U blame us for being meta slaves, but when we invite brew, they die on pulls where normally meta tanks would have more chance to survive, we use our own key and we have our choice which class to invite, if we seen 1 brew die on 15 do u think u would invite another brew master ?
So it feels like, based on the gameplay at the moment: - VDH if it remains like that, unkillable, caster's best friend - BDK king of pugs once more, maybe title-reachable - Prot Pally meta for 0.1% again due to highest damage and utility - Prot Warrior feelsbad kekw ~help me healer~ zero damage - Guardian Druid for people that truly enjoy playing the spec it will be fun - Brewmaster is raid exclusive, swap to MW if you wanna get invited
I'm new to guardian this xpac and while i dislike doing way less dmg than my vdh and pwar, the playstyle is pretty fun when it's all healing focused and the upcoming tier set working like it's own little convoke sounds extremely fun(cuz convoke sucks on guardian so you can't use it)
@ I really hope they fix the state of tanks, but it's not a priority for Blizzard, so it's impossible to tell what their plan is for which tank they want to remain strongest by the time it all goes live
As a guardian Druid I’m excited for the talent changes coming. Still love playing the spec although it does suck not having quite the snap aggro or the damage of paladin / vdh. You kinda feel like you’re dragging your team down
They need a bunch of stuff. We have laid it out for Blizz over and over but they just refuse to do real work on bears. Too busy reworking Arcane for the 10th time this year.
so vdh and bdk are the only 2 specs rn that can kill the packs without death, but only vdh can clear it in one take, even bdk needs some arrangements on talents and controls to do this. ROGER THAT VDH is gonna be only the openning meta in s2 again :D
tank that relies on self healing as part of gameplay can survive without healer compared to tank who doesn't. Shocking. VDH and BDK is going to meta for you every season if thats how you determine meta.
Enjoying the ptr videos and looking forward to s2! Would you possibly be willing to make a San'Layn BDK guide as we approach S2 launch? I have been a BDK main for TWW S1 and played Deathbringer for the majority but have been trying to learn San'Layn and struggling with it. Finding it hard to optimize my gear even at ~640+ in terms of having enough survivability vs max dmg and feeling too squishy relative to how I built Deathbringer. Also seems easier to fall behind rotationally without my marrowrends/bone shield getting autopiloted as much by Deathbringer. Thanks for content.
Suprised you're not using Mister Lock-N-Stalk and Viscera of Coalesced Hatred (on plate tanks)..... the amount of extra damage those things add is immense.
I think it's because BM has not enough self heal. But BM don't require the healer to do more healing than other tanks. BM benefit from group aoe healing and it's mostly enough
@@unpseudo1266 I think you’re right because from what I saw in the video, I don’t think the Brewmaster can clear that group alone without a healer’s help.
I have a feeling they will not be able to leave prot warrior as is. Now, whether that means it gets some minor buffs and still sucks, or gets overbuffed, remains to be seen, but it is bad enough that if it goes live as is, nobody will play it.
@@frededy4 that is one weird ass take bro. also bdk was meta for season 3 & 4 of shadowlands. By far the best tank. Couldn't die (unless you fucked up) and did like 50% more damage than all other tanks. Also if you're out here posting comments like that you won't do anything beyond +12 anyway. So just play what you want. I can do +12s on my bdk half asleep without pressing a defensive cooldown for any mechanic. That's guaranteed death on my prot pal with equal gear. You'll be fine.
@@NachosMitDip he has a point, since bfa blood has always been weak except that one broken tier set that isnt coming back. they need to give blood baseline 40-50% parry like prot or veng, or 20% more hp/armor or something. too vunerable to melees/physical hits. even sometimes im randomly dying in a GCD in a flipping 14 if melee's slightly sync lol...
Lol! So telling that even the top players leave Brew out. But if you ask Blizz, I bet everything is fine with Brewmaster. Equinox is doing fine, why don't you?
You do not really have that much time to use alot of Raze fighting a pack like that, so he is in essence doing the same rotation each time. Raze is suffering from the same problem prot warriors are facing, a competeing rage spender that is only really worth using when its free or when the content is easy. Otherwise, you're spamming Iron Fur (with ToI) and Ignore Pain.
Wanted to play 4 tanks on S2: My Everlasting BDK (maining it since WotLK) - Protadin (want to get better on it, is my least played tank) - and the last 2 spots was thinking of Brew and Warrior... Guess as long as Prot War is a meme spec, will be a "no go" for me (big sadge cause shield block sound effect is lit), still have faith for brewmasters 🙏. So i guess bear will come into action on S2 over warrior x)
No one wants to play Brewmaster, that's just how un-interesting it is, not to mention out of all classes, we got 1 change. What happened to BDK would probably happen to brewmasters but in 5s instead of the 10-15 you lasted lol
totally disagree - I play all tanks, I cannot say I am a very top player, but I have completed a bunch of 15's in time and I enjoy brewmaster the most, I am not sure why people hate it so much or just neglect it completely, also I think currenly brew damage is exceptional, although I know it is lower than a paladin tank damage
yes. pressing death strike is considerably more interesting than brew lol. people dont play brewe because it isnt simple and they are bad at it. its easier to play something that doesnt require you to think quite as much or risk dying.
@ I think that would be a personal preference though, just like when you play a guardian and press ironfur; I think my message was just about the general state or BRM and that it is not as bad as people portrait it to be
The issue with Brew is the juice isn't REMOTELY worth the squeeze. You have to be permanently locked in or you explode meanwhile Paladin just has to cycle it's 50 defensives every few seconds (3 of which make it impossible to die in AD, Bubble, Spellwarding). Brew also gets farmed by trash compared to some other tanks since it has variable dodge rating compared to Paladin having 100% block and an obscene amount of parry.
and guess why BDK can do that but Brew couldn't? I don't get what you are trying to say. Does everything have to be designed as a self healing tank now?
U must really want bear under the radar if you’re stress testing on that build 😂😂 It’s like u intentionally took every wrong talent or scuffed a raid build by just slapping EC on and lunar beam 😂😂
Really hope it doesn’t turn into a VDH season - such a boring spec to play and its just not fun. Heres hoping Blizz drops some serious BDK tuning news or better yet: surprise Brewmaster rework.
Even Yoda forgot about BRM...
The Brewmaster doesn’t need to be tested. Playing with him is 100% stress. :D
"except brew" :D
Meta slaves going to look at this video and instant decline every brewmaster they see. Thanks bro.
nothing new there
Brew is deadge this expansion
U blame us for being meta slaves, but when we invite brew, they die on pulls where normally meta tanks would have more chance to survive, we use our own key and we have our choice which class to invite, if we seen 1 brew die on 15 do u think u would invite another brew master ?
@@heinminhtetaung5404 that is to be expected anyway. Brew is definitely harder to play than other tanks.
So it feels like, based on the gameplay at the moment:
- VDH if it remains like that, unkillable, caster's best friend
- BDK king of pugs once more, maybe title-reachable
- Prot Pally meta for 0.1% again due to highest damage and utility
- Prot Warrior feelsbad kekw ~help me healer~ zero damage
- Guardian Druid for people that truly enjoy playing the spec it will be fun
- Brewmaster is raid exclusive, swap to MW if you wanna get invited
I'm new to guardian this xpac and while i dislike doing way less dmg than my vdh and pwar, the playstyle is pretty fun when it's all healing focused and the upcoming tier set working like it's own little convoke sounds extremely fun(cuz convoke sucks on guardian so you can't use it)
yes. this is totally how things will end up opn live in 4 or 6 weeks lol.
@ I really hope they fix the state of tanks, but it's not a priority for Blizzard, so it's impossible to tell what their plan is for which tank they want to remain strongest by the time it all goes live
what does title reachable mean?
absolutely wild take to say something is "maybe title-reachable" lol
GUY IS TRYING SO HARD TO REVIVE DK LOL
I just want a BDK season so bad, love the class!
Can you please tell me what kind of playlist with music is playing in the background?
I am not sure exactly but it sounds a lot like Demetori Touhou covers. Hope this helps :)
monks in shambles
love to see yoda playing blood
San"Layn is such a cool concept I really wish they would rework or buff the sub class tree, it fits blood dk so well.
god warrior is looking so damn sad this patch.
BUFF BLOOD DK ! SAY IT LOUD ! :D
Man I absolutely love aldrachi VDH. So much fun
As a guardian Druid I’m excited for the talent changes coming. Still love playing the spec although it does suck not having quite the snap aggro or the damage of paladin / vdh. You kinda feel like you’re dragging your team down
Druid needs a 20% over DPS increase and it’s fine
@ agree, either a dps buff for non-pally/vdh or a small damage nerf for those two would be welcome
They need a bunch of stuff. We have laid it out for Blizz over and over but they just refuse to do real work on bears. Too busy reworking Arcane for the 10th time this year.
so vdh and bdk are the only 2 specs rn that can kill the packs without death, but only vdh can clear it in one take, even bdk needs some arrangements on talents and controls to do this. ROGER THAT VDH is gonna be only the openning meta in s2 again :D
tank that relies on self healing as part of gameplay can survive without healer compared to tank who doesn't. Shocking. VDH and BDK is going to meta for you every season if thats how you determine meta.
Enjoying the ptr videos and looking forward to s2! Would you possibly be willing to make a San'Layn BDK guide as we approach S2 launch? I have been a BDK main for TWW S1 and played Deathbringer for the majority but have been trying to learn San'Layn and struggling with it. Finding it hard to optimize my gear even at ~640+ in terms of having enough survivability vs max dmg and feeling too squishy relative to how I built Deathbringer. Also seems easier to fall behind rotationally without my marrowrends/bone shield getting autopiloted as much by Deathbringer. Thanks for content.
You almost had us with that bdk video
So VDH again for me
So the S1 C tier VDH is king again, gotcha xD
Loved how you were trying to justify the deaths xD
Were you playing aldrachi reaver?
You lost me at “except brew”
Don’t blame him for not trying brew. Would have died in 30 seconds.
prot warr its a joke , bilizard its a joke...
Suprised you're not using Mister Lock-N-Stalk and Viscera of Coalesced Hatred (on plate tanks)..... the amount of extra damage those things add is immense.
Paladin casually doing 1 mil more dps...dogshit balancing.
why except bm monk 😐?
I think it's because BM has not enough self heal. But BM don't require the healer to do more healing than other tanks. BM benefit from group aoe healing and it's mostly enough
Yoda doesn't enjoy brew, and isn't very good at it bc he never plays it.
@@unpseudo1266 i thiin its because he doesnt like brew. its pretty simple.
@@unpseudo1266 I think you’re right because from what I saw in the video, I don’t think the Brewmaster can clear that group alone without a healer’s help.
Brew is weak
I hope vdh is strongest again, only time i had fun tanking a whole season lol
When will demon hunters end their racial discrimination and allow Tauren to join their ranks
Hopefully never. At least for the ridiculous idea of tauren DH, for some other logical races it could open.
Cmon man, Buffalowings is just ready for the perfect cow DH name.
double fiery brand build on vdh ? i guess no value going cycle of binding either, agro issues gona be fun. rip fel scarred🙏
there is def reason to do sigils in the higher mob count dungeons, I wouldn't take this double brand as law for every key
prot pala+damage+utility+interrupts = meta .. bye bye
Paladin was doing by far the most dmg, right? So with a bit of help from healer isnt that still the best?
No point testing Brew, it's cheeks
The fact you even lived that long on warrior without a healer and said you’re bad actually means it’s strong
Come on. Play Brewmaster. You are a pro-gamer.
its ok. i just take it as he doesnt want to bother taking the time to learn it. cant be good at everything i guess :L)
I just started gearing a brew, and I’ve never played a spec that has such a high skill floor. Maybe disc priest back in SL. I get it.
He has no interest in bad tank specs
vdh talents pls
so VDH was nerfed because of dmg yet paladin is doing 1m more but doesn't need nerf.
Hey Yoda, would you use rune of sang now for bdk with the new 4set?
There's no universe where this gives more dmg in keys than fallen crusader. The set bonus would need to have 100% uptime.
Yo, would pay for a membership if you grabbed greg and did some sort of similar test on all the healers so I do not feel the need to :D
Monk Tank ?
Monk healer?
Brew, nothing to see here
BDK goes craaaaaaaaazy :)
am I trolling myself by playing warrior?
Just play what you like the most. Dont be a meta whore
Yes lol prot is worst tank probably utility wise and maybe even damage wise. The other tanks can do the same shit but better
@Thomas-hh3iv depends what your goals are really.
I have a feeling they will not be able to leave prot warrior as is. Now, whether that means it gets some minor buffs and still sucks, or gets overbuffed, remains to be seen, but it is bad enough that if it goes live as is, nobody will play it.
@@Gumblethebear I will have to play him, war is my main
Didnt you put bdk in s tier?🤔
bdk will never ever b s tier. yoda is full copeing to get b dk nerfed even more bc he dosent want to play it.
@@frededy4 It was S+++ tier for entire second half of SL due to how rune weapon worked, + jailer mace.
@@frededy4 that is one weird ass take bro. also bdk was meta for season 3 & 4 of shadowlands. By far the best tank. Couldn't die (unless you fucked up) and did like 50% more damage than all other tanks.
Also if you're out here posting comments like that you won't do anything beyond +12 anyway. So just play what you want. I can do +12s on my bdk half asleep without pressing a defensive cooldown for any mechanic. That's guaranteed death on my prot pal with equal gear. You'll be fine.
@@NachosMitDip he has a point, since bfa blood has always been weak except that one broken tier set that isnt coming back.
they need to give blood baseline 40-50% parry like prot or veng, or 20% more hp/armor or something. too vunerable to melees/physical hits. even sometimes im randomly dying in a GCD in a flipping 14 if melee's slightly sync lol...
Lol! So telling that even the top players leave Brew out. But if you ask Blizz, I bet everything is fine with Brewmaster. Equinox is doing fine, why don't you?
Brew doesnt exist anymore in WoW i think^^
am i saw something wrong? u do about 2,2M dps with each of the Druid builds
Are you pulling the same pack on the same ptr build?:P
@@zeitz4473 i saw this in this video, i dont do it myself, and ye he was pullin the same all the time
You do not really have that much time to use alot of Raze fighting a pack like that, so he is in essence doing the same rotation each time.
Raze is suffering from the same problem prot warriors are facing, a competeing rage spender that is only really worth using when its free or when the content is easy.
Otherwise, you're spamming Iron Fur (with ToI) and Ignore Pain.
@ Thanks a lot
Wanted to play 4 tanks on S2: My Everlasting BDK (maining it since WotLK) - Protadin (want to get better on it, is my least played tank) - and the last 2 spots was thinking of Brew and Warrior...
Guess as long as Prot War is a meme spec, will be a "no go" for me (big sadge cause shield block sound effect is lit), still have faith for brewmasters 🙏.
So i guess bear will come into action on S2 over warrior x)
"every tank" well you forgot one kinda bait
These packs usually kill themself by bombs. Now its doesnt work?
They changed them so they do not do friendly fire anymore
no brew... sadge :(
Wouldn't be a Yoda vid if he knew Brewmaster was a thing
No one wants to play Brewmaster, that's just how un-interesting it is, not to mention out of all classes, we got 1 change. What happened to BDK would probably happen to brewmasters but in 5s instead of the 10-15 you lasted lol
totally disagree - I play all tanks, I cannot say I am a very top player, but I have completed a bunch of 15's in time and I enjoy brewmaster the most, I am not sure why people hate it so much or just neglect it completely, also I think currenly brew damage is exceptional, although I know it is lower than a paladin tank damage
yes. pressing death strike is considerably more interesting than brew lol. people dont play brewe because it isnt simple and they are bad at it. its easier to play something that doesnt require you to think quite as much or risk dying.
@ I think that would be a personal preference though, just like when you play a guardian and press ironfur; I think my message was just about the general state or BRM and that it is not as bad as people portrait it to be
The issue with Brew is the juice isn't REMOTELY worth the squeeze. You have to be permanently locked in or you explode meanwhile Paladin just has to cycle it's 50 defensives every few seconds (3 of which make it impossible to die in AD, Bubble, Spellwarding).
Brew also gets farmed by trash compared to some other tanks since it has variable dodge rating compared to Paladin having 100% block and an obscene amount of parry.
and guess why BDK can do that but Brew couldn't? I don't get what you are trying to say. Does everything have to be designed as a self healing tank now?
It’s not a VDH season. Delete this video immediately before blizzard sees
Kekw no bw 😂
U must really want bear under the radar if you’re stress testing on that build 😂😂
It’s like u intentionally took every wrong talent or scuffed a raid build by just slapping EC on and lunar beam 😂😂
vdh will be da king as always
Really hope it doesn’t turn into a VDH season - such a boring spec to play and its just not fun.
Heres hoping Blizz drops some serious BDK tuning news or better yet: surprise Brewmaster rework.
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