Robby vs Miguel vs Hawk | Who is Strongest? (All Season)

[@jasongotcello]

Finally someone who isn't saying Miguel was the best fighters in season 1, as much as I love Miguel

[@Sono_zeraiah]

Bro ong Robby slaps high diff

[@Goku23864]

​@@Sono_zeraiah YOUR MAD THAT ROBBY LOST EVERY FIGHT TO MIGUEL

[@fazzless6882]

​@@Goku23864Dawg it's a show about a 50 yr old caveman who starts a karate school because of his high School rival 💀

[@treywilliams3447]

​@@Goku23864 Miguel lost the prom fight

[@ccl7983]

This is the best Miguel Robby Hawk all seasons video . Giving respect to the ultimate trio

[@AvoiidedScales]

Thanks

[@brandonhood1936]

It would make sense for Robby to be the best in season 6 that way each member of the trio would have 2 sessions at their prime

[@AvoiidedScales]

I agree

[@kellanshaquan2221]

I feel like once Robby and Kenny make amends he'll be in his prime because he'll finally have balance

[@Sono_zeraiah]

No it doesn't unless Miguel gets nerfed again there's no way Robby is gonna be the best

[@kellanshaquan2221]

@zeraiah41064 Robby will definitely be in his prime I predict Chozen is gonna train him the more offense style of Miyagi Do

[@CommentSnitch]

@@kellanshaquan2221 It would make sense for Robby to be trained by Chozen. I’ve always seen Robby as our modern day version of Chozen other than Mike Barnes since they shared similar feats such as taking out students in a dojo, great physique, being delinquents, etc.

[@Aguiasemasa]

Season 6 is gonna be Robby's season

[@Sono_zeraiah]

Obviously but it's not logical

[@Dinetioneditz123]

Wouldn’t make sense he had his moment in s4 Miguel started it he’s gonna finish it

[@yourweirduncle4441]

​@@Dinetioneditz123 well it wad but atleast miguel will win it all a small L for a huge W

[@keithmatzinger7790]

The only reason kreese told hawk Robby is extra strength is because hawk wanted to fight robby and kreese wanted hawk to stay so to avoid hawk fighting robby that’s what kreese told hawk Robby takes season 3

[@MeatFaceGo]

I feel like Miguel's resolve amp was permanent since in season 3 after he gained a resolve amp, he stated he felt better than ever. It probably helped his injury to some degree, but it might also be permanent since Miguel somehow was able to be relative to Robby without both having amps in the pool fight (Also Robby was angry at Miguel for his dad while Miguel just wanted to stop the fight). Miguel at this point permanently increased his physical power since if he went from his S2 self being only like 63kj level to being on the likes of Robby in physical power to possibly >>>100kj since Robby destroyed Miyagi-Do only hawk who destroyed Kyler. The thing with Johnny's resolve amp is that it really isn't; it's like Tory's: an adrenaline amp. It has some resolve amp to some degree, but it's just an adrenaline amp that is temporary. Johnny might of have a perm amp from the resolve though... maybe? Also Miguel and Robby were never either winning while both base anyways in the apartment fight. Miguel landed a blow on Robby first while both were serious but not peak. Robby then realized to go all out, and he sweeped his leg. Miguel stands up and goes all out too. Robby and Miguel were possibly equal at this point since Robby countered with a flurry of kicks that Miguel was cornered into (like what he did to Robby before except there were no doors). Miguel also toyed with Kenny after the resolve amp and literally Kenny was fodder compared to him (he was like no or low diffing him every occasion lmao). Of course Robby was holding back against Kenny, so I don't know if Robby could possibly destroy Kenny like that. At the beginning of S5 they were all equals or just Hawk was at the top, then they gained amps and now Miguel at the end is way more powerful since if he was equal to Hawk who was relative while only Miyagi-do. Then Miguel just no diffing Kenny like he is nothing, and bro can't even get close to him to use the silver bullet since he gets one shotted by Miguel's kicks lmao. It's also possible that Hawk isn't as balanced + aggressive as before which explains why he couldn't dominate Kenny. But I feel like Miguel's resolve amp was permanent since there are so many feats that back it up + his S3 self getting way more powerful like literally 3 shotting Kyler. (He was also in jeans and he was still pretty flexible for a guy who just got out of a wheel chair) There are even more feats that kinda prove Miguel's resolve amp being permanent since a SHOULD BE going all out Hawk for let's say that this is relative or more than S4 Hawk. This Hawk was rammed by Kyler although he was attacked by multiple people before. Then Demetri outperformed this Hawk.... so it's possible that S4 characters might be much more lower than S5 Miguel. It's possible that S5 Hawk is still not as balance+aggressive as before, but I'm gonna have to put him on par with S4 Hawk then Kyler kinda beating him. I'm gonna say that Kyler >~ S4 Hawk/S5 Hawk possibly at this point. Then Demetri >>> Kyler since he one shotted him lmao. Kenny >~ Miyagi-Do only S5 Hawk which is kinda like Miyagi-Do only S4 Hawk level possibly which got destroyed by Robby. But Kenny also destroyed Kyler before (he literally speed blitzed him with his jab), so Kenny >>> Kyler, but Imma put Demetri above Kenny since he has range so he wouldn't be able to hit him with the silver bullet lol. At this point Miguel casually dominated Kenny with no or low difficulty so he's >>>>> Kenny. This literally makes him way above his S4 self since S4 Hawk >> S4 Miguel. Robby at this point was relative to Miguel post-dad amp (yes idk why I added this) while base. Then he had to hold back against Kenny, and HE STILL just threw him away like fodder. But this doesn't put him above Miguel since Miguel just casually one shotting Kenny on the floor like the same amount of time Kenny did to Hawk. For now Miguel post-resolve amp >~ Robby post-brother amp >~ Hypothetical Balanced+Aggressive hybrid style all going out S5 Hawk.
For S3 ofc you now think that Robby would beat Hawk since at this point if post-S3 Robby was able to absolutely destroy the whole dojo which kinda includes Tory too, then Sam was still decently relative but probably way more powerful after being balanced. I mean Sam extreme diffed Tory in S2, so it's possible that if both were base and they both fought (the same Sam low diffed S3 Hawk pre-cobra kai fight) But Kreese stated that Hawk was the best in the dojo currently, then Sam was always unbalanced against Tory. It's also possible that S3 Hawk was conserving his energy against Sam, but I still think Sam would beat him with mid-high difficulty if both were going all out + Sam has balance amp while Hawk has an anger amp. Seeing how Tory did to Balanced Sam. It's possible that S3 Robby might also have been the most powerful at the time with Sam having to extreme diff her because Post-S3 Robby beat Tory with the relative difficulty as Sam. I'd say in a tournament Sam would win, but in a street fight, Robby would win. So here's my list in all seasons:
S1:
1. Robby
2. Miguel
3. Xander
4. Hawk
5. Maybe Rusty Sam (Sam doesn't have many feats at this point though. Technically she could be above Robby since she beat him in season 2)
S2:
1. Miguel
2. Robby (After a few amps, I'd think he'd beat Sam since they were so close in skill anyways)
3. Sam
4. Tory/Hawk
5. Tory/Hawk
S3:
1. Robby
2. Sam
3. Hawk
4. Tory/Miguel
5. Miguel/Tory (It's closer than you think since Miguel kinda destroyed Kyler after a resolve amp while Robby also did this; I might put Miguel above Tory, or they could be equal.)
S4:
1. Hawk
2. Robby
3. Sam/Miguel (Miguel was toying with Tory before, and Sam didn't even need Eagle Fang to beat up Tory before. Although, she might of also been unbalanced against Piper though. Miguel for now just exceeds Sam and Tory so much that I don't know who'd win between him and Eagle-Fang+Miyagi-Do Sam)
4. Miguel/Sam
5. Tory
S5:
1. Miguel (Bro no diffed Kenny)
2. Robby (Literally threw Kenny like fodder while holding back)
3. Demetri
4. Kenny
5. Kyler/Hawk (I kinda don't know actually since he got stuck with his head which was at a disadvantage. He also lost stamina for a bit too)
1. Sam
2. Tory
3. Devon
I don't know how to scale the women to the men since they didn't fight. Sam is probably above Demetri IMO from how she did against Kim Da Eun.

[@AvoiidedScales]

Miguel’s resolve amp being permanent is pretty interesting. It’s also possible that Miguel just started to heal physically and get a chance to regain his skills and learn miyagi do after getting his resolve amp and it could’ve just been a coincidence, but it is weird how after his resolve amp everything started improving so it’s an interesting observation you’ve made. In season 4 Miguel was trying to stop the fight at first but then Miguel got a fair chance to fight against Robby where Robby got the upper hand. I think in their fight in season 5 Robby was getting the upper hand at some point since although Miguel landed a few hits beforehand, Robby was able to land consecutive attacks on Miguel, stunning him and leaving him defenceless before kicking him through a door, and Miguel only got the upper hand when he got visibly enraged and the flashbacks came back which suggests a resolve amp (and Johnnys goal was to make them get everything out of their systems so it would make sense for Miguel to get a resolve). But either way it wouldn’t matter due to the overall point of Miguel at his best being better than Robby in season 5. I think the Kenny point shouldn’t be brought up since Robby was trying not to hit him and not even counterattacking and even stated he wasn’t Kennys enemy. As for kyler beating hawk, it’s more than likely that hawk wasn’t going all out, since in character hawk only uses miyagi do which is suggested by him not striking first, and in none of his fights he struck first in season 5 (besides against Kenny at the end), in character hawk uses miyagi do unless he is completely forced into doing so like against Robby in season 4 and against Kenny in the final round, so it’s likely hawk wasn’t going all out against kyler, but I do think he was using eagle fang and miyagi do since he does use some offensive combinations at some point, and seeing as he in character doesn’t go all out unless completely necessary, it would make sense for these to be eagle fang combinations. I think the overall issue with season 5 hawk is we don’t see him go all out and use both styles properly, if he stops using defence all the time I think he would be above his season 4 self since his progress should have been somewhat comparable to Sam who was stated to be better than she’s ever been
Yeah I’ve changed my mind about s3 Robby vs s3 hawk since Kreese’ statement could be down to interpretation, and hawk got destroyed by Sam whereas Robby should be above Sam since Sam doesn’t receive any significant amps in season 3, while Robby improved massively being able to combine both styles of karate, one-two shotting Shawns goons who he previously was relative to, and being able to tank Shawns hits when he previously screamed in pain from a shawn who was holding back, and he went from losing to Shawn while only using miyagi do to being able to get the upper hand against him when he got an amp from Kreese, the reason I bring this up is because season 2 Robby was already seen as somewhat relative to Sam and he would go on to get loads of amps whereas Sam didn’t get any significant ones, so my s3 ranking is now
1. Robby
2. Shawn
3. Sam
4. Hawk

[@MeatFaceGo]

@@AvoiidedScales also it’s a possibility that hawk used the offensive side of miyagi do? Or maybe a combination but not entirely more offensive

[@AvoiidedScales]

@@MeatFaceGo yeah that’s also possible

[@MeatFaceGo]

@@AvoiidedScales I've also changed my mind; I think Tory > Sam from the physicality difference although their bases are actually pretty close since Sam tanks attacks from Kim pretty easily just like Tory still standing from a kick from KIm. But the adrenaline Tory would be able to damaged Sam a lot; if not, she'd one shot her. Tory would also be able to one shot a ton of people while even in base since adrenaline only increases a person's strength by 40%, so she'd be able to output 293 kj in base. Demetri could one shot Kyler for 26+ seconds. Kyler at this point is way more powerful than his s4 self who destroyed cinder blocks at 100 kj. So Demetri would be able to surpass that greatly. Possibly by 1.5x - 2x because Daniel was incapacitated by Chozen by one kick for 46 seconds while an untrained Daniel could get up easily from Johnny's attack(s). This would mean that Chozen's power is 2.38x in the moment of around 46x the amount that Daniel was incapacitated. Although it's not like every second it times it by two. It's just an estimate though. Demetri caps at 200 kj possibly. But tory's base is already 293 kj anyways. Technically Sam should be relative to Tory's power at base which is 293 kj, so she'd be more physically powerful than all men's feats.
Although, the showmaker's probably want Miguel/Robby/Hawk to be more physically powerful than base Sam or Tory. But that's only my guessing.
Edit: It's also a possibility that adrenaline amps are different from the real world though.
Edit: Also damn, you sound like Hamza while trying to be masculine in videos. lol

[@MeatFaceGo]

@@dillonhall3294 Robby literally destroyed Tory at the beginning of season 4. This would be count as post-S3 Robby since it literally takes place right after Season 3. Then he never gets hit, and only gets hit while being off-guard by Tory. There's a huge gap between S3 Robby and S3 Tory. He literally low diffs her basically. Although idk about S3 Hawk since Sam had an enrage amp against him in base. S3 Hawk foddered on two people while Tory struggled with Stiven. Tory if put against at least a focused S3 Sam, she'd get foddered on just like Hawk. I might put them as equals though. This is my new list:
1. Robby
2. Sam
3. Tory/Hawk
4. Hawk/Tory
5. Miguel

[@gokusolos542]

Miguel S1
Miguel S2
Hawk S3
Robby S4
Miguel S5

[@Furiouspsycho]

Hawk season 4

[@frash221]

Season 3 Miguel the writers of the show said that Miguel is the best teen fighter in season 3

[@Aussie_Jacobfn]

@@frash221true that’s not logical though because he could barely beat Kyler so he ain’t beating Robby or hawk

[@DuckLasagna]

Robby s2 and s3

[@Lang77609]

So the ranking is
1: Miguel 2 Points (Never lost to Hawk)
2: Hawk 2 Points (Lost coyote creek fight to Miguel)
3: Robby 1 Point (Hasn't beaten Hawk in a 1V1)

[@four8159]

You are probably the most accurate at Cobra Kai debates on the Internet
This is the only video where someone didn't even miscalculate once
Nice video

[@AvoiidedScales]

thank you bro i appreciate it💪

[@dynastywarriorlord07]

Hawk was NOT only using Miyagi Do against Miguel in season 4. Hawk even asked Miguel before the fight on whether or not Miguel was gonna hold back. When Miguel replied that he will NOT hold back against Hawk, Hawk replied that he himself won't hold back against Miguel either. So the Hawk that Miguel briefly fought in season 4 was a peak Hawk who was going all out. Also don't forget that Miguel was able to knock Hawk over with a single kick despite Hawk successfully blocking it. Miguel is definitely stronger than Hawk in season 4 though not by much. I feel season 4 was when Robby, Miguel, and Hawk were ra their closest

[@JSt3pz]

Just because Hawk said he wouldn't hold back doesn't mean he used both styles. He probably was going all out with the miyagi do style

[@Dinetioneditz123]

@@JSt3pznah Miguel only used offense in their fight

[@CloxxyCobraKai]

Daniel did not let him use cobra Kai

[@genesiogomes2514]

I think S3 Robby>S3 Hawk bc S3 Sam defeated S3 Hawk with low diff and S3 Robby have evolved more than S3 Hawk overall, like the fact S3 Robby was the first teen of cobra kai to combine two styles of the karate (in his case, the miyagi do and cobra kai styles)

[@AvoiidedScales]

I agree with this, I’ve since changed my mind on hawk vs Robby

[@madax4972]

​@@AvoiidedScales S3 variants?

[@AvoiidedScales]

@@madax4972 yeah

[@CommentSnitch]

LeReem Debates made a video about how S3 Hawk is overrated and I agreed since most fans are probably confusing it over S3 being Hawk’s darkest season

[@madax4972]

@@CommentSnitch I watched that, I agree with him

[@cobraverse08]

W vid🔥
For a long time I thought Miguel was the best in S1 but it's just not true and it was difficult for me to admit it

[@CommentSnitch]

Just because someone wins doesn’t mean they are proved to be a better fighter. The same goes for Robby beating Miguel in S2, but does it matter? Of course not because we saw proof that Miguel would’ve snapped that arm. I’m glad that you find these videos enlightening to understand that the show isn’t black and white

[@Cobrakaifan2020]

S1: Robby
S2: Miguel
S3: hawk
S4: hawk
S5: Miguel
IMO W OR L?

[@AvoiidedScales]

WWW

[@levivercettii]

1. Miguel
2. Hawk
3. Robby
This is why I say Miguel is better cuz Robby himself knows that hawk is better he even said in the last year tournament in s5

[@cobraclips9617]

I agree completely, new sub

[@AvoiidedScales]

Thanks💪

[@aradhyasakpal8083]

It's beyond fucked up how the creators have nerfed the Karate kid of the show. This shouldn't even be a debate. Miguel should be no.1 in majority of the seasons. But ig it was also cause Xolo was busy with Blue Beetle. With that out of the way for s6. They can get him to train harder and give him better Choreography for s6. Miguel will be no.1 again.

[@imtiyazyasir23]

This is an actual list i agree with
Robby (S1) > Miguel (S1) > Hawk (S1)
Miguel (S2) > Robby (S2) > Hawk (S2)
Hawk (S3) > Robby (S3) > Miguel (S3)
Hawk (S4) > Robby (S4) > Miguel (S4)
Miguel (S5) > Robby (S5) > Hawk (S5)

[@samueli7759]

It's clear Robby is at his best when he's calm and balanced. Whereas Miguel is at his best when he channels his anger or has a resolve amp. So who do you think would win Balanced Robby or resolve amped Miguel?

[@ccl7983]

I think neither would win . You could say resolve amp Miguel is balanced also since he learns miyagi do also

[@tristanmireles8994]

I would say Miguel would win extreme diff because Miguel in resolve amped is angry but focused at the same time I can’t see him losing at his best

[@CameronClark-rt7dm]

@@tristanmireles8994I can

[@martiniuselskerdeg]

It’s worth nothing that, in season 5 against Hawk, Kenny had time to “charge up” the silver bullet, whereas against Robby, he had rush it. Thus one could assume the two hits are not comparable.

[@RealxRED]

S3 Robby beats S3 Hawk imo. S3 Hawk doesn’t really have good feats. Sure he beat Demetri, Bert and Brucks but these guys are really weak. S3 Robby beat Shawn and Shawn could probably 3v1 them at that time

[@AvoiidedScales]

I think I’ve changed my mind on s3 hawk since this video

[@RealxRED]

@@AvoiidedScalesI mean, Hawk doesn’t really have good feats in s3 and he didn’t really take on anyone strong. He was just aggressive

[@RealxRED]

@@AvoiidedScalessince u changed ur mind, can u do s3 Hawk vs s3 Robby

[@Furiouspsycho]

Robby still spent some time in prison. Hawk was evolving so he takes it.

[@User-harrry.123]

They are the best teen fighters. Miguel and hawk are kinda the sa e cause they both got 2 point and robby got 1. But. MIGUEL 1ST HAWK 2ND ROBBY 3RD. HAWK AND MIGUEL ARE SIMULER BUT MIGUEL IS PROABLY A BIT BETTER BUT SINCE HAWK WAS NERFED IN SEASON 5 BUT HE IS STILL BETTER THEN KYLER AND KENNY SINCE HAWK WAS NERFED IN SEASON 5 I THINK HAWK WILL BE BETTER THEN MIGUEL AND ROBBY. BUT I THINK HAWK AND ROBBY WILL SLIGHTLY BE BETTER THEN MIGUEL IN SEASON 6 MY PERDICTION

[@bistay9157]

Imo:
S1: Robby/Miguel/Hawk
S2:Miguel/Robby/Hawk
S3:Robby or Hawk/Miguel
S4: Robby or Miguel/Hawk
S5:Miguel/Robby/Hawk
Reasoning:
For S4, I really think Miguel was on par with Robby, the only reason why he lost the prom fight was because he was unbalanced and had his night ruined by the karate rivalry, same goes to Robby, he lost against hawk because he was also mentally nerfed by Kenny, same goes to Miguel during his fight with hawk, also mentally nerfed while Hawk was “not holding back” He also kicked hawk so hard despite blocking it, For S3, I don’t really mind if you switch up Hawk with Robby. S2: Miguel won that fight, Robby knew he lost then he pulled a dirty move. S1: I’m a miguel fan but this video opened my mind about robby being the best in that season. S5: Miguel Rules. I really hope for S6, Miguel wins the Sekai Tekai and finishes it, he started it and he finishes it. Overall even if Robby takes the most seasons, Miguel is still the best fighter overall ngl, he’s entering his prime in S6

[@KEDlTZZ]

My opinion:
S1
3rd. Hawk
2nd. Miguel
1st. Robby
S2
3rd. Hawk
2nd. Robby
1st. Miguel
S3
3rd. Robby
2nd. Hawk
1st. Miguel (Resolve AMP)
S4
3rd. Miguel
2nd. Robby
1st. Hawk
S5
3rd. Hawk
2nd. Robby
1st. Miguel

[@Goku23864]

S5 ISNT Miguel prime

[@Furiouspsycho]

Hawk will still take s3 with his engraged version

[@KEDlTZZ]

@@Goku23864 yes it is dummy

[@KEDlTZZ]

@@Furiouspsycho nuh uh

[@deanperica828]

You forget to acknowledge the fact that Robby wasn’t balanced the whole fight against hawk in s4 whereas hawk was. Right before the fight he saw Kenny beating up Anthony throwing him off balance, him and Daniel also exchanged dialogue which also threw Robby off balance particularly when Daniel said “never put passion in front of principle, because if you win you lose, then there’s the whole hawk having plot armour, having the plot behind him and Robby winning was impossible due to the plot. Overall, s4 Robby >= s4 hawk

[@Spaaron]

Nigga that’s head canon, Robby wasn’t unfocused there’s no proof of that

[@deanperica828]

@@Spaaron there was proof though, he literally lost focus during the match 😂 was unfocused by seeing Kenny beating up Anthony, from dialogue with Daniel and when he saw Kenny. He’s a better fighter when he’s focused, that was proved in s1

[@Spaaron]

@@deanperica828 he wasn’t unfocused, he literally was double amped up against hawk because Kreese told him to use his anger and we see many times that anger amps cobra Kai dojo fighters. And don’t say “he got unbalanced when he saw Kenny” because that can easily be debunked by the fact that Robby taunts him after he sees Kenny which implies he didn’t lose confidence +Robby slams the mat in anger after losing which shows he didn’t lose his resolve

[@deanperica828]

@@Spaaron he was unfocused though; he wasn’t amped at all. Hawk was amped; Robby wasn’t. Hawk was double amped. By both Daniel and moon. You say he was amped because he was using the cobra Kai dojo mentality, but that’s not the case: the show and karate kid universe has showed countless times that the cobra Kai mentality isn’t as effective as a balanced one particularly in a tournament. You claim that Robby taunting proves that he wasn’t unfocused. That’s completely false. More than once in the show, people have taunted others but have been unfocused. Losing confidence doesn’t mean he wasn’t unfocused. He was unfocused due to seeing Kenny bullying Anthony before the fight; he was also unfocused after talking to Daniel. Not to mention hawk had the biggest amp possible and had the plot behind him to win. They had to mentally nerf Robby and physically nerf Miguel for hawk to win 😂

[@Spaaron]

@@deanperica828 nigga once again you’re using just head canon, there’s no evidence that he was unbalanced against hawk you saying he saw Kenny and got unbalanced doesn’t matter cos there’s no proof he was unbalanced especially since he literally got a rage amp against hawk. Plus he said hawk won fair and square in s5

[@hgh_edits.]

In season 2 I would say Miguel is a better fighter than Robby but Robby won the school fight. That wasn’t a tournament. On the street you shouldn’t show mercy.

[@AceOfficial337]

Robby knew he lost the school fight you could see it in his eyes after he got pinned.

[@Hawkster20]

Who votes for him to do apple vs oranges
👇

[@AvoiidedScales]

😂😂😂maybe in the near future

[@Hawkster20]

@@AvoiidedScales 😂

[@deebo11029]

Robby s3 is equal to his s2 self. He didn’t get an offense amp, if he did then its just enraged robby from s2😂. Also he gets offguarded by shawn and his goons. Meanwhile, after robby offguarded them putting s2-s3 robby above shawn. Miguel as well

[@AvoiidedScales]

That is refuted by Robby in season 4 admitting that Shawn had beat him up multiple times, confirming shawn as an individual had beaten him up several times, if shawn and his goons had continued to gang up on him then Robby wouldn’t have given respect specifically to Shawn there. Like I said in the video Robby had also grown physically stronger since he one-two shot Shawns goons who he was previously relative to, and despite having a bruise, was able to later on withstand attacks from shawn directly to the face when he previously screamed in pain from Shawns attacks. And Robby’s entire arc was literally realising miyagi do is useless in the real world and needing to combine both styles of karate in order to defeat Shawn, and even with all those buffs like him now being physically stronger, more durable and utilising both styles, he still struggled against Shawn a little, if a way stronger Robby was fighting on par with Shawn then it’s believable to consider a weaker Robby would get crushed which robby literally admitted himself

[@Sincere392]

Hawk literally barraged Miguel he was not just using Miyagi do

[@madax4972]

doesn't matter because Mitch slaps all 3 at the same time

[@AvoiidedScales]

Mitch💀

[@AvoiidedScales]

Facts

[@Sono_zeraiah]

Why Mitch he got slapped and shit talked by Kyler😂

[@madax4972]

@@Sono_zeraiah his penis breath is too powerful for the trio to withstand, they don't have any kind of poison or radiation resistance feats.

[@Darragh.Rewind]

W video bro as always!

[@AvoiidedScales]

thanks goat

[@Darragh.Rewind]

Anytime man
And hey I have a matchup idea for u if u wanna hear it!

[@AvoiidedScales]

@@Darragh.Rewind sure bro

[@Darragh.Rewind]

Mike Barnes vs Prime Miguel

[@AvoiidedScales]

@@Darragh.Rewind sure I’ll make that at some point thanks for the suggestion

[@deanperica828]

S3 Robby > s3 hawks you forgot to mention krease saying to Robby “well done; you’re exactly what cobra Kai had been looking for” furthermore, in s2 krease stated numerous times that he wanted Robby in cobra Kai and even when he was talking to hawk, he was always thinking of Robby as champion not hawk. This is evident through the quote I used above

[@epicc1o1official]

I think: S1: Miguel (extreme diff)>Robby(high diff)>Hawk
S2: Miguel (High Diff)>Robby (Mid Diff)> Hawk
S3: Robby(High Diff)>Hawk(Low Diff)>Miguel
S4: Robby (Ext diff)> Hawk (High/Ext Diff)=> Miguel
S5: Miguel (high diff)>(Robby high diff)>Hawk
So: S1: Miguel>Robby>Hawk
S2 Miguel>Robby>Hawk
S3: Robby>Hawk>Miguel
S4: Robby>Hawk=>Miguel
S5: Miguel>Robby>Hawk

[@Furiouspsycho]

You fucked up s3 and 4. Hawk own those seasons.

[@Sono_zeraiah]

Poor robby🥲bro was screwed over so many times
Lost the s1 tournament bcuz of an unlawful injury
Lost the s4 tournament making him 2x runner up
Put into juvi and beat up several times in juvi
Lost his girlfriend after he gets out of juvi
Humiliated and almost gets his arm broken by Miguel in s2
When they gonna give him a break💀

[@AvoiidedScales]

Hopefully in season 6 but probably not since the writers meatride Miguel

[@Sono_zeraiah]

@@AvoiidedScales lmao true

[@abdullahkun9787]

​@@AvoiidedScales Hawk was done even worse since miguel 5-0 him . howcome Miguel be the best fighter in s3

[@ivanb2712]

accurate as hell my guy exactly my thoughts

[@noengueguim4881]

Robby loose vs her friends in the Season 1 and Miguel did win vs Kyler gang

[@DuckLasagna]

S1: Robby
S2: Miguel
S3: Robby
S4: Robby/Hawk
S5: Miguel/Robby
S6: Robby (Prediction.)

[@edwardthebluetrain]

People say Miguel beats hawk mid-high diff in season 2 but I can safely say low diff cuz as soon as Miguel got serious he Soccer hawk in like 8 seconds

[@kevintruong_]

S3 Robby. Because he is better fighter in terms of skills and he is more technicall. Hawk just swings his punches. He doesn’t even have defense.
S4 Miguel vs Hawk fight tournament - Hawk didn’t use just miyagi do both of them fought the same they countered each other attacks.

[@ozkanylmaz9305]

In season 4 miguel takes it,miguel was mentally nerfed in the all valley tournament,and no eli wasnt only using miyagi do hawk said to miguel that "i wont hold back" implying he was using both styles,and miguel score a point faster than a rage amped robby,so in my opinion miguel takes it

[@aydenpayne8504]

I think it wasn’t that simple because the in the s4 fight hawk was counter attack and putting miguel on defense but while first fighting Robby was just purely blocking I’m not saying you’re wrong but I letting you know

[@AvoiidedScales]

Hawk was counter attacking against Robby at first, when Robby threw the first hit he tried to counter attack but got blocked, Robby simply overwhelmed hawk with his barrage of attacks and I doubt hawk wouldn’t try to counter strike when he even wanted to get back at Robby for what he did

[@aydenpayne8504]

@@AvoiidedScales no hawk tried to kick Robby then purely started blocking he didn’t try to counter attack

[@AvoiidedScales]

Because he wasn’t able to, he tried to counter attack at some point which suggests he was willing to do it again, and the reason he couldn’t is simply because Robby overwhelmed him with offence. I doubt he would try not to counter attack against Robby when he previously did it to Miguel and he outright stated that he wasn’t excited to be fighting his best friend, and then he would go on to say he wanted to get back at Robby for what he did to him so I don’t see why he would specifically try not to counter attack against Robby when he did to Miguel

[@aydenpayne8504]

@@AvoiidedScales with they first fought he did not try to counter attack and also Robby did not overwhelm hawk with offense he got the point because he knew hawks moves

[@aydenpayne8504]

@@AvoiidedScales hawk only trying to kick him but after that was purely blocking

[@levivercettii]

Bro said throwing someone in the pool means they won💀 so Robby hit tory which means he won against his prom date 😂

[@TheGhostEdit57]

It's so true. in general : Miguel better than Hawk = Robby

[@libertyblitzball27]

Your definitely spoke nothing but facts. Every time I see this debate everyone shits on Hawk but these takes are correct

[@Hawkster20]

Oranges vs apples its a big debate😂😂😂

[@AvoiidedScales]

What?😂

[@Hawkster20]

@@AvoiidedScales its a joke which one do you pick I pick oranges😂😂

[@julupuki1871]

Let's hope Robby wins season 6

[@cooperreed6041]

This is perfect

[@rbname7318]

Your breakdown was good. I’m not made at all at your assessment.

[@damo.r]

S1-Robby
S2-Miguel
S3-Robby
S4-Hawk(itcan be argued for either way, he beat robby many ppl say oh robby was distracted but before hawk nearly won but the timer ran out so it could of gone either way, and while miguel was gonna score a point doesn't mean hewould defo win the full match)
S5-Miguel
Just my opinion tho

[@robtheservantof6257]

Hawk was the Strongest in S3. Robby was in “jail" while hawk was in the field Getting ones with everybody😂 Robby was getting Beat up most of the time and only got a little training from kresse towards the end. Robby only has one season to his name

[@Furiouspsycho]

S3 hawk

[@shawnmorris5958]

In s1 miguel is the best fighter due to 2 major reasons. 1. Miguel was unfocused in that fight clearly he was upset about sam and finally saw robby at the tournament he mainly wanted to punish him more than rather get points. Also, i can u prove this because he runs at robby then easily gets countered by robby and slams the mat. He proceeds to not be until johnny says remember the pitching machine go get in. Also, but still mostly after than he was still not at his best. And in the Cobra kai universe it is clear that anger doesn't indeed always make u stronger because kreese told robby u know why ur father lost that fight with daniel. then robby says crane kick. Then kreese says there wasn't a kick on earth that could have stopped johnny lawerence in his prime he lost focus and let his emotions get the best of him just like miguel @AvoiidedCK

[@joannaandrade395]

I agree with everything except for season 3 so it was confirmed that Miguel was stronger then everybody so he would scale above hawk but not Robby because he was shown to actually have good feats and was actually getting as Robby one shoting Kyler while Kyler actually hit him even and a amp so if the statements true hawk

[@FidelinoGeronimo]

This is the Best Miguel Robby hawk video

[@Harry_CatEditz229]

Hey, its the cap guy, how ya doing bro
(no hate tho)

[@AvoiidedScales]

I’m doing ok how about you

[@Harry_CatEditz229]

@@AvoiidedScales im doing good

[@user-ro8el3gu5f]

Miguel was nerfed is season 4 and hawk wasnt using just miagi do until daniel told him to when he fought robby. As he was very offensive against kyler snd used the same moves the hawk used and he stared he wasnt holding back. Even if miguel missed he was still pressing him and many characters states that mogule would have won the all valley if he didnt get hurt. Seasin 3 miguel is relative to hawk and robby after his amp. Also season 4 miguel got better after the prom fight. So hes been better 4 seasons. Robby was better in season 1

[@Eli-pm2ee]

Season four analysis is cap because Miguel and Hawk are using the same set of moves and when Mitch and Bert try to do that, Daniel stopped it so he was using offense too and on Kyler he striked first

[@akchanneltv4084]

Not sure I agree with season 1 and 4 ranking

[@NicholasBeddoo-ul1yt]

Disagree with season 1 ranking all you want, doesn't change the fact that in season 1 Robby was better than Miguel

[@ScrangifyingEditz]

Miguel s4 > s4
Miguel was stronger then an angry and no mercy robby as robby kicked hawk and hawk barely moved while miguel kicked hawk and hawk got sent flying
Speed miguel since miguel was able to block and counter an offensive hawk (mind you Miguel’s defence isn’t good)
Durability is kinda obvious
Endurance miguel shows no fatigue and when he gets choked by robby he didn’t even scream or groan in pain
Skill miguel since miguel can technically beat hawk and robby
Therefore, miguel should destroy s4 based on his feats

[@aradhyasakpal8083]

Season 6 is Miguel's fs.

[@levivercettii]

S3 is Miguel cuz dream Miguel exists💀

[@avatarrokubest2304]

Hawk was not using only myiagi do against Miguel we legit see them both use the same kick they’re both using Cobra Kai

[@fly_wild]

Hawk wasn’t only using defense he was using offensive so ur statement is false cause if u watch it in their Exchange hawk was using offense too so Miguel and Robby are 50/50 and so is hawk and Miguel

[@calebpark665]

What fight were you watching? There’s footage of Hawk using offense in that fight

[@fly_wild]

@@calebpark665 yes I’m the exchange 🤦🏾

[@unknownperson-jc9mb]

I think if red Mohawk hawk continues the training he could best Robby in season 5 also. Do anyone agreed?

[@deanperica828]

Overall Miguel takes s2 and 5, Robby takes s1; 3 and 4. Left out a lot of points for Robby

[@trevormandouma]

Miguel beats Robby in season 4 since he beat him in the apartment fight only a little bit after season 4 when they didn’t have any training in between season 4 and the apartment fight

[@thefightersimbatible8930]

S4 is Robby

[@Hawkster20]

Miguel takes Season 4 the fight was like a month before the all valley so he wasn't 100% in the all valley its a day before season 5

[@AvoiidedScales]

in their fight in season 5, robby did not recieve any of the amps that he did in season 4, and to avoid a contradiction, its safer to assume miguel recieved a resolve amp against robby in season 5 and thats why he won

[@cobraverse08]

​@@AvoiidedScales To be fair both were extremely pissed at each other so Robby most likely had at least an anger amp

[@samueli7759]

@@cobraverse08 Miguel has A LOT more to be pissed about though. Robby almost killed him or almost ruined his life. Hence why you see the flashbacks to s2 from Miguel.

[@cobraverse08]

@@samueli7759 True but Robby even said that it was the worst moment of his life aswell and until that moment when he said it, and so also during the whole fight, he blamed Miguel for that

[@Synchronizer592]

I feel Like It will be Robby>Hawk>Miguel in season 6

[@titantveditz_]

Hawk wins overall, he was the first one to reach 2 points

[@amin_rulesandraps1984]

S3 is robby btw and i can tell by your pic that ur a hawk fanboy

[@Tfishisping-cg6ju]

Well I do agree that hawk wasn't the best in season 5 that's probably because he was using his weakest Style Miyagi do he was using Miyagi do for his fights and then when he says he's going to uncage the hawk then ya kenny gets him with the Silver Bullet I guess he was trying to master Miyagi do so then he would have both styles mastered which is smart and in season 1 I think Hawk after he got the point on Robby when Robby was unbalanced I think Hawk would get one more point I think Robby would get the last point and win because we don't really know how the fight would play out in season 1 cuz Hawk injured Robby before the next round can start but I do agree Robby was stronger in season 1 in season 2 hawk and Robby fight at the mall all we see is Robby get one kick on Hawk and hawk gets one kick on robby and then Robby tries to protect Dimitri Robby blocks Hawks attack but then Hawk gets the upper hand hits Robby in the head with his elbow and then throws him against the table and then that last kick saved Robby and when Miguel and hawk fight in Coyote Creek Hawk get some kicks in and then Miguel attacks Hawk backs up and Dodgers all Miguel's attacks and then after Hawk runs at Miguel start attacking him which is dumb to run at your opponent like that then Miguel gets a few hits in and Knocks Hawk on the floor and then Miguel gets one hit and then Hawk blocks it and then kicks Miguel against a tree which probably hurt a lot against his back and then Hawk try to kick Miguel but then kicks the tree and then Miguel gets a few hits and then wins I would say it was a kind of even fight and I'm not saying hawk is better than Miguel in season 2 I'm just saying the fight was even because Hawk Dodge all his attacks at the first half and then Miguel Dodge all his attacks Miguel got a little bit more hits but then hawk kicked Miguel into a tree which probably did damage to his back so I would say that hawk did decent against Miguel but it wasn't a all out fight like Miguel and Robby because Miguel and Robby we're actually really angry at each other and Miguel and hawk it was just a little duel to get the headbands off of each other's head yeah Miguel was mad at Hawk for the Medal of Honor but I don't think that made Miguel mad that much not as much as he was mad at Robby so I think Miguel and hawk we're not trying to hurt each other that bad I'm trying to say that when Miguel and hawk fought they were going kind of easy on each other cuz they're friends and I don't think Hawk was that mad at Miguel for defending Miyagi do and I don't think Miguel was that mad at hawk for stealing a metal and trashing the dojo of course he was mad he thought it was disrespectful but he was not that bad like he was with Robby but if they both hated each other hawk and Miguel Hawk wouldn't lose that easily it was like a game that you had to get the headband off of someone's head so yeah Miguel and Hawk was not that mad at each other so I think they were going kind of easy on each other comment and tell me if I'm right or not

[@txrtled3854]

would the outcome of season 4 change from robby solo-ing cobra kai in the dojo fight including tory while hawk panicked and couldn't even take 3 students (one kyler 2 fodders) leading to his hawk getting cut

[@AceOfficial337]

No it doesn’t. If Robby beat the whole dojo In S4 and that Hawk beat Robby in S4 that would put him above Robby and all of the cobra dojo including Tory so he would beat the dojo the same way Robby beat them if he was focused.

[@Mrlama170]

Hawk beats season 5 Robby as hawk won a 1v4 and Robby lost to Kenny and big red and a random guy

[@calebpark665]

Hawk also lost to kenny

[@milimatter]

in season five i think miguel is the strongest of the three mainly because he was probably gonna beat hawk in the all valley and hawk beat robby so he would've won if it weren't for the injury and also miguel in the final episode saves robby and robby gets hit by silver bullet and i think even though hawk is my favorite character (tied with demetri) he is the weakest of the three cause he pretty much dies after getting hit by silver bullet

[@milimatter]

also at the season 4 all valley even though robby got distracted and would have gotten to 2 points hawk also was about to score a point but the buzzer rang 1 second to early to land a hit

[@theunitedcity]

Good vid but anger"amp " for cobra kia but balance"key component" for miyagi do i like u man but be completly unbaised both are amps

[@phantom_cyber777]

I agree with ither seasons but season 1 Miguel should win anyway. Even without injury robby maybe be able to win in tournament but in street fight we all know that miguel is powerful. Maybe strength is equal but durability, endurance and speed are more compared to robby. Now we are discussing about the best fighter so it means street fight so miguel should be in the first place. Robby cannot beat him anyway because of durability.

[@Scamble142]

S3 hawk is so overrated S3 Robby slams

[@mygardeniagarden5971]

hawk is really feeling him self iam glad but dont be a bully

[@JessicaLeigh-lp9xc]

I agree for all except s4 bc miguel trained after the prom fight

[@imtiyazyasir23]

So did Hawk and Robby, miguel is the weakest out of the three in season 4 because his back and mind are weak whereas robby and Hawk are perfectly fine

[@Prime_Markedits]

After s6 robby 2 Miguel 2 Hawk 2

[@AvoiidedScales]

I agree

[@Prime_Markedits]

I hope in the finale of s6 we get a 30 year time skip where Miguel robby and hawk are senseis

[@AvoiidedScales]

I think it would also make sense for Robby to be the best in season 6 since hawk and Miguel both won the all valleys and I feel like it’s doing him too dirty if the show finishes without him getting a single dub 😂

[@AvoiidedScales]

@@Prime_Markedits that would be sick, apparently there is gonna be a new karate kid movie coming in 2024 or something

[@Prime_Markedits]

@@AvoiidedScales fr

[@YkitsTim]

I was about to comment on how I don’t think Hawk gets season 3 but I see you’ve since changed your mind. as for S4, Robby > Hawk. I say this bc Robby hesitated when he saw Kenny, and if we remember back to season 2 Miguel hesitated as well and lost the fight, but yet we still consider him the better fighter. so winning the fight doesn’t make you the better fighter all the time in this show. I would also argue that seeing Kenny messed him up mentally and threw him off, whereas Hawk got his confidence back and had a resolve amp. but sadly ik most Hawk fans won’t even try to listen to this reasoning cause it makes him look weaker.

[@deanperica828]

Agreed bro. But it wasn’t just that: right before the March Robby also saw Kenny beat up Anthony which threw him off balance and he also exchanged words to Daniel where Daniel said “never put passion in front of principle, because even if you win, you lose” further throwing him off balance. When Robby is at his best fighting ability, he’s balanced. He wasn’t balanced against Hawk whereas Hawk was and was amped. Then there’s the whole argument for hawk only winning because he had plot armour, had the plot behind him and Robby winning was impossible due to the plot. Hawks character arc needed it more than Robby’s as well

[@MrFlamer825]

@@deanperica828
Robby Vs Hawk (Each Season)
S1 = Robby Low Diff
S2 = Robby Mid Diff
S3 = ==< Hawk Extreme Diff (So Close, Could Go Either way)
S4 = Hawk Extreme Diff (Don’t even Say Robby) Robby Wins Extreme Diff In Street Fight and Hawk High Diff in Tournament
S5 = Robby High Diff

[@deanperica828]

@@MrFlamer825 disagree but respect your opinion, s1 Robby mid diff, s2 Robby mid diff, s3 Robby high-extreme diff, s4 Robby extreme diff, s5 robby high diff

[@MrFlamer825]

@@deanperica828 S1 is Valid but Robby Absolutely Smoked Hawk when he was Focused + he was Slapping Miguel with One Arm while Unbalanced so I’d Say Low Diff
S2 I Agree with That,
S3 It’s about Opinion there so I respect it, but I’d just Say Hawk Extreme Diff
S4 Is 100% Hawk For Me, he combined both Styles and used all of what he learned from Daniel to beat Robby, So Hawk Extreme Diff.
S5 is Robby since he took the SB Better than Hawk did so Robby wins High Diff.

[@MrFlamer825]

@@deanperica828 Mostly a W but S4 Is 100% Hawk.

[@KobyMathews]

Finally someone not glazing Miguel 🤣🙏🏼

[@niyigiwa6618]

Fax

[@user-rl3jd3xm1x]

no miguel is stronger than hawk and robby plus robby lost to shawn and hawk lost to miguel because miguel have more skilled and he is the best fighter more power than everone

[@DGamer5000]

Definitely fax

[@mokujin9993]

Strongest? I go for miguel

[@levivercettii]

2. In s1 is hawk

[@achilldude]

Hawk doesn’t get 4, it’s literally in the script for Robby to hesitate and drag out the fight rather than finishing him when he had the chance. Not only would he win in a tournament fight but a “real fight” and apparently a real fight too

[@tenuunt.2411]

I’m the strongest

[@Hawk_EliMoskowitz]

s1-robby>miguel>hawk
s2-miguel>robby>hawk
s3-miguel>robby>hawk
s4-miguel>robby>hawk
s5-miguel>robby>hawk

[@calebpark665]

What a dogshit ranking

[@nk_ing]

S3 robby is better than hawk

[@AvoiidedScales]

Ik i changed my mind a while ago

[@poppyedits69]

No he's not. Hawk has the 2 best AP feats in S3 performed by the students and Kreese basically indirectly stated that Hawk was better than Robby when he called Robby "Extra strength"

[@carguy_0627]

⁠@@poppyedits69 Hawk S3 is overrated af. He only beat ppl like Demitri and lost to Sam💀. Robby S3 is better and Kreese wanted Robby from the start because he knows how good of a fighter he is

[@poppyedits69]

@@carguy_0627 he's overrated but he's not fodder 💀 I've changed my view and now think Robby wins but im more than Happy to debate you on it anyways 💀

[@carguy_0627]

@@poppyedits69 Yh Robby gets S3 and Kreese said we need as much strength as we can get, not ‘Extra strength’

[@xDark_Voidx]

hawk was not only using only miyagi do against miguel he was using both styles. miguel is the best in season 4

[@imtiyazyasir23]

No he isn't, miguels back and mind is bad in season 4 whereas hawk and robbys back and mind is perfectly fine so in s4, miguel is the weakest out of the three

[@xDark_Voidx]

@@imtiyazyasir23 miguels back was fully recovered in season 4

[@imtiyazyasir23]

@xDark_Voidx no it wasn't, do you remember what happened in the s4 tournament, miguels back got the best of him

[@xDark_Voidx]

@@imtiyazyasir23 he was mentally nerfed and pulled a muscle that had nothing to do with his past injury

[@imtiyazyasir23]

@xDark_Voidx yes it did, what happened to miguel in the s4 tournament was because of his school fight s2 injury

[@levivercettii]

S4 Miguel still wins so Miguel wins in all seasons💀💀💀💀

[@imtiyazyasir23]

Miguel is such a bitch in season 4, Miguel is just thinking
'Where's my dad?',
'I want my dad'

[@shawnmorris5958]

Also, another reason why ur incorrect is because in s2 miguel and robby trained for about 3 months and robby trained and learned a lot more about miyagi do more than miguel with cobra kai in s2 .If robby was the better fighter at the time miguel would have lost to robby fair n square in s2 at the school. @AvoiidedCK

[@GUNITJ]

dude says fanbooys while being the main one