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The PERFECT wet Tire? - Maxxis Forekaster - Quick Check vs Rekon Race
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2020
- The last #MAXXIS tire in this mini series is the #Forekaster #Tire. Recommended as an aggressive XC tire, or for wet conditions. Quick check next to Rekon Race reviewed recently.
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wish all tyre reviews were like this. mentioning the approximate tread depth 👍
I also have this tire on my bike and it is really the best xc tire i have ever used and i think it is the best wet tire for me
I have bought a Forekaster to use in the back of my XC full suspended bike. At the moment I am using an Ardent 29x2.25 front and an Ikon 29x2.20 back. I am gonna replace the Ikon with the Forekaster 29x2.20 because I am searching for something more grippy on mud/loose over hard conditions and every day use. hope that suits it. 👍
I just bought a Forekaster to use it in the front wheel. Until now my setup is Rekon Race front and rear and Im ok with it, very very fast but knowing that it has it's limits on technical or wet terrain, so that's why I upgraded the front, so I can have more grip and confidence when comfronting more rugged or wet trails. Im really looking forward trying the Forekaster!
Is that the new Forekaster or this model?
I bought the new one @@LoveMTB
@@capitandisfruton1400 yeah good combo but the Forekaster will be a lot heavier than your RR
Forekaster is the best! Run it up front with a 2.35 ardent race out back, great combo for the steep trails I have easy access too. Find the majority of other maxxis xc tires really hold the forekaster back because they don't have enough volume or braking traction. AR side knobs also pair extremely well with it. The 2.25 rekon is also a decent match braking wise, but the side knobs let go a hair too soon for really pushing fast, steep corners. For more full on XC race speed I usually run rekon front, aspen rear, both 2.25.
@@LoveMTB !
Love Forekaster, it's my allround tire for XC.
@@LoveMTB what would you suggest on rear? What if I mount the tire with rotation arrow backwards?
Forecasters are fantastic for damp/dry conditions. A GREAT spring/summer tire. Going 2.6 is a great option.
I just crashed on the forecaster slipping out from under me on a turn! I'm used to wtb wolverines lol
I have run the Forekaster 2.35 in 27.5 and in 29er. IMO it's not a great tyre for wet conditions on the front. There's no hard, square edge like you see on the likes of the DHF / R and Dissector and High Roller II for example. I think it does best in dry loose over hard conditions. I know that's not what Maxxis says but that's my experience having run them for over three years. Definitely a good rear tyre for most conditions though. If you want a good front tyre for wet conditions where the tyre can bite into the surface, try a Shorty. A good dry combo I found was 2.35 Forekaster front and 2.2 Ardent Race rear. 2.3 Shorty front and 2.35 Forekaster rear is a good wet combo and the front Shorty does better in the dry than you'd think, especially on loose over hard.
@@LoveMTB haven't tried the 2.4 Ardent. only the 2.25 way back in the 26" days.
I would run the Forekaster on the front in 2.35 mode and an Aspen on the rear in 2.25 mode. Great for dry to moist conditions and in the corners too whilst still keeping things lightweight.
@@LoveMTB Forecaster EXO for loose, loamy and moist loamy on the front works perfectly. If it were bone dry and dusty though I would opt for Aspens EXO front and rear.
@@LoveMTB Rekon Race is heavier than the Aspen which has a surprising amount of grip and clears moist soil better in my experience. I have been running Aspens front and rear for XC racing for the last 4 seasons. Only early in the season and late season if there had been some recent rainfall had I decided to go with the Forekaster on the front. Alot depends on the area you are riding and how well it drains.
I've been running a forekaster(29x2.35) up front and an aggressor(29x2.30) in back since April. And so far all positives.
@@LoveMTB this is what my bike shop recommended.
I had huge issues with xc tires and washing out in corners. I must have slammed on the ground a dozen times.
Raged and dropped in a. Exo dhf 2.5 on front and never looked back. Prob overkill but man what a difference it made.
@@LoveMTB i ran a set of wtb tcs light tires. Those were the most dangerous tires ever. By time i removed them they must have had 50 punctures. Forget it as a front tire. Cornering would wash out immediately in damp florida dirt or over hard pack. Ran a magic mary in the front and it was so bad it was like riding the front brake. I love light stuff but i dont play with tires. Too dangerous. I value my face lol. Im 6f2 about 220 lbs. Ended up ripping the tcs light right off the front rim with a off line landing. I like to get routy and take a few feet of air. Is there is any weakness in the tire. It will be exposed on the landing. For me. The weight saving wasn't worth the ease of pedaling.
This just popped in my feed. Great job on the channel, as usual! I run Forecasters on the back with Cushcore. They're fast rolling with enough traction to get the job done on what I call "Shore Style XC" out here on the west coast, which is basically 80% of everything in BC. Since many more aggressive tires for the front are pushing the weight barrier past 950g, I'm still searching for a new ideal front tire that weighs what Nobby Nics used to weigh at sub-800 grams.
I really like the tire for wet conditions. It usually stays on my spare front wheel in case I need it on short notice. I used it to ride wet 3 stage and it was great considering how rocky the trails are. Also used it for one OCUP race at Port Hope and it didn't slow me down. In dry hardpack conditions I still prefer the Ikon for predictability. When pushing it in dry conditions I find it suddenly gives out probably because of the tall knobs folding.
I've been running this same combo (Forekaster in front, Rekon Race in the rear) for the last two seasons and have loved thjs combination on dry singletrack. I was disappointed when Maxxis redesigned the Forekaster in 2023. It's a heavier, slower rolling tire compared to the original.
With you on that💯
@@Monkeyseemonkey79 And @mTb so what will be your recommendation for front Tyre , I’ll use rekon race for rear , and looking for the right option up front , what I would is speed and grip y speedy corners !! Thanks
A great tyre IMO and currently have them front and rear, 29x2.35 but considering a 2.6 up front.
@@LoveMTB won't cut the mustard in the loose and rocky stuff around here and the terrain is slippery when wet.
I found it to be an OK tire for general trail riding in dry conditions. I haven't used it in wet so I don't know how it handles there. For trails that are more XC or flow oriented with small to medium elevation gains the Forekaster is just OK in my opinion. To me, it doesn't feel as confident in the corners as a DHF but it does take a lot less to get it rolling on the climbs. And it does soak up the smaller bumps better given the same psi. Tires are always a trade off. Because I ride in the mountains and also in some relatively flat locations, I bought another set of rims and tires and swap them out depending on the trails I'm going to. For XC style trails or just loafing around, I run the Forekaster on the front and Recon Race on the back. For more aggressive riding on downhill style trails, I run a DHF on the front and the Aggressor on the back. Way better traction and cornering confidence than the XC setup but also 1.6 pounds heaver and harder to climb with. I would like to try the High Roller II next for the XC setup as they look to be a good compromise between weight, rolling resistance and traction compared to my XC setup. I'm not real happy with the Recon Race on the rear since it doesn't have the braking traction I would like. But at least it does let me practice my drifting in the corners!
I haven't been mountain biking very long (about two years) so I haven't been able to try other tires. The regular Recon looks like it would have more grip since the knobs are taller in the center, although it looks like it might still be a bit short for the more aggressive trails I ride. I am considering it for the rear when it's time to replace the Recon Race in my XC setup. I might also go with the Forekaster in back and a High Roller II in front. I feel that the Forekaster has more traction in the kitty litter then the Recon Race. I deal with a lot of hard pack with tons of kitty litter and sand on my trails so traction is sometimes hard to find even with the DHF. Here's an example XC trail that I ride: th-cam.com/video/H0lyn9a4UVM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ScottMorton
The Dissector in front looks good to me as well. I definitely want to consider it for the front on my downhill setup but I am reluctant to add it to my XC setup since it's a bit more on the aggressive side for XC. Although, if I only had one set of wheels, I would give it a try. The Dissector and Recon combo you mention sounds like a great setup and perhaps the best compromise for both XC and downhill trails. The Dissector would be a bit on the aggressive side for XC while the Recon would be a bit on the slippery side for downhill. But it is still nothing that you couldn't get use to and still provide enough traction for almost anything you would ride!
After testing both, on my downcountry bike I prefer a DHR 2 up front, with an Aggressor on the rear. The DHF is too slow rolling and heavy, and it gets sketchy when you lean the bike. The DHR is faster rolling and I prefer the cornering feel thanks to the transition knobs.
Thanks! Will switch to forekaster
Wow very thorough.
Running 2.4 ardent up ftont and a 2.35 ardent in back right now, while they do slide around a little they are very predictably and confidence inspiring. But i want to check out the forkasters for sure
A friend told me that on wet/mud Ardent slide more than Ardent Race, wonder if Forekaster will slide too (because of the big spacing between knobs (and if it is more likely to puncture)
This is now kinda old to argue but;
I had Ardent on rear and then i switched to ardent race. Not that ardent race has better rolling, but also it has beter climbing on wet and even light mud, and overall grip is better. Forekaster is good for wet, but not in soft wet and mud. When you go faster or downhill on muddy trail it is posible to loose traction and slip to side when going straight or light cornering.
I find Forekaster very squimy and bouncy, probably due to the 120 tpi casing. I prefer Rekon as a fast rear tire, it feels firmer. Rekon also offers a softer compound that gives more grip rear for climbing wet rocks.
@@LoveMTB ofc. I mean with same pressures. You could run higher pressure, but then grip would be even worse. I use it now as rear tire, but will swap back to Rekon asap.
I think you are right when you commented on my previous post that bontrager tires are made by maxis looks identical to the recon
Hi @loveMTB. So And what will be your recommendation for front Tyre , I’ll use rekon race for rear (super fast) , and looking for the right option up front , what I would is speed and grip y speedy corners !! Thanks! 🙏
Maybe Rekon?
Love this tire though I use it on the back during the fall and spring. It’s great in wet and muddy conditions.
LoveMTB riding a dhr II. I’m riding a Trail429. I run the Rekon out back in the summer. Another great tire.
Marko, would you recommend that I use a rekon in the summer like you do, even if I ride in blown out, dusty conditions? Or is the forekaster better for that?
@@benforsyth243 sorry for the delayed response. I’ve run both in these conditions. I feel the rekkon is a faster tire and worked better for those conditions. Also the rekkon has more variety when it comes to sizing for 30mm rims.
I'm interested in new Pirelli XC tyres, their weight is 600g claimed so a good start.
I've just ordered a pair of Forekasters in 27.5 x 2.35 for my hardtail. I loved Rocket Ron/Thunder Burt in 2.25 on my full sus but wanted to try a higher volume tyre on the hardtail.
So I've been out on the Forekasters three times now. There's definitely more rolling resistance than the Schwalbes but that seems to be offset by a much more cushioned ride and vastly improved rear wheel braking... I might consider swapping for an Ikon or Ardent Race in 2.35 at some point and keeping the rear Forekaster as a spare.
I use a rock razor out back. Love it.
Watch out for lose wet tires. Usually have a lot of drag.
Good tyre. I have a lot of time on the FK in 27.5 and 29
@@LoveMTB Loose over hard, rocky and mostly dry. Trail riding. Like it as a rear in winter with a Shorty up front.
I really enjoy your content. I have subscribed. I also want to do more maintenance myself.
Not as great on fast side ways cornering, but really great for moderate trail riding
I would love to hear what you think about the 2.35" Forekaster vs. a 2.6" or 2.4" Rekon as a front tire on a cross-country/down-country bike. I replaced my hardtail this winter with a Kona Hei Hei (Al) and it comes with a 2.35" Forekaster front and rear. I've already replaced the rear with a 2.35" 3CS Ardent race for better rolling speed.
@@LoveMTB Thanks for the input! I am trying some faster rolling tires this season after giving a dissector on the front of my trail bike at the end of last season on your advice. Here are my changes for my 150/130mm trail bike:
2021 - Maxxis DHR II 2.4" + Aggressor 2.3" F/R
2022 - Maxxis Dissector 2.4" + Rekon 2.4" F/R
I think this should give me 80-90% of the grip with much better rolling speed. I'll give the 2.35" Ardent race and the 2.35" Forekaster a try and see if that balances grip and speed well on a 120/100mm bike. My local trails go from wet and muddy to loose and sandy in the corners very quickly so the Forekaster might be just the tool for the job.
congratulations beautiful video ... I am looking for a very smooth / fast tire ... I travel a lot of asphalt as well as doing simple dirt tracks ... compared to the rekon race what do you think of maxxis pace?
What are the diferents betwen Thunder Burt and Rekon Race?
Which one has higher knob?
What do you prefer?
What about regular rekon 2.4” up front?
THe Maxxis Foreskin is gud too...
I used the forecaster 29x2.35 on my previous bike and I was not impressed. Good braking but disappointed with the cornering traction, especially on loose terrain.
In the front. As far as I can tell it's called forecaster because it helps you in case you are caught in less than ideal weather and so it should help when it's wet but you didn't expect it. I have tried nobby Nik and rocket rons, I recommend those. The nobby niks should be good in wet conditions as well.
My bike came with these tires but I’ve found that I can wash out on the front easily, can any one recommend a fast rolling tire but with better cornering than these forekasters ? I was thinking maybe the higher roller 2
Forekaster or ardent forward?
Why you don't compare with similar tires like ron, nic etc. ? I have ron back 2.25 wtb breakout front 2.5 and is scary in loose sand or road with little stones or rocks with sand, what you suggest ?
@@LoveMTB Thanks Racing Ray look interesting and is wider. But I am for something liki mini minnion, are the reckon, not the race version something like that ?
Are all maxxis forekaster tubeless ready even those that are not folding when sold?
@@LoveMTB noted on this thank you for your response and confirmation
Qual melhor pra dianteiro esse forekaster ou o Aspen
Muito obrigado ,vou comprar um ,por coincidência tbm uso um Roket ROM
Will this tire fit on a 22mm rim?
i got 27.5 x 2.35 on a 32 iw rims.. is it too wide for these tires?
@@LoveMTB 19mm internal rim will be fine?
@@LoveMTB inner rim width 19mm WTB SX19