Excellent build! Well thought out budget screener, with great detail on how/why you built it the way you did. I am definitely going to use some of your ideas!
thanks for the kind words. i sure have enjoyed this machine. it was a long time hit and miss project but well worth it and my only regret is not building it sooner.
Thanks, Dave. Up here in the hills of N PA, we have a little bit of soil between our rocks, and I'm always scrounging for topsoil and fill dirt. Been ruminatin' on something like you built there for a while now, and need to get to it soon. Thanks for all the good, common sense tips! Great job!
thanks Dave. I have been very pleased with how well this machine has held up. even the wood with no paint on it stays out in the weather yet its holding up very well. I plan to shake some more stuff through it over the next couple of weeks. may make another video to show it in action. thanks for watching. let me know when you get yours running I would love to see it.
Great job! As I’m watching, I’m going thru my scrap inventory! Thanks for posting...I’ve been thru the cancer thing and advise you to just keep focused on the light at the end of the tunnel! Wishing you a continued recovery.
love using the scraps I have laying around. thanks for the encouragement and advice. you will enjoy having a super shaker soil sifter, this thing is cool!
thanks, I was excited about it. I wanted it to work that way but I was not sure exactly how to make it work. the duel v belt idler pulley did the trick.
thanks James, it was a fun project and a much needed project. I been very pleased with how well it works. took a while to gather up the parts but was well worth the effort.
Thanks for your detailed shaker build. I'm finishing up garage machine shop. A 5' shaker for 5' tractor bucket is on my list. One thing I'd do, build a dust and rain cover for engine.
yes the dust gets the motor really dirty. I was so worried it would over heat the motor with a dust / rain cover so I skipped that idea. I may revisit the idea not sure yet. its still working great
thats a brilliant idea !!!!! you just gave me my next project , I too found a dealership that sells side by sides and snowmobiles that comes in metal crates , I made 2 trips with my 20ft trailer built my wife a round pen, and built gates and still have enough for this
me to, I miss being in the tractor seat actually doing something. I lasted about an hour and then I had to stop. I guess I need to take baby steps to work up to longer seat time.
Hi . Love your inovation ... If i understand correctly the idler pulley driving the screen pulley is actuall attached to the hinged rod ? If so , how is it fastened to the rod and i imagine the hinged rod is turning also? How is the hinged rod attached so it doesnt move out of the other hinged section? And is the hinged rod fastened on pillow block bearings ? Thanks
the idler pulley has a bearing so it turns on that bearing. the hinge rod does not turn its welded in place. I also welded a bolt on the end of the hinge rod that fits the idler pulley's bearing. I then used two flat washers one on each side of the idler pulley and then a nylon locking nut to keep the idler pulley from falling off. the idler pulley just spins free since its on nearly the exact same axes as the hinge rod the belts stay the same length no matter what angled position I set the vibrating platform on. this thing still works perfectly and I have sent a lot of rock and dirt through it.
Great invention Dave. Better than some of the pricey shaker/sifters. Yep, I was wondering if you've been editing. I like that shaker. The only thing that kind of slows up the process is sorting out plastic but it's a whole lot better than sorting by hand. Pretty ingenious work and you used what you've got. Saw Daisy checking things out when you were making the video. Not much going on here either over the 4th, but every day I wake up is a blessing. Have a happy Independence Day.
thanks brother, I hope you have a great independence day as well. if not for folks like you that gave your all in service to this great nation we would not have our independence to celebrate. thanks a million!
I used valve springs from a car cylinder head . For my vibrating rod I stitch welded 3/16" square stock across the entire round bar to a couple of inches shy of the pillow blocks.Throws it out of balance just enough that I can turn engine RPMs down and helps keep the round stock from bending too much under a load. Hoping to up-grade to hydraulic drive along with creation of an elevator to feed it and another to move the dirt from under it to a pile as all 3 will be driven from same hydraulic pump with separate spools to each unit. Now to find the money!!!
yes ultimately the money has to be there! lol you sound like you have a solid plan I would love to see a video of this when its done or even as you are building it.
an electric vibrator may work well for that. they cost about the same as just a gas motor and would make building it much easier. here is one for pretty cheap on amazon www.amazon.com/Concrete-Vibrator-Vibration-Vibrating-Vibrators/dp/B076Q68HSW/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=vibrator+motor&qid=1571879270&sr=8-4
thats what I wanted to hear! I looked at several videos with shakers and screeners but not one really showed how it was built. I hope this video helps a lot of people. thanks for watching and thanks for taking time to comment.
It looks like it works really well. I like that you used stuff that you had to make it. That is how most of my projects are. You should get a winch with a wireless remote and make it so you can change the angle of the sifter or to dump debris off of it from the seat of your tractor.
Great work! This is by far the best design I've seen of all the home made sifters. I've been able to source most of the parts but can't find a double groove V-belt idler pulley. Where did you get yours from? Was it off a mower deck by chance or did you buy it new somewhere?
I bought it on ebay. its a Dayton double pulley here is a listing for one similar to mine may even be exact not sure. www.ebay.com/itm/Drive-Belt-Idler-Pulley-Dayco-89056-/333149508673?hash=item4d91421441
Hey Dave. I know this is an older video, but I pretty much watched the whole video to find out ... how you make it shake! Lol. I need to sift wood loam (lots of humus) to get as much topsoil out of it as I can. Got the whole thing pretty much figured out, pillow bearings and all (you’re two belt idler pulley system is a Huge improvement. It’s so typical of your kind of quirky genius). But I’m stuck at the ‘shaking’ part. Been thinking, some sort of cam? Or shuttle arrangement, or ... Stuck. How do you make it shake?
honestly it shook enough with nothing but the shaft spinning in the pillow block bearings. in this video there is no cam or out of balance weight. since this video I did take a chunk of steel that measured about 2.5 inches by 3.5 inches by 3/8 thick. bored a hole the same size as the spinning shaft and slid it on the end of the shaft opposite the motor. the hole that is bored is off center by 1/3 of the 3.5 measurement. this created a lot more shake. I run the motor at a relatively medium to low RPM. hope this helps. if you comment with your email address I can send you a picture.
@@mikeclements847 if you email me at Daveknowshow@aol.com I can send you a photograph that will show what makes it shake. although as I stated in the above comment it shook fine before adding the counter weight to the spinning shaft.
@@daveknowshow Hello Dave, I'm a long fun of yours from California, I read your comment above and just wondering if you could send pics of the spinning rod on both ends with the additional 2.5 x 3.5 piece and the pulley side. would appreciate the pics send out to silentyr25@yahoo.com, again thanks in advance more power to you
Good stuff - thanks for sharing your sifter! I've got to get some river rock out of some soil I'm backfilling with and am thinking about using my trailer tailgate as a temporary solution.
it will work its a lot slower though. I have sifted lots of dirt using that method. took off the ramp and sit it on cinder blocks. if its real dry dirt it works faster.
of center small weight was added but honestly in this video I think it was just the shaft spinning that shook it. cant remember. anyhow after all these years of heavy use it finally self destructed three days ago. lol I'm doing the repairs now and may have a video to show the updated improvements.
I thought I said in the video that I made a weight for it but decided it was not needed for this application. it seems to vibrate enough from the shaft just turning. I may put the out of balance weight on it when doing soil but with rocks I was afraid they would launch ten feet away from the machine and I wanted them to land close by.
yes I move it with my front forks. works pretty good although I'm leaning towards building a three point hook up for it so I can move it from the rear of the tractor. its a little hard to see driving with it in front of the tractor.
as a welder and mfg for over 37 years I use coil springs out of the front end of old half ton trucks, they hold up very well and give the rack a good shaking witch you need when screening black top soil, , you should be loading from the low side not the high side as the rocks build up you can drive up the rock pile to get a much higher drop out of the bucket, you don't need a hinge of any kind on the screen frame, use 4 to 8 coil springs on the corners, 1 to 2 on each with a sett of cross bars with a heavy bolt on each end like a strut to keep it strait as it shakes, a solid hinge make it rigid and brakes up your frame even when you build it out of 4 x 6 tubing 3/8" wall, the legs where the screened material lands needs to be wider then any bucket that will be used so you can get the stuff out
truck springs were much to large. the hinge is not on the part that shakes. loading from the opposite side would surely get my hood and front end destroyed, my bucket it 5 foot wide and the base is 6 foot wide so i have plenty of room to get in and out. i know i cant screen mud threw it but so long as i dont just drop heavy loads of wet dirt all at once it should work fine. its never hard to over build something it takes skill to build it just strong enough and more skill to not abuse it to the point of destroying it. you have to know the limitations of your equipment. i can destroy and abuse just about any of the heaviest built equipment. thanks for the input.
well I appreciate it but I tried using coil springs from a jeep. they were to big made the shaker part to high. I then looked at using the leaf springs from a jeep. still to high. these springs are low profile seem durable and vibrate very nicely. they are much like those used in commercial shaker tables in manufacturing plants. I like having the hinge so I can adjust the tilt angle of the main platform. the hinge is not connected to the vibrating part so it does not hinder the vibration at all. I dont think loading the shaker from the other side is a good idea at all. the debris and rocks coming off the screen would destroy the front of the tractor in no time at all. I'm thinking about adding a wash system to it next so I can wash the rock on the second pass threw the shaker. something simple, a few nozzles hooked to my power washer should do the trick. I'd love to see some videos of the ones you built or maybe you will do a video of the next one you build and show it in action. thanks again for the input.
I don't have any video of any of them that I made over the years, I just got into you tube vidios not long ago, but yes the next one I build ill do vidios of the build for the customer an show how it is used and run, no chance of hurting any tractor unless you were dumb enough to dump a 2 foot bolder on to, then possible something could happen, I know your hinge is not part of the shaker frame movement. thank you for not being one of the kind that do all snaky when you try to give them 37 years of mfg knowledge
every thing I know I taught myself or learned working beside seasoned craftsman in various trades. I often look for others advice or opinion on projects. in fact I researched youtube high and low about building this very shaker. every thing and and every one has room for improvement, adjustments and so on. I'm sure most people who spend countless hours researching a project and then countless more building the project do get a little upset when someone comes along after all their hard work and say " no this is all wrong you should have done it this way because I say so and because I have so many years doing xyz" . so try not to take offense when someone gets agitated over it. I'm sure if you spent the time on a project, and made a video of it and someone came along and told you it was all wrong, and the only way to do it correctly was their way, well you may get a bit agitated as well. there are many ways to skin a cat. as far as small rocks bouncing off the hood of a tractor causing damage, heck I was upset that my tractor got dusty and dirty. lol ha ha. most of the time people who post videos on youtube are looking for confirmation that they are doing something good and correctly. most folks dont post videos online to just have folks tell them what they did wrong. most folks have a wife that tells them what they did wrong plenty at home. ha ha lol I appreciate the in put.
Take all that shit off. Get a truck axle with the differential and rims. Weld a sprocket to the yolk. Hookup a motor and sprocket to turn the differential. Cut a piece of 4 inch pipe in half the longway. Cut the pipe in sections long enough to reach one edge of the rim to the other edge. Then you have half circles. Weld those to the rims that are on the axle (take the tires off) in a manner so when the wheels turn the half circles would make it hop up and down if it were rolling on the road. Mount a tire (on an axle) to the shaker deck. Mount everything on a manner so when the differential spins the rims with half circles on them, they turn the tire that is mounted to the deck and each time the half circles hit the tire they make it bounce up and down. Of course the deck is on springs. So every half circle spinning make the deck shake when they hit the tire on the deck. The faster the differential turns, the faster those rims will make that tire bounce around. Then you have heavy duty bearings meant for trucks and weather. They don't go bad for 10 years? No special parts needed, truck bearings, any size tire, and no belt. That would shake the hell out of the deck. None of that belt tensioner trying to keep the belt tight while the belt jumps around due to the deck shaking. All heavy duty weather resistant bearings.
sounds like a lot of trouble and a lot of added weight. as it is it works flawlessly and is relatively lighter in weight compared to truck differentials, chain drives, rims and tires. the way it is I can easily lift it and put it on a trailer to haul from job to job. your way sound extremely heavy and would likely make it jump around to much and destroy itself in short order. your way would also require a heavier built sifting platform because tis one would never hold up to that sort of abuse. these things are by design self destructive so building them in a fashion where cost and weight is kept low is very important. with that said I would love to se you build your design and make a video showing that design. send me a link to the video or the video itself and I will gladly share your design or link to your video at the end of this video. thanks for the comment. I will wait to see your design in action. please keep in touch on the progress.
@@daveknowshow True. I came up with the idea pondering gold mining equipment that handle rocks. I see those belts slappin and bearings go bad. I'm thinkin put a heavy duty axle and wheel on there it won't fail. It'll hold up to weather too. Yea I'm not thinkin light soil. I'm thinkin at minimum a yard of bigger rocks and dirt. I saw a trommel built with a truck axle. I laughed and thought it was the most brilliant thing, cheap too. Damn a 10,000 dollar custom sprocket and 5 thousand dollar chain. Truck axle with tires and that drum will spin.
The springs are Highly secret. I know what they are called but I am going to need a 10,000 dollar pay out to reveal the name of them. The other soil sifter manufacturers will retailiate when I reveal the secret.
yeah seems that way these springs I used from the hardware section in lowes are for hanging porch swings from they work really well. I dont remember the item number but it may be listed in one of the comments or description. I did add two more and I may add two more. the machine still runs great and does a great job. thanks for watching
increasing the angle merely makes the product move off the screen faster and not sift as thoroughly as it does at this angle . this angle seemed to be perfect for the material at hand. tractor RPM was set at 540 pto speed which is less than the rated RPM of the engine which the tractors performance is rated it. so my RPM is set lower than the rated RPM by the manufacturer for top performance and clean economical burn of fuel as well as RPM of the hydraulic pump to maintain proper flow rates and pressure.
yes it was a funny joke between a subscriber and myself and the play on words was " soul sister " verses " soil sifter " sorry you failed to get the funny play on words. also you might be interested to know that I have a handicap and a slight speech impediment which may result in words not being pronounced correctly. I have a 7th grade education due to reasons beyond my control but I still do the best I can to provide youtube content for people like you that enjoy bullying and ridiculing me for every little mistake in grammar I make. enjoy your day and may the Lord truly bless you with compassion.
@@kyleoglee you will enjoy having it. I done sent a pile of rocks and dirt through this machine and its holding up remarkably well. I love this thing and so glad I finally finished it. its not something I use every day but when I need it man does it do a nice job!
not really but it is pressing the limit. I wanted it as tall as it could be to get more angles of adjustment and not have to empty the screened compartment as often. as it is I can run a lot of material through it before it reaches a point that I must start removing the screened material to make more room. the screened material is what helps stabilize the machine in place and not move due to the vibration of the machine. yes it vibrates that much that it moves when the area around the machine is empty.
Excellent build! Well thought out budget screener, with great detail on how/why you built it the way you did. I am definitely going to use some of your ideas!
this thing has truly been put to the test. its still going strong just used it again last week.
Dave knows how. Dave knows how to NOT overbuild it. If this ain't my favorite build video on these, I haven't found it yet.
she is still shaking after all these years. i love this thang!
I knew id use it Somewhere, one day and this is somewhere one day. My new favorite quote!
lol haha I know right! I have a lot of that sort of stuff around here. Just like my Dad I can’t through away anything.
Wonderful job and all your great details. Best I’ve seen built.
thanks for the kind words. i sure have enjoyed this machine. it was a long time hit and miss project but well worth it and my only regret is not building it sooner.
Nice job! I hope you're travelling better now.
doing a bit better these days. lots to do around here preparing for winter. thanks for stopping by the channel.
Great video Dave. Looking at building a soil screener. Thanks for the idea.
I'm about to post an updated video. the soil sifter self destructed and I just finished a repair rebuild on it.
Thanks, Dave. Up here in the hills of N PA, we have a little bit of soil between our rocks, and I'm always scrounging for topsoil and fill dirt. Been ruminatin' on something like you built there for a while now, and need to get to it soon. Thanks for all the good, common sense tips! Great job!
thanks Dave. I have been very pleased with how well this machine has held up. even the wood with no paint on it stays out in the weather yet its holding up very well. I plan to shake some more stuff through it over the next couple of weeks. may make another video to show it in action. thanks for watching. let me know when you get yours running I would love to see it.
Great job! As I’m watching, I’m going thru my scrap inventory! Thanks for posting...I’ve been thru the cancer thing and advise you to just keep focused on the light at the end of the tunnel! Wishing you a continued recovery.
love using the scraps I have laying around. thanks for the encouragement and advice. you will enjoy having a super shaker soil sifter, this thing is cool!
I like the idler on the hinge pin. That's a smart idea.
thanks, I was excited about it. I wanted it to work that way but I was not sure exactly how to make it work. the duel v belt idler pulley did the trick.
I enjoy all your videos. Thanks!
glad you enjoy them its wonderful to hear from folks and I hope these will all some one with their projects.
Some folks get a degree in engineering and can't make a machine like that !!! Great project, thsnks for sharing.
thanks James, it was a fun project and a much needed project. I been very pleased with how well it works. took a while to gather up the parts but was well worth the effort.
Thanks for your detailed shaker build. I'm finishing up garage machine shop. A 5' shaker for 5' tractor bucket is on my list. One thing I'd do, build a dust and rain cover for engine.
yes the dust gets the motor really dirty. I was so worried it would over heat the motor with a dust / rain cover so I skipped that idea. I may revisit the idea not sure yet. its still working great
thats a brilliant idea !!!!! you just gave me my next project , I too found a dealership that sells side by sides and snowmobiles that comes in metal crates , I made 2 trips with my 20ft trailer built my wife a round pen, and built gates and still have enough for this
those crates are awesome! wish I had more of them. I may hit the bike shops and get a few crates from the side by sides thanks for the information.
Your my kind of builder. Great Job
its always an adventure around here, lol sometimes its a sometimes success!
Awesome job! Glad your feeling up for some tractor therapy!
me to, I miss being in the tractor seat actually doing something. I lasted about an hour and then I had to stop. I guess I need to take baby steps to work up to longer seat time.
Hi .
Love your inovation ...
If i understand correctly the idler pulley driving the screen pulley is actuall attached to the hinged rod ?
If so , how is it fastened to the rod and i imagine the hinged rod is turning also?
How is the hinged rod attached so it doesnt move out of the other hinged section?
And is the hinged rod fastened on pillow block bearings ?
Thanks
the idler pulley has a bearing so it turns on that bearing. the hinge rod does not turn its welded in place. I also welded a bolt on the end of the hinge rod that fits the idler pulley's bearing. I then used two flat washers one on each side of the idler pulley and then a nylon locking nut to keep the idler pulley from falling off. the idler pulley just spins free since its on nearly the exact same axes as the hinge rod the belts stay the same length no matter what angled position I set the vibrating platform on. this thing still works perfectly and I have sent a lot of rock and dirt through it.
Thanks for your video. It was helpful
glad it helped I really do enjoy this thing,
Great invention Dave. Better than some of the pricey shaker/sifters. Yep, I was wondering if you've been editing. I like that shaker. The only thing that kind of slows up the process is sorting out plastic but it's a whole lot better than sorting by hand. Pretty ingenious work and you used what you've got. Saw Daisy checking things out when you were making the video. Not much going on here either over the 4th, but every day I wake up is a blessing. Have a happy Independence Day.
thanks brother, I hope you have a great independence day as well. if not for folks like you that gave your all in service to this great nation we would not have our independence to celebrate. thanks a million!
I used valve springs from a car cylinder head . For my vibrating rod I stitch welded 3/16" square stock across the entire round bar to a couple of inches shy of the pillow blocks.Throws it out of balance just enough that I can turn engine RPMs down and helps keep the round stock from bending too much under a load. Hoping to up-grade to hydraulic drive along with creation of an elevator to feed it and another to move the dirt from under it to a pile as all 3 will be driven from same hydraulic pump with separate spools to each unit. Now to find the money!!!
yes ultimately the money has to be there! lol you sound like you have a solid plan I would love to see a video of this when its done or even as you are building it.
Really informative! Thinking of making some on a smaller scale to vibrate vegetables on a flat bed to help when cleaning them. Any ideas for that?
an electric vibrator may work well for that. they cost about the same as just a gas motor and would make building it much easier. here is one for pretty cheap on amazon www.amazon.com/Concrete-Vibrator-Vibration-Vibrating-Vibrators/dp/B076Q68HSW/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=vibrator+motor&qid=1571879270&sr=8-4
Nice Work, Dave! Your careful explaining will help me build my own. Great job!
thats what I wanted to hear! I looked at several videos with shakers and screeners but not one really showed how it was built. I hope this video helps a lot of people. thanks for watching and thanks for taking time to comment.
It looks like it works really well. I like that you used stuff that you had to make it. That is how most of my projects are. You should get a winch with a wireless remote and make it so you can change the angle of the sifter or to dump debris off of it from the seat of your tractor.
hey, I like that idea on the winch! it does seem to work really good. these rocks have been kicking my butt for the last few years.
Great work! This is by far the best design I've seen of all the home made sifters. I've been able to source most of the parts but can't find a double groove V-belt idler pulley. Where did you get yours from? Was it off a mower deck by chance or did you buy it new somewhere?
I bought it on ebay. its a Dayton double pulley here is a listing for one similar to mine may even be exact not sure.
www.ebay.com/itm/Drive-Belt-Idler-Pulley-Dayco-89056-/333149508673?hash=item4d91421441
I searched for automotive dual idler pully for V belt.
Please understand what you have built and done, that millions will never do. Not possible. Good work.
thank you for the kind words! I appreciate you stopping by my channel and watching my videos.
This is excellent , I’m looking for springs, got a part number?, never mind I missed it in the op questions thx
yes in deed I love this machine! makes some great sifted top soil.
daveknowshow Dave what angle did you end up setting the grate at? I’m building something similar and using 30 degree, what do you think
Hey Dave. I know this is an older video, but I pretty much watched the whole video to find out ... how you make it shake! Lol. I need to sift wood loam (lots of humus) to get as much topsoil out of it as I can. Got the whole thing pretty much figured out, pillow bearings and all (you’re two belt idler pulley system is a Huge improvement. It’s so typical of your kind of quirky genius). But I’m stuck at the ‘shaking’ part. Been thinking, some sort of cam? Or shuttle arrangement, or ... Stuck. How do you make it shake?
honestly it shook enough with nothing but the shaft spinning in the pillow block bearings. in this video there is no cam or out of balance weight. since this video I did take a chunk of steel that measured about 2.5 inches by 3.5 inches by 3/8 thick. bored a hole the same size as the spinning shaft and slid it on the end of the shaft opposite the motor. the hole that is bored is off center by 1/3 of the 3.5 measurement. this created a lot more shake. I run the motor at a relatively medium to low RPM. hope this helps. if you comment with your email address I can send you a picture.
GrEAT VIDEO. HOW DO YOU MAKE IT SHAKE DAVE. THAT THE ONLY PART I DONT GET
@@mikeclements847 if you email me at Daveknowshow@aol.com I can send you a photograph that will show what makes it shake. although as I stated in the above comment it shook fine before adding the counter weight to the spinning shaft.
@@daveknowshow Hello Dave, I'm a long fun of yours from California, I read your comment above and just wondering if you could send pics of the spinning rod on both ends with the additional 2.5 x 3.5 piece and the pulley side. would appreciate the pics send out to silentyr25@yahoo.com, again thanks in advance more power to you
@@trek4554 I would be happy to its dark outside right now but first thing in the morning I will shoot some images and send them your way!
Good stuff - thanks for sharing your sifter! I've got to get some river rock out of some soil I'm backfilling with and am thinking about using my trailer tailgate as a temporary solution.
it will work its a lot slower though. I have sifted lots of dirt using that method. took off the ramp and sit it on cinder blocks. if its real dry dirt it works faster.
Well done !
thank you for the kind words!
awesome I never knew that. I figured it had some sort of technical name. lol sure works good!
What makes it shake?I'm not seeing that.
of center small weight was added but honestly in this video I think it was just the shaft spinning that shook it. cant remember. anyhow after all these years of heavy use it finally self destructed three days ago. lol I'm doing the repairs now and may have a video to show the updated improvements.
you didnt show the vibrating shaft. did you well something to it to make it unbalanced to make it vibrate?
I thought I said in the video that I made a weight for it but decided it was not needed for this application. it seems to vibrate enough from the shaft just turning. I may put the out of balance weight on it when doing soil but with rocks I was afraid they would launch ten feet away from the machine and I wanted them to land close by.
14.56 minutes
Never discount the ingenuity of a man with a need and a low budget. Can you move it? Well done.
yes I move it with my front forks. works pretty good although I'm leaning towards building a three point hook up for it so I can move it from the rear of the tractor. its a little hard to see driving with it in front of the tractor.
as a welder and mfg for over 37 years I use coil springs out of the front end of old half ton trucks, they hold up very well and give the rack a good shaking witch you need when screening black top soil, , you should be loading from the low side not the high side as the rocks build up you can drive up the rock pile to get a much higher drop out of the bucket, you don't need a hinge of any kind on the screen frame, use 4 to 8 coil springs on the corners, 1 to 2 on each with a sett of cross bars with a heavy bolt on each end like a strut to keep it strait as it shakes, a solid hinge make it rigid and brakes up your frame even when you build it out of 4 x 6 tubing 3/8" wall, the legs where the screened material lands needs to be wider then any bucket that will be used so you can get the stuff out
truck springs were much to large. the hinge is not on the part that shakes. loading from the opposite side would surely get my hood and front end destroyed, my bucket it 5 foot wide and the base is 6 foot wide so i have plenty of room to get in and out. i know i cant screen mud threw it but so long as i dont just drop heavy loads of wet dirt all at once it should work fine. its never hard to over build something it takes skill to build it just strong enough and more skill to not abuse it to the point of destroying it. you have to know the limitations of your equipment. i can destroy and abuse just about any of the heaviest built equipment. thanks for the input.
i am just telling you I have made them for many years for small contractors, as a welder an mfg all my life
well I appreciate it but I tried using coil springs from a jeep. they were to big made the shaker part to high. I then looked at using the leaf springs from a jeep. still to high. these springs are low profile seem durable and vibrate very nicely. they are much like those used in commercial shaker tables in manufacturing plants. I like having the hinge so I can adjust the tilt angle of the main platform. the hinge is not connected to the vibrating part so it does not hinder the vibration at all. I dont think loading the shaker from the other side is a good idea at all. the debris and rocks coming off the screen would destroy the front of the tractor in no time at all. I'm thinking about adding a wash system to it next so I can wash the rock on the second pass threw the shaker. something simple, a few nozzles hooked to my power washer should do the trick. I'd love to see some videos of the ones you built or maybe you will do a video of the next one you build and show it in action. thanks again for the input.
I don't have any video of any of them that I made over the years, I just got into you tube vidios not long ago, but yes the next one I build ill do vidios of the build for the customer an show how it is used and run, no chance of hurting any tractor unless you were dumb enough to dump a 2 foot bolder on to, then possible something could happen, I know your hinge is not part of the shaker frame movement. thank you for not being one of the kind that do all snaky when you try to give them 37 years of mfg knowledge
every thing I know I taught myself or learned working beside seasoned craftsman in various trades. I often look for others advice or opinion on projects. in fact I researched youtube high and low about building this very shaker. every thing and and every one has room for improvement, adjustments and so on. I'm sure most people who spend countless hours researching a project and then countless more building the project do get a little upset when someone comes along after all their hard work and say " no this is all wrong you should have done it this way because I say so and because I have so many years doing xyz" . so try not to take offense when someone gets agitated over it. I'm sure if you spent the time on a project, and made a video of it and someone came along and told you it was all wrong, and the only way to do it correctly was their way, well you may get a bit agitated as well. there are many ways to skin a cat. as far as small rocks bouncing off the hood of a tractor causing damage, heck I was upset that my tractor got dusty and dirty. lol ha ha. most of the time people who post videos on youtube are looking for confirmation that they are doing something good and correctly. most folks dont post videos online to just have folks tell them what they did wrong. most folks have a wife that tells them what they did wrong plenty at home. ha ha lol I appreciate the in put.
Take all that shit off. Get a truck axle with the differential and rims. Weld a sprocket to the yolk. Hookup a motor and sprocket to turn the differential. Cut a piece of 4 inch pipe in half the longway. Cut the pipe in sections long enough to reach one edge of the rim to the other edge. Then you have half circles. Weld those to the rims that are on the axle (take the tires off) in a manner so when the wheels turn the half circles would make it hop up and down if it were rolling on the road. Mount a tire (on an axle) to the shaker deck. Mount everything on a manner so when the differential spins the rims with half circles on them, they turn the tire that is mounted to the deck and each time the half circles hit the tire they make it bounce up and down. Of course the deck is on springs. So every half circle spinning make the deck shake when they hit the tire on the deck. The faster the differential turns, the faster those rims will make that tire bounce around. Then you have heavy duty bearings meant for trucks and weather. They don't go bad for 10 years? No special parts needed, truck bearings, any size tire, and no belt. That would shake the hell out of the deck. None of that belt tensioner trying to keep the belt tight while the belt jumps around due to the deck shaking. All heavy duty weather resistant bearings.
sounds like a lot of trouble and a lot of added weight. as it is it works flawlessly and is relatively lighter in weight compared to truck differentials, chain drives, rims and tires. the way it is I can easily lift it and put it on a trailer to haul from job to job. your way sound extremely heavy and would likely make it jump around to much and destroy itself in short order. your way would also require a heavier built sifting platform because tis one would never hold up to that sort of abuse. these things are by design self destructive so building them in a fashion where cost and weight is kept low is very important. with that said I would love to se you build your design and make a video showing that design. send me a link to the video or the video itself and I will gladly share your design or link to your video at the end of this video. thanks for the comment. I will wait to see your design in action. please keep in touch on the progress.
@@daveknowshow True. I came up with the idea pondering gold mining equipment that handle rocks. I see those belts slappin and bearings go bad. I'm thinkin put a heavy duty axle and wheel on there it won't fail. It'll hold up to weather too. Yea I'm not thinkin light soil. I'm thinkin at minimum a yard of bigger rocks and dirt. I saw a trommel built with a truck axle. I laughed and thought it was the most brilliant thing, cheap too. Damn a 10,000 dollar custom sprocket and 5 thousand dollar chain. Truck axle with tires and that drum will spin.
The springs are Highly secret. I know what they are called but I am going to need a 10,000 dollar pay out to reveal the name of them. The other soil sifter manufacturers will retailiate when I reveal the secret.
yeah seems that way these springs I used from the hardware section in lowes are for hanging porch swings from they work really well. I dont remember the item number but it may be listed in one of the comments or description. I did add two more and I may add two more. the machine still runs great and does a great job. thanks for watching
Awfully high rpm's on the tractor for the work load!...you trying to wear it out?...increse the screen angle for more efficiency...
increasing the angle merely makes the product move off the screen faster and not sift as thoroughly as it does at this angle . this angle seemed to be perfect for the material at hand. tractor RPM was set at 540 pto speed which is less than the rated RPM of the engine which the tractors performance is rated it. so my RPM is set lower than the rated RPM by the manufacturer for top performance and clean economical burn of fuel as well as RPM of the hydraulic pump to maintain proper flow rates and pressure.
Better known as a vibrating side-hill screen.
is that what its called? I never knew that. thanks for the update.
(8:17) "Sole Sifter"... gawd. The word soil is pronounced "soy-ul", red state. "soy-ul". ..yeesh.
yes it was a funny joke between a subscriber and myself and the play on words was " soul sister " verses " soil sifter " sorry you failed to get the funny play on words. also you might be interested to know that I have a handicap and a slight speech impediment which may result in words not being pronounced correctly. I have a 7th grade education due to reasons beyond my control but I still do the best I can to provide youtube content for people like you that enjoy bullying and ridiculing me for every little mistake in grammar I make. enjoy your day and may the Lord truly bless you with compassion.
I dislike Lothian's rude comment. But I really enjoyed your video! I'm going to build a version of this. Thank you sir.
@@kyleoglee you will enjoy having it. I done sent a pile of rocks and dirt through this machine and its holding up remarkably well. I love this thing and so glad I finally finished it. its not something I use every day but when I need it man does it do a nice job!
To tall for the tractor!
not really but it is pressing the limit. I wanted it as tall as it could be to get more angles of adjustment and not have to empty the screened compartment as often. as it is I can run a lot of material through it before it reaches a point that I must start removing the screened material to make more room. the screened material is what helps stabilize the machine in place and not move due to the vibration of the machine. yes it vibrates that much that it moves when the area around the machine is empty.