Good Conversation - we should have such debates and conversations more often - with new experts and it's important to educate citizens. It is disappointing that even in 2025 we are so behind in defence tech and Tejas isn't delivered.
Would be good into details about how much investment we Mae in each program in use vs other countries and where we are. bring in some DRDO/ADA folks too. Same things goes for Thorium program - where is it now?
The anchor caused so much interference that none of the questions could be fully answered. Every response was interrupted, and new questions were asked before the previous ones were completed. This cycle repeated over and over. What’s needed is a simpler, less self-promoting anchor, focused on delivering high-quality content rather than dominating the conversation with their own opinions. The anchor seemed more interested in talking than actually listening to the answers. Editor should check all questions got lost in faltu talks
Get this guy out of the interview! He does not even know the progress of Chinese engine developement. Chinese had already deployed WS 10 and 15. At least google and understand.
Madam&Sir, engine and propulsion are the backbone of entire aviation. India has been weak in this area from day 1 and continues to be so. Private sector with in built incentives may be a way out as aviation engines/jet engines are more complex than rocket propulsion.
Regarding a national security policy, We dont need one to be public yet due to the region we are in. We dont need to ape US for everything. The region we are in is very dynamic and frequently changing. For eg., If our National security policy was written in 2020 (Along with DPA) the northern alliance was in control. Now we have a working relationship with the Taliban, Bangladesh was the closed security partner to India till 2023 and now its becoming increasingly Anti India. Nepal and Sri lanka regimes keep getting hot and cold to India. We cannot keep a security policy which will keep changing every year.
Ah, India, where defense debates are full of wishful thinking and contradictions! An air force guy now claims that China is struggling to create a powerful engine, despite its collaboration with Russia. Struggling, you say? Funny, because Pakistan, with a no-compromise attitude on defense, has been using Chinese engines in its JF-17 Thunder-and it seems to be working just fine. When Pakistan Air Force decides on equipment, it’s not about what’s available; it’s about what’s the best. The beauty of jet engines! Let’s talk about Pratt & Whitney, the absolute pinnacle of aviation engineering. When the U.S. Air Force developed the F-22 Raptor and the F-35 Lightning II, they didn’t just pick any engine off the shelf. They went straight to Pratt & Whitney, because when you’re building the best fighter jets in the world, you use the best engines. It’s not a coincidence that these stealth jets rely on the P&W F119 and F135 engines, which deliver unmatched performance, reliability, and thrust. Now, let’s look at Pakistan, a country that has always maintained one of the most credible air forces in the world. When Pakistan procured the F-16 Fighting Falcons, they had a choice, they could’ve opted for GE engines, which were available and respectable. But the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) insisted on Pratt & Whitney engines, knowing that only the best would suffice for their fleet. Why? Because the PAF has a reputation to uphold-one that even legendary Chuck Yeager, the first pilot to break the sound barrier and a former U.S. Air Force officer, recognized. Let’s rewind to Chuck Yeager’s time in Pakistan in the 1970s. As part of a U.S. military assistance program, Yeager observed the PAF up close and famously declared that the Pakistan Air Force was "better than the Top Gun pilots" he had seen back home. Yes, you read that right-better than Top Gun, the elite U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School. Yeager was so impressed by the skill, discipline, and precision of PAF pilots that he openly admitted their training and operational capability were second to none. This reputation wasn’t built on shortcuts or settling for “good enough.” The PAF has always been about maintaining excellence, whether in its pilots or its equipment. Even today, the JF-17 Thunder, developed in collaboration with China, uses carefully chosen engines that meet the high standards the PAF is known for. And now, with Project Azm, Pakistan is moving toward 5th-gen and even 6th-gen aircraft, ensuring its air force remains at the cutting edge of aviation technology. Contrast this with those who claim China struggles with engines. Sure, criticize China’s engines, but China's WS-15 engines, but let’s not ignore the fact that China is building 160 kN thrust engines for its 5th-gen stealth fighters-a step ahead of many. And let’s face it: if Pakistan, with its no-compromise standards, is using Chinese engines, that speaks volumes about their quality and reliability. So, here’s the real question: Why settle for mediocrity when others are aiming for the best? The PAF, with its Pratt & Whitney-powered F-16s, Chinese-engine JF-17s, and upcoming advanced projects, shows what it means to combine skill with strategic choices. Maybe instead of dismissing others’ achievements, it’s time to reflect on why some nations still rely on imported aircraft while calling themselves “regional powers.” In the end, there’s a difference between talking about greatness and actually achieving it. Pakistan’s air force doesn’t just fly-it soars, setting standards others can only dream of reaching. And when even Chuck Yeager ranks your air force above Top Gun, well, that’s not just credibility-it’s excellence.
An excellent conversation- it goes away from binaries and adds more dimensions to the usual black and white presentations . One more issue that needs to be addressed- the reluctance of the Private Sector to invest in R&D, and in taking responsibility manufacture of fighter planes with ARDE/GTRE/HAL. Maybe we shall hear from you on these subjects in future.
Component manufacture to include " quality " metallurgy, mould, structural integrity, integration etc does not have a budget friendly infrastructure , equipment and skillset foundation. CKD itself is very complex-- now achievable with assistance. Building up capabilities takes budget unfriendly technology from component level.
According to Wikipedia, the development of WS10 originated in the 1980s, using the core engine technology of CFM56, which is the same as the core engine of F110-GE-129IPE in the United States. Combined with the WS6 technology that had already been discontinued in China at that time, the WS10 series aircraft engine was developed. After continuous improvement, the technology only matured in 2012. The thrust of its latest engine WS10G is currently close to that of the US F119, reaching 156 kN. The thrust of WS15 has reached 182 kN, with a thrust to weight ratio of 10.78. Russians will not sell aircraft engine technology.
For me national security is more important than gender equality and relaxation/reservation for women in defense Forces are less important. We have many other fields where we can discuss gender equality, let's keep defense Forces for a later time😢😢😢😢
I tend to agree, even though she was extremely polite and very well informed. What is it with IAF officers that they are so worried about speaking out of turn or really speaking truth to power - perhaps India still is a very deferential country? Every IAF officer must know that the Tejas Mk I is no better than the Gnat or Hunter, which were conceived of in the early 1950's. They would have trouble with an F-86 and certainly an F-104.
Scnemca support to Kaveri early stage is being over blown. We had a bad experience with their engagement and certainly didnt do TOT on a lot of key technology. The Kaveri engine to what ever KN power we did was entirely India's own. If done some more R&D it can be better than the WS engines.
Well grass is not all green at IAF side also. I agree with the Air Chief’s recent speech, but there are areas where the IAF need improvement. The IAF should show greater flexibility in the MRFA deal for the 114 aircraft. Despite the 36 Rafale deliveries from July 2020 to April 2022, we missed the opportunity to place a follow-up order for 18 additional Rafales at the same price, which was included in the original deal for 36 jets. Just see The Indian Navy, while supporting the TEDBF project, strategically ordered 24 Rafales to fill the gap. The IAF could adopt a similar approach to enhance its capabilities. Much to learn from Indian Navy.
Defining and rationalising a threat perception for a strategy or doctrine in Indian context is so complex in type of terrain , demographic, defencibility, equipment profiling etc parameters that would require sectoral analyses and validation with redundant contingencies far surpassing our budget limited capabilities. There is no silver bullet solution to an economy that cannot sustain a " energy" dependent month of conflict. Therefore the solutions are short shrifted to organised use of secretive weapons of mass destruction within our capability than to an overkill of conventional, life limited, non budget friendly expenditure in a growing yet relatively impoverished country of 1.4 billion citizens. There are priorities including energy dependencies which have to be first met before restructuring a dynamically changing security void. The country is doing the best it can progressively where it can.
I’m sorry there are many factual errors. We have made significant upgrades to the AL31F. As far as Safran’s contribution to the Kaveri it has been anything but peripheral. Certainly they have not provided the M88 core, considering the difference between the two engines interns weight and thrust. Furthermore if after the expenditure of 6 billion we cannot carry on an Indian research program in a country of 1.5 billion, let us dismantle the scientific and engineering establishment of the government. Finally, the greatest expense in R&D is incurred due to a lack of existence proof so many approaches are tried. But we are not doing that we know what we are doing has already been done.
This individual lacks expertise. China significantly enhanced its WS-10B aircraft engines, replacing all Russian-made engines since 2019. China’s ability to develop sixth-generation aircraft stems from breakthroughs in its cutting-edge WS-15 engine technology. Chinese engines now possess comparable power to Russian engines but are more reliable. However, they still lag behind Western engines. Despite this, they are reliable enough to equip their entire J-10, J-11, J-15, J-16, and J-20 fighter fleets and export to Pakistan.
Firstly, thank you for your service GC Ajay Ahlawat. Your comments are valued and appreciated, though not your opinion of ‘social media’ posters. However ignorant or inappropriate they may appear; these are the views of the nations interested parties. Secondly, Dr. Rao referenced misogyny & the belittling of the female point of view by paternalistic parties. This is unacceptable. During my career, it was my experience that women were usually the ones who delivered results in a timely manner and importantly were usually the first to point out the potential failure of a plan or sub plan. Any society that excludes them or promotes their exclusion from a nation’s welfare (education, health, design & production etc.) is doomed to inertia or worse. Within a short time after independence in the field of aviation India achieved much (Marut). It already identified that the engine used in the Marut was underpowered. None-the-less the airplane performed admirably perhaps not to specs, but okay. Then very little happened in this field until the 1980’s. A new aircraft was designed (Tejas) and flew 16 years later; I believe to try and prevent the problems that arose with the Marut a generation earlier, work was started on a home-grown engine (Kaveri). Some forty years later, this engine is still to power a Tejas, however I believe it has been used (successfully) in drones. This suggests that Kaveri is neither a success nor a failure. This suggests that they are fundamentally able to comply with the some of the rigours demanded by research, design & development, but not in others; such as timeliness. Never the less, don't give up. Someone told me that India is only good at ‘cookie-cutter’ production (CKD kits) but not actually able to make a product ‘end to end’. I disagree. They are! However what appears lacking in the equation is timeliness. Modern India has been around for some time now. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Thank you for the good discussion.
India does not even have a 4th generation indigenous aircraft, Tejas has foreign engine, radar and avionics. Now government need to open up private sector and not depend on Hal or drdo alone
Anchor some times answered her own question. After question take a pause and give time to other give answer. You can add your opinion after that or make it a fruitful conversation. Anchor seems to be itchy about her experience with Dr jaishankar. Her opinion on NSS reflects some of it.
The Chinese used to always ask why China's engines didn't work. Until China's manufacturing output equaled that of the US and the EU combined, they discovered that China can make anything, so the key is manufacturing capabilities and supply chains. India's manufacturing output accounts for 3% of the world's total, which is only equivalent to China's level in 1990. It lags behind China by more than 30 years. India still has a long way to go.
Swasti speaks too fast with her strange voice and accent to make any sense to the listeners, which is a stupidity. Simply put, she is a bad host. The guest is very good.
The problem with Swasti is she tries to reinterpret what Mr. Ahlawat is saying and frequently interjects him. Good interviewers trust the audience to form their own conclusions. However, China is far ahead in engine development. This discussion is very powerful however and Mr. Ahlawat is wise to steer clear of any blame game.
Madam, With due respect, please view this video yourself. You are talking too much. Less of analysis and too much of your own opinion. Please allow expert to speak more than you. Last point, any development personality or technology need time to evolve. I can recall SG saying that Pranav Roy had allowed him time to evolve.
No one is saying NO to imports! Calling your viewers as less qualified seems childish and misplaced. Importing best quality weapons is a MUST because Indian manuf sector lacks the technology / investment and infra. Our atmanirbhar thrust is an excellent idea. But it takes time, money, tech skills and vision. China planned and implemented it over 30 years. We have a long way to travel. Import Rafales and SU 57 for the short term with 50 to 60 % indigenous content over 10 years. Importing jet engines from Russia is another option.
India bought 4th generation Rafale from France but paid 5th generation price tag. In 78 yrs Indians can’t make your own jet plane or engines. Brahmos is licensed from Russia. Russia does not operate Brahmos. Can you focus on chappati and paratha.
People out there still believing in those indexes ? Bruh those have no value. Their entire system of gathering and calculating data is flawed or false. No wonder experts and Govt worldwide are boycotting such random NGO indexes. For instance Bangladesh is ranked higher than India. While they are suffering from Serious food crisis and depends on India to send them thousands of metric tons of grains and vegetables. Same goes with Mayanmar and many other countries
Jets aren't the only thing. We are in the top in many things and part of the top 4 club in ASAT, anti ballistic, AC carrier etc. Many of Drdo's inventions are unique in the world. So try not to mock your own country with lack of knowledge
*At one time India send many scientists n engineers overseas n cannot even make a rifle n need to make rifles underground licence from Russia * India wasted billions buying Russian weapins . Niw ,Undua wants to replace T-72' Russians tanks - 2400 tanks ? Indus canjit follow Indian way ,follow the successful of others. By looking at Hamas , Ukraine conflicts , methods of warfare has changed . Unmanned kong range Drones can destroy tanks armoured carriers , trenches, military post,refininies ,mikutary installing etc Missikes , rockets can bring down helicopters ,jet fighters. Unmanned naval boats can bring down warships. Indua nyst di RD n develoo energy weapins , laser beam ,ray ysing ekectrinagnetuc pulses that can destroy hundreds i🎉f targets without using ammunition .
Honest and clear discussion of the main issues facing India's drive to "indigenisation" of aircraft manufacture. Hate to rain on this parade, but India will never catch up to the US and UK in terms of engine manufacture - no shame in that, neither will Russia or China. And the UK will never catch up to the US, who are in the process of manufacturing an engine for the SR-72 which is 100 years ahead of Russia and China. The F-35 and F-22 are 40 years old in concept, design and manufacture. Same for the Typhoon and Rafale. The US, UK and France won't share their technology with Germany or any other NATO country, so there is no hope of them sharing it with India. BTW, anyone can design a concept 5th and 6th generation fighter, put in a useless engine and fly around Beijing for 10 minutes - it proves nothing. 5th generation means three things: stealth, engine design and cloaking, and systems control. Stealth is the easy bit. High end engine design is the province of 3 countries. Systems control is the province of two countries: the US and UK. India can possibly achieve stealth in the next 20 years, forget the rest. For an example of how hard it is to catch up to the very highest level of technology possessed by the West, let's take some of the lowest hanging fruit: high end railway engines and moving parts for wheels require machine tool manufacturing that make machines that make high-end ball-bearings. Other than Japan, the US, France, the UK and Germany, no other country can manufacture these "things". Sounds really basic doesn't it? But these types of ball-bearings are required for high speed rail and it's one reason that the Chinese high-speed rail system is in chaos. China will not produce those ball-bearings for 50 years no matter how much they try and steal the technology. Forget about which generation fighter you are producing. Save your money and buy off the shelf to combat China and Pakistan. Scrap Tejas unless you want them for training. No point in looking at the "soviets" to help you with engine design, they are 50+ years behind France, the UK and the US. Don't even try and compete with those three countries unless you have a competitive domestic industrial base. State controlled companies are useless at innovation and delivery. Lastly, don't blame the British for your border issues with China, there wouldn't be a country called India or Bharat or whatever if the British hadn't come up with the idea of a unified country in the process of independence for India and Pakistan. In fact you should thank the British for being so expansive in drawing India's boundaries in territory which was clearly ethnically not contiguous with India's main ethnic groups.
Is Chinese rail system in Chaos? why hasn't there been any reports on the news? I just googled the following question "does china use demostically made ball bearings for their high speed train? and what percentage of those ball bearings are self-developed with Chinese IP." Google's answer slapped you on the face pretty hard. Just google it.🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@888YangJi Did Google really slap me in the face? I must have missed the Google slap, whatever that is - I take it you're an expert on being slapped in the face, which explains your rudeness. China's high-speed rail system is in trouble. High-speed rail bearings have very high requirements for stability and durability. Currently, Fuxing's bearings still use imported products, of which there are sanctions limiting availability. Happy?
If india had a policy of maintaining good relation with Pakistan, SriLanka ,Bangladesh, Bhuttan and Maldives, things would have been different, but to create a regional hegemony supersede all other objectives.....any ways its now too late for india it has failed in Bangladesh......Laddakh is now in Chinese hands....and Wakhan Corridor is now with Pakistan .... enjy your bollywood !!
Bad relations with Bhutan? Lol your sources are flawed. Update yourself Khan. We have have good relations with Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Nepal and maldives too now. Also include Afghanistan
@@pratyush_asap Really ? And who supported Tamil Elam in 11 years long civil war in SriLanka? Who blocked oil supplies of Nepal for six months? surprised you forgot to mention Bangladesh in your list :-)
@@SajidKhan-mf8ts This context is of defence relations not trade or business. We have indian military bases in Bhutan, operating joint exercises with Nepal, Recently got clearance from Sri Lanka Pres Anura kumara that their China relations wouldn't jeopardize India's security. Those insignificant things doesn't effect the overall relations. It's business at top. By your logic India should be the enemy of Russia as we are indirectly supplying Ukraine with ammunitions through NATO. But it isn't like that.
There is no aircraft that is invisible on radar. Stealth means it is harder to locked on. BTW, if you believe in propaganda, Chinese J-20s flew over Taiwan last year and a few weeks later, Taiwan brought more radars from US.
@hagankeys3610 We do have the closest to Brahma, The Brahmos which will inform us when reaking and cracking wolf warrior PR planes arrive. Brahmos - Kicking CCP asses from Mountains to the sea. Now Go back to your sweatshop CCP troll.
"We enter into a hard security alliance with a partner who will come to our rescue". 😂😂😂Ask Zelensky who came to his aid when he first invoked security guarantees, ask Poland who came to it's rescue when they invoked treaties at the onset of WWII.
Good Conversation - we should have such debates and conversations more often - with new experts and it's important to educate citizens. It is disappointing that even in 2025 we are so behind in defence tech and Tejas isn't delivered.
Would be good into details about how much investment we Mae in each program in use vs other countries and where we are. bring in some DRDO/ADA folks too. Same things goes for Thorium program - where is it now?
These people act like 30 odd import fighters can win a war aganist 1000+ J20's.
It's an industrial war.
You haven't been following Russia Ukraine war
Usa Twisted Arms of Viswa Guru Modi in GE Engine for Tejas 😂 😅
@randomguy7175 what us , It only Exposes Indian Russian Weapons Pathetic Standarts
Mam, you forgot to mention Chinese Jet Engines (WS series).
Yes , What the Engine after all
The anchor caused so much interference that none of the questions could be fully answered. Every response was interrupted, and new questions were asked before the previous ones were completed. This cycle repeated over and over. What’s needed is a simpler, less self-promoting anchor, focused on delivering high-quality content rather than dominating the conversation with their own opinions. The anchor seemed more interested in talking than actually listening to the answers. Editor should check all questions got lost in faltu talks
Swasti Rao has Struck The Bee Hive 🐝 No Defense Procurement Policy will Ever Be Made . Military & Politician will No get Commission and Escorts
Should also do an interview with the engineers of tejash , they will know the real world issues , red tapes and difficulties .
Get this guy out of the interview! He does not even know the progress of Chinese engine developement. Chinese had already deployed WS 10 and 15. At least google and understand.
Madam&Sir, engine and propulsion are the backbone of entire aviation.
India has been weak in this area from day 1 and continues to be so.
Private sector with in built incentives may be a way out as aviation engines/jet engines are more complex than rocket propulsion.
Good discussion 👌
Regarding a national security policy, We dont need one to be public yet due to the region we are in. We dont need to ape US for everything.
The region we are in is very dynamic and frequently changing. For eg., If our National security policy was written in 2020 (Along with DPA) the northern alliance was in control. Now we have a working relationship with the Taliban, Bangladesh was the closed security partner to India till 2023 and now its becoming increasingly Anti India.
Nepal and Sri lanka regimes keep getting hot and cold to India. We cannot keep a security policy which will keep changing every year.
Ah, India, where defense debates are full of wishful thinking and contradictions! An air force guy now claims that China is struggling to create a powerful engine, despite its collaboration with Russia. Struggling, you say? Funny, because Pakistan, with a no-compromise attitude on defense, has been using Chinese engines in its JF-17 Thunder-and it seems to be working just fine. When Pakistan Air Force decides on equipment, it’s not about what’s available; it’s about what’s the best.
The beauty of jet engines! Let’s talk about Pratt & Whitney, the absolute pinnacle of aviation engineering. When the U.S. Air Force developed the F-22 Raptor and the F-35 Lightning II, they didn’t just pick any engine off the shelf. They went straight to Pratt & Whitney, because when you’re building the best fighter jets in the world, you use the best engines. It’s not a coincidence that these stealth jets rely on the P&W F119 and F135 engines, which deliver unmatched performance, reliability, and thrust.
Now, let’s look at Pakistan, a country that has always maintained one of the most credible air forces in the world. When Pakistan procured the F-16 Fighting Falcons, they had a choice, they could’ve opted for GE engines, which were available and respectable. But the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) insisted on Pratt & Whitney engines, knowing that only the best would suffice for their fleet. Why? Because the PAF has a reputation to uphold-one that even legendary Chuck Yeager, the first pilot to break the sound barrier and a former U.S. Air Force officer, recognized.
Let’s rewind to Chuck Yeager’s time in Pakistan in the 1970s. As part of a U.S. military assistance program, Yeager observed the PAF up close and famously declared that the Pakistan Air Force was "better than the Top Gun pilots" he had seen back home. Yes, you read that right-better than Top Gun, the elite U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School. Yeager was so impressed by the skill, discipline, and precision of PAF pilots that he openly admitted their training and operational capability were second to none.
This reputation wasn’t built on shortcuts or settling for “good enough.” The PAF has always been about maintaining excellence, whether in its pilots or its equipment. Even today, the JF-17 Thunder, developed in collaboration with China, uses carefully chosen engines that meet the high standards the PAF is known for. And now, with Project Azm, Pakistan is moving toward 5th-gen and even 6th-gen aircraft, ensuring its air force remains at the cutting edge of aviation technology.
Contrast this with those who claim China struggles with engines. Sure, criticize China’s engines, but China's WS-15 engines, but let’s not ignore the fact that China is building 160 kN thrust engines for its 5th-gen stealth fighters-a step ahead of many. And let’s face it: if Pakistan, with its no-compromise standards, is using Chinese engines, that speaks volumes about their quality and reliability.
So, here’s the real question: Why settle for mediocrity when others are aiming for the best? The PAF, with its Pratt & Whitney-powered F-16s, Chinese-engine JF-17s, and upcoming advanced projects, shows what it means to combine skill with strategic choices. Maybe instead of dismissing others’ achievements, it’s time to reflect on why some nations still rely on imported aircraft while calling themselves “regional powers.”
In the end, there’s a difference between talking about greatness and actually achieving it. Pakistan’s air force doesn’t just fly-it soars, setting standards others can only dream of reaching. And when even Chuck Yeager ranks your air force above Top Gun, well, that’s not just credibility-it’s excellence.
An excellent conversation- it goes away from binaries and adds more dimensions to the usual black and white presentations .
One more issue that needs to be addressed- the reluctance of the Private Sector to invest in R&D, and in taking responsibility manufacture of fighter planes with ARDE/GTRE/HAL. Maybe we shall hear from you on these subjects in future.
Component manufacture to include " quality " metallurgy, mould, structural integrity, integration etc does not have a budget friendly infrastructure , equipment and skillset foundation. CKD itself is very complex-- now achievable with assistance. Building up capabilities takes budget unfriendly technology from component level.
Defence manufacturing capability cannot be independent of general manufacturing capability. Scale, design, technology and R&D remain constraints
Don't blamed the British. India knows the lands belong to China.
India not behind but keeping low profile to avoid being sanctioned by G7. In fact India has best engine in the world
India has the best engine in the world, fueled by cow dung.
According to Wikipedia, the development of WS10 originated in the 1980s, using the core engine technology of CFM56, which is the same as the core engine of F110-GE-129IPE in the United States. Combined with the WS6 technology that had already been discontinued in China at that time, the WS10 series aircraft engine was developed. After continuous improvement, the technology only matured in 2012. The thrust of its latest engine WS10G is currently close to that of the US F119, reaching 156 kN. The thrust of WS15 has reached 182 kN, with a thrust to weight ratio of 10.78. Russians will not sell aircraft engine technology.
I disagree. We can defeat China in a narrative / talk war. We are good at talking. Don't ask us to deliver.
For me national security is more important than gender equality and relaxation/reservation for women in defense Forces are less important. We have many other fields where we can discuss gender equality, let's keep defense Forces for a later time😢😢😢😢
Best not Gender Should be Rule And Talking of Policy it will Never Happen as Commission & Escorts for Politician & Generals Can't be Sacrifice
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Thanks Mam. I enjoyed listening to your views.
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The lady will do well to keep quiet when the domain expert is talkig
I tend to agree, even though she was extremely polite and very well informed. What is it with IAF officers that they are so worried about speaking out of turn or really speaking truth to power - perhaps India still is a very deferential country? Every IAF officer must know that the Tejas Mk I is no better than the Gnat or Hunter, which were conceived of in the early 1950's. They would have trouble with an F-86 and certainly an F-104.
Scnemca support to Kaveri early stage is being over blown. We had a bad experience with their engagement and certainly didnt do TOT on a lot of key technology. The Kaveri engine to what ever KN power we did was entirely India's own.
If done some more R&D it can be better than the WS engines.
Well grass is not all green at IAF side also. I agree with the Air Chief’s recent speech, but there are areas where the IAF need improvement. The IAF should show greater flexibility in the MRFA deal for the 114 aircraft. Despite the 36 Rafale deliveries from July 2020 to April 2022, we missed the opportunity to place a follow-up order for 18 additional Rafales at the same price, which was included in the original deal for 36 jets. Just see The Indian Navy, while supporting the TEDBF project, strategically ordered 24 Rafales to fill the gap. The IAF could adopt a similar approach to enhance its capabilities. Much to learn from Indian Navy.
Thank you 🙏
Defining and rationalising a threat perception for a strategy or doctrine in Indian context is so complex in type of terrain , demographic, defencibility, equipment profiling etc parameters that would require sectoral analyses and validation with redundant contingencies far surpassing our budget limited capabilities. There is no silver bullet solution to an economy that cannot sustain a " energy" dependent month of conflict. Therefore the solutions are short shrifted to organised use of secretive weapons of mass destruction within our capability than to an overkill of conventional, life limited, non budget friendly expenditure in a growing yet relatively impoverished country of 1.4 billion citizens. There are priorities including energy dependencies which have to be first met before restructuring a dynamically changing security void. The country is doing the best it can progressively where it can.
Excellent Discussion
There has been already a National security strategy in practice by this government called "Na koi ghusa tha, Na koi ghusa hai" 🤪
I’m sorry there are many factual errors. We have made significant upgrades to the AL31F. As far as Safran’s contribution to the Kaveri it has been anything but peripheral. Certainly they have not provided the M88 core, considering the difference between the two engines interns weight and thrust.
Furthermore if after the expenditure of 6 billion we cannot carry on an Indian research program in a country of 1.5 billion, let us dismantle the scientific and engineering establishment of the government.
Finally, the greatest expense in R&D is incurred due to a lack of existence proof so many approaches are tried. But we are not doing that we know what we are doing has already been done.
This individual lacks expertise. China significantly enhanced its WS-10B aircraft engines, replacing all Russian-made engines since 2019. China’s ability to develop sixth-generation aircraft stems from breakthroughs in its cutting-edge WS-15 engine technology. Chinese engines now possess comparable power to Russian engines but are more reliable. However, they still lag behind Western engines. Despite this, they are reliable enough to equip their entire J-10, J-11, J-15, J-16, and J-20 fighter fleets and export to Pakistan.
Firstly, thank you for your service GC Ajay Ahlawat. Your comments are valued and appreciated, though not your opinion of ‘social media’ posters. However ignorant or inappropriate they may appear; these are the views of the nations interested parties. Secondly, Dr. Rao referenced misogyny & the belittling of the female point of view by paternalistic parties. This is unacceptable. During my career, it was my experience that women were usually the ones who delivered results in a timely manner and importantly were usually the first to point out the potential failure of a plan or sub plan. Any society that excludes them or promotes their exclusion from a nation’s welfare (education, health, design & production etc.) is doomed to inertia or worse. Within a short time after independence in the field of aviation India achieved much (Marut). It already identified that the engine used in the Marut was underpowered. None-the-less the airplane performed admirably perhaps not to specs, but okay. Then very little happened in this field until the 1980’s. A new aircraft was designed (Tejas) and flew 16 years later; I believe to try and prevent the problems that arose with the Marut a generation earlier, work was started on a home-grown engine (Kaveri). Some forty years later, this engine is still to power a Tejas, however I believe it has been used (successfully) in drones. This suggests that Kaveri is neither a success nor a failure. This suggests that they are fundamentally able to comply with the some of the rigours demanded by research, design & development, but not in others; such as timeliness. Never the less, don't give up. Someone told me that India is only good at ‘cookie-cutter’ production (CKD kits) but not actually able to make a product ‘end to end’. I disagree. They are! However what appears lacking in the equation is timeliness. Modern India has been around for some time now. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Thank you for the good discussion.
India does not even have a 4th generation indigenous aircraft, Tejas has foreign engine, radar and avionics. Now government need to open up private sector and not depend on Hal or drdo alone
Where is Snehesh Philip?? Please come and rescue the viewers
Anchor some times answered her own question. After question take a pause and give time to other give answer. You can add your opinion after that or make it a fruitful conversation. Anchor seems to be itchy about her experience with Dr jaishankar. Her opinion on NSS reflects some of it.
The Chinese used to always ask why China's engines didn't work. Until China's manufacturing output equaled that of the US and the EU combined, they discovered that China can make anything, so the key is manufacturing capabilities and supply chains.
India's manufacturing output accounts for 3% of the world's total, which is only equivalent to China's level in 1990. It lags behind China by more than 30 years. India still has a long way to go.
Even if India succeeds, it will take more than 30 years to catch up with China
Swasti speaks too fast with her strange voice and accent to make any sense to the listeners, which is a stupidity. Simply put, she is a bad host. The guest is very good.
The problem with Swasti is she tries to reinterpret what Mr. Ahlawat is saying and frequently interjects him. Good interviewers trust the audience to form their own conclusions. However, China is far ahead in engine development. This discussion is very powerful however and Mr. Ahlawat is wise to steer clear of any blame game.
Madam,
With due respect, please view this video yourself. You are talking too much. Less of analysis and too much of your own opinion. Please allow expert to speak more than you.
Last point, any development personality or technology need time to evolve. I can recall SG saying that Pranav Roy had allowed him time to evolve.
What modernization ? Even ur air is unfit for survival 🤪
No one is saying NO to imports! Calling your viewers as less qualified seems childish and misplaced.
Importing best quality weapons is a MUST because Indian manuf sector lacks the technology / investment and infra.
Our atmanirbhar thrust is an excellent idea. But it takes time, money, tech skills and vision. China planned and implemented it over 30 years. We have a long way to travel.
Import Rafales and SU 57 for the short term with 50 to 60 % indigenous content over 10 years.
Importing jet engines from Russia is another option.
India bought 4th generation Rafale from France but paid 5th generation price tag. In 78 yrs Indians can’t make your own jet plane or engines. Brahmos is licensed from Russia. Russia does not operate Brahmos. Can you focus on chappati and paratha.
Fixing India's position in Global Hunger Index is more important.
Please think of those children who have to go to sleep on an empty stomach......
People out there still believing in those indexes ? Bruh those have no value. Their entire system of gathering and calculating data is flawed or false. No wonder experts and Govt worldwide are boycotting such random NGO indexes.
For instance Bangladesh is ranked higher than India. While they are suffering from Serious food crisis and depends on India to send them thousands of metric tons of grains and vegetables. Same goes with Mayanmar and many other countries
One more liberandu spotted----
Which country is China buying engine’s from? China is not on list of engine manufacturers.
Why even make , when you can import
Without research and testing facility India becomes vishguru
Sure .. except our IIT guys doesn't like engine oil on their hands ... happy to punch paper in companies
Jets aren't the only thing. We are in the top in many things and part of the top 4 club in ASAT, anti ballistic, AC carrier etc.
Many of Drdo's inventions are unique in the world. So try not to mock your own country with lack of knowledge
Only talk, No action.
Too much works for a simple question, monotonous tone ,
And BTW whats the weird fixation for you on Top gun and Tom cruise? We have real life heros and one who is speaking you himself
Home work not done
*At one time India send many scientists n engineers overseas n cannot even make a rifle n need to make rifles underground licence from Russia *
India wasted billions buying Russian weapins .
Niw ,Undua wants to replace T-72' Russians tanks - 2400 tanks ?
Indus canjit follow Indian way ,follow the successful of others.
By looking at Hamas , Ukraine conflicts , methods of warfare has changed .
Unmanned kong range Drones can destroy tanks armoured carriers , trenches, military post,refininies ,mikutary installing etc
Missikes , rockets can bring down helicopters ,jet fighters.
Unmanned naval boats can bring down warships.
Indua nyst di RD n develoo energy weapins , laser beam ,ray ysing ekectrinagnetuc pulses that can destroy
hundreds i🎉f targets without using ammunition .
Honest and clear discussion of the main issues facing India's drive to "indigenisation" of aircraft manufacture. Hate to rain on this parade, but India will never catch up to the US and UK in terms of engine manufacture - no shame in that, neither will Russia or China. And the UK will never catch up to the US, who are in the process of manufacturing an engine for the SR-72 which is 100 years ahead of Russia and China. The F-35 and F-22 are 40 years old in concept, design and manufacture. Same for the Typhoon and Rafale. The US, UK and France won't share their technology with Germany or any other NATO country, so there is no hope of them sharing it with India. BTW, anyone can design a concept 5th and 6th generation fighter, put in a useless engine and fly around Beijing for 10 minutes - it proves nothing. 5th generation means three things: stealth, engine design and cloaking, and systems control. Stealth is the easy bit. High end engine design is the province of 3 countries. Systems control is the province of two countries: the US and UK. India can possibly achieve stealth in the next 20 years, forget the rest.
For an example of how hard it is to catch up to the very highest level of technology possessed by the West, let's take some of the lowest hanging fruit: high end railway engines and moving parts for wheels require machine tool manufacturing that make machines that make high-end ball-bearings. Other than Japan, the US, France, the UK and Germany, no other country can manufacture these "things". Sounds really basic doesn't it? But these types of ball-bearings are required for high speed rail and it's one reason that the Chinese high-speed rail system is in chaos. China will not produce those ball-bearings for 50 years no matter how much they try and steal the technology.
Forget about which generation fighter you are producing. Save your money and buy off the shelf to combat China and Pakistan. Scrap Tejas unless you want them for training. No point in looking at the "soviets" to help you with engine design, they are 50+ years behind France, the UK and the US. Don't even try and compete with those three countries unless you have a competitive domestic industrial base. State controlled companies are useless at innovation and delivery. Lastly, don't blame the British for your border issues with China, there wouldn't be a country called India or Bharat or whatever if the British hadn't come up with the idea of a unified country in the process of independence for India and Pakistan. In fact you should thank the British for being so expansive in drawing India's boundaries in territory which was clearly ethnically not contiguous with India's main ethnic groups.
Is Chinese rail system in Chaos? why hasn't there been any reports on the news?
I just googled the following question "does china use demostically made ball bearings for their high speed train? and what percentage of those ball bearings are self-developed with Chinese IP."
Google's answer slapped you on the face pretty hard.
Just google it.🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@888YangJi Did Google really slap me in the face? I must have missed the Google slap, whatever that is - I take it you're an expert on being slapped in the face, which explains your rudeness.
China's high-speed rail system is in trouble. High-speed rail bearings have very high requirements for stability and durability. Currently, Fuxing's bearings still use imported products, of which there are sanctions limiting availability. Happy?
Anchor talks too much
If india had a policy of maintaining good relation with Pakistan, SriLanka ,Bangladesh, Bhuttan and Maldives, things would have been different, but to create a regional hegemony supersede all other objectives.....any ways its now too late for india it has failed in Bangladesh......Laddakh is now in Chinese hands....and Wakhan Corridor is now with Pakistan .... enjy your bollywood !!
Bad relations with Bhutan? Lol your sources are flawed. Update yourself Khan. We have have good relations with Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Nepal and maldives too now. Also include Afghanistan
@@pratyush_asap Really ? And who supported Tamil Elam in 11 years long civil war in SriLanka? Who blocked oil supplies of Nepal for six months? surprised you forgot to mention Bangladesh in your list :-)
Lol bhikmanga Pakistani ko bheek do baba
@@SajidKhan-mf8ts This context is of defence relations not trade or business. We have indian military bases in Bhutan, operating joint exercises with Nepal, Recently got clearance from Sri Lanka Pres Anura kumara that their China relations wouldn't jeopardize India's security.
Those insignificant things doesn't effect the overall relations. It's business at top. By your logic India should be the enemy of Russia as we are indirectly supplying Ukraine with ammunitions through NATO. But it isn't like that.
Try to save your durand lines and coxes bazaar before talking about geo politics.
maam speaks so much. bak bak bak bak bak bak....chak chak
What?? China have 6G Combat Aircrafts?? Impossible.
I believe India's SU-30 MKI Radar already picked up China's both 5G & 6G Airplanes.
Rafale already are tracking your favourite J20's 24/7. We even locked multiple times during immediate Post Galwan stand off.
Try to read the news.
There is no aircraft that is invisible on radar. Stealth means it is harder to locked on. BTW, if you believe in propaganda, Chinese J-20s flew over Taiwan last year and a few weeks later, Taiwan brought more radars from US.
Modi has Brahma to inform him when China's 5G or 6G Airplanes are approaching India's border.
@hagankeys3610
We do have the closest to Brahma, The Brahmos which will inform us when reaking and cracking wolf warrior PR planes arrive.
Brahmos - Kicking CCP asses from Mountains to the sea. Now Go back to your sweatshop CCP troll.
"We enter into a hard security alliance with a partner who will come to our rescue". 😂😂😂Ask Zelensky who came to his aid when he first invoked security guarantees, ask Poland who came to it's rescue when they invoked treaties at the onset of WWII.
She lied through her nose. Thats not the only thing Eam Jaysankar told her.
He made an annecdote and she only held onto it😂😂
I think avionics and seat are low hanging fruits, engine will there in the next decade surely.