Im right there with you , I would love to have this one the only problem that I can see for me is that it looks like it would a chore getting in and out just like a sports car.
Delay comment. This makes flying Giros so relaxing . Call it a sofa but not jitterbugs like a chopper. One time in UK Giros where regarded as deathtraps. Giropeople are tenacious !. We have machines now as this one. 20 lbs, enough chocolate to feed the lady in the Loch. Thanks playmates. Dave
Thanks for doing this interview and video. If you can get back to them when the blades are put on, I think you would enjoy an intro flight. From other videos, they are extremely stable. Thanks again. All the best, Hal
Well it's a good thing I coined my gyro WOLVERINE and not AirWolf........although I am a big fan and it was the motivation for me to fly rotorcraft in the first place ! Nice coverage of gyroplanes....keep em coming!!
I love the delay reaction. That inertia makes it more relaxed not having an over sensitive mashine. Mightvbe a good start for beginners. Ascending and descending just with throttle is also interesting way to navigate height. I like the autopilot option for long distances.
Take a look at the Argon GTL Triple. it basically this same aircraft, but you put one pilot in the center of the front, and have a backseat on each side
Surprisingly enough, it's under $200k. I had no frame of reference for what a gyrocopter cost as I didn't even know they were still a thing so i could be ignorant, but $130k-200k seems pretty reasonable.
"You had me at, Hello!" It's a beautiful aircraft! I would have liked to have heard more performance info, like VNE, Cruise speed, ceiling, is it a pressurized cabin etc.... really enjoyed your presentation and perhaps a demo flight where you bring us along would really be cool!
They can't give you a proper VNE they need to guess high speeds are dangerous in gyros as you run the risk of unloading the rotor. I know blokes even in Direct drive Bensens to do 100mph open frame. These may be able to do more being streamlined but the main issue is how shallow the disk is. My old VW bensen I had to 80mph easily but chose to fly at 60mph. I'd imagine these would sit happily at 100mph safely. Still a lot of money. These fancy gyros are massively overweight IMO it's not unusual for these to weight 300kg+ empty weight. By comparison the Wallis gyro 116 was 116kg. And would outperform this in every respect. Massively overweight.
Definitely not pressurized. Gyros like helicopters don't get any speed advantage by going up that high, so they don't do it. Altitude records in gyros have been set high enough to need oxygen, so they can go over 12000 feet, but again there's no operational need to do it All rotocraft are speed limited by retreating blade stall, where as the blades rotate, the blade on the side that is turning with the wind begins to approach it's stall speed, as it's relative speed through the air falls. As mentioned in the other comment, gyros with flexible blades are at great risk going over 100 knots from rotor unloading leading to blade flapping and rotor strike and destruction on the airframe. Very expensive and experimental rotorcraft can slow the rotor with increasing airspeed to avoid this phenomenon, but that's way above the level of general aviation gyros.
I like the simplicity of gyro craft but, I want very short takeoffs, has contra rotating main rotors ever been tried, yes I get the air flow theory but, what if the lower rotor disc was shorter then the upper. Would this produce the lift for say a jump start angle of take off ?
You clearly asked the company rep. what the V-speeds are, and he did not answer you. He told you what the take off distances will be, on a calm day, versus a windy day. Is there a language barrier? Didn't he understand your question? What's the cruise speed, and Vne?
he asked about rotation speed, which doesn't really apply to gyros, they take off a bit different, and he did explain that. To your question, autorotation is kinda high drag, so they aren't speed demons, most gyros top out somewhere between 100-120 indicated.
hi......is a modern gyroplane in its landing-and take off equal then a pushlpane ? they can do as well 200kmh in speed and have the safest emergen-landing , right ? hope to read you commend....
Tks for uploading ... good luck to have big success in USA. I think it should be enough space for this little giro to set up a 3 seater like a McLaren F1 (street version) ? 6 hours flight time.... what is the max range ? Do already exist the certificate for EU? Hreetings from Netherlands/Cpt. JayR
@@snow_tacknives2024 yes, it's always already in autorotation, but now put that emergency over forest, mountain, or water. It's a bad place for the switch.
@@ericankney5957 Why is it bad place for switch? You can literally add a front latch or perhaps it has a locking latch on the front. I don't think there's any worries of engineering a locking latch in front of the glove box. You worried about James Bond flipping the master switch, or perhaps your 6 yr. old playing around in the back sea. lol! If you got that shady of folks in back seats you didn't vet them before allowing them in your aircraft , I got news flash for you them flipping that switch off is the least of your worries.
So this can have 4 passengers no? 1550 load capacity and a large tank of almost 6h flight time only missing 2 seats and seat belts. Or I am missing something?
Qual valor desse equipamento de asa giratória onde comprar qual velocidade de cruzeiro é distância ponto a ao b exemplo q podemos navegar. Tenho interesse.
They'll auto rotate to the ground with no engine power and you can control that landing and descent, also within 10 years several companies are designing these with additional lower wings to take up to 30- 40% of the lift energy off the rotor blade during flight. Remember your rotor blades are essentially a spinning wing under aero-dynamic lift just like a fixed wing aircraft. I love the additional wing designed ones that are coming soon. With the added lower wing version that are coming the gyrocopter will be safer and more energy efficient. These newer ones that are coming look like little fighter jets with the rotor blade on top, who ever owns this company needs a better pilot and PR man, this gentleman doesn't seem competent enough to me, his instructions were not informative enough. In my opinion anytime you give flight algorithm instructions, do it like you're training someone in an emergency who is in the plane and needs to land then taking off procedures by the numbers. I'm not a pilot myself but I am a retired professional firefighter/emt trained to operate fire engines and trucks in emergencies. If I was a pilot I would train person for emergency situations first then normal flight conditions.
@@snow_tacknives2024 I will not fly in a helicopter or gyrocopter because of the possibility of rotor failure, a pre-existing crack in the rotor. Helicopter rotor bearing failures can occur due to a number of reasons, including: Environmental degradation Grease degradation can cause pitting on bearing balls, which leads to inefficient lubrication and higher temperatures. This can cause the cage material to smear on the bearing balls, eventually leading to failure. Fabric liner damage Severe damage to the fabric liner of a joint bearing can cause it to wear out. This can include fracturing and tearing of the fibers. Electrical discharge A rolling element bearing in a helicopter turbine engine can fail due to electrical discharge damage. This can occur when the engine's components are not rotating. Improper installation If the outer teeter bearings are not installed properly, they can disband from their fork seats. This can cause increased vibration, which can lead to the outer teeter bolt fracturing. Seized forward fan shaft bearing A seized forward fan shaft bearing can cause a combination of heat and torque, which can lead to the failure of the tail rotor driveshaft. If a helicopter's tail rotor stops, the main rotor will continue to spin and the helicopter will crash. I will only fly in a fixed wing aircraft or possibly a multi-propeller redundant drone-like flying vehicle. ✌
Can anyone answer why gyrocopters and auto-gyros only have two blades, and not three or four? If you damage a blade, you can at least auto-rotate down to safety, if you have three or four blades. You cannot auto-rotate on only a single blade. I hope there is an emergency parachute installed, like some light aircraft have.
i wish experimental planes start using drive by wire technology. get all those cables and pedals out of the way. put a screen in the middle with google maps. i click on it, say go. and everything is handle by a computer. we have the technology.
Weight, sure. HP, sure. Why not address it as a potential development target? I think I saw one currently available with room for 4 or Pilot + passenger + rescue litter. Imagine how useful that would be for access into the hurricane/disaster areas and more practically as an enticing feature for an owner. A robust 4 seater opens a lot of doors and potential markets including short run shuttle service.
nice gyro, hope they dont go broke, there is a market for a cargo gyro, 1/3 the cost of a helicopter, can land anywhere, and unlike fixed wing aircraft, can land and take off in very high winds, when they they finally that niche out, they'll have success, I think they need to be able to take the payload of the original uh1 helicopter, pilot, co pilot, patient, nurse, RT and doc, stretcher and medical gear, plus 2hrs fuel, that's about a 2000 lbs in net load plus 450 lbs of fuel for a typical load of 25000-3000 max loud, design that, and your have a winner...your could serve every pacific island as a medivac.
Y2K my Air Command ( home made) with enclosure,” wind shield fairing. $6,000. Make 70 mph , 5 gal / hr. flying hard. Hot,, to much fun!! Flew in the v with Canada Geese, diving on corn fields at 100 + mph
Perhaps with the raising of the weight to Light Sport Aircraft we can get away from the almost total monopoly which Rotax has a strangle hold on the buying public. To compound the problem, designers are designing for the Rotax and thus there is really no choice. 1/3 for the engine,1/3 for the not needed glass panel and 1/3 for the fuselage. Cha Ching minimum cost $150K. Gone are days where garage builders and EAA boys dreamed and popped rivets.
Polish Aircraft? At least it isn't Chinese. lol I wouldn't worry to much about Polish ircraft. They have pretty good manufacturing in Poland. Though I'd still feel better if it were French. Er, I mean German. lol (you don't see to many people proud to drive their French car. I don't know if the is the base measurement for ana irplane, but a country that makes good cars I would think they could make good cars too.) lol
That's one of the best-looking gyros i think I've seen.
This is the gyro every gyo wants to be, comfortable, goodlooking, luggage area. Seriously sweet.
This is the first time I found myself wanting an auto-gyro.
It looks AWESOME!
Right? How cool is this thing! Thanks for taking the time to watch here today!
Im right there with you , I would love to have this one the only problem that I can see for me is that it looks like it would a chore getting in and out just like a sports car.
Never too late!?! there is a thing called ..." Financing." What? The wife bitched when you bought the motorcycle...and that turned out...o.k.?
Delay comment. This makes flying Giros so relaxing . Call it a sofa but not jitterbugs like a chopper. One time in UK Giros where regarded as deathtraps. Giropeople are tenacious !. We have machines now as this one. 20 lbs, enough chocolate to feed the lady in the Loch. Thanks playmates. Dave
Most practical gyroplane I have ever seen.
Thanks for doing this interview and video. If you can get back to them when the blades are put on, I think you would enjoy an intro flight. From other videos, they are extremely stable. Thanks again. All the best, Hal
Well it's a good thing I coined my gyro WOLVERINE and not AirWolf........although I am a big fan and it was the motivation for me to fly rotorcraft in the first place ! Nice coverage of gyroplanes....keep em coming!!
It has a look of the "Huey" about it and that makes it an iconic design! The proportions are perfect!
I once flew a gyro like this. It can be controlled like an airplane. Interesting device.
Gyroplanes are amazing 👏😃
I love the delay reaction. That inertia makes it more relaxed not having an over sensitive mashine. Mightvbe a good start for beginners. Ascending and descending just with throttle is also interesting way to navigate height. I like the autopilot option for long distances.
I like the imagery of chasing my plane
3 cheers for Polish engineering!
This craft is impressive.
How do you know? It's never shown flying!
And expensive
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I really like the extra room in the cockpit.
Thanks for this episode. You have my permission to do more gyro content, please.
Check out @AdventureAir on TH-cam.
@@JeremyBechtold Thanks 👍
…Argon Ramjet Rotorcraft…that sounds gooood!
Amazing wow I'm in line👏👍
Best cabin autogyro by far.. best wishes..
Nice video Bryan. Snazzy looking gyro…come a long way from the Mad Max gyro days.
Nice looking Gyrocopter. thanks
Seems like a lot of extra space for only 20 pounds of luggage. Looks really nice though.
Plenty of room for a massive GARMIN in the center I ( liberated) from Mike Paties dumpster.
The Polish engineers are very clever and creative.
Beautiful little aircraft, Honestly this would be the perfect little aircraft for regional flights without breaking the bank
they got me on the cup holders lol
Excellent stuff bro
Nice curves on the Argon. 👏
That payload though. 20lbs you say?! That’s amazing. What is that 4 toothbrushes?…..
Nice machine, only thing I can see would be nice is a quick detach at the strap anchor to get the tail away from the pedals at 9:32
I'm, curious if the doors come off for flight? If so then that would be a great way to rid the ranch of predators!
Since they hover like a brick, I tend to agree.
Take a look at the Argon GTL Triple. it basically this same aircraft, but you put one pilot in the center of the front, and have a backseat on each side
What about HVA& retracts?
I like the side b side option 4the Mrs.
AWESOME!
It is beautiful.
Not an an option for me but it is cool things like this exist.
Dope
Very nice design. Batman would have wanted one.
very good
Lovely.
That is the one I want.
Could have sworn this was a xenon gyroplane lol.
Like cars i guess, they're starting to look a like now haha.
Great video btw
Awesome
Perfection
How much? Do you think they will have a 4 seater for 4 people soon ?
Thanks for coming by X59
That is one beautiful gyro plane. I’m sure it’s expensive but if I had it the $$ I’d buy one. More gyro’s please.
Surprisingly enough, it's under $200k. I had no frame of reference for what a gyrocopter cost as I didn't even know they were still a thing so i could be ignorant, but $130k-200k seems pretty reasonable.
@@SweetLou0523 you can buy them as low as 40-50k so that does feel pretty pricey but it does seem to be a "Deluxe" sort of model
"You had me at, Hello!" It's a beautiful aircraft! I would have liked to have heard more performance info, like VNE, Cruise speed, ceiling, is it a pressurized cabin etc.... really enjoyed your presentation and perhaps a demo flight where you bring us along would really be cool!
They can't give you a proper VNE they need to guess high speeds are dangerous in gyros as you run the risk of unloading the rotor. I know blokes even in Direct drive Bensens to do 100mph open frame. These may be able to do more being streamlined but the main issue is how shallow the disk is. My old VW bensen I had to 80mph easily but chose to fly at 60mph. I'd imagine these would sit happily at 100mph safely. Still a lot of money. These fancy gyros are massively overweight IMO it's not unusual for these to weight 300kg+ empty weight. By comparison the Wallis gyro 116 was 116kg. And would outperform this in every respect. Massively overweight.
@@cameronlapworth2284 thanks man.
@@waynegilchrist1596 no worries.
Definitely not pressurized. Gyros like helicopters don't get any speed advantage by going up that high, so they don't do it. Altitude records in gyros have been set high enough to need oxygen, so they can go over 12000 feet, but again there's no operational need to do it
All rotocraft are speed limited by retreating blade stall, where as the blades rotate, the blade on the side that is turning with the wind begins to approach it's stall speed, as it's relative speed through the air falls. As mentioned in the other comment, gyros with flexible blades are at great risk going over 100 knots from rotor unloading leading to blade flapping and rotor strike and destruction on the airframe.
Very expensive and experimental rotorcraft can slow the rotor with increasing airspeed to avoid this phenomenon, but that's way above the level of general aviation gyros.
Great job
Sweet. I want one.
I like the simplicity of gyro craft but, I want very short takeoffs, has contra rotating main rotors ever been tried, yes I get the air flow theory but, what if the lower rotor disc was shorter then the upper. Would this produce the lift for say a jump start angle of take off ?
I'm not a rocket surgeon, but that sounds like a setup for catastrophic blade flapping.
Do you have to sing the theme song to get it running?
01/08/25 - what about gyros that can carry more than two people.... like maybe 4?
You clearly asked the company rep. what the V-speeds are, and he did not answer you. He told you what the take off distances will be, on a calm day, versus a windy day. Is there a language barrier? Didn't he understand your question? What's the cruise speed, and Vne?
he asked about rotation speed, which doesn't really apply to gyros, they take off a bit different, and he did explain that. To your question, autorotation is kinda high drag, so they aren't speed demons, most gyros top out somewhere between 100-120 indicated.
hi......is a modern gyroplane in its landing-and take off equal then a pushlpane ? they can do as well 200kmh in speed and have the safest emergen-landing , right ? hope to read you commend....
how about regarding the TC? has the Polandia CAA issued TC?
Tks for uploading ... good luck to have big success in USA. I think it should be enough space for this little giro to set up a 3 seater like a McLaren F1 (street version) ? 6 hours flight time.... what is the max range ? Do already exist the certificate for EU? Hreetings from Netherlands/Cpt. JayR
The master key inside the glove box is an accident waiting to happen.
Especially in the 'Triple' configuration, that switch is behind the pilot, and right between your passengers.
Why? You can auto gyration to the ground with no power to the rotors.
@@snow_tacknives2024 yes, it's always already in autorotation, but now put that emergency over forest, mountain, or water. It's a bad place for the switch.
@@ericankney5957 Why is it bad place for switch? You can literally add a front latch or perhaps it has a locking latch on the front. I don't think there's any worries of engineering a locking latch in front of the glove box. You worried about James Bond flipping the master switch, or perhaps your 6 yr. old playing around in the back sea. lol! If you got that shady of folks in back seats you didn't vet them before allowing them in your aircraft , I got news flash for you them flipping that switch off is the least of your worries.
The air will separate at the back , it needs a prop extension and redesigned rear end.
So flight training can be done in an Experimental category? I always thought it had to be in a certificated a/c.
amazing. what is the price^?
Cruise speed is 112mph.
Yes it c fssy enoughh
Mini skycrane 😉
So this can have 4 passengers no? 1550 load capacity and a large tank of almost 6h flight time only missing 2 seats and seat belts. Or I am missing something?
instead of all that fuel weight and baggage weight, why not add one or two extra seats??
There is a 'triple' configuration of this ship, one pilot on center, 2 passengers in the 'back'
You asked him max cruise and never exceed speed but he didn't answer. I found specs: smooth air cruise is 94 kts, vne is 113 kts.
I sat through this entire thing waiting for cruise speed. Why would they not tell us that?
after watching through, I came to the comments for that. And here I am.
Cruise speed is 112mph. Google took 2 seconds....
112mph
People EDIT videos
@@ianmangham4570 well, no wonder they don’t say. That’s a deal breaker.
Cruise speed?
112
I want it.
I wonder where he teaches at ? Poland ?
If you pilot this from the left seat does that mean you have to fly it left handed? I don't see a throttle on the left side like many side by sides.
can it do jump takeoff?
is it suitable for mountainous terrain with short runways ?
Yes it is
Now I want to get my avatar license
Qual valor desse equipamento de asa giratória onde comprar qual velocidade de cruzeiro é distância ponto a ao b exemplo q podemos navegar. Tenho interesse.
Nice vid. 😎. Nice product. Good questioning. 🤔👏✨
What airport is that?
How we can talk to them?
I know nothing about gyroplanes, but it looks like every landing is an autorotation. :o
Honestly most helicopter landings are essentially auto rotations too.
The entire flight is an autorotation, that's why they call em autogyros.
2:53 M'kay
Ok,I will take 4 of them if I can get parts.
Gyrocopters are great, no doubt, I love them, but I'm afraid of rotor failure. If I owned a gyrocopter I would add two ballistic parachutes.
They'll auto rotate to the ground with no engine power and you can control that landing and descent, also within 10 years several companies are designing these with additional lower wings to take up to 30- 40% of the lift energy off the rotor blade during flight. Remember your rotor blades are essentially a spinning wing under aero-dynamic lift just like a fixed wing aircraft. I love the additional wing designed ones that are coming soon. With the added lower wing version that are coming the gyrocopter will be safer and more energy efficient. These newer ones that are coming look like little fighter jets with the rotor blade on top, who ever owns this company needs a better pilot and PR man, this gentleman doesn't seem competent enough to me, his instructions were not informative enough. In my opinion anytime you give flight algorithm instructions, do it like you're training someone in an emergency who is in the plane and needs to land then taking off procedures by the numbers. I'm not a pilot myself but I am a retired professional firefighter/emt trained to operate fire engines and trucks in emergencies. If I was a pilot I would train person for emergency situations first then normal flight conditions.
@@snow_tacknives2024 I will not fly in a helicopter or gyrocopter because of the possibility of rotor failure, a pre-existing crack in the rotor. Helicopter rotor bearing failures can occur due to a number of reasons, including:
Environmental degradation
Grease degradation can cause pitting on bearing balls, which leads to inefficient lubrication and higher temperatures. This can cause the cage material to smear on the bearing balls, eventually leading to failure.
Fabric liner damage
Severe damage to the fabric liner of a joint bearing can cause it to wear out. This can include fracturing and tearing of the fibers.
Electrical discharge
A rolling element bearing in a helicopter turbine engine can fail due to electrical discharge damage. This can occur when the engine's components are not rotating.
Improper installation
If the outer teeter bearings are not installed properly, they can disband from their fork seats. This can cause increased vibration, which can lead to the outer teeter bolt fracturing.
Seized forward fan shaft bearing
A seized forward fan shaft bearing can cause a combination of heat and torque, which can lead to the failure of the tail rotor driveshaft.
If a helicopter's tail rotor stops, the main rotor will continue to spin and the helicopter will crash.
I will only fly in a fixed wing aircraft or possibly a multi-propeller redundant drone-like flying vehicle. ✌
Can anyone answer why gyrocopters and auto-gyros only have two blades, and not three or four? If you damage a blade, you can at least auto-rotate down to safety, if you have three or four blades. You cannot auto-rotate on only a single blade. I hope there is an emergency parachute installed, like some light aircraft have.
i wish experimental planes start using drive by wire technology. get all those cables and pedals out of the way. put a screen in the middle with google maps. i click on it, say go. and everything is handle by a computer. we have the technology.
1000Km (621 mile)range with external fuel tanks? Does this require any sort of FAA license, rating or certification to fly?
Yes
Thank you for great video showing our rotorcraft, we would like invited to our official TH-cam channel
I like that blue nose.
Me as well
Thanks James!
Why is not a four seat?
That Rotax powerplant only produces 141hp.
Weight...
Weight, sure. HP, sure. Why not address it as a potential development target?
I think I saw one currently available with room for 4 or Pilot + passenger + rescue litter. Imagine how useful that would be for access into the hurricane/disaster areas and more practically as an enticing feature for an owner. A robust 4 seater opens a lot of doors and potential markets including short run shuttle service.
i want to purchase
nice gyro, hope they dont go broke, there is a market for a cargo gyro, 1/3 the cost of a helicopter, can land anywhere, and unlike fixed wing aircraft, can land and take off in very high winds, when they they finally that niche out, they'll have success, I think they need to be able to take the payload of the original uh1 helicopter, pilot, co pilot, patient, nurse, RT and doc, stretcher and medical gear, plus 2hrs fuel, that's about a 2000 lbs in net load plus 450 lbs of fuel for a typical load of 25000-3000 max loud, design that, and your have a winner...your could serve every pacific island as a medivac.
At that size and weight, you'd need a full runway
Ps.: or better to save money editing is the best option!!!
Why so many accidents?
Price?
literally discussed in the video
The only bummer about these is the useful load is super low. Its really only a 2 person and maybe two kids. Forget two well fed adults and fuel.
The US-version needs no rotor 🙈
They have enough hot air? Lol
Doesn't it fly?
Starting at 130k and 165k to 200k for the one in the demo... is simply too expensive, I can say they're selling it double the price it costs.
I completely agree. Someone’s gonna come along and smoke these guys. Th3 polish aren’t known for their brains.
Y2K my Air Command ( home made) with enclosure,” wind shield fairing. $6,000.
Make 70 mph , 5 gal / hr. flying hard. Hot,, to much fun!!
Flew in the v with Canada Geese, diving on corn fields at 100 + mph
Easily, but they probably don’t sell many. Unless they’re like Ferrari spaceships, I’ll wait till these things get cheaper.
Wring goid o ice tage
I am no aviation guy but I think Bush planes make better sense than gyrocopters.
Perhaps with the raising of the weight to Light Sport Aircraft we can get away from the almost total monopoly which Rotax has a strangle hold on the buying public. To compound the problem, designers are designing for the Rotax and thus there is really no choice. 1/3 for the engine,1/3 for the not needed glass panel and 1/3 for the fuselage. Cha Ching minimum cost $150K. Gone are days where garage builders and EAA boys dreamed and popped rivets.
Dear Santa .. I know it's early .. but
363 Tremblay Motorway
Does the auto-pilot flying itself from point A to point B? if yes that would be nice, and I'm sure a lot people would want it.
Polish Aircraft? At least it isn't Chinese. lol I wouldn't worry to much about Polish ircraft. They have pretty good manufacturing in Poland. Though I'd still feel better if it were French. Er, I mean German. lol (you don't see to many people proud to drive their French car. I don't know if the is the base measurement for ana irplane, but a country that makes good cars I would think they could make good cars too.) lol