Really? So you can't afford a measly $35.00 for a TEN YEAR license in order to help the FCC better cope with the plethora of horrible operators on the ham bands? You might be better suited to a hobby such as coin collecting.....
Josh it appears to me that they have already done the automation and now they are looking to fairly spread the cost among all users of the ULS system. Many current users of ULS currently pay fees, but Amateurs don’t. Nearly everything done to your license is automated now... from initial licenses to upgrades to vanity callsigns. For license work most of the automation is at the VEC level where they submit new and upgrades online. I find $50 to be a little steep if it is a per transaction fee, but entirely reasonable if it gives me online access for 10 years including all transactions.
Collapse your whip to attenuate things! I ordered one of these, doing 144mhz weak signal(EME, Tropo...)I need to power line trash hunt almost constantly. If it is within 1/2 mile I can hear it LOUD and that can cover a weak signal. Going to add a tape measure yagi to the input for directional testing.
Super awesome technology and I'm all "ooh nice little SMA antenna" This is a cool piece. Thanks Josh your videos make me think about stuff which I like and need. 73 de N2NLQ
I know this would NOT be ideal, but could I use this to tune one of those cheap Chinese cavity duplexers? Doesn't need to be perfect, just functional for my needs.
Oh boy, going to have LOT's of those MINI SA's being returned with blown front ends from people that connect their radios directly or just having way too much RF and too close. Sure wish they had these gizmos 50yrs ago! LOL. Still going to buy one tho, as time goes on it will only get better AND much lighter than all my boat anchor's 73 N8AUM
The density of the metal probably has more to do with it's shielding ability than its conductivity. You're not looking to conduct, you're looking to block an electro magnetic wave
@@HamRadioCrashCourse I don't know. There must have been one or two somewhere back there... Right? T.V. rule no. 1: The "good ole days" were the best !!! T.V. rule no. 2: The "good ole days" ended a week before you got here. There are more. But those are the ones that count.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Hahaha. Touche. Do you have any idea for doing pass through of Ethernet and 2 small usb extensions? I’m trying to do wifi testing and need to isolate out external networks while generating a network within the cage.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse I was just noticing that it looks like the can has some sort of liner inside it when you you were testing the can. Did you add something there or did the liner come with the can...or am I seeing something that isn't there?
TACACN1: While these tests are great your forgetting EMP's E1-E3 pulses are not 5W or 100W its like 50KV/m [50 kilo-volts per meter !] this is many orders of magnitude bigger. You would have to use like 100000watts+ next to your can to simulate- test it I would think. There is still huge value tho in doing this just depends on how close you are vs shielding.
[I think 120 Watts only gives 250 V/m] where a nuke is in KV/m [further to the material the conductivity and skin effect comes into play alloy would be better -copper best. +Higher wavelengths like UHF are smaller and get into the cracks.]
Maybe for a quick and dirty test the Tactical trash can at higher frequencies you can just put a cell phone in it and see if you can call it when you are very close to a cell tower. If you can use a GSM-1800 mobile it will be high enough and if it works you'll also know that you can protect yourself from the big-brother tracking of your phone if required, since with most new phoned you can't remove the battery any more... If you have a 5GHz Wifi device you can try even better, I don't think you stop that though the wavelength is very very short then...
I'm against the fee because it will force many amateurs out and create an elitist class of radio owners. It they presist in forcing a fee, then I propose that the FCC pay a fee to every amateur that participates in ARES and for any emergency operations that benifit the government. You want to charge for your time then I should be able to charge for my time
We put my cellphone in the can during the After Chat and no calls came through!
This was a "shielding effectiveness" test of the trash can. Tnx for posting de KT1R
If they do impose a fee (I agree that it's a bad idea) the license should be a lifetime, no need to renew.
We are non-profit. We help our municipalities with communications for no fee. We should not have license fee.
Really? So you can't afford a measly $35.00 for a TEN YEAR license in order to help the FCC better cope with the plethora of horrible operators on the ham bands? You might be better suited to a hobby such as coin collecting.....
Demoncrats love taxes and fees.
It never ends and never benefits taxpayers.
73
Or is that $73?
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@@darrellhagan6124 what I stated is fact. You are sharing opinion. $35 isn't measly to some people negative Ned....
@@PowderMill you got that right!
@@scottgarvy You're missing my point. But it makes no difference anyway because no matter which way it goes it will never please everyone I'm afraid.
Josh it appears to me that they have already done the automation and now they are looking to fairly spread the cost among all users of the ULS system. Many current users of ULS currently pay fees, but Amateurs don’t. Nearly everything done to your license is automated now... from initial licenses to upgrades to vanity callsigns. For license work most of the automation is at the VEC level where they submit new and upgrades online. I find $50 to be a little steep if it is a per transaction fee, but entirely reasonable if it gives me online access for 10 years including all transactions.
Man, I missed the live. Hope to catch your next one
Collapse your whip to attenuate things! I ordered one of these, doing 144mhz weak signal(EME, Tropo...)I need to power line trash hunt almost constantly. If it is within 1/2 mile I can hear it LOUD and that can cover a weak signal. Going to add a tape measure yagi to the input for directional testing.
Would be interesting to test the trash can without the lid gasket, see how much difference it really makes.
Go ahead.
Super awesome technology and I'm all "ooh nice little SMA antenna" This is a cool piece.
Thanks Josh your videos make me think about stuff which I like and need.
73 de N2NLQ
There are untold numbers of utilities and others who would pay [millions $$$] willingly to get Ham frequencies.
Yes, you are correct!
How can i measure an electric motor. Like what frequencies would i plug-in?
Added the beer to tap hunter. Hope it shows up near me soon
I know this would NOT be ideal, but could I use this to tune one of those cheap Chinese cavity duplexers? Doesn't need to be perfect, just functional for my needs.
Oh boy, going to have LOT's of those MINI SA's being returned with blown front ends from people that connect their radios directly or just having way too much RF and too close. Sure wish they had these gizmos 50yrs ago! LOL. Still going to buy one tho, as time goes on it will only get better AND much lighter than all my boat anchor's 73 N8AUM
The density of the metal probably has more to do with it's shielding ability than its conductivity. You're not looking to conduct, you're looking to block an electro magnetic wave
Cost based is fine if we can choose who to hire. If they don’t allow a free market, no dice. They pay too much and we got the bill with no say.
Magnetic insulation is made of layers of magnetic and non-magnetic metals. and a pole of a magnet attached to the surface like you did.
You may want to look at all of your comments down below! The same thing happened to a metal detecting channel that just posted a video!
Huh?
This is typical. As soon as I get into something (like ham radio) suddenly everything changes, and the good old days end.
What “good days”?
@@HamRadioCrashCourse I don't know. There must have been one or two somewhere back there... Right?
T.V. rule no. 1: The "good ole days" were the best !!!
T.V. rule no. 2: The "good ole days" ended a week before you got here.
There are more. But those are the ones that count.
I’d say almost everything has been changes for the better.
Is there a way to achieve the 100db attenuation without an insane amount of work?
Most military levels call for 60-75db. If you’re closer you’re dead. 😬
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Hahaha. Touche. Do you have any idea for doing pass through of Ethernet and 2 small usb extensions? I’m trying to do wifi testing and need to isolate out external networks while generating a network within the cage.
I am sure there is likely a way, but I don’t know how. Sorry.
Is the trash can like a Faraday Cage?
Yes exactly.
confused , here you said it has to be steel but in othe videos you said steel or aluminum
Either will work. Steel preferred.
I noticed a magnet on the lid. Is it part of magnetic shielding? OR is part of the self sealing mechanism?
Nah. The magnet was just there to stick the ground wire to the can body for testing. Not normally there.
Nice show Josh! 73's from TX N1LRF
Yeah I'll have to buy one of those cans somewhere cheap if the FCC starts dipping into our pockets for crazy fees...
I have been hearing a lot of concerns and people returning the TinySA. Is it worth getting one.
I haven't had an issue. I am not sure what other people are having occur.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse TH-cam IMSAI Guy 10/16/2020
It looks like you lined the inner container with something. What is that? Does it provide extra EMP protection?
Why do I need an inner container?
@@HamRadioCrashCourse I was just noticing that it looks like the can has some sort of liner inside it when you you were testing the can. Did you add something there or did the liner come with the can...or am I seeing something that isn't there?
Ah, I covered that at the end of the EMP kit video I posted earlier in the week. There is cardboard and light packing material.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Cool. Thanks for the reply and what you do for the hobby.
The low cost does not matter, it’s the foot in the door to boil the frog as it were.
TACACN1: While these tests are great your forgetting EMP's E1-E3 pulses are not 5W or 100W its like 50KV/m [50 kilo-volts per meter !] this is many orders of magnitude bigger. You would have to use like 100000watts+ next to your can to simulate- test it I would think. There is still huge value tho in doing this just depends on how close you are vs shielding.
[I think 120 Watts only gives 250 V/m] where a nuke is in KV/m [further to the material the conductivity and skin effect comes into play alloy would be better -copper best. +Higher wavelengths like UHF are smaller and get into the cracks.]
Lol, I’m in a garage. I’m working with what I have. Yes, this is absolutely predicated on distance from blast.
GMRS is $70 for 10 years...I have one.
Where do you get the TinySA for the best price in U.S.?
Check timysa.org “where to buy”
Maybe for a quick and dirty test the Tactical trash can at higher frequencies you can just put a cell phone in it and see if you can call it when you are very close to a cell tower. If you can use a GSM-1800 mobile it will be high enough and if it works you'll also know that you can protect yourself from the big-brother tracking of your phone if required, since with most new phoned you can't remove the battery any more... If you have a 5GHz Wifi device you can try even better, I don't think you stop that though the wavelength is very very short then...
We did it on the after chat. Phone didn’t have any signal. Could not take the call. 🤘
@@HamRadioCrashCourse That's great!
Maybe time for some ferrites on all the mic and cam cables?
Implying there isn’t?
@@HamRadioCrashCourse LOL figured there might be!
Oh yeah, I think all does. 70cm can be a lot to handle though with regards to interference to other devices though.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse when I point over theh ouse with 750 watts on 432 the computer speakers talk back, the stereo picks it up...
I'm against the fee because it will force many amateurs out and create an elitist class of radio owners. It they presist in forcing a fee, then I propose that the FCC pay a fee to every amateur that participates in ARES and for any emergency operations that benifit the government. You want to charge for your time then I should be able to charge for my time
Great video KC9QVE AMATEUR EXTRA MARION,INDIANA