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  • Will Blackmon, Emmanuel Acho, LeSean McCoy, and Ric Bucher discuss whether Lamar Jackson made a mistake by betting on himself last season. Blackmon weighs in and Jackson’s situation and explains he shouldn’t have a problem finding a team that would be interested in signing him. The group then debate whether Jackson is seeking too much for his next deal.
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  • @SpeakOnFS1
    @SpeakOnFS1  ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @Erati243
      @Erati243 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Jackson is a once in a decade QB but was drafted in the same draft as Josh Allen who is better..... What does that make Josh than?

    • @randomupdates4013
      @randomupdates4013 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bring back Dave 😢

  • @JoSchmo7405
    @JoSchmo7405 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Not having an agent is like not having a lawyer in court. Good luck 👍🏽

    • @dakotasikes6690
      @dakotasikes6690 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Bit he does have an agent. His mom and she doesn't know anything about.this business

    • @zwerrell
      @zwerrell ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As we say in law, a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client…

    • @redmanjohnson4616
      @redmanjohnson4616 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dakotasikes6690 ... Exactly

    • @reignsupreme7686
      @reignsupreme7686 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dakota Sikes she is not his agent she is NOT his agent SHE IS NOT HIS AGENT. SMH HE already said this. She manages his businesses. He reps himself

  • @ahmedhussein2535
    @ahmedhussein2535 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    He was 8-4 and was on pace for nearly 4400 yards and 30 TDS. He missed 4 games with sprained knee. RELAX. Y’all are acting like he lost his leg. 😭😭🤣

    • @lordjamon
      @lordjamon ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Now post his playoff stats 😬😬😬

    • @korReeS2
      @korReeS2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lordjamon with him not having any help it’s pointless to post it because we all know if he had elite WRs like Allen, Burrow , Mahomes his record would be different

    • @seanm3463
      @seanm3463 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@korReeS2 who were mahomes' elite receivers last year ?

    • @lordjamon
      @lordjamon ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@korReeS2 I understand if he came up a little short bc his teammates let him down. But look at his stats bro. He has been dogshit in the big games. Throws a ton of picks and takes 7-8 sacks. He isn’t a winner like mahomes or burrow

    • @Ash-lf6to
      @Ash-lf6to ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So what you are saying is he could've played in the playoffs when it mattered most? It's just a sprain right, wrap it up tight, put a strap on it and get it going.
      Can't have it both ways, either it was a significant injury or he left his team out to dry for a possible contract.

  • @short_kingzz
    @short_kingzz ปีที่แล้ว +47

    He was an MVP too long ago for teams to care they're worried about him.missing games the past two seasons and the amount of money he wants knowing he'll probably miss games again especially cause how he plays

    • @pipobachenge6814
      @pipobachenge6814 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lamar has never missed a game because of an injury from running. All injuries occurred in the pocket, but I don't hear anyone complain about Joe Burrow, who has had a season ending injury, Kyler, DeShawn Watson, who tore his ACL. Lamar has never had reconstructive knee surgery, yet we want to talk about his injury. His playing style has nothing to do with those injuries

    • @ChoppedBananas
      @ChoppedBananas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pipobachenge6814 His playing style has everything to do with those injuries. What you pointed out is correct in every way, but you leave out a major point. Take away Jackson's legs he is an average pocket QB. Burrow having that injury doesn't effect his play style as much if he is recovering from an ACL tear.

    • @chestdaybrah
      @chestdaybrah ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Burrow can actually make it to the big game

    • @pipobachenge6814
      @pipobachenge6814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @masongualandi2353 Yes, he can with all his supporting cast. 3 monster receivers and all. That is besides the point anyway. We are talking about injury, my friend. He has reconstructive knee surgery, and guess what? His team still believed he would bounce back, and he did. They actually tried to invest in his offensive line to protect him. Guess who just signed Orlando Brown? That's what the team does to win. Can Ravens trade out picks for a #1 WR or spend big dollars for one?

    • @pipobachenge6814
      @pipobachenge6814 ปีที่แล้ว

      @anthroscientist you can't make that assessment until you give him a true #1 receiver. We thought the same about Allen, then Bills went and got him a true #1.

  • @throwthe9route92
    @throwthe9route92 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Lamar is finding out that an MVP season in 2019 means nothing in 2023. Janet Jackson, is that you singing?

    • @thedude-nf1uf
      @thedude-nf1uf ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It means something but not finishing the last two seasons is a way bigger deal than people are saying imo. Availability is the best ability

    • @REALG444
      @REALG444 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Exactly. This man really needs an agent 😂

    • @boothdos
      @boothdos ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly. Lamar overplayed his hand big time!!!

    • @giffondhall9214
      @giffondhall9214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      W

    • @giffondhall9214
      @giffondhall9214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thedude-nf1uf L

  • @scotsanders323
    @scotsanders323 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    they keep using the word "disrespectful" as if this is personal. its business, it's the bottom line. is lamar worth what he wants? the ravens (and i) dont think so, but even if he was - who wants to pay full price for anything if you can get a small discount? that's smart, not disrespectful.

  • @Henlarious
    @Henlarious ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These guys who just want players to get paid are just mindless. Jackson wants too much guaranteed money. NO TEAM is willing to give him it. That's it. There is nothing else. Also, Jackson is ALWAYS hurt. NO TEAM wants to pay top dollar to a player who's ALWAYS hurt. It's not collusion. It's common sense. And I'm not even a fan of Bucher, but he's spot on with his take regarding Jackson not having an agent. They do MUCH MORE than just take a commission. Jackson doesn't have the contact info for every GM in the NFL. Agents do. Jackson should have taken the $133 MILLION guaranteed (with incentives for more).

  • @mazzith
    @mazzith ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem is not the money it’s the picks they have to give up to sign him. It’s not worth it.

    • @toneb.8567
      @toneb.8567 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t see why people don’t see that

  • @derrickmason7457
    @derrickmason7457 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I repeat what team has come to claim Lamar the money he wants ?

    • @Finnissee0122
      @Finnissee0122 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They couldn’t talk to him until today March 15th.

    • @derrickmason7457
      @derrickmason7457 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Finnissee0122 ok so what’s the hold up ? Teams should be knocking down his door

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@derrickmason7457 At 12:01am!!!!
      Don't recall it taking this long for LAL to sign LeBron....

  • @christopherporter5472
    @christopherporter5472 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Yes, he played himself

    • @steelbltz
      @steelbltz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Period

    • @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
      @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 ปีที่แล้ว

      How? He will still get a huge contract so what did he lose?

    • @christopherporter5472
      @christopherporter5472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 Wake me up when that happens

    • @steelbltz
      @steelbltz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 he didn't accept one of them of 133guranteed, I would've took that no questions asked🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️I mean how much money do you honestly need? 133mill can't take care of 3 generations if it's invested correctly?

  • @kyleharrison713
    @kyleharrison713 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Something is only worth as much as someone is 'willing' to pay for it.

  • @to4316
    @to4316 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Lamar doesn't understand the concept of negotiating. He seems to think teams would just hand him everything he wants without making any compromises at all just because Cleveland is dumb. Dude needs to realize he's no Mahomes or Burrow.

    • @devn266
      @devn266 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not even that Deshauns agent negotiated to get that number there... if you just tell them your number and don't accept or give ground to get ground, you'll get nothing done

    • @JR-jw4yu
      @JR-jw4yu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Better than burrow less than mahomes give him burrow weapons he kills it

    • @to4316
      @to4316 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@JR-jw4yu 5 playoff wins, 2 AFC champ appearances, 1 SB appearance in 3 years vs 1 playoff win in 5 years. Burrow is way better he doesn't choke in big games.

    • @kevinreed6
      @kevinreed6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the Ravens are not the Browns

    • @bondbarrybonds5774
      @bondbarrybonds5774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JR-jw4yu 😂😂😂 Okay buddy

  • @James-jr8yo
    @James-jr8yo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The theory that I've heard that makes the most sense to me is that everyone thinks that the Ravens will match whatever they would be willing to offer so why bother. I dunno.

    • @allencarnes2477
      @allencarnes2477 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not only that but the Ravens have 5 Business days to match and during that time the other team can’t use money from the proposed contract.

    • @harukuhitoki2991
      @harukuhitoki2991 ปีที่แล้ว

      LoL They might take the 2 1st round picks

  • @user-sx7zo3ru6m
    @user-sx7zo3ru6m ปีที่แล้ว +3

    no team is going to pay the price lamar wants + the 2 1st rounders it will take to get him. its ridiculous and you guys should know better.

  • @NinersGiantsNation
    @NinersGiantsNation ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lamar will get paid but nobody will pay Watson type contract, burrow will

  • @oronmurphy3724
    @oronmurphy3724 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So, we have continually heard how great Harbaugh is as a coach, how great GRO is as a coordinator, yet the guy (L. Jackson) gets all this scrutiny for missing games being over 85% of the offense!!! How can these greats have a player that can do sooooo many things at the qb position & break down with the one element that keeps them winning? Yall said Hurts was no good bc the team (Eagles) can win with anyone!!! How is it that Ravens can't, haven't & didn't win without Jackson??????🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

    • @jmommy881
      @jmommy881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go Blue!

    • @scotsanders323
      @scotsanders323 ปีที่แล้ว

      lamar is good, but he isnt that good. i mean hes prolly top 10, but he isn't top 5. and the best ability is availability - especially for that price tag. .

    • @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
      @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scotsanders323 What do the numbers say?

    • @oronmurphy3724
      @oronmurphy3724 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scotsanders323 You would say Allen & Burrow is I bet🤡💯

  • @kyndread71
    @kyndread71 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Lamar Jackson made a mistake by NOT HIRING AN AGENT. It's good to bet on yourself.... but sometimes you need a neutral mediator that will give it to you straight.

  • @TimurQuinton442
    @TimurQuinton442 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Washington and Baltimore are the only teams that do not have a settled QB right now. Carolina, Indy, and Houston are all going with the draft. Lamar messed up.

    • @made_u_LookTV
      @made_u_LookTV ปีที่แล้ว

      U have no clue what they doing cuz u not in these teams front office

    • @TimurQuinton442
      @TimurQuinton442 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @JefeJefe Well I do know some things as I have wisdom. I also know how to spell "you". If he goes to anyone outside of Baltimore or Washington, I would be very surprised. Remember, Lamar passed for 300 once last season and had a game of 93 passing yards. Nothing I would pay for.

    • @nikeguy2
      @nikeguy2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TimurQuinton442 Anthony Richardson is like great value Lamar Jackson. Why give up two picks to overpay Lamar if you can just reach in the first round and grab Richardson?

  • @DevonYurBoyCook
    @DevonYurBoyCook ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s like they forcing Lamar into a leveon bell situation. Lesean McCoy watched Vick get paid after dog fighting and beating out mcnabb. Vick got paid twice and deshuan Watson got paid. Vick and Watson broke the charts as the highest paid qb. What’s the hold up on Lamar.

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The hold up is lamar is a bad negotiator who has mismanaged his career off the field.
      Lamar turned down one of the best contract offers anyone has seen. Better than murray and wilson. Hes obsessed with watson's contract without a clue as to the nuances that brought that about.
      His bank account is about 150 million less than it should be. The amount of money he has left on the table both with the lack of endorsements and stupid contract demands is staggering.

    • @night_wolf6621
      @night_wolf6621 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those other guys negotiated

  • @steelbltz
    @steelbltz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sure did....that's what happens when you make ya mom ya agent & ALSO think you're Peyton Manning or Russell Wilson or Patrick Mahomes. He's good but not them

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The media hypes him up. You herd the first dude and even Acho , is he elite? The jury is out

  • @wtvdam
    @wtvdam ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Betting on himself, but also not really negotiating with the Ravens. Negotiating means going back and forth with offers and reaching a middle ground. I don’t see other teams reaching out to him, covertly or openly. Without an agent they want no part of him.

  • @Neo-cj1im
    @Neo-cj1im ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Lamar is not the qb he was the mvp year. He is a Better runner than passer

    • @gregreongreen9176
      @gregreongreen9176 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah my guy hes a great passer that can run people lie numbers don’t career passee rating of 96.7 with 101 tds to 38 int with 63% percent career completion with12,000 yrds just bcuz he’s has ability to run doesn’t mean he’s just a better runner 👀 better career qb passer rating then josh allen and justin herbert who people claim there so much better than him 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @brandonmilbry6793
      @brandonmilbry6793 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@gregreongreen9176 but he's probably gonna keep getting injured. Giving him 50 mil a year fully guaranteed won't keep magically keep him healthy

  • @kmanahan
    @kmanahan ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Never thought about that Shady. Do teams ever make incentives like, get us to the Super Bowl and you're $231 Million is guaranteed!!

    • @BiggNewt
      @BiggNewt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His current contract offer had incentives. He didn't want incentives, he wants fully guaranteed, no questions asked

    • @nikeguy2
      @nikeguy2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All the time. You get playoff incentives, all pro incentives, pro bowls, games on roster, snaps played etc.

  • @jackminigutti2416
    @jackminigutti2416 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is Dave still on the show? Haven’t seen him in a while

  • @richy12zzz
    @richy12zzz ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yeah, he messed up. Reality check! Lamar is only worth something as a NFL Quarterback. No one is gonna offer you anything outside of the NFL. That being said, never a good idea to be your own agent and overvaluing yourself. Just because I think I’m the best Qb in the market doesn’t mean they view it the same way.

    • @cr0ssed7462
      @cr0ssed7462 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      casual take. im pretty sure as a millionaire you dont need to solely rely on brand deals to multiply your money. you know the NFL has financial advisors (technically) for players now right?

    • @richy12zzz
      @richy12zzz ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cr0ssed7462 you know Lamar is his own agent right now right. Meaning he didn’t want to pay a agent to negotiate his contract and there is no middle man to lessen the blows from negotiations with the Ravens. He F up.

    • @sjohnny8221
      @sjohnny8221 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@richy12zzz Actually his mom is his agent, and they have help from the NFLPA. Him not having an agent isn’t the reason this deal isn’t done

    • @williamsnyder4890
      @williamsnyder4890 ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn’t play when he was healthy and could of played every one knows it f him

    • @doitdoits4109
      @doitdoits4109 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sjohnny8221 An agent would not have let him play the last 2 years without a contract. He gambled and lost. His injuries are starting to become more regular like all running QB's. He's not too bright and apparently neither is his mother.

  • @Michael-tc1dm
    @Michael-tc1dm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lamar will get paid but it won't be what he's asking for.

  • @juliancano6913
    @juliancano6913 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shady is super worried for Lamar it’s so funny 😂

    • @nikeguy2
      @nikeguy2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s what happens when you give someone bad advice. Shady was riding the Lamar meat wagon with the rest of Lamar’s immature fanbase instead of telling Lamar not to play.
      Where’s that slimeball Uncle Tom, Robert Griffin III, at? Awful quiet isn’t he now? Lamar let idiots influence him.

  • @briansmad1
    @briansmad1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Teams are not shelling out $200 million and two #1 picks because he and his TEAM had a great year in 2019. That is bad business.

  • @harold415
    @harold415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Injuries are a factor when paying a QB. Teams would be dumb to overpay

  • @Pend3rlab
    @Pend3rlab ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5 years in the league.... 1 playoff win and 2 DNF seasons. Pay him what??!

  • @tavitatui
    @tavitatui ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Ravens can get the same results with a cheaper QB...one and done in the playoffs 😂😂😂

  • @boothdos
    @boothdos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lamar is staying in Baltimore. Stop the MVP BS. That was 3 years ago. Stop it.

  • @scotsanders323
    @scotsanders323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can we stop acting like lamar is a top 5 QB. he isnt. and for the past 2 years im not even sure about top 10.

  • @randomupdates4013
    @randomupdates4013 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bring back Dave! That is all ...

  • @drumpfzuckerberg7491
    @drumpfzuckerberg7491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s now racist to not want to pay Lamar a quarter billion

  • @markusmolnar8701
    @markusmolnar8701 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Acho might be the most annoying person in sports 🤣

  • @deadphux
    @deadphux ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When you get a guy like Lamar you need to change the entire offense

    • @JR-jw4yu
      @JR-jw4yu ปีที่แล้ว

      Not even let him throw

    • @ttravis10
      @ttravis10 ปีที่แล้ว

      No you don’t. Watch his college film.

    • @gregreongreen9176
      @gregreongreen9176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ttravis10 facts they forgot he ran a pro offense in college

  • @hmcsavage
    @hmcsavage ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He should've signed it because regardless of the situation Lamar is gonna be Lamar and play at a high level , had he signed it he could've gotten an extension later on down the road expecting him to play like he usually does

    • @DuckFanDane
      @DuckFanDane ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re right Lamar is gonna play like Lamar, so updating the résumé, we can see he will play great, but he’s only gonna play for like 11 games out of the year and you need a good back up quarterback for him when he misses those games from injury and you probably won’t win a playoff game maybe one every couple years. That is his résumé that he is injury prone, but plays well when he is available.

  • @chippope8984
    @chippope8984 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And, the Ravens could and should LOWER that offer in a few short minutes. Why? Because they were ALL IN ON LAMAR FROM THE VERY BEGINNING!!! And it was fine for Lamar not to have an agent as a rookie, it's pretty much predetermined. But that second contract? His agent would have already let him know whether he should take the deal or not. The agent would have already felt out who was seriously interested like Desean Watson. And while Lamar wanted to protect his future by not playing in the playoffs, I mean, THAT IS WHAT THESE TEAMS PLAY FOR!!! And that is the last two years straight. That is a problem!!!!! No one is going to guarantee that for as much as he wants. WHY ARE THESE QB'S SO FREAKING GREEDY!!!! He hasn't even made it to the Conference Championship game for goodness sakes!!!! If you do not do that while on rookie contract how do you expect to do it taking up 25% of the cap!!!!

    • @reignsupreme7686
      @reignsupreme7686 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lies drinking that purple Kool aid I see

  • @tagjr9744
    @tagjr9744 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Yes. He did. Bet on himself twice….and lost.

    • @nikeguy2
      @nikeguy2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lamar Jackson will be an example for the entire community; don’t mix family and business. Lamar nearly ruined Hollywood Browns career 😂. I’m glad Marquise left, let Rashod Bateman eat the crow for Lamar.

  • @drumpfzuckerberg7491
    @drumpfzuckerberg7491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LamarB thinks he deserves Mahomes money 😂

  • @479FilmsX
    @479FilmsX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss Dave and Joy

  • @Mustang1984
    @Mustang1984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't really agree with Acho. If a 26 year old Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes was in this situation I'd say 20+ teams would be courting them regardless if they had a qb or not at the time. LJ's problem is he keeps missing games when it counts in the last 1/3 of the season, the fact that he wants too much guaranteed money, and the fact that he has those 2 first rd picks as baggage depressing his market. He was offered a contract worthy of a player of his caliber, and he turned it down. He's put money over the team and potential championship IN MY OPINION.

  • @Nc18554
    @Nc18554 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This will be talked about decades down the road. Every nfl owner has talked to the ravens, whether it will ever be known or not. They all are agreeing to not dish out another deshaun contract. There are multiple teams right now and qbs who are watching this situation. If Lamar got fully guaranteed, Herbert, burrow, hurts will all ask for the same thing plus some.

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There is no conspiracy. Please stop.

    • @chrismiller755
      @chrismiller755 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Facts

    • @Nc18554
      @Nc18554 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@whitewhale9012 its not a conspiracy, it's called collusion. It happens in all of sports all of the time. Nfl owners all talk. The browns made a very smart play with doing what they did. They won't win anything from it, but they have made things very difficult for a lot of teams. You will not see any of the other qbs sign until Lamar does. You don't think all of these owners are talking amongst each other. If no other team offers him a fully guaranteed, it saves everyone down the line from having to do it. They will say "hey look Lamar only got this, u deserve this" they will make the deshaun deal an anomaly.

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Nc18554 If you claim the nfl owners have a secret pact to not pay lamar it is, in fact, a conspiracy claim.
      Its also stupid.

    • @iamking_nell
      @iamking_nell ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@whitewhale9012 there was no conspiracy with Kap either huh?

  • @Dazza0187
    @Dazza0187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This constant talk on Lamar not getting signed, it's simple the owners are banding together to send a message we don't want to pay fully guaranteed contracts. Then you add to that he's been injured in the last couple of seasons and his productivity has dipped a little. He's a top 10 QB but he's not at the level of Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Herbert and Hurts/Lawrence are probably better as well.

    • @made_u_LookTV
      @made_u_LookTV ปีที่แล้ว

      Herbert n Lawrence has 1 winning season out of 3… Lamar owns the AFC North since he’s been in the league while also having a 6-2 record against the Bengals… only QB better then Lamar is Mahomes n Rodgers

    • @Dazza0187
      @Dazza0187 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@made_u_LookTV Show me the QB stat for a team win? Rodgers is washed, Mahomes, Burrows, Allen and Herbert are all better than Lamar right now!

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@made_u_LookTV yes but he's probably not a head ache ..

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no conspiracy. Grow up. Lamar sucks at negotiating.

  • @boulevard251
    @boulevard251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the example of the need for an agent, jackson

  • @MrBmic
    @MrBmic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Last week, Ocho was kissing Lamar's backside. This week, Lamar's in trouble. Sad.

    • @princecheck11
      @princecheck11 ปีที่แล้ว

      he is doing his job he suppose to play devil advocate it’s a debate show

    • @princecheck11
      @princecheck11 ปีที่แล้ว

      hearing ocho conclusion u just wanted to comment something 😂

  • @pipobachenge6814
    @pipobachenge6814 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lamar is very private. If teams were talking to him under the radar, no one would know until an offersheet wasn't matched by Ravens. Ravens are equally as fairly private

    • @yung5saint
      @yung5saint ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s been blasting the team and mentioning specific contract details on social media, the man isn’t private 😂

    • @punksjutgbd
      @punksjutgbd ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol this is business and strategy. No place to be private.

    • @pipobachenge6814
      @pipobachenge6814 ปีที่แล้ว

      @punksjutgbd business and strategy? Why has he not taken the Kyler Murray approach, then? Demand a trade or gone on a social media rant like most players do? Removed all his Ravens logo from his social media account? ..hahahaha.. Everyone does business differently! I know there is a chance Lamar could play last year because Ravens expected him back. So much happened privately, but everyone was left to speculate. So much for business strategy, right? This dude should have demanded a contract after his MVP season post year 3, so don't tell me anything about business strategy. Kyler Murray took his team to the playoff and botched his first
      playoff game post year 3, but guess what? He demanded his money! Ravens are to blame here as much as Lamar. An agent would have told Lamar it's time for us to get paid my G

    • @punksjutgbd
      @punksjutgbd ปีที่แล้ว

      @pipobachenge6814 that would be strategy.

    • @joesmith1544
      @joesmith1544 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly! All these busy bodies saying he made a mistake betting on himself! Lamar doesn't do leaks like the Ravens did to him. Lamar will get a big payday.

  • @dre6osama394
    @dre6osama394 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s alot of haters in here😂 he better than y’all favorite qb let’s b honest

  • @made_u_LookTV
    @made_u_LookTV ปีที่แล้ว

    Did Daniel Jones get a injury incentive n he’s missed 9 games past 2 years… n as well as these guys know sports they don’t know nothing really! There’s no rush OTAs isn’t until May/June… Panthers might trade the #1 pick n get a Major draft haul of picks n players… Colts might trade their pick for a draft haul nobody knows… nobody knows if 1 team or 6 teams called him at 4 pm today

  • @KurvaciousKurves
    @KurvaciousKurves ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like how when each one of them speaks, Everyone doesn’t interrupt.

  • @TheLeaderOfAuthenticity
    @TheLeaderOfAuthenticity ปีที่แล้ว

    Jus wait on it. Keep thinking Lamar dumb

  • @TimeBomb008
    @TimeBomb008 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ravens offered lamar months and months ago 5 yr 250mil 133 fully gaurenteed 180 virtually gaurenteed he turned it down I don't see a team beating that offer and losing 2 firet round picks to boot.

    • @litecodes3552
      @litecodes3552 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kyler has two years left
      Lamer has none
      Lamar is better
      Has an mvp
      Kylie has none
      Kyler secured 146 million
      With 2 years left
      Lamar has no years left
      133 who ??

  • @soda8736
    @soda8736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first guy just said the typical ex player answer.. Lamar had a once decade n a decade seasons , hasn't maintained that though. For whatever reasons

  • @ajmango210
    @ajmango210 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where is David Helman? Havent seen him in most of these recent clips

    • @princecheck11
      @princecheck11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yall be so braindead, he is on vacationnnn it’s spring/summer come on now

    • @ajmango210
      @ajmango210 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@princecheck11 how am I brain dead for not knowing someones schedule? Asked a simple question, d!ckhead

  • @aheughan
    @aheughan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There was no downside to him betting on himself, hes shooting for the stars , at worst hes going to land in the clouds, but he wont get just what they would have given him if he didnt fall on his sword the way he did for the rest of the quarterbacks in the league. No matter what hes being offered and already has been offered more than what he originally was going to be offered.

    • @nikeguy2
      @nikeguy2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s shoot for the moon and land in the stars…. The clouds?

    • @Mustang1984
      @Mustang1984 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well, he bet on himself last year and got hurt. That is the only downside. On the other hand, his play on the field is undisputed imo. The Ravens were in 1st place the last two years before he got hurt. I'd just hate to see him bet on himself again and suffer an acl tear or something that would seriously put a damper on his career. Lesean Mccoy put it perfectly in that LJ and Bmore need to meet in the middle and LJ has a number in his head and just ain't budging.

  • @ishaq24722
    @ishaq24722 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Lamar doesn't get an offer he likes, can't he go back and take the Raven deal? Maybe he should. But he seems like a stubborn guy. Out of spite, or pride he'll risk injury and not take the Raven deal. God forbid he has a major injury on a one-year tag. Everybody telling him to get an agent---he won't get an agent. He seems like a stubborn young man. It can work out for him---its early. But perhaps he should get a high-powered agent.

  • @Agent77X
    @Agent77X ปีที่แล้ว

    Lamar needs to find another fool owner like that of the Cleveland’s owner. There are 12 NFL teams that are potential buyers for Lamar services!😊
    If Lamar can hire Tom Cruise to represent him, he will “show me the money!”💰
    But Cruise is pretty busy, so I think that not going to happen!

  • @gibson3lespaul
    @gibson3lespaul ปีที่แล้ว

    Really? I like Lamar, but you think HE is once in a decade type of player? Not Mahomes? Not Allen? Jackson?? Mkay...

  • @jerrymcgrath4294
    @jerrymcgrath4294 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you think Lamar is an MVP quarterback then you haven’t watched him play the last two years. Fumbles, interceptions and turnovers in the red zone. Just another running quarterback that adds no value to the team.

  • @joshuap935
    @joshuap935 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lamar could’ve signed a 4 yr 200 mil deal zero guaranteed and would have made 200 mil in 4 yrs… he’s a qb, he wouldn’t get cut… this notion of guaranteed money by a qb is overrated.

  • @barak-rocky-giles2081
    @barak-rocky-giles2081 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The one thing that's hurt Lamar is that he hasn't played "the bad guy" yet. If he's willing to go as far as not playing, then he might be able to get what he wants.

    • @carlgilmore-murry5789
      @carlgilmore-murry5789 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s not that type of guy.. his track record shows

    • @derrickmason7457
      @derrickmason7457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How about he’s just not worth what he’s asking

    • @barak-rocky-giles2081
      @barak-rocky-giles2081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@derrickmason7457 Even IF we all assume that he's not worth what he's asking for (which we aren't), that doesn't not inherently mean he's worth what he's being offered (which is essentially the same deal that Allen got 2 years ago). In most cases, the true value is usually somewhere in between the two sides. I guess we'll see what happens here.

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@carlgilmore-murry5789 he tells random fans to eat a d *** , he tweets childish ish., He take pictures with signs saying pay Lamar , he mabye didn't play a playoff game , he didn't even show up to support his teammates, he allegedly been late to practice and disinterested in team meetings. What type of guy is he?

  • @PeeJayBrownJr
    @PeeJayBrownJr ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny that he would bring up Vick and Ryan. Who went to the playoffs and a SB? Yes, Vick was flashy but that did not translate to playoffs or a SB.

  • @Gel5345
    @Gel5345 ปีที่แล้ว

    These same guys gassed him up. Now the “win” is getting what the Ravens offered him a couple years ago. Could have been close to getting to an extension. Greed boi. Kinda sad.

  • @charlescomeauxjr9037
    @charlescomeauxjr9037 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn't want to give him a big guarantee contract, because of his style of play. The QB rules on hits benefits a pocket QB.

  • @mcronn1002
    @mcronn1002 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s fixed the owners colluded against lamar. Go out wink 😜 wink 😜 and test the market. And if someone offers you a contract we’ll match it. Knowing the owners agreed not to sign him. Lamar will have to play for the 32 million franchise tag 🏷️. For the ravens or he won’t play this season 😢.!!

    • @bendover-bs1of
      @bendover-bs1of ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So you don't think another team would take him if they thought he was worth the price?

    • @derrickmason7457
      @derrickmason7457 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bravo you figured it out .. now how about this could’ve been avoided if Lamar wanted to go out and play he chose to sit out and play hurt

    • @made_u_LookTV
      @made_u_LookTV ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bendover-bs1ofif he was a outright free agent he’d get 300 million 240 guaranteed!

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@derrickmason7457 This point is not brought up enough , and if he would have say gotten hurt , he still would have gotten paid , Dak Prescott's still got paid after his injury. The Ravens would have respected that , if they have any integrity , also the league would have to , as it stands Lamar looks like a me guy. Not playing in a playoff game , not even showing up on the sidelines , also , taking pictures holding a sign that says pay Lamar , cursing out a fan who said he wasn't worth the money , and reports of being disinterested in meetings and late to practice. The media ignores this stuff but teams know..

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is no conspiracy.
      Stop excusing lamar's bad decisions.

  • @skevincampbell
    @skevincampbell ปีที่แล้ว

    A complete lack of self awareness. He thought other teams would be lining up. They’re not. Subsequent to that, having your mommy, who is neither an agent, nor an attorney, pretend to be an agent, is a sign of not understanding the situation.

  • @DuckFanDane
    @DuckFanDane ปีที่แล้ว

    Shady can say all that about the Falcons, but the fact is just like the other teams an MVP like Lamar does not matter because it happened 3 years ago and the last few years he has been injured. Lamar is not going to get more guaranteed money than the three years 137 mil guaranteed from anybody else. The reason is nobody is going to give him the guaranteed money because he’s injury prone.

  • @shaqdaddy789
    @shaqdaddy789 ปีที่แล้ว

    Teams are waiting until after the NFL draft to look at Lamar
    Because if they shopped him now they would have to give up 2 first round picks
    Might as well wait until after the draft that way it goes onto next years picks

  • @TheSocratesian
    @TheSocratesian ปีที่แล้ว

    Jackson is NOT "MVP anymore. That was 3 freaking season ago and two of them ended really badly.

  • @cloudstrife4897
    @cloudstrife4897 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Somebody’s going to pay him” no they won’t, at least not what he’s demanding

  • @TheYankees809
    @TheYankees809 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lamar is gonna finesse himself out of a contract I have a strong feeling he is going to have to play on this franchise tag this year, he's gonna get hurt again and next year nobody is gonna be offering big money. If he doesn't get hurt if I'm the Ravens I tag him again next year and since he was given this lower unexclusive tag this year the tag amount for next year is like 38 million which is way less then what he wants and you offered so it's a win. Not having an agent is going to cost him MILLIONS of dollars.

  • @jmommy881
    @jmommy881 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes he did.

  • @donaugustus6010
    @donaugustus6010 ปีที่แล้ว

    All of these commentators are talking, but Lamar is not. So, how does anyone know what discussion is taking place with Lamar. All of us will be surprised when a deal is announced.

  • @legitdragon6202
    @legitdragon6202 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm not even a Lions fan, but getting Lamar would be crazy for them. I know Goff has been great, but the hypothetical would definitely be interesting.

    • @Ash-lf6to
      @Ash-lf6to ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is the main problem with nearly every team. It's mainly because every team knows they'll need to change close to their whole scheme and move a lot of their roster to maximize Lamar's talent. On top of that you are paying a boatload of money to bank on a guy you aren't even sure would work with your team plus not seeing a whole lot of post season success to justify what you are going all out for.

    • @calvinburnett1025
      @calvinburnett1025 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you just say Goff has been great?? 😂 that’s laughable

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@calvinburnett1025 Golfs passing numbers have been better than Lamar the last 2 seasons. Jokes on you. Haha. Now come with excuses about receivers and the OC.

    • @calvinburnett1025
      @calvinburnett1025 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@soda8736 Goff is a bum. Lamar is a former mvp. Lamar’s teams were in first the last two years before he got injured. Sir that’s a terrible comparison. You should be ashamed

    • @soda8736
      @soda8736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@calvinburnett1025 the former MVP argument is played. I said the last two years and if Golf is such a bum ,but has more playoff success and better passing stats the last 2 years , what is Lamar ? And I'm not saying he's a bum like you are saying Golf is . But y'all to relax with Lamar is elite talk.

  • @punch-np5gi
    @punch-np5gi ปีที่แล้ว

    I'ma 90s baby Lamar more vick than he is McNabb McNabb went to one vick only got soooo far

  • @antoinegauthier7027
    @antoinegauthier7027 ปีที่แล้ว

    30 years only once has someone gave up 2 1st rounders, if I was Lamar I’d either sit out

  • @tynosille6747
    @tynosille6747 ปีที่แล้ว

    After seeing how fast running qb cam Newton fizzled owners are leary of running qbs and for good reason!

  • @josephlemieux1248
    @josephlemieux1248 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep Blackmon. He fits, as Slick has. Bye, Bye, Joy.

  • @alexcorrea4828
    @alexcorrea4828 ปีที่แล้ว

    Him and his mother are both completely uneducated trying to work out a deal like this

  • @kybernetic8
    @kybernetic8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here comes another segment for Shady and co to shill out for Lamar. yay.

  • @jerrymcgrath4294
    @jerrymcgrath4294 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Lamar gets paid what he’s worth he’ll be eat at McDonald’s a lot.

  • @bishopbraziel4536
    @bishopbraziel4536 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ron rivera had came newton eric bienemy would call the plays

  • @LPProductionsInc2020
    @LPProductionsInc2020 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven't even won a SB and they want Al that 🤑. Not hating is a fact. Win a SB.

  • @jacobmorales262
    @jacobmorales262 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Lamar is proving to all of us that we can’t be good guys- good guys get used, no matter how bright the spotlight💯💯💯

    • @to4316
      @to4316 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      How is Lamar a good guy? He's being selfish and immature.

    • @slimmike56
      @slimmike56 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

    • @derrickmason7457
      @derrickmason7457 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nothing to do with a good guy bad guy no team has offered to come out and pay what he thought he could get that means he can only play ball with Baltimore since they have the right to tag him or he has to sign the deal they proposed

    • @REALG444
      @REALG444 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a idiotic comment 😂

    • @darrellwhite1159
      @darrellwhite1159 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@to4316 you’re being selfish and immature, he wants what he deserves. Is Russel Wilson better or Deshawn Watson 🤫

  • @justdust7964
    @justdust7964 ปีที่แล้ว

    Teams ask if he has a agent and he says no talk to my mama SHANIQUA

  • @markusmolnar8701
    @markusmolnar8701 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude sells some stale wine for 5.99 😂🤣

  • @buckdraper303
    @buckdraper303 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lamar should try and sign with the Ravens. This is the team that originally believed in him and wanted to build around him. They still do.

    • @chrismiller755
      @chrismiller755 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facts everybody else passed on him

  • @joshchavez8614
    @joshchavez8614 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ravens at this point need to trade him not because I’m on their side they’ve probably made it that he doesn’t even want to be there anymore. That’s the downside of not having an agent you have to hear all their complaints and concerns to the fave

    • @derrickmason7457
      @derrickmason7457 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would a team take him if that team that trades for him doesn’t wana pay him the money he’s asking for

    • @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
      @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 ปีที่แล้ว

      You cannot trade someone not under contract.

    • @joshchavez8614
      @joshchavez8614 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 he is under the nonexclusive tag they can trade him for 2 first rounds or match a contract if one were offered

  • @jamesz7415
    @jamesz7415 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which way is it then Shady? Those injury conversations did happen according to Schefters report and jumped the 133 to 175 and additional jump to 200m down the line in guarantees if healthy.. Guy overplayed his hand with no representation.

  • @markymark512
    @markymark512 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indy should trade for him

  • @bgood2lifealways36
    @bgood2lifealways36 ปีที่แล้ว

    News Inquiry to the host of Speak, panel Naysayers, and listeners, do I stand to be corrected by saying Lamar Jackson not only put himself behind the 8 ball by not having an agent to help negotiate a new contract with the Ravens or any other NFL team. it can also possibly hurt him to establish a marketing brand with major corporations to advertise their products. That said, is Lamar the only player with an MVP on his resume in the history of professional sports to not have a national marketing contract. Just a Talkie Talk opinion on how something is wrong with this picture.

  • @michaelevans1588
    @michaelevans1588 ปีที่แล้ว

    he turned down 133 million nuts

  • @Kharmatos13
    @Kharmatos13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lamar to the Colts then with the picks take Anthony Richardson and Jaxson Smith-Njigba and literally replace Lamar.

  • @fabianmoye7919
    @fabianmoye7919 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lamar jackson is confused

  • @survivethrive2468
    @survivethrive2468 ปีที่แล้ว

    "My sources tell me Lamar Jackson will be signing 📝 a long term fully guaranteed contract working at a burger 🍔 king 👑 near u. "
    Per ESPNs Adam schefter

  • @SunniMerlot
    @SunniMerlot ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He’s getting 100+ no matter the scenario so that’s a W period

    • @mumblezz__5890
      @mumblezz__5890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmaooo y’all delusional idiots finally realizing he not getting nothing fully guaranteed for more than 3

    • @Ash-lf6to
      @Ash-lf6to ปีที่แล้ว

      Guess he didn't want a W last off season.

    • @JoelGarcia-lu3tw
      @JoelGarcia-lu3tw ปีที่แล้ว

      He wants more than that. He wants 200+, which is ridiculous

    • @steelbltz
      @steelbltz ปีที่แล้ว

      Swear idky he doesn't just take that, 133mill is nice🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @whitewhale9012
      @whitewhale9012 ปีที่แล้ว

      He could have had that 2 years ago. Thats why hes an idiot.

  • @Caleb-ue2jv
    @Caleb-ue2jv ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems to me that teams don’t think he can win with his throwing ability or run anything but a simple option/RPO offense
    Yeah he won MVP like 4 years ago running that type of offense…but he hasn’t been in the MVP conversation since. He messed up by not cashing in sooner

  • @WizzRacing
    @WizzRacing ปีที่แล้ว

    To quote Wolf of Wall street. There is no sense of urgency for him. On another team. As his contract buyout cost to much..
    why timing is everything..

  • @bluesky7333
    @bluesky7333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lamar bet on himself the last two years and sh*t the bed. He doesn't deserve anywhere close to 50mil guaranteed with what he produced over the last two years. He might have played himself here.