Chug Battle!! (5150 edition) Headrush MX5 vs. Ampero 2 Stomp
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- In this chug battle we are comparing the 5150 models in the Headrush MX5 vs the 5150 in the Ampero 2 Stomp AS WELL as the REAL 5150 Block Letter amplifier! CHUG TASTIC.
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The dryness you're talking about is probably because the Headrush 5150 is based on a 5150II while the Ampero is based on a regular 5150. I always felt the 5150II had a more usable sweep of gain while the 5150 reached max dirt really early on the knob.
Ampero lineup are hands down the kings of (Modern) chug
Man I have made a couple of crushing rhythms on my MX5 off of the rectifier models and they crush!!!!! I run them into the front end of my clean channel on my Peavey XXX into 2 4x12s with my ESP 7 with Fishman Fluence Moderns and it’s about the heaviest thing I’ve ever heard!!! Great video man!!!
Thanks! 🙌
@Cory Jackson Would you mind sharing the settings you use for the mesa and whatever boost/eq you use. I am having a hell of a hard time trying to nail down a nasty rectifier tone and am ready to give up on it.
Thanks for all these modeler comparisons you put together, it really does help a lot.
I thought the Hotone sounded WAY better when you compared the two by themselves but in a full band mix, they all sounded pretty good.
Can't wait to see you again on the battlefields of Chug!!! \m/
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They each hold up, just marginally different and not in a better or worse sense. I tend to favour the really atmospheric Blackened Death Metal demonstrations, but to really test the tightness and gain quality, the staccato style demonstration was ideal. As for the dryness, I think putting the modellers through a tube power amp, or the tube power amp section of any amp, will help to mitigate that aspect of the sound to some degree.
That’s awesome you like the more death metal stuff. I haven’t actually made a new demo song in a while since I’ve been super busy with the family lately. This was from when I first started my channel and my philosophy was make more “general” sounding metal to appeal to more people. Definitely not my ethos anymore lol.
@Mark Seymour The Laney Ironheart, in my opinion, is a rather underrated beast. Great amp with a lot of high gain potential and good set of features out of the box; one I hope to acquire someday. By the way, is it true that with the Ironheart, the XLR cab emulation includes the power section of the amp?
Regarding your experience. What you describe does make sense, as with certain amps and setups, the real tone emerges when the speakers are being given a certain level of baseline push to get them roaring, so to speak.
@Mark Seymour Thanks for that, and well said.
Ampero sounds better to my ear. Both sound good though. The real deal block letter had a pretty noticeable increase in punch (fullness) than either modeler. Which actually shocked me little bit because modelers sound pretty brutal.
agreed, more realistic in my opinion, I wonder how it would compare to my 5150III if I connected the ampero through the fx loop and bypassed the amps distortion
I think the modelers' dryness could come from the solid state poweramp, I wonder how they'd sound through the same power section, maybe one day when you're bored you could redo this comparison using one power amp, for example the peavey's ;)
anyway, awesome vid as always, cheers!
I love mine into the clean channel of my XXX.
both are pretty good i like the headrush "dry" sound can hear the riff and notes a tad better for my ear imo
Darn it! They all sound really great actually! Hard to pick a fave here!
Ampero has weird cutting below 100hz...Those freqs or depth are prominent to make you feel like the sound is coming from an real amp, However, they have this issue since the first generation but I did not know that they haven't change that on the improved gen. It seems like to be cut off by intention, because usually mixing engineer will give a high pass filter to cut off the frequency below the lowest note of guitar, but I believe they cut too much of it. If you set up an global eq to boost the freq below 100hz it should sound better on almost all their amp module.
MX5 sounds best in the mix. Great video
I will say the dryness is coming for the power amp try it with a FRFR a world of difference.
Thanks 🙌
headrush for me
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So close! It's a Coke & Pepsi situation!
😂 almost like it’s preference?
Man, all these modeler shootouts really make me want to get one, but I have 6 Neural DSP plugins because of black friday sales and I'd feel bad not using them 😭
Awesome video as always! I'm surprised how much the MX5 cut through the mix without too much tweaking
So cool. I got a used mx5 and was playing with 5150 metal core sounds today. Ended up with very similar settings and I have never played an actual peavey evh amp.
Headrush are the beast I put a lot of IR into it from Bogren Digital, Kristian Kohle, and Ownhammer that you can customize whatever you want to do with your tone. And its Heavvyy as fck.. 🤘🤘
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Headrush 7:47
Real deal 8:05
Hotone 8:01
Aw crap both of these look/sound better than my GE200...
The Ampero clearly sounded closer to the real amp. Ironically though, the MX5's darker(muddier?) tone actually fit really well in the mix here. It's kind of funny to me because I returned the MX5 in favor of the Ampero II precisely because the MX5 always felt dark/vieiled to me in comparison. It just goes to show that in the right mix, any modeler can find its place!
It’s does. I mean, to be fair if I was mixing this demo for real, I’d dial back the gain on the real amp and the Ampero, the mx5 just kind of sits there naturally
@@TaylorDanley Fair point! Maybe for your next video, you could dial in a good mix tone from the real amp and then try to replicate that tone from the modelers? It think it would give us a better idea of which modelers is the most accurate at modeling the amp and we'd avoid this weird situation where the technical "loser" ends up sounding better in the mix. Not to mention that getting your personal thoughts and impressions from working with the different modelers to try to replicate the tone would be very interesting. Just an idea. :)
I like the real amp sound best, a very very very close second is the Ampero. Imo the Headrush sounds like it has a carpet over the cab.
Mx5 is way tighter and sound great in mix. Ampero is flubby and sounds like traditional over saturated loose gain.
Couldn’t agree more
Very true
That's called compression and is a good indicator for loss of dynamics.
Another great video !
I think both sounds really good.
At the starting point, the Ampero sound good right away. With mx5, you put an eq between amp and cab (or IR), or put dual amp. A bit more of works but after I think the sound can be more real, more wide.
In your video, when you start with the mx5, it’s missing something and look like missing gain / saturation, but sound more organic to me.
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P.s.: at the moment, the mesa boogie mark IIc amp with the mx5, sounded the best for metal
Great comparison...Question, Does one feel better?
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Hotone Ampero 2.. impresive..
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@@TaylorDanley Thanks T.D
I think the mx5 matches the chug battle like even through mu phone speaker i can feel the low end through the speaker the ampero has more treble or something
To be honest all these new mojos are kick ass in the butt, its difficult to find out which one to choose, even though an amp guy if they want to choose a backup or send return use, they all sound so close and different reviews got different sounds! HUSH! what to do? An MX5 for blackstar HT50 send return? or the lower pricing nux mg30?
Just a slight difference, in this case I liked the real thing the best still.
Ampero sounds good but the mx5 sounds really good in the mix.
Nah it's wack
What this signal chain guitar? How did you turn on this signal chain to te speaker?
Awesome
Taylor please show us the back of your guitar-rack. Really curious 😃✌
They're very similar going through the same 3rd party IR, so I'm putting the Headrush sounding better in the mix down to the choice of cabinet/mic positioning... or maybe the Ampero isnt quite as polished yet post-amp as the Headrush? Headrush sounded way brighter.
I have the original Ampero I am just getting to learn....
Can anyone tell me if I bought the ampero could I hook it up to my boss katana artist mkii and use that as a powered cab basically
Yes, run into the power amp in of your Katana, i use my MX5 that way, fromo Mono output to the power amp in, and always with IRs ir cabs ON
which sound is most accurate to real life if you re-wathch this video on your tv or home stereo?
youtube and mic and Interface all add up to make a real difference.
my home tv with decent stereo & speakers is the best sound i have available ( im sure its probably the best we can all do as listeners)
we know our phone/bt speaker is nowhere near really being in the room with you
I dig it but they sound very thin idk y
Are you running those through that Mesa cab? If so what power amp are you using?
the ampero is closer to the amp, but the headrush sounds better in the mix. I personally think it makes absolutely no sense to use the same parameters in both units since they are clearly voiced differently. You can't start from a patch that sounds good in the headrush and compare it to the ampero. The other way around makes no sense either. I'd rather hear a good sound of each amp tailored for each harware and hear your impressions regarding feel, response, etc than this.
I liked them both, but if I had to pick Id say the Ampero2 for the win!
Does the MX5 have the same delay of the Ampero when activating the effects in the chain?
Man the ampero sounds way better in my opinion at least stock cab wise... I might have bought the wrong modeler lol
Man, I was chugging along with ML Roots and brah, MX5 is close but no sir, 5034 with stock cab eats those, including the real amp :) MX5 has to take that one though. Sounds like you're tuned to C# man?
Ampero has that digital fizz that most Sims have. Now for the Headrush, is it possible that you adjusted the global eq at some point and didn't reset it? Dialing back the upper freqs will alter the gain structure. Also have found adding 15-20% on the drive pedal adds that oomph that these are lacking.
No, global EQ was off. I messed around with it quite a bit, and I just think in general it has a drier, stiffer quality.
Real amp won 😉🤘
Awesome video 👍
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Test the reverb & compare. And u will find the hotone reverb is junk.
I bought the hotone ampero becaus me I watched this and let me tell you it sucks the noise background noise is terrible and the hx stomp is 100 times better. So if you your gonna get one get the hx stomp the ampero 2 sucks balls and I wasted my money
Huh. Anderton was raving about how great the noise gate is on the ampero- sounded like it stopped on a dime to me in their video