Medieval vs Renaissance - Italian Longsword Sparring

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  • @FedericoMalagutti
    @FedericoMalagutti  3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Mad-rico is back, ready to bring honor to short Feders.

  • @v_fencer
    @v_fencer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As someone who mainly practiced Meyer, trained with Marozzo's primo assaulto and read Fiore's treatise, this was a fascinating feast! Also, mad respect for sparring outside in full gear during this hot summer day...Cant imagine doing this at all.

  • @arpioisme
    @arpioisme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nicollo plays out provocations directly from the assaults. I got several "a ha!" Moment. This is enjoyable

  • @temujin5743
    @temujin5743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It started like samuraï fight in the old movies!😂

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ahahahahahah

    • @antoinepichon1426
      @antoinepichon1426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Federico Kurosawa

    • @IaMaPh1991
      @IaMaPh1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      All it needs is some ludicrous blood spray effect after that first hit 😚👌

    • @flavioaleph
      @flavioaleph 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Minute 11 the answer is actually taught in aikido sword lessons.
      Best sparring ever!

  • @jasonjames9836
    @jasonjames9836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loved that hit you landed around 14:20 - quick little back-edge beat for displacement and cut back while your opponent is still pressing forward.

  • @andyedwards9222
    @andyedwards9222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A gorgeous video, both the background and the sparring.

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you!

    • @ErickeTR
      @ErickeTR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The backgrounds in Federico's videos are always beautiful and bucolic. It's like imagining a duel scene from a book.

  • @historyandsabre
    @historyandsabre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh man, I loved this Federico! The tactical nature of the session really shows in the video. Good stuff!

  • @alexhunt7810
    @alexhunt7810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really nice to see some Marozzo, and some excellent lessons on counterfencing

  • @corrugatedcavalier5266
    @corrugatedcavalier5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    0:53-0:59 Just both standing there, completely in measure for 6 seconds, you having a bit of an overbind... Great video all around!

  • @nuancedhistory
    @nuancedhistory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Damn and here I am continuing to suck at Bolognese Longsword.

  • @jaytech4082
    @jaytech4082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome sparring, loved to watch you test each other, way more exciting than most competitions.
    Great quality of fencing and video😊.
    This was great to watch and to learn. Thank you🤟👌

  • @mikevandenbergh6736
    @mikevandenbergh6736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is of the most interesting sparring sessions I’ve seen! Always love to see a Vadi-esque approach. Love it, thank you!
    I need to get a short feder- that thing looks hella fun.

  • @Vindrows
    @Vindrows 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the most entertaining sparring of the channel, so far.
    Never seen before reinassence longsword pratictioners, I think. So I don't know if it depends on pratictioner or manuscript, but the pacing seems totally different from the medieval one. Am I in error?

  • @stephan-schildwachepotsdam1171
    @stephan-schildwachepotsdam1171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Super relaxing to watch 😊

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you! That's how it looked to me while watching it at home, so I decided to keep it entire, without almost any cut.

    • @Cleanpea
      @Cleanpea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FedericoMalagutti What do you mean, there were so many cuts!

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Cleanpea ahahahahah!!! ;-)

  • @peroniop
    @peroniop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bellissima location, atmosfera rilassata e musica dolce, questo è l'ASMR dello schermidore. Non conoscendo i manuali credo di non essere in grado di gustarmi questo combattimento come si deve, ma sembra essere molto ragionato.

  • @Pedroelesgrimistalibre
    @Pedroelesgrimistalibre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was a cool sparring 👍

  • @mushus001
    @mushus001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Très beau sparring !
    Les postures, les gardes et les assauts lancés à partir des différentes gardes sont très intéressantes.
    Lors des poses statiques ont vous prendrait pour des gravures 😁
    Bonne continuation vous êtes un régal pour un pratiquant comme moi.

  • @palestrapedromonte
    @palestrapedromonte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you very much for sharing your experiences.
    I wanted to ask you if the combat is carried out in the same line to facilitate the recording of it or on the contrary, if there was no camera, would you move more laterally or in circles.

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well it depends from the circumstances. Generally speaking, the only side movement which is influential in terms of tactic is the movement on which you land the attack on target. Because otherwise the opponent can simply walk around with you.
      So yeah, I move around (you can find some clip on my instagram) but generally most of the times it happens while landing the action.

    • @b.h.abbott-motley2427
      @b.h.abbott-motley2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As someone who's mainly studied & practiced George Silver's system, the lack of circular movement (& movement in general) stood out to me. Silver recommended continual motion in all directions to avoid being a "certain mark" to your opponent. I guess other styles take a more economical approach to movement.

  • @IaMaPh1991
    @IaMaPh1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    13:10
    DAMN that was nice 👍

    • @alpenjon
      @alpenjon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, this made me wonder why he almost never went for a thrust before?

  • @JackY-pu5nh
    @JackY-pu5nh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it.

  • @kyledaly9621
    @kyledaly9621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Of all the styles of longsword I've seen, I have seen the least of renaissance Italian longsword. Are there any fighting manuals anyone could point out to me so I could learn more about it? It is very interesting to see.

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The main source is Achille Marozzo, Filippo Vadi is another source while being some kind of hybrid between medieval and Renaissance it tastes of Renaissance

    • @kyledaly9621
      @kyledaly9621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FedericoMalagutti Thank you! I'll look into it for sure.

    • @nuancedhistory
      @nuancedhistory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bolognese is well known as the least popular fencing school, but also one of the best preserved. The Bolognese tradition is characterized by the work of Marozzo, Dall'Aggocchie, Manciolino, and the De Anonimo Bolognese, plus Viganti. It goes back to Filippo Dardi who probably started his school in ~1414, and the Bolognese tradition is actually well known to hold over a lot of medieval traditions and techniques from the 15th century.

    • @arpioisme
      @arpioisme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nuancedhistory yeah.. everything you said is true. Bolognese fencers also have the best discussion group in the whole HEMA facebook: Giovanni Dall'Agocchie
      Also about viggiani, some does not consider viggiani as a true bolognese-styled fencing master, but i certainly do.

    • @nuancedhistory
      @nuancedhistory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arpioisme I'm with my instructor, in that Viggiani (got his and Giganti's name mixed up lol) was basically a guy who took the 6 week crash course they gave to people who made the mistake of challenging someone to a duel, and then went off to Venice and was like "yeah well this is what I think of your fencing."

  • @TheNapkuchen
    @TheNapkuchen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!

  • @jamiejames416
    @jamiejames416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you know any grappling techniques?

  • @carloparisi9945
    @carloparisi9945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ciao Federico, dalla prospettiva dello spettatore, sembra che a volte ingaggiate dalla stretta misura, è una scelta tattica o una regola?

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Io cerco di entrare sotto misura perché ho la spada più corta. Comunque da come l’ho “vissuta” sul momento non mi sembrava di essere troppo sotto, poi magari si!

    • @carloparisi9945
      @carloparisi9945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FedericoMalagutti intendo stretta misura come "al di sotto della misura d'allungo", non è troppo stretta, semplicemente non serve l'affondo

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carloparisi9945 capisco bene cosa intendi ma ti posso assicurare che se non avessi avuto bisogno di muovere i piedi per colpirlo lo avrei colpito ^^
      Se ti riferisci alle prime azioni, la prospettiva della telecamera immagino possa falsare le distanze. Ma anche tenendo la mano destra adesca al corpo, incrociando in punta, saremmo a 105 + 94 cm di distanza circa. Che è la misura delle lame.

    • @carloparisi9945
      @carloparisi9945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FedericoMalagutti ho fatto bene a scrivere "sembra" allora, invece di "è" :)

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carloparisi9945 eheh ^^

  • @jeremywatson9129
    @jeremywatson9129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you still using the Ensifer Krona? TH-cam likes to censor the C-word

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @jeremywatson9129
      @jeremywatson9129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FedericoMalagutti nice I ordered one a couple weeks ago just waiting for it to come in.

  • @StarBoundFables
    @StarBoundFables ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great to watch! But, it seemed like your partner landed many flats & was hesitant to call "good" on your landed strikes

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah! This is something I noticed when I traveled outside of Italy. In many other countries there is a lot of "Good" or "nice" when the opponent does something good. Here is quite rare, and sometimes non existent. We generally swear a little when we get hit and that's hit! Hehe!
      So it's not him being not polite, is our average HEMA culture in Italy ;-)