Honorable mentions to do if you like them: - Daily Meta Events (Octovine, Ley-Line Anomaly etc.) - Purchasing Pact Scout Mapping Materials - Dungeons - EoD Strikes - Open-World Node Farms - Exchanging a Specific Rare Fish with Taro Everclaw for a Chunk of Ancient Ambergris each day These were excluded from the video primarily based on lack of efficiency, but if you enjoy them then they can all still give a small chunk of additional loot every day.
I like farming Tequatl for gold. It spawns 6 times a day at specific times, takes about 15 minutes to kill, and you get 1g for killing it with each character once a day, and an exotic chest with 1g for each account once a day, plus a bunch of items to sell. You can check specific times at the wiki under Event Timers.
I like the Mapping Materials although it can be just the slightest bit tedious because you're opening up the wiki to check locations but if 40 are used to complete a map that gives the 44 shiny baubles it equates to slightly less than 2g per day spent or roughly 6s per 1000 karma.
For noobs or non gw2 players, note that not all the rewards or drops mentioned here mean liquid gold. Rewards are crafting materials, gear loot, currencies etc. It's a very rough estimate of its value into gold
@@eroll2 yea so lets say you open a chest and it gives you 3 unidentified blues, and 2 unidentified greens, that's like 6-7 silver if you sell it on the TP. Or you earn a type of currency- you spend it to buy a bag of materials, then you sell the materials for gold on the TP. It's can be convoluted, but its intentional for the health of the game economy.
this video was actually great and as someone just now dipping into Endgame stuff I actually didnt know you should buy the daily fractal keys. i didnt even know u could buy them.
The wonderful part about that one is that if the keys ever go down in value, the encryptions will go up making fractals more worth doing. There's no way that the overall gold value of fractals ever goes down very much because of that inverse relationship.
52 out of the 70 gold come from group content (strikes and fractals) and I suspect high level fractals. Most people don't engage in this content, let alone daily. The remaining 18 gold are about selling stuff you get from various places, but if you are crafting exotic (celestial for example) or ascended items for example you would need a lot of these materials. If you craft legendary items you will need your spirit shards, etc.: my point is those items will only give you as much gold if you're not crafting stuff but rather will save you gold instead. So although it's a good video, I feel that it's not really that useful for most players. Not a criticism, but just an observation.
Absolutely true. Most players don't engage in the content. A lot of the point I'm trying to illustrate is more players should at least give the content a real try instead of writing it off as too inconvenient or difficult. Brand new players will still be able to get over 10 gold just doing easy strikes and fractals. As far as needing many of the items for building your account, I'd actually look at that as a positive. The profit is in your account and you could use it for anything, but the best thing for your gold-making long-term as a newer player is to reinvest the first gold you earn into things like gear. The even better part is the gold cited for each activity here assumes you're selling the product and incurring the 15% TP tax. If you actually use the materials yourself, the margins of profit can be significantly larger. In the case of celestial exotics it's actually a huge difference, because players almost always instant buy and the gear can be really expensive compared to the crafting price. You're definitely right in saying that newer players will only see a small portion of this gold going into their wallet if they make those decisions, but they'd otherwise have to earn even more gold to replace these items by buying them and it doesn't take very long to meet all those needs and start pocketing all the profit. All that said, I realize this is more of a developmental process than a lot of players are wanting to deal with, but there's little I can do to change that attitude once people are set on it, other than show them the other 40ish gold they're missing out on. The next video will go over some of the options players have if they choose to lock themselves out of the ones in this video, or if they really want to progress faster than they can starting out with just daily gold.
Yea I've been playing this game pretty casually since launch. The most gold I've ever had is 400g from just doing exclusively PvP and selling everything I received. When I decided I wanted to start crafting a legendary that gold quickly went to 0 because I had to buy all the mats I had sold.
@@paintl3gz That was very much my life for the longest time; I actually had built towards Twilight for like 7 years. What helped me out, tho, wasn't trying to lose braincells bruteforcing fractal cms with dicks, but rather just chill fishing and doing some routine metas. Do this meta here, that meta there; maybe one day you feel like gathering some stuff and at others you pick up some pact materials. The variety helps a lot with not burning out. And after I got Twilight, I kinda got Vision just by fishing my way toward the fishing title (which got me like 800g through all the fish). Then I finished Aurene's sword and Astralaria just recently; also funded by fishing. Just dip your toes into different things and do the stuff that is most fun to you. If it's pvp, do that. If it's crafting stuff and slowly selling it, do that. If you find a particular meta super fun, just do that a lot.
@@paintl3gz I’ve been playing GW2 since shortly after launch and the most gold I’ve ever been able to keep in my wallet was just over 2000. When I began crafting Legendary weapons, my wallet went back down to just under 1000 gold and then I built it back up to about 1500, before I was ready to craft my 2nd Legendary weapon. Now I have crafted 16 Legendary weapons and I’m almost ready for number 17, with my wallet at 912 gold and I’ll need to buy about half of the needed tier 6 materials, so my gold will drop to maybe 550 to 600, but I find that I can build it back up to close to 1,000 gold by the time I’m ready to craft another Legendary weapon. Now I must start working on Legendary armor and trinkets, so that might drop my gold further than normal, but I think you get my point.
It's more or less the routine I try to do. But for dailies I go for the 3 fastest ones . Usually end up being 2 pve (gathering and vistas) and one wvw (big spender, master of monuments). Worthy of note is that when Daily Mystic Forger is up, it's a must do whenever you did other dailies or not
Yep, this is exactly what I have been doing for years! Easy 2 gold in 15 minutes and sometimes it only takes a few minutes depending if it's really easy ones lol
Note: If you're into long-term fractal rewards, you may want to not buy fractal encryption keys with fractal relics. Just open the fractal relics with the keys you get dropped and sell the other encryption on the TP. This will give you a bit less gold but allows you to save fractal relics faster. Top-tier fractal rewards like everlasting potions and permanent account upgrades will cost tens of thousands fractal relics.
Id also like to mention that you can buy gathering tools for karma, which give you bonus or different materials
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One correction: you will get bumped up to lvl80 when you enter fractals, so you can start doing Tier 1 fractals whenever you like. I do weekly newbie tutorial runs for guildies and we often have one or more
True. Level 80 isn't TECHNICALLY a requirement, but most people won't be as accommodating and helpful as it sounds like you are.
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Kinda true. LFG groups usually expect some competence for fractals (and that's understandable), but I'd say that the biggest recommendation I have for any player is to find a good guild for yourself. Even if you're sure you'll never participate in any group activity (like I was until 1.5 years ago), just joining a guild doesn't mean you have to. And if you find a good guild, it might happen that you suddenly find yourself participating on things and finding totally new ways to enjoy the game. And who knows, maybe even friendships that'll last for the rest of your life ❤️. Or not, but even in that case you lost nothing by joining. Especially when you can be in up to 5 guilds at the same time :)
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(eg on my guild there's almost always ppl willing to join if someone asks for fractal or dungeon run. Be it T4 fractals or story mode dungeons. My newbie tutorials are just meant to encourage new players to take that first step into a content that many find intimidating before trying it. Usually after that they're happily joining on the random guildie groups :))
something that can be really nice for gathering home instance or guild halls and other such things is if you can do it on a build that give yourself quickness out of combat that can make it a lot faster to do, herald is the easiest for this, there is a lot of quickness sources that require an enemy for you to attack to get quickness like berserker or deadeye need an enemy but there's probably sources I'm forgetting since there's a lot of skills to go through and i only remember what traits give group quickness
that is 30 gold less then the time where silverwastes was good and i was farming it whole day every day and getting 100 gold per day more or less and because consume all was not a thing i ended up breaking 2 mouses over the time from clicking all those bags it was 1k bags a day and if i ever have to farm this game again am gonna throw up
The best way to make gold is to max out your masteries in core Tyria + all expansions so you get spirit shards every time you level up. Do this ASAP. Save up enough gold to make a legendary weapon. You can either do the precursor collection or buy a precursor to make the legendary & sell it on the TP. Rinse & repeat. Now you'll have enough gold to flip items on the TP. Bid on items that have a big gap between the bid & buyout. It costs you nothing to bid & you can always cancel it & get your gold back. If you play it smart you can make a ton of gold this way
This is tuned for me but I have a friend that get on daily with me so we do: - pvp 30 silver win, 15 silver loss so about three or so matches - HoT hero champ run since we are good enough to duo Champs - Daily ascended craft to sell - Ez Strikes - Bjora Ice Gather Route We make between 20-30g depending how things are selling. It's consistent, simple, and doesn't require us to dedicate hours even though he has a fully leggy character geared out and I have full ascended with one leg weapon
If the guilds have different synthesis output levels you can do multiple halls. I'm in a guild alliance with our alt guilds and we have 3. Island, lost, and gilded halls. Keep the heart of maguuma daily on ez mode and extra mats.
I appreciate your willingness to help but I must say that video's title is quite misleading. Only around 15g (max) of those 70 is actually available to all players: -Fracs and IBS strikes both require organized groups and T4s also require full asc gear + expensive AR. And the strikes + drizzle require IBS which is purchased with gems; -T1s can be done with exo gear but either way it still requires an organized group (can take a lot of time to find on LFG) and profit is A LOT lower than T4s; -Alt parking requires having lots of alts (which most people don't have); -Daily crafting requires high lvl crafting (not everyone is 400+); -Home instance requires waiting for someone with a 'good soul', full home and is willing to share. In the video you say it's "easy" but according to my experience this can literally take hours; -Guild nodes can be more or less profitable, if it's a low level guild (like most guilds) you won't be getting more than a few silver out of it; -Converters are available to everyone, given you have the time and patience to finish those collections. Some of them collections are quite annoying to finish and profit per day is under 1g; -Daily login and achiev: those ones are available for all players, but login specially is not always profitable. E.g: when you're awarded bag of luck, transmute charges, acc bound gear or xp boosters (yes, I understand that all those are nice to have but we're talking about GOLD).
Day 1 you might be correct. But I've seen people go from freshly hitting level 80 to accessing everything on this list within 2 weeks several times. Not everyone is going to be that motivated, but the point remains that the process of unlocking these isn't super exclusive. CMs + T4s take the longest to unlock, but if you're putting your earnings toward a set of ascended gear it doesn't take more than like 2-3 weeks to gear. Joining a large guild will readily give access to guild nodes and usually several players with full home instances. If players want gold to just appear in their accounts for doing 1 or 2 metas that they sit at and auto attack a few times, they're going to be disappointed. There's plenty of people out there telling new players to do that as THE way to make gold. What I hope to achieve on this channel, if nothing else, is showing players there are MANY ways to make gold and that a lot of ways exist that can help them more than what casual players tell them to do, coming from someone who has more experience with gold-making than 99.99% of players. I'm actually really happy to hear that some new players have watched this, noticed they only have access to 10 or 20 or 30 gold/day with this right now, and taken the opportunity to set goals to unlock all these methods. The most depressing thing to me about just recommending octovine is that most of the players I see following that sort of advice quickly stop logging in every day because they're either bored and unable to find goals for themselves in the game OR they're demotivated by how slowly they're progressing with those methods. The easy way of doing things often leads to inferior results. That doesn't mean all of this is for everyone, but I'd hope more new players give a legitimate try to things like Fractals instead of being discouraged by veteran players who had a bad experience 2 years ago in T3 LFG, haven't gone back since, and talk loudly about it whenever someone mentions the content. At the end of the day the title says "BEST" and not "EASIEST". The next video will be more oriented towards open-world players, but you've actually given me an idea for a "best gold makers without living story episodes video" so cheers for that.
T1's are not all that hard. I am speaking as a fairly new player....only been playing this game for a little over a year and started learning fractals towards the end of last year. I did manage to solo one T1 (after about an hour and a half and maybe 5 or 6 deaths haha) it was Chaos, so I can speak from experience that T1's do not require a full group, just a bit of coordinating....and maybe a couple of friends for fun! Oh and yes, that was with 0 AR.
@@vicki1460 Soloing any group content is hard, and if you manage to do it either way it is going to take a lot of time. That means bad g/h ratio even if you succeed. However if you're doing it as a personal achiev then I can understand 100%! Otherwise I wouldn't consider it as effective farming. Not to mention T1's give a lot less loot than T4's and most of it comes from daily reward chests. So it's either get a group (good luck with that) and do all the daily ones or don't even bother with them...
When I started gw 2 I took me about 1 week to start doing fractals. In 1 month I was able to clear t2's already and eventually few months after that I cleared cm 100. I was doing raids once I got my first ascended set (which isnt that hard to get really, just do fractals) and learned how to tank as a chronomancer. Tadaa 8 months in when I crafted my first legendary armor pieces + 2 legendary weapons. Raids and fractals are accessable to anybody if you are willing to learn. Most people arent, they think they know everything, quit when they day and start moaning how raiding/fractal community is toxic. Its not, its very welcomming if you are willing to listen and learn. I got like 180 mastery points yet still have full set of legendary armor right now ^^
Can someone please explain what is meant by fractal keys being profitable?... Do you/can you/should you sell the fractal keys on the TP directly? Do you/should you sell Fractal Encryptions on the TP, crack them first then sell them or do you open them yourself? Should I be buying Fractal Encryptions from the TP and using my own keys on to open them? I'm clearly a bit confused by how to interpret the [fast] farm site on this one.
Keys are not tradeable. The second table on the [Fast] site is what you want to look at. Those are the profits if you buy order encryptions from the TP and open them with keys acquired by the methods listed on the table. The following assumptions are made: you don't instabuy, you don't instasell, and you have the mastery required to get the maximum loot from the encryptions. For most players, they'll have to buy order some of the encryptions because they'll get keys faster. Open what you get, buy what you need to open the rest. Periodically reference the page to make sure nothing has changed drastically.
It's sword/axe with berseker and scholar runes, but that's going to be out of date at this point. It's whatever the snowcrows/discretize builds were at the time, so go to the snowcrows website and see what they've got for power soulbeast now.
just as a heads up, most alt parking spots either require ridiculous achievements or a skyscale/griffon or both. Don't give most of those a try unless you're ready to do either.
Thank you so much for that last tip of only opening encryptions with the mastery. I'm a new player and was confused on why i was losing money... Do you know if i can save my keys and chests for now and only open them all after unlocking the mastery?
You most certainly can just save them. The items you obtain are identical, it's just what you get from them that will change. I'd definitely recommend unlocking the fractal masteries before you unlock the legendary crafting ones. I think a lot of people give legendary crafting masteries unnecessary priority when you can still craft just about everything except gen 2 legendaries without the masteries.
@@abree107 I am very new so i'm still not even close to done unlocking autoloot mastery, haven't started on fractals masteries yet. I will save them all and try to focus a bit more on mastery, thank you once again for the help!
Daily logins give you a variety of items, such as Mystic Coins, tomes of knowledge, bags of crafting materials, and Mystic Clovers. All of these have gold value. Some can be directly sold and others require more steps to extract value. "With clovers" is assuming you choose the Mystic Clovers option from the chest of loyalty on day 28 of the login calendar.
Most daily parks are not that usefull (by example, I use reaping to gather all nodes, but it is recommended to use another one that provide something else and most of the daily reward seems to come from this. Which spots do you use personnally? I have one on the 3 chests in Path of Fire, and all the others either on a chest in the frozen expansion, or on flax
Glyphs do add a significant amount to places with nodes. I do a couple of the Bjora Marches chests. I used to do others like that spot in crystal oasis, but now I use those characters for buying provisioner tokens because I value the future convenience more than the gold.
Please tell me where you see 40 gold for cms+t4s?? I usually get 20-25 max if I’m lucky. Please tell me where you’re getting 40 gold from? Also, are fractal recs also worth it?
On top of the more visible rewards, you also get 3 integrated fractal matrices, which can be traded for 30 keys if you're not going for account augmentations. You'll also drop a few rings, and occasionally ascended salvage kits and mystic coins from the daily chests, which have additional value. Fractals also give a pretty insane amount of experience, which yields spirit shards, which have a decent value as well. Then there's a bunch of materials including lodestones that you're probably just depositing and not thinking about. A surprising amount of value gets hidden away in your wallet and material storage. [Fast] has a fractal daily calculator on their site, but they have very few data sets for CMs and their numbers are actually lower than reality because they don't value in rings at their salvage value. They also don't value in fractal relics, but their value is sort of debatable so I support that decision. Currently, they value today's CMs at 39 gold. With the aforementioned adjustment, 40g is more than reasonable. If you value in relics, you could call in the value at even higher. I'm not going to tell you recs are worth it by gold-per-hour standards compared to CMs or T4s, but they're not bad either. I personally did them up until the point where I got all the pages and pristine relics I needed and now I only do them if I'm playing with someone who needs them. If you enjoy fractals or need the account-bound rewards, for sure do them.
@@abree107 Wow thanks for the detailed reply, appreciate it! So I guess liquid gold wise it’s about 20 gold or so, but when you combine everything it’s about 40?
@@MoGaiinz "Liquid gold" refers to gold and anything that could be readily sold for gold, like materials. Typically people don't count wallet currencies into that and neither does GW2Efficiency. If I had to guess it's probably about 35 liquid and then 5 from currencies? I guess it also depends slightly on if you have the fractal empowerment upgrade unlocked, as that gives 0.1-0.4 spirit shards per fractal completed on top of the typical rewards. "Raw gold" refers to the actual gold in your wallet and 20 sounds about right after you've opened all the encryptions and sold the junk. Long-term, liquid gold makes the most sense to look at with gold-making because those materials or items will generally either be sold into gold or used to craft items, which saves you the gold required to buy them. It can definitely seem like an invisible stat to a lot of players. The number of times I've had someone tell me how broke they are, then watch them register on Gw2Efficiency and see that they have 1000+ liquid gold in stuff chilling in their mat storage is actually just too many to count.
I play a lot solo & like farming methods that I can do alone. One of the things I find easy is the sunken treasure for swim speed infusions. For quick keys I hit caladon forest east then when I get a stockpile i do 4 sunken treasures per day getting me another key & a bit over 3 gold worth of items plus some non sellable loot.
This is a really good one if you can manage all the spots and key counts well. There may be a video eventually about repeatable solo farms, but on the current timetable with all the other videos I want to do it could be a really long time before that one gets made.
@@abree107 This also ties into the fractals because you autocomplete the daily key achievement in 98cm. So you get also 1 key per day from doing cms+t4.
This is assuming you're buying encryptions, yes. Obviously you want to get them from other players or buy order, not instant buy. The first 30 are pretty much always going to be worth doing. The next 30 kind of varies on pricing and what you consider worthwhile.
Well you should be buying some keys every day and opening the encryptions you get from doing the fractals, which is probably the most apparent portion of the profit. Then you get a variety of materials that also add to it. You can either sell them or use them for your own crafting, the latter giving you a higher value if you can do it. And the last portion of the profit comes in the form of items that aren't directly tradeable. You get spirit shards and fractal relics, which can be indirectly converted to gold. You also get ascended rings and ascended salvage kits, which you can use to get more stabilizing matrices. Those are quite valuable and can be used to buy additional fractal encryption keys. That's also not counting the karma you get, which admittedly doesn't contribute anything significant to the gold value, but is still nice to have. High tier fractals are just so good for making gold.
I'm just amazed of how much content there is an I'm just yet to scratch the surface... To me my small amount of gold is just enough to play casually. I just like having a break inbetween here and there (Full time job and a parent). Are these farming methods necessary for the casual player?
I'm thinking to get more active again this is basically what i used to do few months ago, is there nothing in EoD worthwile to do in terms of gold/hr on a daily basis?
Unfortunately, the random rare fish exchange with Taro Everclaw is probably the best thing and it requires you to already be doing a lot of fishing to be worthwhile. EoD's liquid gold rewards are a little on the low side, with most things focused on the jade bot or generation 3 legendaries. Unfortunately, the daily rewards are the most underwhelming part. At least it keeps old content useful!
Keep all of them until you know you don't need them. Selling and buying things back will almost always lose you money. There's still plenty of materials I get and have no clue if I need them or not. The instant gratification of selling stuff as you get it just isn't worth the losses when you need the stuff later.
Yup, keep everything until you educate yourself about what you need later and what you will likely never need for crafting later. I keep at least one stack of every cooking material in storage and sell the rest, just in case I need to craft foods in the future. Since I’m already at max jewelry crafting level, I sell most of the gem stones that I get, but there’s ways to upgrade or craft items with them that would make me more gold, so check out the possibilities before selling stuff.
As someone with over 5k hours in this game I agree with all of these poins mentioned. Also extra tips: If you dont care about Legends gen3 each week you can buy 5 Antique Summoning Stone and just insta sell them for easy 40g/week.(Requires maxed Arborstone mastery for that). Another point are raids, standard and well know wings like W1-4 can be cleared quickly and its nice additional gold. Dungeons are great if you can clear them really quickly - for actual profit from them you need to be really skilled. If you know you know. All those point arent even scratching the sufrace of making gold.
Converters, especially the ones that eat bloodstone dust/empyreal fragments will often lose you money vs crafting them into toxic maintenance oils/focusing crystals, etc.
I have an question to open world farming. Everyone says that you can up to 30 gold in one hour with event maps like silver wastes and the one from the ice brood saga. I have already played this events many times but had never the feeling to get that much money from it. So what do you mean with 30 gold an hour? Do you mean that you get that from the materials that you get and sell when you disassemble armors and weapons or is it the money you make from selling rare weapons that you can get with a little chance that are worth something like 10 gold or more? I don't really get how you can make that much money with this map because even when I play an whole day on this map and make these events over 10 times in one day the best portion of money that I can make in this time and with this I mean 10 hour playtime is 30 Gold...
I'd advise watching my "How Gold Works" video. Typically gold per hour figures refer to total gold value, which includes materials and wallet currencies. I'd also advise making an account on gw2efficiency and referencing your liquid gold once or twice a day when you play. You might find the materials you're depositing are worth more than you'd think. I will say material prices are currently low, so you might end up receiving rates that are toward the low end of the ranges given in the video.
@@psoldoy9847 The liquid gold on your account home page lets you keep track of the value of materials you've tucked away. Wallet currencies are really up to you to value. You'll see yourself gain liquid gold when you actually use wallet currencies for a profitable process.
Someone else asked a similar question so I'll repost my response to that. TLDR: 10-15g is about what you get in raw gold. 40g is about what you get in total liquid gold value, which includes the values of items and currencies that can be converted to gold. On top of the more visible rewards, you also get 3 integrated fractal matrices, which can be traded for 30 keys if you're not going for account augmentations. You'll also drop a few rings, and occasionally ascended salvage kits and mystic coins from the daily chests, which have additional value. Fractals also give a pretty insane amount of experience, which yields spirit shards, which have a decent value as well. Then there's a bunch of materials including lodestones that you're probably just depositing and not thinking about. A surprising amount of value gets hidden away in your wallet and material storage. [Fast] has a fractal daily calculator on their site, but they have very few data sets for CMs and their numbers are actually lower than reality because they don't value in rings at their salvage value. They also don't value in fractal relics, but their value is sort of debatable so I support that decision. Currently, they value today's CMs at 39 gold. With the aforementioned adjustment, 40g is more than reasonable. If you value in relics, you could call in the value at even higher.
I suggest to add raiding to the list. That is between 60 and 100g per week. With a advanced group clear can be done in 3-4 hrs. Maybe quicker the more you and the group invests into hardcore gaming.
Raiding would be more in the theme of weekly vs. daily. A couple people have suggested doing a weekly video, but honestly I'm not sure how many other things there are besides raids. Formal petition for repeat raid rewards to be more than 5 blue unids.
How do you know if the 30 discounted fractal keys are worth it? Also is it still worth it if you have to buy extra fractal encryption boxes to use the keys?
The fast page linked in the description will show profits. You'll want to look at the second table on the page. As of the time of this comment, it's a bit over 1 silver profit per key for the 2nd set of 30. I personally don't consider that worth the hassle, but historically it's been as much as 5 silver per key for the 2nd 30. Make sure you're buy ORDERING the extra fractal encryptions instead of instant buying them though.
Great advices overall thanks a lot :] Been enjoying fractals a lot for "sure everyday decent gold", but still at t3 for a year now because t4 lfg itself looks really intimidating to me. Maybe one day. Will try strikes and parking as you mentioned :]
Let me tell u from expirience t3 fracs are so much worse then t4. Its the Limbo area where people dont fully optimize their builds or gear, yet the content is already "hard" enough to give u trouble without a propper healer. Just do it and join a t4 Daily Run. On average t4 runs are way better simply because people teamcomp appropriatly. Whats the worst that could happen? Some random guy in a Video game dislike u and kicks u? Who cares really.
@@slashersoul2380 Don't get me wrong, I want to. But it feels like there's this weird gap between t3 and t4 like you go from normal stuff to pro league instantly and it looks like people expect you to be on their level right off the bat. LFG groups be like "need x/x/x". I'm "only" dps. I know my stuff, yes. My logs are good. But t4 looks way too serious to me. I'm not going to fractals to mess aruond, but this is something else. I'll ask my guildies anyway
@@im_Dafox i see ur point and thats how i once felt about fractal cms. in the end though its just the next step on content. its nothing crazy or even close to pro league. like, if u check out any fractal speedruns, and compare that to your casual t4 lfg expirience u will laugh or cry, maybe both xD so ye, dont psyche urself out so much. u got this, and t4 is barely different from t3 if u discount the cms. anyhow i wish u much success on ur t4 journey :) edit: the fact that u even know logs exist shows ur waaaaay ahead of most "dps" players in t4 fractals trust me on this. (discounting cms again)
T4 fractals simply weed out the vast majority of players with "theorycraft builds" that are incredibly bad and sometimes even as useless as not having a 5th player. I used to be one of those useless party members, so I'm more than familiar with the transition. You still get plenty of them in T3. So the number of attempts required to clear in T4 groups is typically lower than in T3, despite the difficulty increase just because more people actually know what they're doing to a decent degree and so they'll make an actual composition. It makes things way easier than dealing with T3 groups where you're only getting 10 stacks of might, no alacrity, and no quickness because someone is playing rampager's druid. If it makes you a little uncomfortable, doing them with guildies first is a great bet. I grinded out fractal god and I'm still "only" a dps player as well.
@@slashersoul2380 Thanks a lot for taking the time to share your experience and the words, really appreciate that. While I'm not going to jump in heads first, this made me rethink the entire thing and I realized maybe I was overthinking all of this. Thanks again :]
Nice video. Very close to my daily routine except a few. I don't do cm fractals, just t4+recs. I also don't do the strikes mainly just because of time. I do PSNA as you have listed below as it is fast for 2.5-3 gold/day. I also do matriarch as it is quick and one of my alt park spots. One you don't have listed is the sunken chest key. I get one daily and open the chests on the maps that have the PSNA agent on it which is 1-2/day. This maintain good efficiency/synergy for going to those maps. This is another ~0.5 gold/key or more if you look on fast farm.
Man, thank you for the tips. I guess my favorite gold making strat is saving up Mystic Coins then selling them when I see the prices above 1.60 lol. Terrible strat I know, but it's what I had before this video.
problem with fractal cm is you can only enter groups when you have ufe and nobody joins trainings runs for cms. so to run this content you must run this content befor or you have no chance for groups. same in raids and strikes with that LI/KP bullshit
i have found the most lucritive way to grind gold is fishing.. I make 150-200 gold a day when i knuckle down and grind out a full saturday in kourna... amberites sell for 1g90s on average, its not hard to catch 60 ot 70 leggies and then trade up the other fillets, get the 5 ambers then sell the rest as pinks.
Fishing is certainly surprisingly competitive, stacking up pretty well with the best open world farms and only losing handily to fractals and more involved gold makers like crafting and flipping. The only major weakness is that its profit is mostly tied to ambergris, which could drop in price in a year or 2 if demand for gen 3 legendaries drops. For now at least, enjoy it! I've thought about making a video about fishing, but it would take a lot of willpower on my end, as I don't particularly enjoy it. I'd probably sooner close the game and do household chores than start fishing, but that's just me. I should probably suck it up and work on a fishing video...
Im sorry i know you might have made loads of gold doing these things but im lucky if i make 10g in 4 hours. I'm all asended spec and mainly run fractals with 124 agony resistance and I still don't make up this 40g per hour. 2 gold per day from daily login how do you get that? im lucky if i make 500 silver + how do you make 40 gold for fractals an hour I'm teir 3 in fractals at the moment working my way up but I'm lucky if I make 10 gold for 4 hours and that's including dailies and recs.
If you're running tier 3s, you're still missing out on the extra loot from tier 4 and for all 3 daily CMs. Generally speaking, tier 3 is also the worst spot in fractal progression for getting competent party members and completing fractals in a timely fashion (you can ask other fractal players, most will agree with that assessment). Once you reach tier 4, the difficulty goes up a good bit, but the competency of players goes up a lot more. CMs and T4s with a solid group will likely not take over 90 minutes. Maybe add another 15 if you can keep those people around for recs. You're also likely not accounting for the value of account-bound currencies like spirit shards and fractal relics, as well as materials that you're getting. My "How Gold Works" video starts off by covering the difference between "total gold value" and the number you see in your wallet. This is an important distinction to make between guild wars 2 and some other games you may have played previously. Daily logins provide value in several forms. Some are easy to see, like bags of crafting materials, and Mystic Coins. Some are a bit more involved, like laurels or spirit shards, where you need to follow a couple additional steps to get the value out of them. And then the Mystic Clovers from the 28 day chest are the most involved. You'll only receive the gold value for those when you actually craft a legendary, whether it's to bind or sell for profit.
i have comback to gw2 after years. My loved main character is an elementalist. It makes me sad when i see that there is no fratal build for the elementalist on the website you linked :(
Elementalists function best in idealistic settings with pre-made groups. You can always play stuff that isn't super super meta, especially just for general daily stuff, but you'll at least want to get a legitimate build from Snowcrows.
My friends and I just got back into this game, some for the first time. I didn't know what i was doing back then but im starting to learn now. we need a guild to join and learn how to do everything you just mentioned here. Any guilds out there helping new players?
Well first, let me say welcome! There's a lot of things you CAN learn about the game even if very few things are required to actually have a good time playing. I thoroughly recommend the following community for both new and returning players: www.gw2university.com/ There's a very active discord, in-game guilds and content runs for both NA and EU servers, and a lot of great people. There's plenty of resources and answers to almost any question you have about the game.
The Guard [TG] would love to have you. We do fractal trainings raid trainings, infusion trains and meta trains as well as boss trains. We have events 7 days a week. Message me in game at Kindynn.8741
My only problem is that I need to make ascended gear for fractals and every other stuff. So then I will be able to make way more money on fractals. Sadly I can only make fractals up to lvl 40 but there is my cap because i will need more agony resistance at this point.
ascended jewellery and backpack are quite easy to get and you can attune and infuse rings for more agony resistance slots. Also some ascended weapons aren’t that hard to get, look into the caladbolg achievement (you can get a shield, greatsword, scepter, dagger or sword from it) also the elite specialisations aren’t that expensive mostly
Do not buy discounted keys early on. If you do fractals for a month(30 days), you'll spend 900 fractal relics on deeply discounted keys. It is very often not worth it. Basically I'd would suggest staying away from those until you're doing all CMs(you gain significantly more relics each day), have all the unlimited potions and feel like fractal relics are not a bottleneck anymore for account buffs.
I guess that comes down to if you value gold or not. I think most players would prefer consistent rewards to committing to such a long progression system. You can also do both.
@@abree107 do the math, you are loosing almost nothing in terms of liquid gold doing this but it makes your relic stack almost not growing if not doing cms. It's a new player scam. (deeply) Discounted encryption keys are only good for people who have passed a certain cap in fracs where they are waiting to stock up pristines/pages for later fractal god titles or backpack :/. There is lot of commonly accepted things in gw2 that are bs and it's one of them.
@@nathanielnizard2163 The vast majority of players don't care about fractal title progression. Most people convert their pristines and deeply discounted keys are only 30 relics per day, which is only 2 pristines. Even in t3s that's very sustainable. I'd leave it up to them to decide instead of assuming that you know what everyone wants. If there's anything I've learned, it's that a lot of people play this game with a way different mindset to me. I personally don't think the second 30 keys are worth the profit they currently provide, despite me having fractal God and pots already, but many people disagree. At the end of the day, there's no objectively correct answer.
@@abree107 Ty for your answers but I'm pretty sure about what I'm saying, doesn't mean I hold universal truth, I know it's a bit "unpopular opinion" but I really stick to it.
Ley-Line Anomaly was not included for a few reasons. It's on a timer, so you have to plan around it compared to the rest of the methods, which can all be done pretty much any time. It's also decreased in value by almost half in the past year due to Mystic Coins dropping in price. People also tend to think only of the 2ish minutes they spend doing the event and not the several minutes they'll spend finding a map or not being able to do something else because they're waiting for the event timer to roll around, so it is a bit less efficient than most people give it credit for. That being said, it's wildly popular, mostly because it's conceptually very easy and accessible to do. I personally find it a bit boring and unsatisfying, but that's just me. If you like doing it, go right ahead. There's more than a few ways to earn gold in this game and nobody should feel obligated to do something they don't enjoy. It is a game after all.
cool i didnt know about the parking spots I only do daily's, fractals and home instances cause i only have 2-3 hours to play each day and i enjoy fractals more that strike
Farms video coming soonTM. Based on my track record it would be due November 2023... but hopefully we can do a bit better than that. I need to spend some time researching to figure out what the gold value would look like in the future when prices of EoD items stabilize. I value consistency a lot more than those "works this month only" GW2 videos. :P
Fun Fact!! I just happen to be strolling my achievements and noticed I had a title achievement named "Golden". This is only obtained by having 2 million gold on your account. This is how I found out my account was hacked after years of not playing.
Wow, In previous videos, I noticed you had 149K, and in this one, down to 90K. The most I've ever accumulated in this game is 2K, but I'm always below 2K. I dont play PVP, WvW or Fractals so I guess that explains it for me :)
This was one of my first videos, so gold value may be different. In general, if you see my gold drastically increase or decrease, it's due to me buying or selling a lot of investments.
@@abree107 its quite the achievement :) When the game launched I had no experience in MMO's or the market. Some kind person gave me 5 gold. I turned that into 100 and eventually 2K but I cant seem to grow it more then that, the markets that I was playing with got over saturated and dried up. I just stumbled onto your channel while looking up Blish HUD and went down a rabbit hole of guides :)
@@muhammadbilalkhan9870 Well PvP/WvW reward tracks give a variety of rewards. Some items you can sell directly, others you can salvage, and others you can use in crafting so you won't need to buy them. Login rewards are all over the place. Some things, like merchant expresses are basically worthless. Other things like Mystic Coins and crafting material bags have pretty apparent value. Tomes of knowledge can be consumed for spirit shards which can then be used for profit with material promotions in the Mystic Forge. My "How Gold Works" video has a diagram that explains the different forms of gold in the game. It's not all "gold" in the traditional sense and that's actually a good thing. It helps us avoid the spiral of inflation you'd find in RS3, WoW, or any other older MMO.
Yes, but there's obviously more going into that than just this daily gold routine, which is why there's other videos on this channels for some of the other ways I've obtained that gold.
If you're doing all of that, you're probably earning a fair bit more. Don't forget to value in wallet currencies like spirit shards and all your materials that can be converted to gold. Also make sure you aren't instant selling or that will drastically reduce your number.
I earn on average 100-140 gold a day from fishing in lions arch, no hostile mobs = no distractions, and plentiful legendary fish means easy profit quickly.
Yea hot tip the fastest way to make gold is to be employed and put a few hrs of that paycheck to buying gems and buying gold from that. At $15usd per hour it’s 215g per hour. Don’t grind content you don’t enjoy.
This is Minion of Terror. Nice to see this video that you have been working on for a while. I am trying to remember the conversation we had on what could be added in this video. i know we talked about specific alt parking spots. but i can understand why you ended up saying that alt parking is a thing but end up not giving a specific spot everybody should go. I could see that you really did try to give as much information as you can in as little as time as possible. More information is always good but if the video is to long i know most people who need it will not watch.
@amirrajablo3743 I'm not sure I understand the question. If you're asking about the first entry in the video, login rewards, that's been replaced by the wizards' vault. It'll take a little bit longer to complete, but you'll get more gold value from it than the old systems.
I'd argue to just play the game how you want and buy gold when needed. I was doing daily T4s for a few weeks, and sure its great money.. But it becomes a chore so fast when you're doing a routine thing each day.
It always depends on the person. For me, I'd sooner quit the game completely than buy gold just because it would leave me with nothing to do that I like. But it supports the game and its continued development so you'll never see me say anything against it. I do think some players forget that for gems to be worth a decent amount of gold, there has to be a counterparty buying the gems, so someone has to be earning gold organically. The gem exchange has slight delays in its updates, but it actually works quite similarly to the trading post, so gems would be half the price they are now pretty quickly with nobody buying them with their gold. The game is also just popular in a lot of countries where buying gems isn't feasible for people. Either way, something something circle of life.
I agree that for some players, buying gems and converting them to gold, so they can just play the way they want to, is a good option. I haven’t ever converted gems to gold, but I have bought some gems with in game gold, when I wanted a certain item in the gem store. I don’t mind buying gems occasionally either, because I enjoy the game and want to support Arenanet.
@@traveling.down.the.road56 I found in my 20s I was happy to grind. But now in my 30s times more precious haha so to log on and have fun vs weeks of grinding. An easy option for me. Plus it's fun to play other games too :)
Before watching this video, I would skip the daily login and go straight to warping across the world map repeatedly with no purpose in mind. After watching this video, I don't skip the daily login anymore.
I would love to see a content maker , actually take you through the steps of actually collecting the gold. Even if it meant two vids on completing it. To many CM's go and talk way to fast. Just my opinion
As interesting as that might be for a few people, unfortunately the vast majority of people hate things going into that much detail. I figure the [Fast] site offers enough in the way of itemizing the gold income from an activity for most people. I just avoid referencing the parts of the site with inaccurate figures or low sample sizes and I think that's a good compromise between detail and simplicity. I had people tell me even 7 minutes was too long and I'm pretty sure the only way I could've made this shorter would have been providing 0 actual info about the methods. The other problem with itemizing some of these things is the profit is an average. Your CM + T4 profit may be 38ish most days and then you'll drop a 20 stack ascended salvage kit and that will put that 1 day much higher. Your DWC donations may not get you any rewards back one day and then might give you the chest with clovers in it the next day, just because of how the commendation counts work out and the randomness of how many good exchanges are available each day. I will say every gold value in this video was something I tracked and compared values from when I conceptualized the video 17 months ago and when I actually made it. They're all pretty accurate and consistent. The only one that I really just said "screw it" with was the 1g from converters. Using only the 2 in the video puts you below 1g, using 4-5 like many veterans do gives you over 1g. I didn't feel like it was worth spending time going into all those stipulations.
I have deleted thousands of the ascended resources that you can spend in the gleam of sentience item over the years. Without knowing it, I've probably thrown away a few hundred gold by doing that lol.
Not really that dramatic, I'm afraid. It's nice to use a converter to make a bit more space, but you really don't gain terribly much. If you're lucky you get a few mats that are worth something, the rest is just junk worth maybe 10 silver if you're lucky. If you spend the time you save from using a converter, to kill 4-5 mobs in say Dragonfall, your "loss" will be extremely marginal. Don't get me wrong, you do get a lucky exotic every once in a blue moon, but outside of that it's just "k, got the converter, got the materials, click the converter a bunch, oh it didn't eat as much as it could, store the converter, store the mats, recycle the stuff, sell the junk" to gain a silver.
In this video it would've been the firebrand build that was on the Discretize website at the time. I'm sure a few things have changed since then, but whatever they have on their site now will be current.
LFG can certainly be off-putting. I'd recommend asking in your guilds if there's people that can help you learn them. This community is also the best community I'm currently aware of for learning fractals: www.gw2university.com/ People are very supportive and helpful.
@@abree107 there’s a tutorial? I figured it out by clicking on stuff and also didn’t even know how to limit my dailies and weeklies to PvE until I saw a post about it on facebook XD but fair and all the other methods are still very good ones. And I do agree that the need reward system is much better
Directly farming raw gold in this game is not something that is possible to do in a large number of different ways. People commenting similar things is actually what led to me making my "How Gold Works" video, which includes an explanation of the differences between raw gold, liquid gold, and total gold value. Guild Wars 2 is a little different from other games, and people who have trouble making gold usually have trouble because they're not clear on the differences between those 3 classifications of gold. Once they've understood that, it's easy for most people to see potential gold income in all sorts of ways in the game.
Yeah, completely lost the point of the entire video on the "haha, just do t4 cms daily" part. That is not and will never be a "consistent" source of income for 95% of the player base. Setting up a character that can even run such high fractals takes immense amounts of gold. I don't care how worth that investion is in 2 years of constant daily fractals. Not to mention that "easy way to get into instanced content" with the easy 3, being in the same video as "do the hardest instanced 5-man content in the game" is just ludicrous. If you do not have a completely dedicated static, you will not do these every day or you will have to suffer through finding a group that actually does it, then suffer through the bickering/regrouping/nagging etc. And it really doesn't help, that this kinda video pushes the view that fractals are the way to go, so people who wanna try them, bump into the 5% (that kinda often contains assholes) and then they just lost all their gold on a tiny stat increase of their armor and 150 stat points that do nothing, while getting frustrated with group content that's governed by those who don't want them there. The only people doing daily cms are the ones that don't need the money and haven't needed it in a long time.
I get your point, but as I said, I encourage people to give them a try and see if they like them before fully committing to anything. I've seen plenty of players try fractals and then fully gear a character in a couple weeks with the gold they make from T1-T3 dailies, start doing T4s + CMs, and become really good players. I've also seen people decide it's not for them and move to doing other things, options which will be covered in future videos. The greatest number of players I've seen are the ones that avoid giving fractals an honest try because veterans tell them that it's toxic or out of their reach. They CAN do it and a lot of new players I've talked to are super into it when it's shown to them without all the negative stigmas attached. Experienced fractal players generally do want more people to get into fractals. The thing that most find annoying is when people come in to higher tier fractals with little-no experience because they skipped the whole learning stage. Toxicity definitely is a real thing, but that's why we have guilds and training runs. I'm happy to recommend (and have recommended in the comments) a good community for new players interested in learning fractals in a positive environment. From a gold-making perspective, the fact is that there's no daily-gated reward that can match it and it's a really good goal to strive to, whether you go from scale 1 to 100 CM in 1 week or 1 year. You make back your gold in ~9-10 days and from then on it's just profit. The value absolutely is there for people who care to seek it out. For the rest, there's all the other options and more coming with future videos. These are, for the most part, the "best" daily gold makers based on time-efficiency, not the "easiest".
When I want gold in GW2, first i sell all my mats / skins / anything that sells that I don’t need for a current project. Then, when I run out, I swipe and buy the rest of the gold xD
all the new players playing this game doing these "apparent gold making" content, will do this and end up with 5+ gold and wonder why that is. well ill tell you, its because what he means by liquid gold, is that it is materials that you want to save or resources that can be spent to buy things that can be sold, he doesn't literally mean making gold, contrary to what his video name is which in a way is a lie.
Very few things give you raw gold in any appreciable quantity. Selling items for gold when needed is pretty central to GW2 and is why the game hasn't experienced the inflationary spirals that other MMOs have. Perhaps a video about how gold works in the game wouldn't go amiss.
I'm curious, as a new player looking specifically to raise enough gold for my griffin/skyscale, why are all of these supposed "best" or "fastest" gold guides literally packed to the gills with activities that have almost zero impact on your actual current gold count? Yes, I understand the whole "building your account" mantra and the long-term effects of such trains of thought. But we, being most new/broke players, don't go searching for "best gold guides" etc etc for a lesson in Wall Street. We aren't looking at our currencies/materials like stocks and bonds. We want you to get straight to the point with pure, shiny, liquid gold making activities. Period. What can we do TODAY that will make gold TODAY. Not in a month, year, decade like some hedge fund manager.
Your daily achievemenfs and even low tier fractals both let you make steady, but maybe slow progress towards those goals. Skyscale is a lot more time dependent than gold dependent. If you're not sure which one to start with, definitely do that one first. Griffon is much faster, but quite literally several times more expensive and it's also just not as versatile. Thematically speaking, dailies TEND to be more of a progressive thing. If you're looking for raw gold and you want to just smash that out ASAP, I'd suggest looking for a farm you like and just listing all the materials on the trading post until you get what you need for griffon. You'll be taking a small hit on your gold per hour doing it that way, but if you really want to do it as fast as possible then that's your best bet. There is also bauble farming that gives mostly raw gold if you can find a group for it. If you don't care about the skins they offer, doing your Dragon Bash dailies and choosing the 5 jorbreaker option every 5 days from the chest you get will also make a huge dent in your gold needs. Even if you decide you want those skins, the coffers and zhaitaffy alone add up quite a bit and you can sell those to have an immediate gold source that's accessible and half decent. Obviously that option expires, but it's really good for your situation. At the end of the day, the economy is set up quite a bit differently in GW2 compared to other games, which is why you're finding stuff that lacks quicker routes to gold than a lot of other games do. My approach as someone who enjoys trying gold-making methods and teaching others about it is to share the "best" options available within the constraints of what they enjoy about the game, not necessarily easiest or fastest. Plenty of gold guides will tell you to "just do octovine" because it's piss easy, but it will take AGES to accumulate gold doing that. No harm if it works for people, but it's definitely not efficient and people can definitely make more while still enjoying the game. There's no clout or money in making GW2 content and if it wasn't obvious already, I can go on for ages about this stuff. I do it because I like it, so feel free to comment questions or DM me on discord (abree107#7791).
Honorable mentions to do if you like them:
- Daily Meta Events (Octovine, Ley-Line Anomaly etc.)
- Purchasing Pact Scout Mapping Materials
- Dungeons
- EoD Strikes
- Open-World Node Farms
- Exchanging a Specific Rare Fish with Taro Everclaw for a Chunk of Ancient Ambergris each day
These were excluded from the video primarily based on lack of efficiency, but if you enjoy them then they can all still give a small chunk of additional loot every day.
Or farm dust 10-20g depends your speed and dust prices (branded mobs about lvl 35-55 not much different).
For the Open-World node id like to do the flax and blooming passiflora nodes once per day. Roughly 3 gold.
I like farming Tequatl for gold. It spawns 6 times a day at specific times, takes about 15 minutes to kill, and you get 1g for killing it with each character once a day, and an exotic chest with 1g for each account once a day, plus a bunch of items to sell. You can check specific times at the wiki under Event Timers.
I like the Mapping Materials although it can be just the slightest bit tedious because you're opening up the wiki to check locations but if 40 are used to complete a map that gives the 44 shiny baubles it equates to slightly less than 2g per day spent or roughly 6s per 1000 karma.
For noobs or non gw2 players, note that not all the rewards or drops mentioned here mean liquid gold. Rewards are crafting materials, gear loot, currencies etc. It's a very rough estimate of its value into gold
@@eroll2 yea so lets say you open a chest and it gives you 3 unidentified blues, and 2 unidentified greens, that's like 6-7 silver if you sell it on the TP. Or you earn a type of currency- you spend it to buy a bag of materials, then you sell the materials for gold on the TP. It's can be convoluted, but its intentional for the health of the game economy.
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Short and clear video I've been trying to get back into the game and this is a good start to finally getting my griffon gold, thumbs up
this video was actually great and as someone just now dipping into Endgame stuff I actually didnt know you should buy the daily fractal keys. i didnt even know u could buy them.
The wonderful part about that one is that if the keys ever go down in value, the encryptions will go up making fractals more worth doing. There's no way that the overall gold value of fractals ever goes down very much because of that inverse relationship.
52 out of the 70 gold come from group content (strikes and fractals) and I suspect high level fractals. Most people don't engage in this content, let alone daily. The remaining 18 gold are about selling stuff you get from various places, but if you are crafting exotic (celestial for example) or ascended items for example you would need a lot of these materials. If you craft legendary items you will need your spirit shards, etc.: my point is those items will only give you as much gold if you're not crafting stuff but rather will save you gold instead. So although it's a good video, I feel that it's not really that useful for most players. Not a criticism, but just an observation.
Absolutely true. Most players don't engage in the content. A lot of the point I'm trying to illustrate is more players should at least give the content a real try instead of writing it off as too inconvenient or difficult. Brand new players will still be able to get over 10 gold just doing easy strikes and fractals.
As far as needing many of the items for building your account, I'd actually look at that as a positive. The profit is in your account and you could use it for anything, but the best thing for your gold-making long-term as a newer player is to reinvest the first gold you earn into things like gear. The even better part is the gold cited for each activity here assumes you're selling the product and incurring the 15% TP tax. If you actually use the materials yourself, the margins of profit can be significantly larger. In the case of celestial exotics it's actually a huge difference, because players almost always instant buy and the gear can be really expensive compared to the crafting price. You're definitely right in saying that newer players will only see a small portion of this gold going into their wallet if they make those decisions, but they'd otherwise have to earn even more gold to replace these items by buying them and it doesn't take very long to meet all those needs and start pocketing all the profit.
All that said, I realize this is more of a developmental process than a lot of players are wanting to deal with, but there's little I can do to change that attitude once people are set on it, other than show them the other 40ish gold they're missing out on. The next video will go over some of the options players have if they choose to lock themselves out of the ones in this video, or if they really want to progress faster than they can starting out with just daily gold.
Yea I've been playing this game pretty casually since launch. The most gold I've ever had is 400g from just doing exclusively PvP and selling everything I received. When I decided I wanted to start crafting a legendary that gold quickly went to 0 because I had to buy all the mats I had sold.
@@paintl3gz That was very much my life for the longest time; I actually had built towards Twilight for like 7 years.
What helped me out, tho, wasn't trying to lose braincells bruteforcing fractal cms with dicks, but rather just chill fishing and doing some routine metas. Do this meta here, that meta there; maybe one day you feel like gathering some stuff and at others you pick up some pact materials.
The variety helps a lot with not burning out. And after I got Twilight, I kinda got Vision just by fishing my way toward the fishing title (which got me like 800g through all the fish). Then I finished Aurene's sword and Astralaria just recently; also funded by fishing.
Just dip your toes into different things and do the stuff that is most fun to you. If it's pvp, do that. If it's crafting stuff and slowly selling it, do that. If you find a particular meta super fun, just do that a lot.
have to admit i've made most of my gold recently by not crafting as much,
@@paintl3gz I’ve been playing GW2 since shortly after launch and the most gold I’ve ever been able to keep in my wallet was just over 2000. When I began crafting Legendary weapons, my wallet went back down to just under 1000 gold and then I built it back up to about 1500, before I was ready to craft my 2nd Legendary weapon. Now I have crafted 16 Legendary weapons and I’m almost ready for number 17, with my wallet at 912 gold and I’ll need to buy about half of the needed tier 6 materials, so my gold will drop to maybe 550 to 600, but I find that I can build it back up to close to 1,000 gold by the time I’m ready to craft another Legendary weapon. Now I must start working on Legendary armor and trinkets, so that might drop my gold further than normal, but I think you get my point.
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Long awaited Abree gold guide finally on TH-cam
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Very long indeed
You presented this so well. Looking forward to your next guides. Thanks.
It's more or less the routine I try to do. But for dailies I go for the 3 fastest ones . Usually end up being 2 pve (gathering and vistas) and one wvw (big spender, master of monuments). Worthy of note is that when Daily Mystic Forger is up, it's a must do whenever you did other dailies or not
Yep, this is exactly what I have been doing for years! Easy 2 gold in 15 minutes and sometimes it only takes a few minutes depending if it's really easy ones lol
Note: If you're into long-term fractal rewards, you may want to not buy fractal encryption keys with fractal relics.
Just open the fractal relics with the keys you get dropped and sell the other encryption on the TP.
This will give you a bit less gold but allows you to save fractal relics faster. Top-tier fractal rewards like everlasting potions and permanent account upgrades will cost tens of thousands fractal relics.
Id also like to mention that you can buy gathering tools for karma, which give you bonus or different materials
One correction: you will get bumped up to lvl80 when you enter fractals, so you can start doing Tier 1 fractals whenever you like. I do weekly newbie tutorial runs for guildies and we often have one or more
True. Level 80 isn't TECHNICALLY a requirement, but most people won't be as accommodating and helpful as it sounds like you are.
Kinda true. LFG groups usually expect some competence for fractals (and that's understandable), but I'd say that the biggest recommendation I have for any player is to find a good guild for yourself.
Even if you're sure you'll never participate in any group activity (like I was until 1.5 years ago), just joining a guild doesn't mean you have to. And if you find a good guild, it might happen that you suddenly find yourself participating on things and finding totally new ways to enjoy the game. And who knows, maybe even friendships that'll last for the rest of your life ❤️. Or not, but even in that case you lost nothing by joining. Especially when you can be in up to 5 guilds at the same time :)
(eg on my guild there's almost always ppl willing to join if someone asks for fractal or dungeon run. Be it T4 fractals or story mode dungeons. My newbie tutorials are just meant to encourage new players to take that first step into a content that many find intimidating before trying it. Usually after that they're happily joining on the random guildie groups :))
@ Thumbs up for the best advice for all new players in GW2! Joining a good guild is (IMHO) the most important thing a new player can do.
something that can be really nice for gathering home instance or guild halls and other such things is if you can do it on a build that give yourself quickness out of combat that can make it a lot faster to do, herald is the easiest for this, there is a lot of quickness sources that require an enemy for you to attack to get quickness like berserker or deadeye need an enemy but there's probably sources I'm forgetting since there's a lot of skills to go through and i only remember what traits give group quickness
Master Diver is one I recommend, easy 6g in ~10m. Great video though!
There was so much info, thanks! Just getting back into the game and this pointed me in the right direction!
that is 30 gold less then the time where silverwastes was good and i was farming it whole day every day and getting 100 gold per day more or less and because consume all was not a thing i ended up breaking 2 mouses over the time from clicking all those bags it was 1k bags a day and if i ever have to farm this game again am gonna throw up
If you want to count farming in, hundreds per day is definitely doable. But that's another video.
The best way to make gold is to max out your masteries in core Tyria + all expansions so you get spirit shards every time you level up. Do this ASAP. Save up enough gold to make a legendary weapon. You can either do the precursor collection or buy a precursor to make the legendary & sell it on the TP. Rinse & repeat. Now you'll have enough gold to flip items on the TP. Bid on items that have a big gap between the bid & buyout. It costs you nothing to bid & you can always cancel it & get your gold back. If you play it smart you can make a ton of gold this way
Don't forget the 15% fee when you put an item to sell on the bazar.
Videos on flipping and Legendary Crafting for profit coming in the future...
What award give me doing now 100/99/98 CM Fractals when it not in daily ?
This is tuned for me but I have a friend that get on daily with me so we do:
- pvp 30 silver win, 15 silver loss so about three or so matches
- HoT hero champ run since we are good enough to duo Champs
- Daily ascended craft to sell
- Ez Strikes
- Bjora Ice Gather Route
We make between 20-30g depending how things are selling. It's consistent, simple, and doesn't require us to dedicate hours even though he has a fully leggy character geared out and I have full ascended with one leg weapon
Wow, thanks for the video. This is exactly the helpful and up to date information I was looking for
If the guilds have different synthesis output levels you can do multiple halls. I'm in a guild alliance with our alt guilds and we have 3. Island, lost, and gilded halls. Keep the heart of maguuma daily on ez mode and extra mats.
How do I find a guild list like yours? I'm a daily player, albeit a new player, and active and could really use the help and resources.
Thanks for the resume, that’s more that si usually do with my 20 gold with three Dragonfall metas xd .
I appreciate your willingness to help but I must say that video's title is quite misleading. Only around 15g (max) of those 70 is actually available to all players:
-Fracs and IBS strikes both require organized groups and T4s also require full asc gear + expensive AR. And the strikes + drizzle require IBS which is purchased with gems;
-T1s can be done with exo gear but either way it still requires an organized group (can take a lot of time to find on LFG) and profit is A LOT lower than T4s;
-Alt parking requires having lots of alts (which most people don't have);
-Daily crafting requires high lvl crafting (not everyone is 400+);
-Home instance requires waiting for someone with a 'good soul', full home and is willing to share. In the video you say it's "easy" but according to my experience this can literally take hours;
-Guild nodes can be more or less profitable, if it's a low level guild (like most guilds) you won't be getting more than a few silver out of it;
-Converters are available to everyone, given you have the time and patience to finish those collections. Some of them collections are quite annoying to finish and profit per day is under 1g;
-Daily login and achiev: those ones are available for all players, but login specially is not always profitable. E.g: when you're awarded bag of luck, transmute charges, acc bound gear or xp boosters (yes, I understand that all those are nice to have but we're talking about GOLD).
Day 1 you might be correct. But I've seen people go from freshly hitting level 80 to accessing everything on this list within 2 weeks several times. Not everyone is going to be that motivated, but the point remains that the process of unlocking these isn't super exclusive. CMs + T4s take the longest to unlock, but if you're putting your earnings toward a set of ascended gear it doesn't take more than like 2-3 weeks to gear.
Joining a large guild will readily give access to guild nodes and usually several players with full home instances.
If players want gold to just appear in their accounts for doing 1 or 2 metas that they sit at and auto attack a few times, they're going to be disappointed. There's plenty of people out there telling new players to do that as THE way to make gold. What I hope to achieve on this channel, if nothing else, is showing players there are MANY ways to make gold and that a lot of ways exist that can help them more than what casual players tell them to do, coming from someone who has more experience with gold-making than 99.99% of players. I'm actually really happy to hear that some new players have watched this, noticed they only have access to 10 or 20 or 30 gold/day with this right now, and taken the opportunity to set goals to unlock all these methods. The most depressing thing to me about just recommending octovine is that most of the players I see following that sort of advice quickly stop logging in every day because they're either bored and unable to find goals for themselves in the game OR they're demotivated by how slowly they're progressing with those methods.
The easy way of doing things often leads to inferior results. That doesn't mean all of this is for everyone, but I'd hope more new players give a legitimate try to things like Fractals instead of being discouraged by veteran players who had a bad experience 2 years ago in T3 LFG, haven't gone back since, and talk loudly about it whenever someone mentions the content. At the end of the day the title says "BEST" and not "EASIEST". The next video will be more oriented towards open-world players, but you've actually given me an idea for a "best gold makers without living story episodes video" so cheers for that.
T1's are not all that hard. I am speaking as a fairly new player....only been playing this game for a little over a year and started learning fractals towards the end of last year. I did manage to solo one T1 (after about an hour and a half and maybe 5 or 6 deaths haha) it was Chaos, so I can speak from experience that T1's do not require a full group, just a bit of coordinating....and maybe a couple of friends for fun! Oh and yes, that was with 0 AR.
@@vicki1460 Soloing any group content is hard, and if you manage to do it either way it is going to take a lot of time. That means bad g/h ratio even if you succeed. However if you're doing it as a personal achiev then I can understand 100%! Otherwise I wouldn't consider it as effective farming. Not to mention T1's give a lot less loot than T4's and most of it comes from daily reward chests. So it's either get a group (good luck with that) and do all the daily ones or don't even bother with them...
@@wellingtonclayton5628 I think they said that to illustrate that t1 fractals aren’t that hard
When I started gw 2 I took me about 1 week to start doing fractals. In 1 month I was able to clear t2's already and eventually few months after that I cleared cm 100. I was doing raids once I got my first ascended set (which isnt that hard to get really, just do fractals) and learned how to tank as a chronomancer.
Tadaa 8 months in when I crafted my first legendary armor pieces + 2 legendary weapons.
Raids and fractals are accessable to anybody if you are willing to learn. Most people arent, they think they know everything, quit when they day and start moaning how raiding/fractal community is toxic. Its not, its very welcomming if you are willing to listen and learn.
I got like 180 mastery points yet still have full set of legendary armor right now ^^
Thank you for this, I started a week ago and I already have 50+ gold :D
Can someone please explain what is meant by fractal keys being profitable?... Do you/can you/should you sell the fractal keys on the TP directly? Do you/should you sell Fractal Encryptions on the TP, crack them first then sell them or do you open them yourself? Should I be buying Fractal Encryptions from the TP and using my own keys on to open them? I'm clearly a bit confused by how to interpret the [fast] farm site on this one.
Keys are not tradeable. The second table on the [Fast] site is what you want to look at. Those are the profits if you buy order encryptions from the TP and open them with keys acquired by the methods listed on the table.
The following assumptions are made: you don't instabuy, you don't instasell, and you have the mastery required to get the maximum loot from the encryptions.
For most players, they'll have to buy order some of the encryptions because they'll get keys faster. Open what you get, buy what you need to open the rest. Periodically reference the page to make sure nothing has changed drastically.
@@abree107 Ahh, this clears it up! Thank you :)
If the guild halls are in different maps you can farm in every one. only same zone guild hall are exclusive.
What is that 2nd weapon the soul beast is using, not the longbow. It was putting up big numbers. Also what gear stats/runes?
It's sword/axe with berseker and scholar runes, but that's going to be out of date at this point. It's whatever the snowcrows/discretize builds were at the time, so go to the snowcrows website and see what they've got for power soulbeast now.
Doing the daily fractals each day has noticeably increased my goldmaking
just as a heads up, most alt parking spots either require ridiculous achievements or a skyscale/griffon or both. Don't give most of those a try unless you're ready to do either.
Thank you so much for that last tip of only opening encryptions with the mastery. I'm a new player and was confused on why i was losing money...
Do you know if i can save my keys and chests for now and only open them all after unlocking the mastery?
You most certainly can just save them. The items you obtain are identical, it's just what you get from them that will change.
I'd definitely recommend unlocking the fractal masteries before you unlock the legendary crafting ones. I think a lot of people give legendary crafting masteries unnecessary priority when you can still craft just about everything except gen 2 legendaries without the masteries.
@@abree107 I am very new so i'm still not even close to done unlocking autoloot mastery, haven't started on fractals masteries yet.
I will save them all and try to focus a bit more on mastery, thank you once again for the help!
i Dont understand the daily Login reward of 2 gold. Do you mean the daily quest reward? and what is "with glovers" mean?
Daily logins give you a variety of items, such as Mystic Coins, tomes of knowledge, bags of crafting materials, and Mystic Clovers. All of these have gold value. Some can be directly sold and others require more steps to extract value. "With clovers" is assuming you choose the Mystic Clovers option from the chest of loyalty on day 28 of the login calendar.
@@abree107 Thank you very much :)
Most daily parks are not that usefull (by example, I use reaping to gather all nodes, but it is recommended to use another one that provide something else and most of the daily reward seems to come from this.
Which spots do you use personnally? I have one on the 3 chests in Path of Fire, and all the others either on a chest in the frozen expansion, or on flax
Glyphs do add a significant amount to places with nodes. I do a couple of the Bjora Marches chests. I used to do others like that spot in crystal oasis, but now I use those characters for buying provisioner tokens because I value the future convenience more than the gold.
Please tell me where you see 40 gold for cms+t4s?? I usually get 20-25 max if I’m lucky. Please tell me where you’re getting 40 gold from? Also, are fractal recs also worth it?
On top of the more visible rewards, you also get 3 integrated fractal matrices, which can be traded for 30 keys if you're not going for account augmentations. You'll also drop a few rings, and occasionally ascended salvage kits and mystic coins from the daily chests, which have additional value. Fractals also give a pretty insane amount of experience, which yields spirit shards, which have a decent value as well. Then there's a bunch of materials including lodestones that you're probably just depositing and not thinking about. A surprising amount of value gets hidden away in your wallet and material storage. [Fast] has a fractal daily calculator on their site, but they have very few data sets for CMs and their numbers are actually lower than reality because they don't value in rings at their salvage value. They also don't value in fractal relics, but their value is sort of debatable so I support that decision. Currently, they value today's CMs at 39 gold. With the aforementioned adjustment, 40g is more than reasonable. If you value in relics, you could call in the value at even higher.
I'm not going to tell you recs are worth it by gold-per-hour standards compared to CMs or T4s, but they're not bad either. I personally did them up until the point where I got all the pages and pristine relics I needed and now I only do them if I'm playing with someone who needs them. If you enjoy fractals or need the account-bound rewards, for sure do them.
@@abree107 Wow thanks for the detailed reply, appreciate it! So I guess liquid gold wise it’s about 20 gold or so, but when you combine everything it’s about 40?
@@MoGaiinz "Liquid gold" refers to gold and anything that could be readily sold for gold, like materials. Typically people don't count wallet currencies into that and neither does GW2Efficiency. If I had to guess it's probably about 35 liquid and then 5 from currencies? I guess it also depends slightly on if you have the fractal empowerment upgrade unlocked, as that gives 0.1-0.4 spirit shards per fractal completed on top of the typical rewards. "Raw gold" refers to the actual gold in your wallet and 20 sounds about right after you've opened all the encryptions and sold the junk.
Long-term, liquid gold makes the most sense to look at with gold-making because those materials or items will generally either be sold into gold or used to craft items, which saves you the gold required to buy them. It can definitely seem like an invisible stat to a lot of players. The number of times I've had someone tell me how broke they are, then watch them register on Gw2Efficiency and see that they have 1000+ liquid gold in stuff chilling in their mat storage is actually just too many to count.
@@abree107 thanks bruh, clarified a lot 👍
This is a great video to recommend to others, thank you.
I play a lot solo & like farming methods that I can do alone. One of the things I find easy is the sunken treasure for swim speed infusions. For quick keys I hit caladon forest east then when I get a stockpile i do 4 sunken treasures per day getting me another key & a bit over 3 gold worth of items plus some non sellable loot.
This is a really good one if you can manage all the spots and key counts well. There may be a video eventually about repeatable solo farms, but on the current timetable with all the other videos I want to do it could be a really long time before that one gets made.
@@abree107 This also ties into the fractals because you autocomplete the daily key achievement in 98cm. So you get also 1 key per day from doing cms+t4.
Great video man cheers!
Buying the Discounted Fractal Encryption Keys, is it expected to buy the boxes too if you don't have 30 boxes to open and still make a profit?
This is assuming you're buying encryptions, yes. Obviously you want to get them from other players or buy order, not instant buy. The first 30 are pretty much always going to be worth doing. The next 30 kind of varies on pricing and what you consider worthwhile.
@@abree107 Got it, thanks!
Hold on, so what do you do with fractals? You didn't say what we are selling to make that gold or is it passive income
Well you should be buying some keys every day and opening the encryptions you get from doing the fractals, which is probably the most apparent portion of the profit.
Then you get a variety of materials that also add to it. You can either sell them or use them for your own crafting, the latter giving you a higher value if you can do it.
And the last portion of the profit comes in the form of items that aren't directly tradeable. You get spirit shards and fractal relics, which can be indirectly converted to gold. You also get ascended rings and ascended salvage kits, which you can use to get more stabilizing matrices. Those are quite valuable and can be used to buy additional fractal encryption keys. That's also not counting the karma you get, which admittedly doesn't contribute anything significant to the gold value, but is still nice to have.
High tier fractals are just so good for making gold.
I'm just amazed of how much content there is an I'm just yet to scratch the surface... To me my small amount of gold is just enough to play casually. I just like having a break inbetween here and there (Full time job and a parent). Are these farming methods necessary for the casual player?
You don't have to farm at all unless you want to. Pretty much every gold goal in this game is optional.
I'm thinking to get more active again this is basically what i used to do few months ago, is there nothing in EoD worthwile to do in terms of gold/hr on a daily basis?
Unfortunately, the random rare fish exchange with Taro Everclaw is probably the best thing and it requires you to already be doing a lot of fishing to be worthwhile. EoD's liquid gold rewards are a little on the low side, with most things focused on the jade bot or generation 3 legendaries. Unfortunately, the daily rewards are the most underwhelming part. At least it keeps old content useful!
I keep farming guild and home nodes. How do I know which materials should I sell? I never know.
Keep all of them until you know you don't need them. Selling and buying things back will almost always lose you money. There's still plenty of materials I get and have no clue if I need them or not. The instant gratification of selling stuff as you get it just isn't worth the losses when you need the stuff later.
Yup, keep everything until you educate yourself about what you need later and what you will likely never need for crafting later. I keep at least one stack of every cooking material in storage and sell the rest, just in case I need to craft foods in the future. Since I’m already at max jewelry crafting level, I sell most of the gem stones that I get, but there’s ways to upgrade or craft items with them that would make me more gold, so check out the possibilities before selling stuff.
As someone with over 5k hours in this game I agree with all of these poins mentioned. Also extra tips: If you dont care about Legends gen3 each week you can buy 5 Antique Summoning Stone and just insta sell them for easy 40g/week.(Requires maxed Arborstone mastery for that). Another point are raids, standard and well know wings like W1-4 can be cleared quickly and its nice additional gold. Dungeons are great if you can clear them really quickly - for actual profit from them you need to be really skilled. If you know you know. All those point arent even scratching the sufrace of making gold.
Converters, especially the ones that eat bloodstone dust/empyreal fragments will often lose you money vs crafting them into toxic maintenance oils/focusing crystals, etc.
Very true. If you have the other materials and the recipes required, looking into crafting items with them can be more profitable.
Thank you for this upload!!!
I have an question to open world farming. Everyone says that you can up to 30 gold in one hour with event maps like silver wastes and the one from the ice brood saga. I have already played this events many times but had never the feeling to get that much money from it. So what do you mean with 30 gold an hour? Do you mean that you get that from the materials that you get and sell when you disassemble armors and weapons or is it the money you make from selling rare weapons that you can get with a little chance that are worth something like 10 gold or more? I don't really get how you can make that much money with this map because even when I play an whole day on this map and make these events over 10 times in one day the best portion of money that I can make in this time and with this I mean 10 hour playtime is 30 Gold...
I'd advise watching my "How Gold Works" video. Typically gold per hour figures refer to total gold value, which includes materials and wallet currencies. I'd also advise making an account on gw2efficiency and referencing your liquid gold once or twice a day when you play. You might find the materials you're depositing are worth more than you'd think. I will say material prices are currently low, so you might end up receiving rates that are toward the low end of the ranges given in the video.
@@abree107 Ok thanks. I already have an Efficiency account but didn't know that you can see the flow rate of gold value.
@@psoldoy9847 The liquid gold on your account home page lets you keep track of the value of materials you've tucked away. Wallet currencies are really up to you to value. You'll see yourself gain liquid gold when you actually use wallet currencies for a profitable process.
Don’t under estimate the value of your materials, and never sell materials that you can use later to craft a Legendary item.
@@traveling.down.the.road56 I know. My tactic is to fill my my bank anf sell the leftoverst that I get when it can't fit in the bank anymore.
I'm running daily fractals and I'm earning 10-15g. How did you Calc 40g+?
Someone else asked a similar question so I'll repost my response to that. TLDR: 10-15g is about what you get in raw gold. 40g is about what you get in total liquid gold value, which includes the values of items and currencies that can be converted to gold.
On top of the more visible rewards, you also get 3 integrated fractal matrices, which can be traded for 30 keys if you're not going for account augmentations. You'll also drop a few rings, and occasionally ascended salvage kits and mystic coins from the daily chests, which have additional value. Fractals also give a pretty insane amount of experience, which yields spirit shards, which have a decent value as well. Then there's a bunch of materials including lodestones that you're probably just depositing and not thinking about. A surprising amount of value gets hidden away in your wallet and material storage. [Fast] has a fractal daily calculator on their site, but they have very few data sets for CMs and their numbers are actually lower than reality because they don't value in rings at their salvage value. They also don't value in fractal relics, but their value is sort of debatable so I support that decision. Currently, they value today's CMs at 39 gold. With the aforementioned adjustment, 40g is more than reasonable. If you value in relics, you could call in the value at even higher.
I suggest to add raiding to the list. That is between 60 and 100g per week. With a advanced group clear can be done in 3-4 hrs. Maybe quicker the more you and the group invests into hardcore gaming.
Raiding would be more in the theme of weekly vs. daily. A couple people have suggested doing a weekly video, but honestly I'm not sure how many other things there are besides raids. Formal petition for repeat raid rewards to be more than 5 blue unids.
How do you know if the 30 discounted fractal keys are worth it? Also is it still worth it if you have to buy extra fractal encryption boxes to use the keys?
The fast page linked in the description will show profits. You'll want to look at the second table on the page. As of the time of this comment, it's a bit over 1 silver profit per key for the 2nd set of 30. I personally don't consider that worth the hassle, but historically it's been as much as 5 silver per key for the 2nd 30. Make sure you're buy ORDERING the extra fractal encryptions instead of instant buying them though.
@@abree107 Thanks for the help and quick reply! Great video btw, very informative
I just got like 10 gold profit just for the discounted encryption keys lol thanks a lot !!!
Great advices overall thanks a lot :]
Been enjoying fractals a lot for "sure everyday decent gold", but still at t3 for a year now because t4 lfg itself looks really intimidating to me. Maybe one day.
Will try strikes and parking as you mentioned :]
Let me tell u from expirience t3 fracs are so much worse then t4.
Its the Limbo area where people dont fully optimize their builds or gear, yet the content is already "hard" enough to give u trouble without a propper healer.
Just do it and join a t4 Daily Run. On average t4 runs are way better simply because people teamcomp appropriatly. Whats the worst that could happen? Some random guy in a Video game dislike u and kicks u? Who cares really.
@@slashersoul2380 Don't get me wrong, I want to. But it feels like there's this weird gap between t3 and t4 like you go from normal stuff to pro league instantly and it looks like people expect you to be on their level right off the bat. LFG groups be like "need x/x/x".
I'm "only" dps. I know my stuff, yes. My logs are good. But t4 looks way too serious to me. I'm not going to fractals to mess aruond, but this is something else. I'll ask my guildies anyway
@@im_Dafox i see ur point and thats how i once felt about fractal cms. in the end though its just the next step on content. its nothing crazy or even close to pro league. like, if u check out any fractal speedruns, and compare that to your casual t4 lfg expirience u will laugh or cry, maybe both xD so ye, dont psyche urself out so much. u got this, and t4 is barely different from t3 if u discount the cms.
anyhow i wish u much success on ur t4 journey :)
edit: the fact that u even know logs exist shows ur waaaaay ahead of most "dps" players in t4 fractals trust me on this. (discounting cms again)
T4 fractals simply weed out the vast majority of players with "theorycraft builds" that are incredibly bad and sometimes even as useless as not having a 5th player. I used to be one of those useless party members, so I'm more than familiar with the transition. You still get plenty of them in T3. So the number of attempts required to clear in T4 groups is typically lower than in T3, despite the difficulty increase just because more people actually know what they're doing to a decent degree and so they'll make an actual composition. It makes things way easier than dealing with T3 groups where you're only getting 10 stacks of might, no alacrity, and no quickness because someone is playing rampager's druid.
If it makes you a little uncomfortable, doing them with guildies first is a great bet. I grinded out fractal god and I'm still "only" a dps player as well.
@@slashersoul2380 Thanks a lot for taking the time to share your experience and the words, really appreciate that. While I'm not going to jump in heads first, this made me rethink the entire thing and I realized maybe I was overthinking all of this.
Thanks again :]
fractals + and dailies for me, you're the best abree
I made over 40 gold doing 2 Auric Basin Octovine meta. Loot everything and Sell everything if you are not crafting and want gold.
Nice video. Very close to my daily routine except a few. I don't do cm fractals, just t4+recs. I also don't do the strikes mainly just because of time. I do PSNA as you have listed below as it is fast for 2.5-3 gold/day. I also do matriarch as it is quick and one of my alt park spots.
One you don't have listed is the sunken chest key. I get one daily and open the chests on the maps that have the PSNA agent on it which is 1-2/day. This maintain good efficiency/synergy for going to those maps. This is another ~0.5 gold/key or more if you look on fast farm.
Man, thank you for the tips. I guess my favorite gold making strat is saving up Mystic Coins then selling them when I see the prices above 1.60 lol. Terrible strat I know, but it's what I had before this video.
Unfortunately, I don't think Mystic Coins will ever make it that high again.
problem with fractal cm is you can only enter groups when you have ufe and nobody joins trainings runs for cms. so to run this content you must run this content befor or you have no chance for groups. same in raids and strikes with that LI/KP bullshit
A lot of guilds host training runs. Unfortunately, I don't know which ones do for EU.
i have found the most lucritive way to grind gold is fishing.. I make 150-200 gold a day when i knuckle down and grind out a full saturday in kourna... amberites sell for 1g90s on average, its not hard to catch 60 ot 70 leggies and then trade up the other fillets, get the 5 ambers then sell the rest as pinks.
Fishing is certainly surprisingly competitive, stacking up pretty well with the best open world farms and only losing handily to fractals and more involved gold makers like crafting and flipping. The only major weakness is that its profit is mostly tied to ambergris, which could drop in price in a year or 2 if demand for gen 3 legendaries drops. For now at least, enjoy it!
I've thought about making a video about fishing, but it would take a lot of willpower on my end, as I don't particularly enjoy it. I'd probably sooner close the game and do household chores than start fishing, but that's just me. I should probably suck it up and work on a fishing video...
As an editor/creator I know how much work this took to make! Well done sir!!🤩
Im sorry i know you might have made loads of gold doing these things but im lucky if i make 10g in 4 hours. I'm all asended spec and mainly run fractals with 124 agony resistance and I still don't make up this 40g per hour.
2 gold per day from daily login how do you get that? im lucky if i make 500 silver + how do you make 40 gold for fractals an hour I'm teir 3 in fractals at the moment working my way up but I'm lucky if I make 10 gold for 4 hours and that's including dailies and recs.
If you're running tier 3s, you're still missing out on the extra loot from tier 4 and for all 3 daily CMs. Generally speaking, tier 3 is also the worst spot in fractal progression for getting competent party members and completing fractals in a timely fashion (you can ask other fractal players, most will agree with that assessment). Once you reach tier 4, the difficulty goes up a good bit, but the competency of players goes up a lot more. CMs and T4s with a solid group will likely not take over 90 minutes. Maybe add another 15 if you can keep those people around for recs.
You're also likely not accounting for the value of account-bound currencies like spirit shards and fractal relics, as well as materials that you're getting. My "How Gold Works" video starts off by covering the difference between "total gold value" and the number you see in your wallet. This is an important distinction to make between guild wars 2 and some other games you may have played previously.
Daily logins provide value in several forms. Some are easy to see, like bags of crafting materials, and Mystic Coins. Some are a bit more involved, like laurels or spirit shards, where you need to follow a couple additional steps to get the value out of them. And then the Mystic Clovers from the 28 day chest are the most involved. You'll only receive the gold value for those when you actually craft a legendary, whether it's to bind or sell for profit.
i have comback to gw2 after years. My loved main character is an elementalist. It makes me sad when i see that there is no fratal build for the elementalist on the website you linked :(
Elementalists function best in idealistic settings with pre-made groups. You can always play stuff that isn't super super meta, especially just for general daily stuff, but you'll at least want to get a legitimate build from Snowcrows.
@@abree107 Thx for your response :)
My friends and I just got back into this game, some for the first time. I didn't know what i was doing back then but im starting to learn now. we need a guild to join and learn how to do everything you just mentioned here. Any guilds out there helping new players?
Well first, let me say welcome! There's a lot of things you CAN learn about the game even if very few things are required to actually have a good time playing. I thoroughly recommend the following community for both new and returning players: www.gw2university.com/
There's a very active discord, in-game guilds and content runs for both NA and EU servers, and a lot of great people. There's plenty of resources and answers to almost any question you have about the game.
The Guard [TG] would love to have you. We do fractal trainings raid trainings, infusion trains and meta trains as well as boss trains. We have events 7 days a week. Message me in game at Kindynn.8741
What's dress from start of video?
Twilight arbor medium armor
My only problem is that I need to make ascended gear for fractals and every other stuff. So then I will be able to make way more money on fractals. Sadly I can only make fractals up to lvl 40 but there is my cap because i will need more agony resistance at this point.
It's a process, but it doesn't take too terribly long if you're doing your daily runs and putting that gold toward gearing.
ascended jewellery and backpack are quite easy to get and you can attune and infuse rings for more agony resistance slots. Also some ascended weapons aren’t that hard to get, look into the caladbolg achievement (you can get a shield, greatsword, scepter, dagger or sword from it) also the elite specialisations aren’t that expensive mostly
Such a helpful video.
Great info specially for new comers to have some idea where they can get gold :D
Do not buy discounted keys early on. If you do fractals for a month(30 days), you'll spend 900 fractal relics on deeply discounted keys. It is very often not worth it. Basically I'd would suggest staying away from those until you're doing all CMs(you gain significantly more relics each day), have all the unlimited potions and feel like fractal relics are not a bottleneck anymore for account buffs.
I guess that comes down to if you value gold or not. I think most players would prefer consistent rewards to committing to such a long progression system. You can also do both.
@@abree107 do the math, you are loosing almost nothing in terms of liquid gold doing this but it makes your relic stack almost not growing if not doing cms. It's a new player scam. (deeply) Discounted encryption keys are only good for people who have passed a certain cap in fracs where they are waiting to stock up pristines/pages for later fractal god titles or backpack :/. There is lot of commonly accepted things in gw2 that are bs and it's one of them.
@@nathanielnizard2163 The vast majority of players don't care about fractal title progression. Most people convert their pristines and deeply discounted keys are only 30 relics per day, which is only 2 pristines. Even in t3s that's very sustainable.
I'd leave it up to them to decide instead of assuming that you know what everyone wants. If there's anything I've learned, it's that a lot of people play this game with a way different mindset to me. I personally don't think the second 30 keys are worth the profit they currently provide, despite me having fractal God and pots already, but many people disagree. At the end of the day, there's no objectively correct answer.
@@abree107 Ty for your answers but I'm pretty sure about what I'm saying, doesn't mean I hold universal truth, I know it's a bit "unpopular opinion" but I really stick to it.
Surprised you didn’t add leyline which is a super quick event and gives you a mystic coin and other stuff that typically adds up to 2 gold
Ley-Line Anomaly was not included for a few reasons. It's on a timer, so you have to plan around it compared to the rest of the methods, which can all be done pretty much any time. It's also decreased in value by almost half in the past year due to Mystic Coins dropping in price. People also tend to think only of the 2ish minutes they spend doing the event and not the several minutes they'll spend finding a map or not being able to do something else because they're waiting for the event timer to roll around, so it is a bit less efficient than most people give it credit for.
That being said, it's wildly popular, mostly because it's conceptually very easy and accessible to do. I personally find it a bit boring and unsatisfying, but that's just me. If you like doing it, go right ahead. There's more than a few ways to earn gold in this game and nobody should feel obligated to do something they don't enjoy. It is a game after all.
cool i didnt know about the parking spots
I only do daily's, fractals and home instances cause i only have 2-3 hours to play each day and i enjoy fractals more that strike
I‘m fine with 25-30 Gold per day just by farming materials and do my daily tasks 😂
You forgot Leviathan Farm xD “enjoy while it last folks”
Farms video coming soonTM. Based on my track record it would be due November 2023... but hopefully we can do a bit better than that.
I need to spend some time researching to figure out what the gold value would look like in the future when prices of EoD items stabilize. I value consistency a lot more than those "works this month only" GW2 videos. :P
It's already bringing the price of ambergris down.
Man i really need 2500 gold for a legendary weapon
Ty for this tutorial
you deserve way more subs
Honestly, I'm astonished that I've gotten even 10% of the engagement that I have.
@@abree107 keep doing what your doing! People are watching the vids but they are bad at subscribing - your guides are top notch appreciated though
Fun Fact!! I just happen to be strolling my achievements and noticed I had a title achievement named "Golden". This is only obtained by having 2 million gold on your account. This is how I found out my account was hacked after years of not playing.
That achievement refers to "coins", which means copper. You only need 200g to get it.
Wow, In previous videos, I noticed you had 149K, and in this one, down to 90K. The most I've ever accumulated in this game is 2K, but I'm always below 2K. I dont play PVP, WvW or Fractals so I guess that explains it for me :)
This was one of my first videos, so gold value may be different. In general, if you see my gold drastically increase or decrease, it's due to me buying or selling a lot of investments.
@@abree107 its quite the achievement :) When the game launched I had no experience in MMO's or the market. Some kind person gave me 5 gold. I turned that into 100 and eventually 2K but I cant seem to grow it more then that, the markets that I was playing with got over saturated and dried up. I just stumbled onto your channel while looking up Blish HUD and went down a rabbit hole of guides :)
I'm more confused now... How does Unlocking a chest give u gold?
Generally chests give loot and loot can be sold or processed to give more gold. I'm not sure what chest you're referring to specifically though.
@@abree107 Like the chests from PvP or Daily login chests...
@@muhammadbilalkhan9870 Well PvP/WvW reward tracks give a variety of rewards. Some items you can sell directly, others you can salvage, and others you can use in crafting so you won't need to buy them. Login rewards are all over the place. Some things, like merchant expresses are basically worthless. Other things like Mystic Coins and crafting material bags have pretty apparent value. Tomes of knowledge can be consumed for spirit shards which can then be used for profit with material promotions in the Mystic Forge. My "How Gold Works" video has a diagram that explains the different forms of gold in the game. It's not all "gold" in the traditional sense and that's actually a good thing. It helps us avoid the spiral of inflation you'd find in RS3, WoW, or any other older MMO.
did u start saving up gold to the point u reach 150k gold?
Yes, but there's obviously more going into that than just this daily gold routine, which is why there's other videos on this channels for some of the other ways I've obtained that gold.
To Max your gold this is like a full time job… I just do fractals everyday 3 cm’s and dailies
Fractals and strikes are by far the most time consuming. Most of the others take a few minutes.
The maximum gold I can earn from per day is around 25-30. I just do wve train, wvw, pvp, fractals, and dungeons. It's quite tiring tho.
If you're doing all of that, you're probably earning a fair bit more. Don't forget to value in wallet currencies like spirit shards and all your materials that can be converted to gold. Also make sure you aren't instant selling or that will drastically reduce your number.
I earn on average 100-140 gold a day from fishing in lions arch, no hostile mobs = no distractions, and plentiful legendary fish means easy profit quickly.
Yea hot tip the fastest way to make gold is to be employed and put a few hrs of that paycheck to buying gems and buying gold from that. At $15usd per hour it’s 215g per hour. Don’t grind content you don’t enjoy.
Also daily Tequatl gives 1G and many itens.
This is Minion of Terror. Nice to see this video that you have been working on for a while. I am trying to remember the conversation we had on what could be added in this video. i know we talked about specific alt parking spots. but i can understand why you ended up saying that alt parking is a thing but end up not giving a specific spot everybody should go. I could see that you really did try to give as much information as you can in as little as time as possible. More information is always good but if the video is to long i know most people who need it will not watch.
My favorite gold making method is robbing Abree daily :D
Where is login in gifts ?
@amirrajablo3743 I'm not sure I understand the question. If you're asking about the first entry in the video, login rewards, that's been replaced by the wizards' vault. It'll take a little bit longer to complete, but you'll get more gold value from it than the old systems.
I'd argue to just play the game how you want and buy gold when needed. I was doing daily T4s for a few weeks, and sure its great money.. But it becomes a chore so fast when you're doing a routine thing each day.
It always depends on the person. For me, I'd sooner quit the game completely than buy gold just because it would leave me with nothing to do that I like. But it supports the game and its continued development so you'll never see me say anything against it.
I do think some players forget that for gems to be worth a decent amount of gold, there has to be a counterparty buying the gems, so someone has to be earning gold organically. The gem exchange has slight delays in its updates, but it actually works quite similarly to the trading post, so gems would be half the price they are now pretty quickly with nobody buying them with their gold. The game is also just popular in a lot of countries where buying gems isn't feasible for people. Either way, something something circle of life.
I agree that for some players, buying gems and converting them to gold, so they can just play the way they want to, is a good option. I haven’t ever converted gems to gold, but I have bought some gems with in game gold, when I wanted a certain item in the gem store. I don’t mind buying gems occasionally either, because I enjoy the game and want to support Arenanet.
@@traveling.down.the.road56 I found in my 20s I was happy to grind. But now in my 30s times more precious haha so to log on and have fun vs weeks of grinding. An easy option for me. Plus it's fun to play other games too :)
@@traviscue2099 wait until you reach double your age and see how fast time flies by, then you’ll value your time even more.
@@traveling.down.the.road56 exactly lol be buying even more gold 😅
Before watching this video, I would skip the daily login and go straight to warping across the world map repeatedly with no purpose in mind. After watching this video, I don't skip the daily login anymore.
This mistake is made quite often by casual, but your daily reward is not wasted, just open chest, i think it will acumulate if not opened
Raids is a great was but does take experience to do
I would love to see a content maker , actually take you through the steps of actually collecting the gold. Even if it meant two vids on completing it. To many CM's go and talk way to fast. Just my opinion
As interesting as that might be for a few people, unfortunately the vast majority of people hate things going into that much detail. I figure the [Fast] site offers enough in the way of itemizing the gold income from an activity for most people. I just avoid referencing the parts of the site with inaccurate figures or low sample sizes and I think that's a good compromise between detail and simplicity. I had people tell me even 7 minutes was too long and I'm pretty sure the only way I could've made this shorter would have been providing 0 actual info about the methods.
The other problem with itemizing some of these things is the profit is an average. Your CM + T4 profit may be 38ish most days and then you'll drop a 20 stack ascended salvage kit and that will put that 1 day much higher. Your DWC donations may not get you any rewards back one day and then might give you the chest with clovers in it the next day, just because of how the commendation counts work out and the randomness of how many good exchanges are available each day.
I will say every gold value in this video was something I tracked and compared values from when I conceptualized the video 17 months ago and when I actually made it. They're all pretty accurate and consistent. The only one that I really just said "screw it" with was the 1g from converters. Using only the 2 in the video puts you below 1g, using 4-5 like many veterans do gives you over 1g. I didn't feel like it was worth spending time going into all those stipulations.
@@abree107 Your vid was good. I liked it. I would hope maybe slow your talking speed a tad wee bit?
I haVe watched this video at least 5 times.
I strongly recommend, instead of doing hrs of metas for gold spend those 2 hours in a burger joint and buy gold with the min wage.
I have deleted thousands of the ascended resources that you can spend in the gleam of sentience item over the years. Without knowing it, I've probably thrown away a few hundred gold by doing that lol.
Not really that dramatic, I'm afraid.
It's nice to use a converter to make a bit more space, but you really don't gain terribly much. If you're lucky you get a few mats that are worth something, the rest is just junk worth maybe 10 silver if you're lucky.
If you spend the time you save from using a converter, to kill 4-5 mobs in say Dragonfall, your "loss" will be extremely marginal.
Don't get me wrong, you do get a lucky exotic every once in a blue moon, but outside of that it's just "k, got the converter, got the materials, click the converter a bunch, oh it didn't eat as much as it could, store the converter, store the mats, recycle the stuff, sell the junk" to gain a silver.
What your build
In this video it would've been the firebrand build that was on the Discretize website at the time. I'm sure a few things have changed since then, but whatever they have on their site now will be current.
Try doing fractals, it sucks. If you are new and don’t know what to do yet you get kicked immediately.
LFG can certainly be off-putting. I'd recommend asking in your guilds if there's people that can help you learn them. This community is also the best community I'm currently aware of for learning fractals: www.gw2university.com/
People are very supportive and helpful.
@@abree107 Thank you !!
Ah this needs an update since daily rewards don’t work the same anymore
Thankfully, there's an in game tutorial for that and the rewards are flat out better.
@@abree107 there’s a tutorial? I figured it out by clicking on stuff and also didn’t even know how to limit my dailies and weeklies to PvE until I saw a post about it on facebook XD but fair and all the other methods are still very good ones. And I do agree that the need reward system is much better
VERY cool! I can't wait to make lots of gold!
None of those are for gold. Fractals are for gold + encryptions.
Directly farming raw gold in this game is not something that is possible to do in a large number of different ways. People commenting similar things is actually what led to me making my "How Gold Works" video, which includes an explanation of the differences between raw gold, liquid gold, and total gold value. Guild Wars 2 is a little different from other games, and people who have trouble making gold usually have trouble because they're not clear on the differences between those 3 classifications of gold. Once they've understood that, it's easy for most people to see potential gold income in all sorts of ways in the game.
@@abree107 Just do metas and fractals. Be happy. xD
@@abree107 The video is good as far as i'm concerned.
Yeah, completely lost the point of the entire video on the "haha, just do t4 cms daily" part.
That is not and will never be a "consistent" source of income for 95% of the player base. Setting up a character that can even run such high fractals takes immense amounts of gold. I don't care how worth that investion is in 2 years of constant daily fractals.
Not to mention that "easy way to get into instanced content" with the easy 3, being in the same video as "do the hardest instanced 5-man content in the game" is just ludicrous. If you do not have a completely dedicated static, you will not do these every day or you will have to suffer through finding a group that actually does it, then suffer through the bickering/regrouping/nagging etc.
And it really doesn't help, that this kinda video pushes the view that fractals are the way to go, so people who wanna try them, bump into the 5% (that kinda often contains assholes) and then they just lost all their gold on a tiny stat increase of their armor and 150 stat points that do nothing, while getting frustrated with group content that's governed by those who don't want them there.
The only people doing daily cms are the ones that don't need the money and haven't needed it in a long time.
I get your point, but as I said, I encourage people to give them a try and see if they like them before fully committing to anything. I've seen plenty of players try fractals and then fully gear a character in a couple weeks with the gold they make from T1-T3 dailies, start doing T4s + CMs, and become really good players. I've also seen people decide it's not for them and move to doing other things, options which will be covered in future videos. The greatest number of players I've seen are the ones that avoid giving fractals an honest try because veterans tell them that it's toxic or out of their reach. They CAN do it and a lot of new players I've talked to are super into it when it's shown to them without all the negative stigmas attached. Experienced fractal players generally do want more people to get into fractals. The thing that most find annoying is when people come in to higher tier fractals with little-no experience because they skipped the whole learning stage. Toxicity definitely is a real thing, but that's why we have guilds and training runs.
I'm happy to recommend (and have recommended in the comments) a good community for new players interested in learning fractals in a positive environment.
From a gold-making perspective, the fact is that there's no daily-gated reward that can match it and it's a really good goal to strive to, whether you go from scale 1 to 100 CM in 1 week or 1 year. You make back your gold in ~9-10 days and from then on it's just profit. The value absolutely is there for people who care to seek it out. For the rest, there's all the other options and more coming with future videos. These are, for the most part, the "best" daily gold makers based on time-efficiency, not the "easiest".
When I want gold in GW2, first i sell all my mats / skins / anything that sells that I don’t need for a current project. Then, when I run out, I swipe and buy the rest of the gold xD
I never tried Fractals. :(
Still thinking about it. Do not like group content like this.
Gotta get me that gold. ^^
all the new players playing this game doing these "apparent gold making" content, will do this and end up with 5+ gold and wonder why that is. well ill tell you, its because what he means by liquid gold, is that it is materials that you want to save or resources that can be spent to buy things that can be sold, he doesn't literally mean making gold, contrary to what his video name is which in a way is a lie.
Very few things give you raw gold in any appreciable quantity. Selling items for gold when needed is pretty central to GW2 and is why the game hasn't experienced the inflationary spirals that other MMOs have. Perhaps a video about how gold works in the game wouldn't go amiss.
I'm curious, as a new player looking specifically to raise enough gold for my griffin/skyscale, why are all of these supposed "best" or "fastest" gold guides literally packed to the gills with activities that have almost zero impact on your actual current gold count? Yes, I understand the whole "building your account" mantra and the long-term effects of such trains of thought. But we, being most new/broke players, don't go searching for "best gold guides" etc etc for a lesson in Wall Street. We aren't looking at our currencies/materials like stocks and bonds. We want you to get straight to the point with pure, shiny, liquid gold making activities. Period. What can we do TODAY that will make gold TODAY. Not in a month, year, decade like some hedge fund manager.
Your daily achievemenfs and even low tier fractals both let you make steady, but maybe slow progress towards those goals.
Skyscale is a lot more time dependent than gold dependent. If you're not sure which one to start with, definitely do that one first. Griffon is much faster, but quite literally several times more expensive and it's also just not as versatile.
Thematically speaking, dailies TEND to be more of a progressive thing. If you're looking for raw gold and you want to just smash that out ASAP, I'd suggest looking for a farm you like and just listing all the materials on the trading post until you get what you need for griffon. You'll be taking a small hit on your gold per hour doing it that way, but if you really want to do it as fast as possible then that's your best bet. There is also bauble farming that gives mostly raw gold if you can find a group for it.
If you don't care about the skins they offer, doing your Dragon Bash dailies and choosing the 5 jorbreaker option every 5 days from the chest you get will also make a huge dent in your gold needs. Even if you decide you want those skins, the coffers and zhaitaffy alone add up quite a bit and you can sell those to have an immediate gold source that's accessible and half decent. Obviously that option expires, but it's really good for your situation.
At the end of the day, the economy is set up quite a bit differently in GW2 compared to other games, which is why you're finding stuff that lacks quicker routes to gold than a lot of other games do. My approach as someone who enjoys trying gold-making methods and teaching others about it is to share the "best" options available within the constraints of what they enjoy about the game, not necessarily easiest or fastest. Plenty of gold guides will tell you to "just do octovine" because it's piss easy, but it will take AGES to accumulate gold doing that. No harm if it works for people, but it's definitely not efficient and people can definitely make more while still enjoying the game. There's no clout or money in making GW2 content and if it wasn't obvious already, I can go on for ages about this stuff. I do it because I like it, so feel free to comment questions or DM me on discord (abree107#7791).