K-OG reacts to THE RISE OF BANGTAN | Chapter 03: House of Cards [Reaction]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2023
- I was not even sure if I should upload this one. A lot of serious issues were being thrown in. As usual, I am afraid I talked too much but in a way I felt like I did not say enough. These subjects are so layered and complicated. Also, I do not have an answer. Just an opinion. I had so much back and forth between the viewers and I am kind of afraid that some people would be unhappy about some statements. I will try to explain further if you guys leave them in the comments. I felt I was not articulate enough to share all my thoughts. You guys can bare with me and I will get to them eventually too.
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Some of the things you said in the video reminded me of RM giving an interview to a Spanish journalist and some of the things he said about Korean culture and K-pop:
"Interviewer: That cult of youth, of perfection, of the overexertion of K-pop... are they Korean cultural traits?
RM: In the West people just don't get it. Korea is a country that has been invaded, razed, split in two. Only 70 years ago there was nothing. We received help from the IMF and the UN. But now, the whole world is looking at Korea. How is it possible, how did it happen? Because people work fucking hard to improve. You are in France or the UK, countries that have been colonizing others for centuries, and you come to me with “oh my gosh, you put so much pressure on yourselves, life in Korea is so stressful!”. Well yes. This is how things are achieved. And it's part of what makes K-pop so appealing. Although of course there are shadows, everything that happens very quickly and very intensely has side effects."
Anyways... thank you for the reaction. I always appreciate your point of view on things plus you are fun to watch🤗
Have a nice day💜
He said that? He is a better man than I. I got nothing to lose but was too careful in expressing my views. Wow
@@komerican-og Yes sir. Namjoon said that. You can check all his interviews I think it’s all 3 interviews from big Spanish newspapers. Namjoon is indeed so amazing in those articles.
@@komerican-og Yes, and it was recent. I’m so proud of him. I’ve been to the exhibit in LA Contemporary Museum of Art last year for the Korean art that RM did audio narration for and learned from observing and reading the art descriptions related to the history. I also listened to this long podcast that covered the events in Korean history. So when I read RM’s response in that interview, I knew what he was talking about and it was good to hear from his perspective. Why should we judge by how hard Koreans work to achieve? It’s like as if, from western perspective, “Don’t go run past me in this race” so they gaslight with “You’re trying too hard” as a way to say you’re “doing something sneaky” or “cheating/manipulating.” They’re just afraid of being behind on being innovative or doing well. I learned so much from knowing BTS, and that’s just one part of it.
@SnapCracklyPop Thank you so much for encouraging words. I learned that every culture has its story and how they became who they are. Even though I understand, I might like or dislike certain aspects. And I think that is OK. However, one should never discredit or judge others with my own standards prejudice. Thanks for understanding 🙏
I appreciate you taking the time to provide context and clarity to the nuanced issues mentioned in these videos. I’m a 56 year old ARMY who lives in the US and while I’ve been lucky enough to visit Korea many times, I never really grasped the differences in such a meaningful way. Many of us want to understand and are grateful that you care enough to share.
My heart 💔 goes out to all that suffer in silence bc that's all they know to do. You nailed it when you spoke of there being an imbalance of things. Too much of any one thing can become toxic or lead to domino effects. And there is no exact formula, in my opinion for everything to stay in balance at all times. The bad times make us appreciate the better times. And that makes us be more empathetic humans. RM displays an amazing amount of wisdom and maturity at such a young age, and just like the balance thing, he has been that way since debut, so when wildflower came out, I knew in my heart that he was feeling extremely overwhelmed with the level of global popularity that he has. The pressures of that must be enourmos 😔 Those young energetic kids back then who were excited to just do what they loved to do, had no idea what this would turn into! 💜 I really admire and respect them immensely. 😊
Please don't apologize for taking the time to share your thoughts and feelings on the things covered in "Rise". I find your comments very interesting, and they help add another layer of understanding for those of us watching. I am a 54 year old, female ARMY, from New Zealand 🇳🇿, and I love listening to your comments.💜
After all, these are your reactions, so if something sparks a train of thought for you, I say run with it. You add an interesting, and personal, level of context to the issues mentioned in the video. So be yourself, and talk for as long, and often, as you want. We are here to share you're journey with you; watch your - honest - reactions.
And I, for one, am really enjoying watching you discover The Rise Of Bangtan - and all that entails. Borahae 💜
Thank you so much. There is only one year difference. I always wanted to visit your beautiful country. Especially after the Lord of the Rings series. Some.day....
I wonder how all those people who were hating on them feel now after BTS became global artists.
Lol Karma. What comes around goes around. They feel really really stupid and can not even go near BTS.
Army will never forget/forgive b-free. Tiger JK and Tablo (+Epik High) are always beloved to army. Also about school/suicide rates…when army tells you that BTS saved their life, we mean it literally. A lyric reached us at just the right time.
Thank god for that. Bless them
- Thank you for sharing with us the origin and meaning of the "hundred day" in Korea, you're insights are precious, always informative. .
- The "diss interview" still get on my nerves but RM and Suga was so impressive. The subject was about the différence/or bridge between underground hip hop and Idols, but RM was not expecting such an ambush , specially because some of those in attendance were his friends when he was undergound, but no one spoke up for him. RM was only 20 years old and some of those men were at least 10 years older! The way he reply to B Free " If that's how you feel about it then you can feel that way" shows how patient and smart he is. He was hurt but moved on from it, as he always do. He work hard, and solve this identity crisis between idol and artist. (And Suga too, he was less expressive about that, but he said recently how proud he is now to be an Idol). I’ have a huge respect for RM as a person and as a leader. At such a young age, he could see the bigger picture and decided to accept the challenges that come with it. His goals were very clear to him -- bring out the artist in him by breaking in to the idol system and eventually challenge the system itself. (as Bang PD wanted them to do, when he created Big Hit, he openly stated he didn't like the system that the Idol industry had created and he wanted to do better. ) Besides the Cypher and others diss track using by the rapline to respond to the haters, and B-Free particularly , they have mostly proove by their work that BTS are undeniably artists & musicians. Eyeliner, jewellery or skirt they sometimes wear on stage back in time (mostly RM, Suga and J hope) could never change this fact. Rock stars in my youth all have heavy make up, very long hair and plateform shoes ! and so what ? Rockstar reborn, as Tiger JK said in the first episode !
- Irony of the history : B Free (who was not so free because he went to jail years after, it's call Karma) said to Suga "You thought you could change your outcome by becoming an idol?” And yes, they did. BTS didn’t just changed their lives, they literally built an empire out of a small company, break the rules in the K pop industry and changed the global music and pop culture just by doing what they love , with the help and love of their dédicated fandom.
Sorry to be this long, I'm sometimes talkative😄 - I love to rewatch this série with you. How young they all looked, how hard they worked and how hungry they were for people to hear their music and relate to their words. Knowing how far they've come from those early years warm my heart.
Thanks to NOT SO Bfree we got the cyphers and dis tracks I truly love. 🙌 Gave me chills
I really appreciate your reactions and your insights on the Korean culture, because we international Armys who love BTS have tried very hard to understand and love Korea, and to put into perspective many cultural aspects that are not easy to comprehend, that is why your thoughts and explanations add so much more to our journey loving everything K. I hope you continue this journey with us. Kamsamida
It always bothered me that there wasn't enough content that really got into cultural things that great fans like you craved. It was one of the reasons I started this channel, so I am so happy that you guys appreciate it.
I don't think you talk too much, I always appreciate you taking the time to clarify or give some context on the korean culture. 💜
Thanks for uploading the video! I'm not sure what transpired previously in the comments, but I encourage you to continue to continue to share your thoughts, it's nice to hear the opinions of someone who is very familiar with the culture.
I understand being careful and/or apprehensive at times about how the culture and country are portrayed in the series, because the media can so often discuss these topics from a very singular / simple perspective, not fully depicting the complexity of the issues at hand, and perhaps only depicting the negative parts of topics. Every country has their unique societal issues that they need to deal, but often from those unique struggles, amazing things are also born. Many of us around the world wouldn't have the BTS we know and love today if they weren't a part of that culture. I've certainly learned a lot for them, and they're a great source of inspiration for me. I admire the work ethic of the society, and strive to work a fraction as hard.
I will say I think the original creators of The Rise of Bangtan tried their best to depict the complexities of the issues touched upon without making broad conclusions, especially since they used only existing materials to create the series, and didn't create any of the materials from scratch. It is up to the viewers to delve deeper into these topics, and not simply draw broad conclusions, stereotype or generalise these issues.
This is a great work to be admired. Born out of love. As you have stated it is some of those media who simplify or sensationalize subjects. But I do understand that the media often don't really have time to get into depth.
The creators’s name is Anessia just so you guys know 😉💜
@@amberpearce710 yes she is an awesome lady! I admire and am so grateful to her and all those that worked on the Rise of Bangtan series! That's even another reason that I love those Bangtan ( men now) so much, bc from their innocent true to themselves characters that have brought so many good ppl together from all over the globe. 💜🤗
32:00 I agree completely and I think the distinction you're drawing is between a public figure & a public servant.
To me, a public servant is someone who is paid/compensated out of public funds (e.g. taxes, charitable donations, etc.), and who is responsible for creation, enforcement and/or interpretation of the rules (i.e. laws, regulation), that govern society as a whole. Those two things are key, I think, to determining the extent to which people in those professions are obligated to be answerable to public opinion with regard to their conduct in public and, to a lesser extent, in private. Examples would include politicians, civil servants, judges, police officers, fire fighters.
Next, I think there are professions which straddle a line between public service & simply being in the public eye. People like teachers (esp. of elementary & high school aged children), medical professionals, librarians - they're not all paid with public money & they have varying degrees of responsibility toward the general public, so I think it's less important that their private conduct comports with the highest image standards, or that it be open to public scrutiny.
Lastly, I think public figures, such as entertainers & athletes, have very little obligation toward the public with regard to how they behave in private, precisely because they have little or no responsibility or input into things like public policy, laws or even cultural norms. Creative artists, in particular, bear the responsibility of testing & stretching the boundaries of what's considered acceptable public & private behaviour.
An important hallmark of whether a society is open & democratic as opposed to closed & authoritarian, is its treatment of artists and, by extension, art. Censorship & repression are obvious indicators that a society isn't free; less obvious, but still key, is the degree to which cultural & societal norms are enforced against creative thinkers vs. how much actual public servants are held to those same standards. When, for example, the top executives in the federal government or at a private corp. like Hyundai or Samsung are held to a lesser standard of private conduct than a Pop music singer or television actor, I think it's fair to conclude that something is out of whack.
Of course, Confucianism has a huge impact on South Korea's norms in this regard, but I would argue that SK's relatively recent history of right-wing authoritarianism has also played a role in training its citizens to both value & enforce social conformity above individual freedom. Koreans went from long-term cultural colonization by China to brutal occupation by Japan to a vicious proxy war cloaked as a civil conflict, to being governed by a military junta + economic collapse, then ostensible democratic governance - all within roughly a hundred years, give or take. That's an insane amount of social turmoil for any society, let alone one that has been struggling for millennia to maintain its indigenous cultural heritage.
Do you think that social media influencers play a part in today's world as well?
Thank you for giving more contexts to us who are not very familiar with Korea and the culture! Please continue to talk a lot, I’m learning and enjoying this series with you! 💜
wow John, I am enoying these so much. keep them coming
Always enjoy your commentary and insight. Thanks for doing these!
This episode hits me the hardest of the whole series of Rise of Bangtan. Born in Korea, by the time I was in elementary school, I was going to school and having private lessons (piano, math, speech, art) that filled my day from 8am-8pm. And having had two cousins going to Seoul University, the pressure to be "excellent" was very apparent. The COMPETITIVENESS is top notch in Korea - and that's why everything and everyone has to be the best (perfect). Students have insane schedule of studying to get to SKY, just like idols have strict schedules and training just to debut. And the lyrics to "N.O" hits home. Thankfully, my family moved to America after I finished elementary school. And I was able to see the comparison.. but if I had stayed in Korea, I would think that the pressure and stress was normal. BTS and Seo Taeji are the two artists who really addressed this issue - and that makes them special to my heart.
You have a very similar experience as I. Remeber how ridiculously easy math was? School load in US was not heavy at all. My thing was I had to watch my two children go through the whole thing. I was even afraid to make noise when they were home. 😅 Thank god they went through it OK. I Think.....
Thanks so much for you comments and the context that a 54yo Army from the US needs. Keep doing what you’re doing! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Appreciate your perspectives, the comments you make are always relevant so I personally don't mind you pausing, it adds to the conversation!
Thanks for the reaction!
I love your channel! I have been a subscriber since the beginning. I am an American and live in Pennsylvania and i love your channel, because I love how you explain South Korean culture in a way we can understand it. I love learning about new places and people. I am also a 55 year old grandmother who loves BTS! I am a HUGE ARMY! So thank you for this channel!
Lucky you. I have no idea my kids will ever have kids. Lol One serving and the other just finished college. I wanna be a grandpa...so bad
If you have more thoughts on it, you are more than welcome to share them. It's always a pleasure to listen to your insights and opinions.
Your knowledge and experience really add to the understanding of this documentary and of Korean society in general. Thanks again!
The 100 Days story has its own Korean uniqueness and dimension -it's nice to learn that-, however, a parallel exists in Europe. Before the invention of vaccination, infant mortality was also very high and children were not baptized or even named until they were one year old.
I really enjoy your reactions (and sorry if I'm often too off topic). You don't speak too much, it's all the interest for me!
스페인 언론의 무례한 질문에 대한 남준의 인터뷰가 아래 기사에 나와 있어요. 링크를 달았더니 유튭에서 삭제하는 듯 하여, RM이 했던 한국어 원문으로 전문을 드립니다ㅎㅎ 이걸 읽고 나서 새삼, 남준이 정말 대단한 청년이라고 생각했어요. 방탄이 세계적인 그룹이 될 수 있었던 수많은 이유가 있지만 RM 같은 사유의 깊이와 단단한 심지를 가진 사람이 리더라는 것도 분명 큰 이유 중 하나라고 생각합니다~ ^^ (한국과 KPOP을 무시하고 '부정적인 면'을 Rm의 입에서 이끌어 내려고 했던 의도적인 인터뷰어에게 저렇게 정면에서 고급스럽게 한방을.. ㅎㅎ)
- “왜 그렇게 노력하냐고?” 식민지배했던 나라에 방탄 ‘RM’이 날린 한 방
< 다음은 방탄소년단 RM과 스페인 매체 엘 파이스(El Pais)의 인터뷰 중 관련 내용 전문입니다. >
기자: (인디고 앨범 수록곡 ‘Yun’의) 노래 시작이 “F*** the trendsetter. Back the time, far to when I was nine. 좋은 것과 아닌 것밖에 없던 그때. 차라리 그때가 더 인간이었던 듯해”라는 가사로 시작합니다. K-POP의 엄청난 성공에는 아티스트를 비인간적으로 대하는 점도 있다는 의미인가요?
RM(방탄소년단): 한국 아티스트는 굉장히 어린 나이에 그룹의 한 멤버로서 커리어를 시작합니다. 개인으로 살 시간은 거의 없죠. 하지만 그런 삶이 k-pop을 빛나게 합니다. 그들은 아주 젊고 엄청난 노력을 해요. 오직 20대 때에만 가질 수 있는 에너지를 발산합니다. 밤낮을 가리지 않고 완벽한 안무를 위해, 뮤직비디오를 위해, 그리고 음악을 위해 자신과 싸우고 마침내 폭발하고, 빅뱅을 만들어 냅니다. 우리 멤버들은 20대와 30대의 모든 에너지와 시간을 BTS에 쏟았죠. 성공, 사랑, 영향력, 파워를 얻었지만 그 후에 남는 건 모든 것의 근본입니다. 바로 음악.
기자: (기획사의) 시스템이 비인간적인가요?
RM(방탄소년단): 회사가 이런 질문에 대해 답하는 걸 좋아하지 않을 겁니다. 왜냐하면 저도 일부 동의하는 점도 있지만, 나중에 언론에서는 거두절미하고 “젊은이들을 망가뜨리는 끔찍한 시스템”이라고 보도할 테니까요. 하지만 어떻게 보면 그 점이 바로 이 산업을 굉장히 독특하게 만들기도 합니다. 그리고 이젠 계약이라든가, 정산, 교육적인 측면에서도 많이 개선되고 있습니다. 전담 강사도 있고 심리상담사도 있어요.
기자: 말씀하신 젊음과, 완벽주의, K-POP을 위한 엄청난 노력. 이런 것들이 한국 문화의 특징인가요?
RM(방탄소년단): 서양 사람들은 이해 못 합니다. 한국은 침략당하고, 파괴되었고, 둘로 갈라진 나라입니다. 70년 전만 해도 아무것도 없던 나라입니다. 우린 IMF와 UN의 원조를 받았어요. 하지만 지금은 전 세계가 한국을 주목하고 있죠. 이게 어떻게 가능한가? 그건 바로 우리 국민들이 더 나은 삶을 위해 혹독하게 일하기 때문입니다.
프랑스나 영국처럼 수 세기 동안 다른 나라를 식민지화했던 나라의 사람이 저를 보고 "세상에, 한국 사람들은 스스로를 너무 압박해요, 한국에서의 삶은 너무 스트레스가 많네요!"라고 하죠. 그래요. 우린 그렇게 목표를 달성해왔거든요. 그리고 이 방식이 K-POP을 그토록 매력적으로 만드는 점의 일부이기도 합니다. 물론 그 이면에는 부작용도 있겠죠. 모든 일이 그렇듯이요.
기자: K-POP에 대한 가장 큰 편견은 무엇일까요?
RM(방탄소년단): 조립식이라는 점이겠죠.
기자: 만약 다른 나라나 다른 환경에서 자랐다면 뭘 하고 있었을까요?
RM(방탄소년단): 전 종종 멀티버스에 대해 생각해요. 그런데 닥터 스트레인지의 교훈은 항상 같죠. ‘너의 우주가 최고다, 다른 것을 생각하지 마’라는 거요. BTS의 멤버가 되는 것보다 더 좋은 건 없습니다.
기자: ‘K-’ 로 명명되는 꼬리표가 지겨운 건 없나요?
RM(방탄소년단): 스포티파이(Spotify)에서 우릴 K-pop이라고 하는 것이 지겨울 순 있지만 효과가 있어요. 프리미엄 마크라고 봅니다. 우리의 선조들이 싸워 일궈낸 우리의 퀄리티에 대한 일종의 인증마크예요.
기자: 수많은 팬덤이 따르는 것에 대한 부담이 크진 않나요?
RM(방탄소년단): 자신에게 적용되는 기준에 의해 인정받고, 그 무게를 지지 않고서는 어떤 일도 할 수 없죠. 그래서 “아, 난 그냥 평범하게 살고 싶은데!” 하고 불평할 게 아니라 성숙해져야 하고 무게감을 느껴야 합니다. 자, 만약 인기가 돌덩이(짐)라고 생각하고 싶으면, 그냥 단지 돌덩이일 뿐이에요. 하지만 제게는 제가 바라던 걸 얻게 해줬어요. 바로 인기 차트에 연연하지 않고 제가 원하는 음악을 하기 위해 가능한 한 빨리 경제적 자유와 영향력을 얻게 해준 거죠. 그래서 전 거기에 100% 비중을 두진 않고 외부가 아닌 제 안의 소리에 집중하려고 해요.
기자: 이제 서른 살이 되는데 어떠세요?
RM(방탄소년단): 이렇게 혼란스러운 시간은 처음이었어요. 10년 동안 BTS의 리더였는데 굉장히 안정적이고 재밌고, 항상 올라가고 있었죠. 2023년에는 다 말할 수는 없지만 일적으로나 개인적으로도 굉장히 많은 변화가 있었어요. 스무 살 때보다 저는 서른 살이 되는 것이 좋아요. 이제 전 1년 반 동안 군대 생활을 할 예정입니다. 모든 한국 남성들의 삶에서 굉장히 중요한 일이죠. 그 후에 전 다른 사람이 될 것이라고 확신해요. 더 지혜롭고 좋은 사람이 되었으면 합니다.
시원하네요. 누구도 못한 일을 해나길 위해서 희생이 불가피한데 슬프지만 우린 자신들을 희생했을 뿐. 수많은 약자들의 피위에 부를 축적한 국가의 기자가 우리가 도축되는 희생양이라는 논조를 펼치면 정말 욕나옵니다. 젊은 친구들이 다 문제인양 떠드는 늙은 세대도 문제죠. 제발 RM이나 BTS 친구들 발톱만큼이나 하면서 떠들던지. 젊은 세대가 더 좋은 한국 그리고 더 나아가 세상을 만들 미래를 기다해 봅니다
Gracias por tu reacción y tus comentarios son muy valiosos para tratar de entender, gracias!
Me and Im sure a lot of others watching you, are very thankful for your commentary and insight on Korean culture
Thank you for your comments. I appreciate hearing your point of view. I love to see new BTS reactors finding The Rise of Bangtan series. Aneese spent so much time and energy to create these. I wish she would have been able to continue. I think they ended at chapter 22...and then she pulled them off of her YT channel. Enough people reacted to the numerous episodes that people can still find the entire series. Thank you Aneese...I hope you are doing well.
Such professional work. Labor of LOVE....clearly
47:00 et seq. -- young people sacrificing themselves for a better future. This reminds me so much of a famous scene in Little Women, where Jo March is talking with Prof. Bhaer about her upbringing, just before the US Civil War. Her parents belonged to a group of transcendentalists. Jo says, "With all this transcendence comes much emphasis on perfecting oneself. [she pauses] I'm hopelessly flawed." The professor replies, "If only we could transcend ourselves without perfection. ... I think we are all hopelessly flawed." I think striving for goals and challenging oneself are basically good; expecting perfection, not so good.
Someone said... art is knowing that there is no perfection yet striving for it. Something to that effect. This has stuck with me in understanding any artistry.
Thank you John. I've been loving your commentary so far. I often seek out Korean reactors for these insights and "boots on the ground" knowledge.
Korea has progressed so much and there is so much to be proud of and celebrated, but like with all things there is always light and shadow.
Many from western countries also have a dark history/side that culturally we've only just begun to acknowledge.
Everything you said and pointed out makes so much sense. In your previous video, when you shared about seeing the mountains razed really stuck with me and is a perfect example of how a Phoenix rises from the flames.
Thank you for your insights in regards to BTS and this series...I really appreciate the thoughts you've been sharing!
12:14: Hundredth day. My friend who is Chinese-American says 100 days are (or were in the past, I'm not sure) celebrated for Chinese babies as well. In the 19th century in the US, women advised each other, "If you want to raise two children, bear four." Ann Jarvis, whose daughter lobbied for the establishment of Mother's Day in the US in honor of Ann, bore 11 children over 17 years, only four of whom survived to adulthood. We are so fortunate to have better maternal and neonatal health care now!
Amen to that.👍
learning about the reason why 100 days is important to korean culture was so sad. I didn't know that was a thing. i learned a lot about korean culture watching your video. thanks for sharing your countries history and meaning of certain things
I think because in general fans of idols are middle and high schoolers, I'm guessing they need to be "spotless" because they have a huge influence on this demographic. From other interviews, I've seen most of the time by college the fans "grow out" of following idols.
I admit that one thing I'm always confused about is how some koreans react to idols dating. It's so bizzare to me. I always see comments like "these idols are lying to ther fans", "they should just leave a group" and etc.
Maybe it's just a cultural thing that I don't get, but in other countries celebrities are dating just fine.
But with idols it's always a big issue.
These days people are totally fine with them dating. They should at their age. The zealot fans however are another story. Also the companies don't like it since it is bad for business. It is totally unrealistic. While they are condemning idols, all the young people in Korea date like no tomorrow. Ridiculous.
They’re the same with actors too. It this weird entitlement to the singers/actors/etc entire life instead of just their art whatever that art may be
My understanding of this is that idols were- or are- marketed to seem 'available'. The companies, or at least most of them, wanted fans to develop an attachment and loyalty to the group or individual, for obvious reasons: lots of adoring fans means lots of income. So they encouraged this strong emotional reaction by making sure everyone knew the idol/s were single, not taken. The implication being that it might be 'you' who got lucky enough to win them, and even if not, you could ...daydream about being with them, no entanglements or inconveniences.
And that, of course, has given rise to a whole bunch of problematic behavior...that the companies are reluctant to do anything about, because how do they rebuke their fans for going too far and still retain a big fanbase? Especially when they encouraged that behavior in the first place?
I'm not suggesting that it's a purely K-pop thing, of course; problematic fans are everywhere, and many of them (such as 1D fans) are actually very proud of their bad behavior, which makes dealing with them quite difficult.
@@ystrw kinda like the saying of "having your cake and eating too!" 🤗
Kpop started catering almost exclusively to teenage girls at a time when teenage dating was shunned universally. So, it was important to retain this fan base. It has gotten so much better now but still has ways to go. They are people, too.
South Koreans have a lot to be proud of - never apologize for giving your perspectives. Of course there are many things we as foreign fans wish were different for the safety and happiness for BTS and their contemporaries, but to pretend that South Korea's problems are not present in every other developed country is rather one-eyed and ignorant, which is why I find the "dark side of kpop" narrative so deliberately malicious. Yes, let's not turn away from the things that need changing, but let's take constructive action, not do performative gymnastics on SoMe. And let's take a good hard look at what needs changing in our own countries first.
Thank you for your reaction.💜
Thank you very much for a perceptive and realistic comment. We all got problems, even in developed countries. We all just have to keep engaging each other and try to find solutions that will direct us into a better future.
What does the "one eye" concept mean? I saw a quote from RM once that says something like "One-eyed people cannot see the truth of being an idol". I thought that maybe it was a play on words since idol sounds like eye-dol but I got the sense that the concept of "one eye" meant something that I was missing context for. You talking about Korea being a cyclopse society made me remember that.
As much as I'm happy that BTS had such a good award season after their debut, I can't help but think that it painted a giant target on their backs that never left. They kept growing and improving over time but it sucks that they've been facing endless bullying from their teen years and it never stopped ever a decade later. As much as students have it hard, I can see why people focus on how hard idols have it considering that many of them are both idols and students. I can't imagine having to juggle such a demanding workload for school and then try to build your career. Especially when you have to learn totally new skills like singing, rapping, dancing, or some combination of them.
One-eyed means like narrow sighted, "tunnel vision", like these people only see what they wana see. They don't see the whole picture.
Actually, I should have referred to it as the Country of The Blind by HG Wells. In a country of the blind one eyed man might be a king but it turns out he was the weird one. One of the famous short stories that gets quoted when being different results in being disregarded or oppressed... even when it is better or closer to the truth.
NAMJOON SPOKE ABOUT THIS CRITICISM OF KOREAN HE SAID KOREAN HAD TO DO EVERYTHING TO SURVIVE THATS Y THE MIND SET IS DIFFERENT FROM THE WEST COS PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH KOREA HAS ACHIEVE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME . KOREANS HAD NO OTHER OPTIONS BUT TO SUCCESS AT ALL COST COS OF THEIR HISTORY. THANKS FOR PUTTING EVERYTHING IN PERSPECTIVE FOR US
Regarding the 100 day celebration for babies... for the same reasons, us chinese folks and it's diaspora celebrate a baby's full moon i.e. 30 days
Thank god for prenatal care that saves 👶 welcome and hope you enjoy the channel.
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Recently it's been open a school of korean language in my country, and I'm lucky enough to study there, and we receive also special lessons about korean culture and their idiosyncrasy and it's been really a culture shock to me. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything, I learn new things today 💜
Which Latin country are you from, Ms Rodriguez? Your English is very good too 👍
@@komerican-og I'm from Cuba 😁, but my dad taught me english when I was a little girl. I gotta say learning korean is hard, possible, but hard. Saludos desde el Caribe 🤗
@fridarodriguez5033 A beautiful country and culture. I hope to be there one day. Good luck on your studies. It will be a fun journey.
These guys, geesh 😢
Many if us watched RoB several times, your comments add a lot. I love BTS all the more because they love their culture and share it but also try to at least start conversations about what they feel are problems, like studying like machines without real goal, mental health, …
They needed much courage to do so. And that is why they are where they are today.
It's interesting to have your point of vue, but I have to go to work, so I have to quit your live & I will watch your video later!
Thanks for your insight, please do talk as much as you want, it really shows us from the Korean perspective what was going on, and I for one appreciate it. The suicide thing is so moving and sad, I pray for our Korean brothers and sisters that things will continue to improve. You are such hard working people (in general all Asians are, which is to be admired in a way, too much laziness here in the West in my viewpoint) and it's sad to see them thinking this is the only choice.
I am forever thankful for finding BTS, without them I can say I would never have had any interest in my Asian brothers and sisters! Sad really. However because of them my world view has widened even more to a part of the world I never considered before. Now I look at the whole world in a different light and think to myself 'what if there are other beautiful young people out there, that I've never heard of' and now I include them all in my prayers. The world is a big beautiful place and people are generally wonderful, if we let them be.
I love this series, and it's certainly a must for all Army and potential Army's. It does get better though, but Aneesa had to cover this aspect of it. Also xCeleste's Hardship video alongside makes you appreciate what they were all going through at the time, but done in a positive way without the negativity, just showing BTS's journey. They've grown from it, and they show us we can too! 👍👍
Too much talking isn’t something you should feel apologetic about. Especially with themes like this.
Too much talking isn’t something you should feel apologetic about. Especially with themes like this.