The Newspaper Prophet
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- Consider carefully the timeline of this prophecy and the articles I share with you in this video. I think it reveals not only insight into James Goll but into the low standards by which these large media-focused charismatic programs will lift up "prophets" for us all. May God bring true prophecy for us all to learn, grow and be instructed from! But we all probably need to get better at spotting the fake.
Personally, I'd rather have one word of prophecy every thirty years than thirty fake ones every day.
This is the original, 8 hour video analyzing 2020 prophecies on The Remnant Radio - • Testing the Prophets: ...
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I love your stuff. You were one of the main reasons my heart was softened to Christianity. I have been for a year now. I can’t thank you enough.
Hi Andreus, I am rejoicing in your new life in Christ. Mike Winger is an excellent man of God. You know what a true man of is so you won't fall for the hype of false teachings and false prophets.
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@@merrittascott4408 thank you. People who say things like these are my armor against internalizing people who say Christians are a hateful group.
@@lancertreepuffer thank you I’m glad to be here
Praise the Lord 🙏 for guiding you to true teaching of His Word!
"If you sincerely drink poison, it will kill you; if you sincerely cut your throat, you will die. If you sincerely believe a lie, you will suffer the consequences. You must not only be sincere, but you must be right." -- Spurgeon
To this day and generation, Spurgeon speaks with solid truth.
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True. And to be sure we are right, we have to take Jesus' words on their face value. Jesus said:
"Father... this is eternal life that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent" John 17:1-3
The Father is the only true God. No trinity.
Thank you for sharing this quote 👍
@@jb_1971 If you want to make that contention, there are many other videos on Mr. Winger's channel that discuss the doctrine of the Trinity; this video is the wrong place to stir up that debate.
Red flag for me when he said the “primary “ way God speaks to him is in dreams and visitations. As opposed to The Word
oof, good one. I didn't catch that. The Word must always come first
Now, I don't believe in modern day prophesy, for context. But its entirely reasonable to understand that as "the primary way that God speaks to me in a prophetic sense".
Like, I believe that God "speaks" to me, as in, leads me in my life by giving me peace about decisions that I am struggling with and the like. And a sense of peace (or by contrast, a deep sense of discomfort) is the primary way that God speaks to me about everyday decisions, but, the primary way he reveals his character, and speaks to me in general is by the word of God, the Bible.
@@christopherneedham9584 if you believe He speaks to you, why is hard to believe that He could tell you about something that's going to happen?
@@DiggitySlice i have no issues with believing he can tell me/us what is going to happen. I don't believe he does.
Not calling a false prophet a false prophet, not calling a fake a fake, not calling a manipulator a manipulator, not calling a liar a liar, not calling a deceiver a deceiver... hurts more than the actual fake predictions - it just makes more room for deception to flourish in different flavours. Good effort, thank you for being nice, and may God have mercy on us all. With love, from India.
Mike doesn't need to identify people as a false prophet. The bible teaches us all how to do so, look at deuteronomy.. if you make a false prophecy then you are not prophesying from God
Mike, I know you said you were loathe to do a more in-depth analysis of Goll's work, but I'd definitely be interested in it. A former pastor introduced me to Goll and did some workshops on dream interpretation based on his stuff, and it all seemed a bit sus to me. I've definitely been open to prophecy and hearing from God, but the longer I stuck around more charismatic believers, the more things seemed a bit unhinged to me and ultimately I stopped finding things like "listening prayer" and "getting a word" encouraging and turned back to solid biblical exegesis. I don't want to discount what the Spirit might be doing, but it was really interesting seeing this analysis, as this was actually the first time I'd heard Goll speak and give a "prophetic" word. Had no idea he was in such a place of influence.
As someone who was part of the hyper charismatic hyper prophetic movement YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD MIKE. I always sat in these prophetic conferences and heard "prophecies" (btw, I met James Hill personally and talked with him many years ago) and wondered "well, all this just makes sense...these are predictions based on known info. " People in these circles are just wowed by this stuff and there is a logical explanation for it other times they just guessed right. 🤷🏻♀️
People are paying lots of attention to these “prophecies.” If they paid more attention to news around the world, they’d figure out the deception. These people are selling stuff. That’s all it’s about. If they can convince gullible people that they have one prophetic word, he can get them to buy books chock full of similar prophetic words.
Some people take Paul's statement, "Charity believeth all things" way too literally.
Most of the time their just wrong by a mile and those that support them just refuse to see it. I saw James Goll in a video from I believe it 2003 or 04, he was singing the praise of a new healer, prophet that he said God Almighty had told him about that man was named Todd Bentley, he's a liar God never told him anything, but hey, it sells books and makes him wealthy and everyone seems to just forget or overlook all the times he's wrong.
@@jimmybrowning4888 Exactly. As if a true prophet's going to get some wrong, or not have even a rudimentary discernment of a liar like Bentley. He just screams "pulling the wool over the eyes" of the believers, whom they believe are nothing but idiots. That is actually mockery, and it does matter for discernment. Mainly, I think we have a hard time believing how deceiving people can willingly be. Like Paul said, not all men have faith!
@@jimmybrowning4888 I have to laugh whenever I go to the comments section of a false prophet’s YT channel, and someone asks “what’s his track record?” Seriously. If that question needs to be asked, then they should already know the answer.
I enjoy your insights. I'm sure your familiar with Ezekiel 13: 1-3 when God sends Ezekiel to confront the prophets who" prophesy from their own imagination". It's easy to believe it's from God when it matches up to what you want, or supports your agenda.
Thank you for doing this I use to listen to this guy as a baby Christian. It's very deceptive. We definitely need this guidance
Camera .I'm a prophet you can listen to
@@oscarholley891 I'm sorry but I really don't believe that God still has that for today
@@AmeeraG242 Prophecy definitely does happen, God told me a week before my grandmother died that she was about to die, because he knew I'd need to be emotionally prepared. I was in hospital at the time for a major mental and physical health crisis, and if I hadn't known in advance and been walked through the idea that it was all going to be ok by God, in that moment, then I would have been a complete mess when she died. But I've come across so many false prophecies especially among important people who get a lot of attention and airtime, that I am extremely wary of anybody who says any kind of "thus sayeth the Lord". I think that when God gave the commandment "do not take my name in vain" it was false prophecy that he was really talking about. I think Christians, especially charismatic Christians, throw around the 'authority' of having heard from God, way way too much and too often. And I include my imperfect self in this, especially in the past.
There is a difference between a person who is lead by the Spirit and a person who tries to force the lie that they are Spirit led for personal gain. It takes a sober-minded Christian to help the church tell the difference, thank you Mr. Winger for doing that! 🙏
I've heard this said many different ways but this is the clearest I ever have. I had to meditate on it for a bit really chew on the truth. Thank you
If you want God to speak to you, read the Bible. If you want God to speak to you audibly, read the Bible out loud.
Exactly. There is not one proven prophet that any charismatic can name. Prove me wrong. We have a more sure word of prophecy, it's called the word of God.
So says Justin Peters too !
Thats one way. God can speak audibly. He did it to me. But ofc it doesnt happen very often : )
@@dudenotsoperfect9366 me too, before I was saved. I had devout friends praying for my salvation and God was practically yelling at me! After I acceptable Christ I stopped hearing him yelling at me though 😅 I've met others who have heard the voice of God, but never have heard prophesy.
The amazing thing is you have to ignore the Bible's teachings to assume that prophecy only comes from the Bible
They were so disappointed. I don’t like their show just because they are very slow to call what is false, false. In fact, they tend to try to defend it or make a way for it. I understand wanting to have proof of God doing the supernatural, but allowing fake things doesn’t help in that effort. Loved your discernment concerning this. We must test things.
Amen! I felt the same way about them. I question their discernment at times and how they like to give some questionable people a pass just because they claim to be a follower of Christ.
It is quite disappointing. But I have backed away from prophets over the last 2 years. And other Christians have mercilessly attacked me for it. If I reject them I am rejecting God. (If they were accurate, I would agree, but they were not). I still believe in the spiritual gifts being active today-and they are if The Holy Spirit dwells in you… whether you know it or not. God accomplishes His will, He is sovereign. But I don’t seek out prophets or prophetic words from other people. I focus on hearing God for myself and obeying through actions rooted in faith.
The problem is that most people don't understand that prophecy is mostly foretelling. That is calling God people to God and being faithful.
"I never knew you" after people somehow thought they cast out demons and healed in Jesus name should terrify us all into realizing how deceived we can be.
David, ...or should fool us into believing they had powers and gifts they never had. Jesus put an end to their scam in Matt.7:21-23
I like voiceover Mike.
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Oh ya mike. Give God the glory, my mom watched your video on alcohol. I prayed she’d watch it over a year ago when I first watched it. She said it was the best video she’s ever watched. She’s a recovering alcoholic. A Christian returned from backsliding. She was so in awe of how well you broke it down biblically. You really changed something in her. Thank you brother. Prayers answered. She said she sent your video to at least 40 of her friends.
It is amazing to me how many people confuse prophecy with clairvoyance. Telling the future is a side effect of prophecy. The main objective is to make clear the consequences of ignoring God and those of turning back to obedience of Him.
Yes, yes, yes! God should be the focus of any prophecy.
Are you talking about the gift of prophesy or the ministry of a prophet? Even in the NT prophets saw into the future:
"And as we stayed many days, a certain prophet named Agabus came down from Judea. When he had come to us, he took Paul’s belt, bound his own hands and feet, and said, “Thus says the Holy Spirit, ‘So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man who owns this belt, and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.’" (Acts 21)
@Joe dirty71 Oh, I see. You are a nonbeliever yourself so you are ignorant of Bible prophecy that has already been fulfilled.
Prophecies come directly from God. Psychic powers originate in the occult and do occur, but unlike God, Satan is not omniscent.
Just putting it out there: "turning the Supreme Court back to constitutional conservatism" is not high on God's priority list, nor is it a phrase I'd ever expect to hear from the mouth of a true prophet. It is, however, something that worldly-minded America-idolaters care an awful lot about, and a god they've made in their own image would be all to eager to prophesy about it
Amen Josh.
Indeed.
My thoughts exactly
I'm not defending the guy, but I think it was a general expression for things like abortion and gay marriage.
Policies are written based on morals. Morals come from God. Like it or not, if you think God cares about the world at ALL, you have to acknowledge that He cares about the moral laws imposed on the most powerful country in the world.
Also, likening a love of one's country to idolatry is like likening the love of one's spouse or family to idolatry. It's absurd. Seems more like you have a chip on your shoulder that's making you say this.
I've actually been saying similar things about many of today's "prophets". I managed to get sucked into the Qanon movement for about a year between early 2019-mid 2020 before God got me out, but I learned enough of what was going on there and what people were believing, to pick out 2 main things.
One - Q's "trutherism" and predictions actually line up way more with the New Age than the Bible, and
Two - most of the modern day "prophets" aligned with what Q was saying. I got to a point of believing that they were counting on their audience to not realize that and instead think God was speaking to them. But really they were just repeating Q.
This is something I noticed too. The people(boomers) who love Qanon also love internet "prophecy." I don't really understand it, but it seems to be the same type of gullibility to believe in them. And this isn't from a guy that only trusts "official" sources. I believe prophecy can be real and I read infowars(Alex Jones) everyday.
Maybe it has something to do with huffing that sweet copium. Both Q and internet "prophecies" are never negative. "(Worldy) hope is around the corner! All you have to do is believe that is true!"
So thankful you got out. My heart was breaking while people were being sucked into that.
I have family in that movement. I hate it. My husband was obsessed with the Q thing and was awful and my sister I think still is.
There are no more ‘Prophets’. The canon is closed. The foundation has been laid. (Heb. 2).
@@tracykarol I have a cousin who is such a follower, I don't think anything could shake his belief in it. He also says he's a Christian, yet he can't see the deception. He's also a dominionist, so that is likely why he thinks Q is God's plan for saving the world. Even though the Bible clearly says opposite. It is scary and heartbreaking to see how much people can be deceived.
“Do you believe it’s intentional?” He’s on the Jim Bakker show, that’s a clue.
That s the biggest clue he is fake!!!!!!!!
SeriousIy .... I went from being raised as a traditional Catholic, to an experiential Calvinist turned legalistic, then converted to Hyper-Gracism, then to an Arminian and God brought me to Mike Winger and Dr. Bob Utley. Now ..... I am simply a Biblicists.
I disagree with Mike regarding This “prophets” sincerity. He was not just misreading thoughts in his head as the voice of the Lord, he said he had an ACTUAL VISITATION from the Lord. You can’t mistake that. I believe he was purposely insincere.
I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy lies in my name, saying, ‘I have dreamed, I have dreamed!’ How long shall there be lies in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies, and who prophesy the deceit of their own heart
(Jeremiah 23:25-26)
Hi, friend. Jesus identified the only true God for us. Are you aware who He is?
@@jb_1971 Yes, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. All three are different persons, yet are one God. but also, im confused as to why you are wondering if I know who the one true God is. I do appreciate your care.
@@popoffs5273 I'm concerned because I care for people and sadly there is a lot of confusion around this topic. The Lord Jesus said:
"Father... this is eternal life that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent" John 17:1-3
You see, Jesus said it's eternal life to know THIS God and not any other!
Paul wrote: "Yet for us there is one God, the Father" 1 Corinthians 6:8
The foremost commandment is that YHWH is one. Jesus obeyed it by worshiping His Father alone as God. So should we.
"Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him." John 4:23
The Jews knew what they worshiped and it was the Father. Likewise, the true worshipers were to still worship the Father - not a trinity!
There is no God the Son in the Bible. There is only the Son OF God, the man Christ Jesus. "Christ" means the anointed one, the king of Israel. That's what Jesus is - the promised seed of David.
" I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright, the morning star." Revelation 22:16
@@jb_1971 Jesus is God, as clearly stated in John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The word is refering to Jesus
John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. if that isn't enough for you
John 1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has
made him known.
Philippians 2:5-6 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.
Colossians 2:9-10 “For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily. and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.“
John 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.“
Jesus himself was worshiped,
Matthew 28:8-9 “So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him.“
It concerns me greatly that you hold to the false belief that Jesus is not God even when it is so evident in the scriptures. Please reconsider your belief as it is unbiblical.
@@jb_1971 I have more John
20:27-28 “Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
2 Peter 1:1 “Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.“
Acts 20:28 “Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.“
Mike, you (rightly) said that Goll is in the category of people you can’t trust are hearing from God. My question is, can you name anyone that you put in the category of those you CAN trust are hearing from God?
Because, I’ve been in the Pentecostal/Charismatic world my entire life (60+ years) and I can’t find a single “prophet” that is true.
Thanks for sharing a name if you can.
And thanks for your great ministry!
I was just thinking this myself
So glad we have Christians calling out this stuff and not just skeptics
So good! This is SO important, too! I LOVE being part of the Charismatic community and church, BUT it is so important that we stay pure and above reproach in navigating the things of the Spirit.
@5:19 A false prophet always gives themselves an out. They say *"this is God's will, but we are co-laborers....so if it doesn't happen it's your fault."*
They really know how to cover their butts.🙄
I mean bad argument, so did Elisha and Isaiah.
Thank you for bringing clear, solid thinking to this nonsense. As always, you are so gracious while still being direct.
Careful about calling it nonsense. Have compassion
@@DiggitySlice It is nonsense if it is not from God and Mike did an excellent job of critiquing and showing how people can be manipulated and beguiled by a false prophet.
That is exactly why he predicted this correctly, he is in “the know” in Washington.
Interesting how the man was also using a platform that has a track record of peddling prophecy
If I'm reading this correctly--there is nothing about prophesying about the future or about government leaders, etc. Paul writes to the Corinthians in I Corinthians 14:3 But the one who prophesies speaks to people for edification, [c]exhortation, and consolation.
"Truth is more important than sincerity". Well put.
This is a quote I'll most defenitely remember as a excellent guideline.
I suppose my questions would be;
Why? Why do we need all these extra-scriptural prophesies?
Has His word become too bland and boring? Is it no longer sufficient? Does it not move us like it used to?
Not to mention the fact that if they say “ God told me “; should their message not need to be added to the book? ( Considering the entire thing is God inspired via the Holy Spirit ).I mean, if “ God said it “, then it is now just as inerrant as the word, because “ God said it “.
2Tim4: 3-4
[3] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; [4] And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Just wondering!
Oh!, and I’m reminded of Jesus’s extensive dialog and instructions on politics…
Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and render to God what is God’s.
Hmm?
The prophetic is big business...and when a "prophet" can validate his/her prophetic word, it can only benefit their pocket books later.
@@theouterplanet very true. I prefer to use a simple standard with this whole prophetic thing.
Who gets the glory?
Because to believe that all prophecy stopped after the Bible was finished, is to believe that God stopped moving in the world after the Bible was finished. He loves us, it stands to reason that if we let Him, He would concern Himself which each of us, personally.
@@vividclown I have always understood that verse in the framework of that *All* things belong to God, first and foremost. Caesar is just a temporary stand-in; and if "Caesar" decrees what is contrary to God, then it is Acts 5:29 for the believing Christian.
For Christians (particularly in America) to 'sit home' on Election Day out of a sense of false piety, when they have so much opportunity to make a difference (for so relative little effort and time investment) is lazy and inexcusable, if not outright disobedient. I've seen it way too many times; and regardless of what one personally believes about modern-day prophecy, that's what the progressives preach to evangelicals; i.e., that we should just "trust God and not the government" while they themselves freely push through their godless new age political agendas unhindered. 😑
On a side note, I am most grateful for Mike Winger's teachings on progressive Christianity; because I had been ostracized and gaslit (for lack of a better phrase) by them for _years_ in one online sub-community; and didn't know what in the world was going on. 😑We communicated using much common terminology, but the meanings of the terms were vastly different; and since as an evangelical I could not (in good conscience) be "affirming" I had quickly been relegated to the status of a pariah within the group. At least now I know that the problem is not with me; and what the true critical issue is for them in their refusal to acknowledge the Lordship of Christ in their lives and ministries.
This "prophecy" reminds me heavily of a "prophecy" I encountered while studying Mormon history. It was made by Mormon leader Joseph Smith in 1832, and was popularly presented by Mormons in later years as evidence that Smith was a genuine prophet because he "foretold the Civil War a generation before it came to pass!" On the surface, to a casual reader with a layman's knowledge of the Civil War and the build-up to it, Smith's 1832 "prophecy" seems remarkably accurate to what happened as it speaks of "wars that will shortly come to pass, beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina". However, to a serious historian who is aware of what the political situation was in 1832, especially relating to South Carolina, it is plain that Smith was simply keeping current in his reading of the newspapers of the time, and making human political predictions "packaged" as prophecies. South Carolina had, in fact, passed a bill nullifying a federal tariff that was deeply unpopular in the state, leading to a showdown known as the "Nullification Crisis". Then-President Andrew Jackson reacted with his usual ruthless decisiveness, and frightened the state government of South Carolina into backing down and averting the war scare for the time being. Smith's "prophecy" also contained many predictions that proved to be untrue both in the Nullification Crisis and the actual Civil War 30 years later, such as decreeing that many other nations would be drawn into the war between North and South, and a great slave revolt in the Southern states.
I love being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
The more I learn about the historical Joseph Smith, the more I love the gospel.
@@Misa_Susaki is this a bot? He just pointed out how Joseph Smith was a liar lmao
@@disguisedcentennial835 I don't think he was a liar. He was a nuanced and interesting individual.
@@Misa_Susaki please get out of Mormons it is a false religion. Mike has sermons on this very issue to assist you
@@meliossabatini3540 No, but thank you! I love the church.
A clock is right at least twice a day. A prophet should be right 100% of the time.
Thanks for sharing this Mike.
It's frustrating at times, that we have new false prophets every year, like iPhones, but finding a true man of God is a rare thing these days.
Thanks for this great content. I just wish you were world famous. You truly are a great voice for Christianity.
Careful about the pride trap, here
Mike,…you are a real watchman on the wall, for which I’m very thankful!✝️🥰
I heard from the Lord too, He spoke to me, it’s called Scripture. God has spoken to us through Scripture. Period.
Nope, He also speaks in other ways. It's absurd to say that He wouldn't.
And scripture talks about how he uses prophecy
God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
How did he speak to His children throughout scripture? We are no different....
Gods wants to have a personal and intimate relationship with you.
@@DiggitySlice prophecy and visions have been sealed since 70 AD. Daniel 9 explains it.
@@distantgalaxymusic1447 Nope. Daniel says: "Seal the words of THIS prophecy..." not ALL prophecy. Moreover, the angel meant it wouldn't be understood until the end times, not by Daniel or by anyone else.
You're a preterist, right? Preterists allegorize the prophecy of the book of Revelation which CLEARLY hasn't happened yet.
Hey Mike could you help me understand your view on the gift of prophecy? Do you think that the modern gift of prophecy can be any less than 100 percent accurate such as Grudem’s view?
Thank you for doing this video Mike. It straightens some things out for me. You are correct , that some are reading the news and low and behold almost the next day they have what they believe to be prophecies form God . There are quite a few on TH-cam. I seem to have a problem with some trying to put too much emphasis on America in Biblical prophecy. I would rather think God would show us something about the church or Israel. The Lord is returning for the glorious church not Americas politics.
My girlfriend occasionally has prophetic dreams, too many to be mere coincidence, lest anyone think that they don't exist. Her grandmother had them too.
And their accurate?
It's not surprising if the prophecy of Joel quoted by Peter in Acts is true. I am more sceptical of current day "celebrity" prophets though.
I had a dream about a coming epidemic a year before covid. Forgot about it but had posted it on my fb page. When the memory popped up I nearly fell off my chair. I how've didn't go around bragging and posting it all over I was actually terrified that I had dreamt about it. I still try avoid remembering dreams unless God brings it to memory.
I always really like how well you articulate your thoughts, and how you clearly you present them. Amazing!
Anytime i hear someone say "the Lord told me" I instantly cant take them seriously
I really really fear for the souls that say, "this is what the LORD says" and speak lies. I tremble at my core thinking of the terror of the Lord when he calls such people to give an account.
I believe in the present day operation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Having said that, an observation I've made about charismatic prophecies: When I have received "prophetic ministry" from others (many times over the years), my best evaluation is that ~90% of the time it's the kind wishful thinking of a godly person who knows Scripture, projecting on God what they would want to think He would say to me. I would say that the other 10%, by my perception, is that what was spoken was truly "from the throne" -- anointed, encouraging words, sometimes (but not always) involved information that the "prophetic minister" couldn't have known naturally. A theory I have is that sometimes people really do "hear from the Lord" and that when there is a desirable thing a prophetic person might naturally want to think God would say, that their brain can mimic the experience they've had in the past of when God really did speak to them. So, overall, I think the real really does exist, but I think most of the time what passes as "prophetic" is the kind, wishful thinking of the prophetic minister.
Great analysis Mike! It amazes me, as a believer, and Bible reader, how much the “church” gets wrapped up in politics. Jesus was wrapped up in the politics of his day, but it wasn’t the Romans that caught his attention, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s”…It was the politics inside the “church” of his day, that was all wrapped up in the political circle of the Romans, that drew his criticisms, but not the Romans themselves. The synagogue leaders, we are taught, were the hypocrites and heretics, yet the Roman soldiers who enforced the Rule over Jerusalem, we are told to “Carry their packs an extra mile”. I am in no way saying that Jesus, or anyone else biblically for that matter, supported the secular rulers and leaders of their time. What we have read is this, “no good soldier gets wrapped up in civilian affairs”. Biblically, from Christ to Paul, their actions were to call out the voices of their day that were leading the believers of God astray, their focus was on leading the children of God, towards the Kingdom of God, and steering us away from the distractions and “noise” of the world. I say that should still be our focus as well. I am not saying politics don’t matter, but I think finding one lost sheep should matter more.
Thanks for all you do Mike, I believe you are a great soldier for Christ. God bless.
We live in a democratic republic. For this reason it is our civil DUTY to elect government. We Christians neglect their duty, they do disservice to God. This country would not be in the moral shape it is in, our children would not be robbed of their faith in schools, etc. if Christians had been doing their civic duty. Rendering to Caesar in a democratic republic means more than paying a tax while keeping our eyes closed.
@@mchevalier-seawell4438
He asked who’s image is on the coin, and said give back to those who have their images on the money.
When he said give unto God what is God’s, he was saying who’s image is on us. Be more concerned about devoting your very life unto the one, who put his image on us.
Pastor Mike great job once again! I have a disdain for false prophets and teachers. (I'm working on the anger issues I have toward them) One thing I like in particular is how you make it a point to tell us to study our Bible... Even to the point of telling us not to just take your word for it. Not sure if you realize you're doing that lol... But I hope you keep it up!
It’s a cliche, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I don’t think predicting that Trump would appoint 3 Supreme Court justices was that hard. Was it likely? Actually probably likely enough.
5:24 hmmm. Sneaky, he said "it is Gods will" rather than "I prophecy that" Could easily go either way, if Trump had won they could say "look he's right again!" but since he didnt people can say "well he didnt *say* Trump would win, he just said its God's will"
Prove all things and hold fast to what is good!
I think you have an awesome gift. So glad I found your videos a few years ago. All I know is a prophet should be 100% accurate. I believe if God told him all that, that He would've also been more on point about when it would happen.
Video about 2020 propecies. Video duration: 20:20. Hmmm...Prophetic?? 🤔🧐
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And I had 666 on my TH-cam channel 🙀
The most shrewd of the false prophets are just good at connecting dots, couching their predictions with weasel words, and making enough obscure predictions that they can later say they predicted almost anything that could reasonably happen. What a plague they are on the modern Church.
Praise the Lord! Also, Mike, I love the editing and presentation of this video in particular. Excellent work, very respectful, honest, and Biblically-rooted. Praise the Lord!
I know the interview is sped up, but that fast clap at 4:30 killed me
Anyone that can listen to this guy for more than 10 seconds is surely a better man than me. Ephesians II. 20, 21, 22. And are built upon the Foundation of the Apostles & Prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone, Isn't these verses telling us no more Prophets?
No. It's just saying Apostles and Prophets laid the foundation. The church is still growing and evolving into what God ultimately wants it to be. That's why it says "until we all come into the unity of the faith".
Certainly not because I know one personally. At the very least she has prophetic moments
How are you coming to that conclusion ?
That's a funny conclusion that most "cessationists" jump to, but the text literally doesn't mean / imply that 😂.
For instance, Agabus was a new testament "prophet". The daughters of Philip prophesied as well but they absolutely have nothing to do with that text in Ephesians 2 which is obviously referring to the "Old Testament" prophets.
I have yet to find one person , who claims to be a prophet , actually PROVE themselves to be a prophet. It's always bad doctrine or heresy
by far the most prophetic dream ive had was about my daughter, i saw her in a dream before i was pregnant, like almost 6 months before i was pregnant i saw her in a crib, and i was dumbfounded, cause i just thought, "what a crazy dream, i mustve been tired" like.... totally caught me off guard to be pregnant, and when i knew i was i instantly knew shed be a girl, and then i made a bet with the ultrasound doctor, and to build a case for my insight, i Studied the skulls of babies the female versus the males, their forheads are shaped differently, so when i told that to the doctor, i pulled out the old ultrasound from like 20 weeks and explained, "dude its a girl check out her skull"
It's about time I saw more people calling these charlatans out. They are abominations. Yahuah (God) will shame them on judgement day.
I believe he was trying to speak it to existence. It’s a power play from the word of faith movement, which is why they are not written off as false prophets when they are wrong as they can simply claim it was not prophetic, but rather faith spoken or declared or decreed. 🤷🏽🤷🏽🤷🏽
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These people are smart and will always leave a door open in their “prophecies”
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Amen… I too have a also received a word… a word that shook me to the core. Was it prophetic in the sense that it was something that would happen in the future?
Yes and No… it was a confirmation… a revelation of why I needed to step into my calling now rather than later…
Growing up in a Pentecostal church and being a worshipper/preacher I have been the recipient of many “words”. But the skeptic in me also said it was because you just saw me lead worship or minister in some fashion so giving me a word at that point is an easy home run.
However, the one word that shook me was outside of church. I wasn’t in “church clothes” and there was no way the person knew who I was. I went to visit a friend at a nursing home and a pastor who was there with his church kept passing by the door and looking in at me. He passed about 3 times that I could tell and finally he got enough courage to come in and told me…
The Lord is showing me your pastoral calling and that is something you already know… but he is showing me the people who are waiting for you to take a hold of your calling… people who need to be healed, who need to be restored, who need to return to their first love again…
That word was so powerful to me because it wasn’t about “me”. It was about the lives that would be impacted in the ministry.
Then he encouraged me by telling me that the calling is for now and not for later. At that time I was just turning 30 and I always told myself that nobody wants a young pastor as most pastors in that time where much older.
Anyway, that word stuck with me for a few years until I finally opened a ministry that has gone on to help heal, restore and bring back many people to their first love again.
All glory and honor to God!
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Praise the Lord!
He still heals and he still speaks to his children!
As Jesus said! “My sheep hear my voice and they follow me”
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What is this Esther anointing he is talking about? I heard this a lot of times on TH-cam. There are so many channels with people who are talking about this Esther anointing and that they all have dreams about this and they a lot of women have this "esther anointing" or something like this.
It’s made up. There’s no Esther anointing in the Bible. They create these stupid teaching in order to feel like spiritual gurus. If they truly wanted wisdom and spiritual maturity, they would read the Bible and not eat this garbage.
Tldr: it’s fantasy from pride. You’re not missing anything
There seems to be some weird kind of psudo-reincarnation beliefs in a lot of these groups
Man, I just love brother Mike! God bless you ✝️❤️
Very helpful Mike, thank you....However, may I offer an observation on how you present your analysis, please? I can understand your rationale for speeding up the source material which your are presenting so that it doesn't take as much time from the overall length of the video, however, I think that is counter productive for two reasons. (1) It is almost mocking them, the speeded-up voices and gestures making it comical when the original delivery was not done in that vein, no matter what we may think of its veracity, and, (2) that we should, as viewers, be exercising OUR discernment as we listen to that which you are critiquing in order that WE might develop our ability to hear from the LORD for ourselves, and indeed that we might test and weigh what YOU yourself are saying by way of analsysis. For context, I know that prophecy and the gifts are for today and I have spent decades watching the "prophets" and the charismatic movement. I am firmly convinced that true "prophets" are in fact extremely rare and that nearly every single "prophet" in the USA that I know of is actually false and talks a lot of garbage cobbling together "God words" and New Age type "spiritual" concepts as the Word of God...I HATE it, and so, I believe, does the LORD. Anyway, thanks again for your ministry: I've often been blessed by your teaching. 🙂
Most prophesies in the past before the church began, had a purpose and that purpose was to legitimize or prove who the Christ is, (who do you say that I am?)
What would be the purpose of any modern day prophecies?
They could still convince people of christ, if they are able to legitamitly tell the future in a meaningful way
The test of a true prophet of God was 100% accuracy. If their prophecy did not come true, they were stoned to death. I don't see 100% accuracy these days and on the contrary, I hear excuses for inaccuracies such as from Bethel of Redding. Modern day prophets are not held to the biblical standards.
Hebrews 1:2
Ezekiel prophesied that God would raise up a man to warn the end-time house of Israel, Judah, and the rest of the world before the Tribulation started, so clearly there is still a huge amount of importance as far as the prophetic office is concerned.
Mike, I have a challenge for you, theres a man named Ian Ndlovu, he gives accurate prophecies concerning international events, try to analyse his prophecies.
Aren't these so-called prophets the people Jesus will say “Away from me I never knew you”? And is this guy speaking at 4times speed? If not I'm having a seizure.
I agree with you on the false prophecy ordeal. They sped up what the guy was saying to fit time constraints I'm sure.
@@1Keldrid Thank you! It was freaking me out because I have epilepsy and have been having auras/partial seizures tonight. My brain is weird right now and it's hard to tell what's real.
@@tracykarol No worries! It was just sped up because they wanted to make the point more brief. Jesus bless you!
Hasn't anyone noticed, that when
"verifying" a prophecy; in the Bible prophecies were about the Lord? Not politics.
Have you ever read Daniel 11. It's all politics.
@@jasontarmon8505 I understand what you mean, however, those scriptures concern the end times and the anti-christ probably after the Rapture. The emphasis to me is on God's ability to know what will happen. God is glorified. The thoughts of that self proclaimed prophet come from himself, not scripture ; so attention is drawn to himself. Isn't that pride; drawing attention to oneself?
Thank you for putting this in perspective. We need to be anchored in the Word of God. Not following prophecies like this one.
Great insightful analysis Mike!! Very well researched and articulated! Good job!
This guy is a scam artist. A reprobate. If Yu go on Jim bankers show Yu are definitely a non Christian.
One glaring point is that the so-called prophet said that the Lord showed him in a dream that the stuff was going to happen. Mike made a great point of showing how all of it was in the news prior to when he supposedly had this dream. I'll say it the guy a liar and deceiver and it is lucrative and he's trying to make money.
Everything he said was common speculation that was being repeated all over political message boards at the time.
As most do and are!!!
Of all the phony bologna nonsense...
Mike Winger is cool!
Mike, excellent work! Funny that you posted this considering I have been working on a book examining prophecies. Would you be opposed if I include this in the book? What I mean is to show how prophets - false or not, Christian or otherwise - can and SHOULD be tested.
Keep up the great work!
Hey send me an email of it id love to read it. If you know any prophets today that would be awesome
Remember, a true prophet of God never gets anything wrong.
Deuteronomy 18:22
“when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.”
In the New Testament, prophets are to be judged by 2-3 witnesses, after they speak. They is not held to the same standard as in the Old Testament.
@@57andstillkicking how could a prophecy be judged right after they speak, wouldn't you need time to see if it came to pass. I don't believe this verse means what you think it means, I mean why would God suddenly tolerate false prophets, I just don't believe God would.
Not only that, even if what the prophet predicted came true, but the prophet was enticing people away from the LORD, they were to be stoned to death. Deut 13:1-5. JB & CBSR, New Testament prophecy is not about prediction, so testing what they say would have a different sense. Also, God "tolerates" all of us imperfect, sinful people, so I could understand Him "tolerating" false prophets.
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@@cisuminocisumino3250 Can you please give the reference ? Thanks in advance.
Mike through the years your work has gotten even better. This was an impressive assessment and insightful video. Well done!
Ahhh. Thank you Mike. When I first heard the date this was aired I was like "wow.. hmm". Jesus himself told us to beware of false prophets. Thank you Mike for doing the work for us lol. Your the best 😁
Really liking these shorter videos put out lately. Much easier to listen to with my job.
As for the “prophecy” I saw right off the issues with the implied re-election of Trump and the “period of Divide” followed by a “period of Honor” ( though that might not be the exact wording). I have to put this guy in “false prophet “ category though if he had other “true” prophecies that can not be explained other wise I might say “false prophet but interesting”
He also took "faith without works is dead" out of context. That verse is about living like you're saved, not manifesting your belief in a prophecy by acting.
but he applied it to responsible living in the present, ie. get out and vote for righteousness.
@@johnangelico667 Which is still wrong, because James taught this within the context of keeping God's commandments, not voting. Religious voters tend to weaponize that passage without understanding exactly what James is talking about, and then completely reject/ignore the doctrinal context.
Hey Pastor Mike! I have a question, I'm not sure if you'll get this, but I'm hoping you do. My brother-in-law just recently became saved! PRAISE JESUS!! But, his mom, is not saved. I'm pretty sure she's into the new age, crystals have power kind of movement... I'm not really sure on all of those beliefs, not trying to make fun, just really am ignorant. Anyway, she went into a Christian book store and got my brother-in-law a daily devotional by a man named Solly Ozrovech. When I read it, he would have a verse, and the paragraph underneith would have nothing to do with the verse. Here's my question, because I'm new to the world of Biblical scholars, and Christian authors, do you know anything about this guy? Is it really a good devotional, and I just can't tell? Or is what he's giving false? I apologize for the length of this lol, but I'm hoping that you can take the time out and let me know. I really want to be able and help my brother-in-law, but I'm "out of my element" as it were. Thank you so much! -Renae
Mike, thank you for speaking out on this topic and these types of prophecies. Love how you unpacked this scenario and touched on self-deceit. My whole family is incredibly blessed and edified by your ministry. Keep up the great work for God’s Kingdom and His Glory!
Come, Lord Jesus! The Spirit and the bride say, come!
More like biased and evilfied...
Amy C Barrett was on the list back when Kananagh was nominated. I remember discussing back then why didn't they choose her, instead of a guy with these issues? That was 2018. ACB was shortlisted more than a year before Ginsburg passed on. It didn't take a prophet to think of who was going to be chosen, given Trump wanted to keep pro-lifers/Evangelicals voting/supporting him and ACB was shortlisted. News vs Propechy is my judgment.
Discernment is one of the gifts of the Spirit. I pray for it all the time.
You've been blessed with that gift my friend.
Great video. Well done Mike
God bless this ministry.
NEVER EVER FALLOW A prophet , follow the HOLY SPIRIT , IF, IF , IF , they are true prophets of GOD they will be a second wittness to what the Holy Spirit has already told you or showed you , true prophets will tell you to follow the Holy Spirit .
Mike it would have been great if you would have James Goll on your show to explain himself.
A video about prophecy and politics. I can't see many people wanting to comment on this video. If they do, I'm sure they'll be nice uncontroversial comments...
I’m going to admit, Mike, this topic cut me deep. I’ve listened and respected James Goll so much over the past few years. Listened to his podcast, bought his books. I embraced his teachings on dreams. I recall a few moments during that time I would have little red flags raised with some content, but I largely ignored them because I found him to be so credible and thought perhaps it was just my own lack of knowledge with items that was leading to some discernment with his content. When he prophesied about Amy, I heard it live, and I remember it truly adding to his credibility. Recently, I’d been drawn to his prophecies on the Russian/Ukraine conflict.
I am so grateful for your work, Mike, and to help us test prophecy. There’s so much more to Mr. Goll though than you see here in a sped up (which was very jarring and I think made him appear creepy and weird)isolated moment of him.
My heart is really saddened to see the approach to him as if he’s an object and not a person. An object to dismiss. But can we please pray for him. He has a really powerful testimony, a beautiful family, and a big heart for God. I know prophets are held to a different standard, but I feel implored to say before we judge and toss away, can we also pray for him in love? And anyone impacted by false prophecies, or prophetic culture?
I pray Jesus guide them in Truth and Love.
Pastor Danna Coverstone does the same thing. He admired that, in his words, he reads 50 news papers everyday, obviously one of those pastoral exaggerations.
But then he claims to have these dreams from God. People eat up everything he says but he really isn’t saying anything. I don’t really know of any of his dreams that have “come true”.
To me it just seems like it's all about pride. God spoke to me like I'm special, I'm unique.
@spirals 73 Where does the Bible say THAT, though?
"But if any prophet dares to speak a message in My name that I have not commanded him to speak, or to speak in the name of other gods, that prophet must be put to death.21 You may ask in your heart, “How can we recognize a message that the LORD has not spoken?” 22When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD and the message does not come to pass or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." Deut 18:20-22
The test of a prophet is clear and simple. This is how seriously God takes prophesy. These guys in this video are sincere, but seem more to be wanting it to be true than to take a discerning look at it. I have also become very disheartened over the complete lack of discernment among Christians over the past couple of years especially soaking up all the Propaganda Satan can hand out, and I just cringe when ever I hear a Christian, let alone a Christian leader say "I'm just not that political". God in his infinite wisdom and sovereignty put you in a Democratic form of Government for a reason. I'm reminded of a common sentiment after the Holocaust, "Where were the Christians?" Christians need to do better and start practicing better discernment as we are called to do during these last days.
Justice Barrett’s name had been in the conversation going back to Gorsuch. Republicans have always liked her cause she learned from Justice Scalia. So to speculate that it is her was normal even before 2019. Love your stuff Mike!
She was a top 5 pick from Mark Levin before Trump was ever elected in 2016. I was shocked that Cavanaugh was picked before her.
It seems that the radio hosts( 2 guys) really want that guys prophecy to be true. Making excuses for the guy prophesying. Correct me if I’m wrong, Doesn’t God says it crearly that guy is a false prophet, Doesn’t God hate evil and those who lead the flock away from truth. Does t God will bring the wrath upon those who made up prophecy. Isn’t Pastor Baker the guy hosting the false prophet a false phrophet Himself?
Great job checking the news and dates!!
The idea of "prophecies" that require us to do the work to make them come to pass are not prophecies.
God would send prophets to warn people to repent or they would destroy this city, but he wouldn't send people to day, "I'm going to cause XYZ, if you cause XYZ."
Most of the people these days declaring to be prophets are false . this guy is on the Jim Bakker show- his credibility is done and over with as far as im concerned!!!! I've seen the kinds of people. Bakker has had on his show!!! Its nothing but a hot mess!!!
Nothing but deception!!!!
Yes. Got in trouble for peddling the Word of God in the 80s and clearly hasn’t learned.
You know the prophesy is bunk, because when in the history of prophesy has God shown himself to be interested in partisan politics? When someone says some prophesy and then says "And that's why you should vote Republican (or Democrat)" I smell a rat.
Mike, thank you so much for your wisdom in evaluating these false prophets. Keep up the great work!
KIRBY DE LANEROLLE is the latest prophet that is wowing (no pun intended as his church is called WOW LIFE). Please look into him Mike as he seems to be particularly dangerous and concerning. A friend of mine actually moved from Arizona to Sri Lanka to attend his church. Claiming Jesus all the way he is without a doubt incorporating kabbalah, vedic, new age practices in his ministry and no one is raising an eyebrow. FYI he was early on pushing breatharianism and claimed to have gone without food for 5 yrs. When I heard about him 10 yrs ago I thought " it just seems like these people are constantly looking for the latest and cutting edge revelation and prophet. They seem bored." That was when I started my way out of these circles. P.S. your TH-cam ministry coming in clutch for people like me who are not cessationist but cautious discerning continuationists after a stint in these kooky prophetic circles.👍 Thanks.
Keep up the great work!
Mike, just a curious question for you. Do you think there are any known prophets at this time? I see a lot of people out there that state they have this connection, and I know it is a possibility, but do you believe there is an individual(s) that really do have a prophetic word to share?
Mike... How do i really confront a person who's claimed prophecies did not come true, buy who claimed it was from God. I like this person alot mike
@Larry Find in the Bible (my mom could have pointed right to it!) Where it says that if their predictions or whatever aren't ALWAYS right, then they are fake. False prophet.
Since they’re probably in a delusion and have attached their “prophesies” to spiritual pride, you may have to ask questions and carefully pick apart what they think instead of just saying “you’re wrong” otherwise they’ll shut down. Definitely compare things to the Bible, but try to get them to think biblically on their own with your help, don’t just tell them the answers.
Deut 18
I have read deut 18 and it makes it pretty clear tnx. The approach however is difficult in this situation. I want this person to really consider whats on the table here, but this person is very proud and boastful of "being filled with the spirit, speaking through the spirit and being a man of god" labeled a man of God at work ect.... But unfortunately not all prophecies are fulfilled, and he makes alot daily lol.... Tnx for the feedback
Mark Taylor said Trump would appoint 3 judges years ago. There are lots of "profits" out there who used Esther reference, saying it may be Melania. Itchy ears!