow. When one is able to share knowledge easy as you do, that shows that you're really confident in skills and knowledge you have. Keep going!
Hi man, So after the paint you apply clear coat (is it okay if its just clear paint ? ) then after sanding you apply satin clear coat ? I’m a little confused. Please help.
Apply paint/sealer, then for final coats apply clear coat. In between sessions, scuff sand to prepare for new layers. After final layer, flat sand and polish (if need for polish). Your clear coat is what you want your end result to be, gloss, satin, or matte. In this video I had to do it twice as there was some miscommunication between satin and matte.
@@IPGuitars Awesome. Thanks man. Love your work. Keep it up !
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When using a matte clear coat, does it make any difference if the black paint underneath is matte or glossy? I guess not, or maybe it's just a negligible difference.
I find it odd, regarding the sanding process. You initially scuff sand so the paint has "something to grab onto". Then more and more attention is put into a smoother surface for additional paint and clear coat. What is these last coats grabbing on to ? I am planning a guitar finish with no sanding. Just using a soft cloth and a product called liquid sand paper. I'll see...
Yeah, a bit misleading there. Sorry about that. The idea with scuff sanding is to yes, scuff the surface to give the next layers something to "grab onto" however as you go about scuff sanding your goal is to get to as smooth a surface as possible (e.g. no orange peel texture). You are still using the same grit sandpaper to do this so the "scuffs" are still the same depth that that sandpaper cuts. This is what the final layers are grabbing onto as well. The aim of the smooth finish is after the final coat to be able to flat sand and then begin polishing, working up through the grits. Please do let me know how the liquid sandpaper works out, I am very curious! I suspect that it is just a very coarse polishing compound?
Man, you’ve done something that always was in the back of my mind: you sand it to 1500 (or the scotch brite) and it looks like there was not an even layer of black matte, it looks like there was some stains in the black paint. And I always (I’m in my 4th matte guitar paint) try to eliminate all kind of “stain” (maybe it’s not a stain, is a lack of “matte shining” for a lack of a better word kkk) before I do the matte clear coat. And you simply put the matte coat and the “stain” vanish! It was all gone! I know, I’m a dumb “do and learn all by yourself even if I learn a lot studying several videos”, a kind of “Eddie VH try it doin’ and ruining it before learn it” but your video clear everything. I see it right, ain’t? The clear coat matte “flat” the ilusion of stain in the paint?
I believe I got what you meant yeah :) And honestly, luthiery is pretty much always "learn by doing" with trial-and-error. And I started off just the same by watching TH-cam videos. So not dumb at all, you're doing it just right! :D With guitar building, experimentation is key to learning a technique.
@@IPGuitars Thanks! Now you are my favorite youtube luthier - and I saw a lot of guys from different countries and even here in Brazil, we have a lot of great guys. I even learn luthiery in a personal course with a famous professional here. But in Brazil, almost all luthiers send the guitar to a few great painters to do the job. They are tired of ruined guitars with sprays and all :))) I myself like to try doing it and with spray (I know I can get better results with professional equipment, but I live in an apartment and have 3 years old twins). I will see all your videos. Thanks!
You are far too kind :) But so great to hear that you're learning to do it yourself! Be sure to hit me up with any questions if you get stuck on something! I answer to all the comments I get.
@@IPGuitars And I'm stuck exactly in the part that I mentioned 😂 😂 After the sanding that you do with the Marlon thing, you give the guitar the last clean with your hands (I do the same; I don't use cloths or anything that can put tine elements in the paint) and your guitar looks very stained/spotted. I think before the clear matte coat you don't clean with a wet cloth or something, right? And if there are some spotted places yet it really vanishes after three or four layers of clear coat? In the video, after the process, the overall paint appears to be very OK.
You can use a wet wipe as well, for instance with something like rubbing alcohol and a cloth or even just a damp cloth with just water. You just need to be sure that when you spray your next layer, the surface is completely dry. This would get rid of all the dust left over. Another way of course is compressed air to blow off all the dust left from sanding. If you're experiencing any spotting, that is either low dips in the paint/clear or going through layers of finish. Either way, the sollution is more layers until you can get a flat surface to polish.
Not quite. It very much looks like it though :D it's Mirlon Total, manufactured by Mirka and it is intended for scuff sanding paint and lacquers. If I remember correctly, they have 3 different "grits"
Thank you very much for this mate! Iam refinishing a telecaster myself for the first time right now. And was waiting for your clearcoat Part Like in Hotel coals! Your 3 Part series helped me a huge Part Out! Glad you Tool the time to Show everything! Thank you again!
Glad this video was useful :)
I wanted to redo my previous tutorials and do them a bit better, I'm just glad that any tips I've given have been useful to viewers. If you get any questions along the way though, feel free to comment a question and I'll gladly help out :)
And the finalé of the trilogy of videos that were supposed to be one singular video...
WITH an added part 3.5 coming next week where I just go over achieving a glossy finish.
But for now: Happy Holidays one and all! :)
Your finish sounds really good.
Thanks! :D
professional tutorial , Thanks
Very nice work there, watched all the parts of this project. One thing though, the owner should've thrown a set of active pickups on it to make this even more of a mean machine. Well Done Mate!!
Thank you so much! And I think the active pickups were a "down the line" sort of idea already at this point😁
Great process. Sick
Thanks :)
Great videos! Really enjoy it and feeling more confident to move with my first build :)
One question if you don't mind:
- If I have a white colour base, and then paint over it with some other multi colour paints (marble paints like swirls for example), do I need to scuff sand after it dries out with 800 grit paper? Or can I just go clear coat over it without scuff sanding. I'm afraid scuff sanding would transfer colour between the swirls.
Thanks upfront!
Thanks! Glad you liked the videos :)
And an excellent question! I would've usually said yes to scuffing, BUT having done some swirl experiments I would much rather say that you move onto clears. And in this case, you actually could be pretty generous with your coats. Then instead try to focus on getting those clears even :)
Most importantly: the better your prepwork (so your basecoat of white) the better the swirls will go on without problems down the line.
@@IPGuitars thanks a lot man for super quick answer!
That's pretty much what I've figured, but had to ask as well for consultation :) It kinda sounds logical to go that direction and avoid scuffing. Thanks for the tips, I'll probably go 4-5 sessions of white before swirls, and then 4-5 of clear :) Should be good enough!
Thanks a lot again! Your videos are really straight to the point and some explanations are super clear to follow. When one is able to share knowledge easy as you do, that shows that you're really confident in skills and knowledge you have. Keep going!
No problem, glad to help :) and thank you so much for such kind words
Good brother!!!
Hi man,
So after the paint you apply clear coat (is it okay if its just clear paint ? ) then after sanding you apply satin clear coat ? I’m a little confused. Please help.
Apply paint/sealer, then for final coats apply clear coat. In between sessions, scuff sand to prepare for new layers. After final layer, flat sand and polish (if need for polish).
Your clear coat is what you want your end result to be, gloss, satin, or matte. In this video I had to do it twice as there was some miscommunication between satin and matte.
@@IPGuitars Awesome. Thanks man. Love your work. Keep it up !
When using a matte clear coat, does it make any difference if the black paint underneath is matte or glossy? I guess not, or maybe it's just a negligible difference.
Not really, but of course you'll see if the matte clear doesn't cover the glossy undercoat properly
Put a little lacquer thinner after every coat on the spray can tip so that it doesn’t stick on you.
Damn, that's a great tip!
Love the elevating table... THAT must have cost a fair bit?
It is soooo nice. But oddly enough it wasn't that expensive :) bought it secondhand for 175€
@@IPGuitars damn! Bargain!!! 😎
I find it odd, regarding the sanding process. You initially scuff sand so the paint has "something to grab onto". Then more and more attention is put into a smoother surface for additional paint and clear coat. What is these last coats grabbing on to ?
I am planning a guitar finish with no sanding. Just using a soft cloth and a product called liquid sand paper. I'll see...
Yeah, a bit misleading there. Sorry about that. The idea with scuff sanding is to yes, scuff the surface to give the next layers something to "grab onto" however as you go about scuff sanding your goal is to get to as smooth a surface as possible (e.g. no orange peel texture). You are still using the same grit sandpaper to do this so the "scuffs" are still the same depth that that sandpaper cuts. This is what the final layers are grabbing onto as well.
The aim of the smooth finish is after the final coat to be able to flat sand and then begin polishing, working up through the grits.
Please do let me know how the liquid sandpaper works out, I am very curious! I suspect that it is just a very coarse polishing compound?
Man, you’ve done something that always was in the back of my mind: you sand it to 1500 (or the scotch brite) and it looks like there was not an even layer of black matte, it looks like there was some stains in the black paint. And I always (I’m in my 4th matte guitar paint) try to eliminate all kind of “stain” (maybe it’s not a stain, is a lack of “matte shining” for a lack of a better word kkk) before I do the matte clear coat. And you simply put the matte coat and the “stain” vanish! It was all gone! I know, I’m a dumb “do and learn all by yourself even if I learn a lot studying several videos”, a kind of “Eddie VH try it doin’ and ruining it before learn it” but your video clear everything. I see it right, ain’t? The clear coat matte “flat” the ilusion of stain in the paint?
I believe I got what you meant yeah :)
And honestly, luthiery is pretty much always "learn by doing" with trial-and-error. And I started off just the same by watching TH-cam videos. So not dumb at all, you're doing it just right! :D
With guitar building, experimentation is key to learning a technique.
@@IPGuitars Thanks! Now you are my favorite youtube luthier - and I saw a lot of guys from different countries and even here in Brazil, we have a lot of great guys. I even learn luthiery in a personal course with a famous professional here. But in Brazil, almost all luthiers send the guitar to a few great painters to do the job. They are tired of ruined guitars with sprays and all :))) I myself like to try doing it and with spray (I know I can get better results with professional equipment, but I live in an apartment and have 3 years old twins). I will see all your videos. Thanks!
You are far too kind :)
But so great to hear that you're learning to do it yourself! Be sure to hit me up with any questions if you get stuck on something! I answer to all the comments I get.
@@IPGuitars And I'm stuck exactly in the part that I mentioned 😂 😂 After the sanding that you do with the Marlon thing, you give the guitar the last clean with your hands (I do the same; I don't use cloths or anything that can put tine elements in the paint) and your guitar looks very stained/spotted. I think before the clear matte coat you don't clean with a wet cloth or something, right? And if there are some spotted places yet it really vanishes after three or four layers of clear coat? In the video, after the process, the overall paint appears to be very OK.
You can use a wet wipe as well, for instance with something like rubbing alcohol and a cloth or even just a damp cloth with just water. You just need to be sure that when you spray your next layer, the surface is completely dry. This would get rid of all the dust left over. Another way of course is compressed air to blow off all the dust left from sanding.
If you're experiencing any spotting, that is either low dips in the paint/clear or going through layers of finish. Either way, the sollution is more layers until you can get a flat surface to polish.
Is that a scotch brite pad?
Not quite. It very much looks like it though :D it's Mirlon Total, manufactured by Mirka and it is intended for scuff sanding paint and lacquers. If I remember correctly, they have 3 different "grits"
@@IPGuitars Thnx :) What grit do you recommend? All need to do is finish up paint with one of those pads and then put a clear coat on.
The grey one is what I use. That's the "fine" I believe