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Hey, I just wanted to correct something that I wasn't clear on at the time of the interview - [33:04] While I did wind up having these conversations, I am not at all 100% certian of the validity of that situation, as it had been over a decade since it happened and since recently I had been made aware of information that confirms the identity of this girl's existence dating beyond 2009. There is a very real chance this happened, and I am not comfortable making a definative statement either way, reguardless I denounce the behaviour outright and have already left the project, for the sake of morality, I hope it didn't happen, if it did, I hope the girl is okay - and I'm sorry for casting doubt from my findings, I wished I had learned of these things sooner since it had been over 3 years since I had even looked into it. Huge thanks to Tom for giving me a platform.
Cameron...you and everyone else aren't heros for leaving the project, you especially, you made an entire live stream to talk to Jane to defend Alex, you are to Alex what Mike is to Logan Paul. For YEARS, you've people known everything he had ever done and how much of a dick and an asshole he is. Again you of all people kept defending him with everything he got. You all just left now cause there would literally be no excuse you could use now
It doesn’t matter if the victim thinks she is one or not, children do not understand what is being done to them. Hence why they are minors and can not consent. They do not understand their situation and aren’t developed enough to know it’s wrong. Joking or not, a nearly 40 year old man should never have sexually charged conversations with a child.
At risk of of sounding like alex. She’s not a 6 or 7 year old. She’s 16-17 she can fully be aware of the magnitude of the situation, if she doesn’t feel like she was groomed. It’s not because she’s too stupid to not think so
@@patriotic-panda She’s been speaking to him since she as NINE, of course she’ll wsnt to believe in his character. She doesn’t know her long time “friend” is a creepy weirdo
bro literally had a whole game feature where youd have to take panty shots of girls to get more info. im not even surprised and i dont think anyone else is
@@milkyeyez34 or the concept of opening the main characters skirt to reveal the inventory. The main character, who is underaged... how did people not notice this sooner
The entire game premise is very creepy. I don't even know how any adult male can look at that game and not be disgusted. Seriously, how it was even hyped in the first place?
@@thatonejoey1847the auditory pf the game was really blind about everything (like myself actually) cuz yandere dev turns over every situation where he was wrong and make himself a victim. Thats really cringe and stupid but everybody trust him and support the game development We are just don't understand whats happening and how bad it is So there should be some people that knows how awful yandere dev is but i guess they are just dont not distribute it or dont receive any attention
It really doesn't matter if the person "doesn't feel groomed" or "doesn't feel like a victim" Children can't consent and shouldn't be talking to adults in ANY sexual way, joking or not. He totally took advantage of her young age and her being a super fan of the game.
@ayooQueerFurrySatanistHere yeah it's so weird how the same people online go from '17 is LITERALLY a child' to 'you're a grown ass adult' at 18. Idk who decided 18 is some magic number anyways, age of consent is lower than 18 in a lot of states. Where I am in Canada it's 16 but most people still see that as way too young, but 18 as a full adult. The older I get the weird it is. I was in my last year of highschool at 18.
I mean it DOES matter, it matters in how its discussed and how its framed. That doesn't make what he did not wrong, but people trying to force her to identify as a victim aren't doing anyone any favors
He could of just sat back and let the programmer from tinyBuild do all the coding but then Alex had to learn how to actually code. He could of gotten a team together with all the money he got from people wanting the game but chose why give people a cut of that money on top of whatever there is to him for anyone that had to work with him.
@@thatonejoey1847 legit the oprimization the other prorgammer did back then, i remember some youtubers trying the game out and it legit was night and day, it had many glitches yes, but it also had 1000 more fps at that xd
The thing thats weird is that everyone is totally ignoring the several grooming allegations (with proof) that have been made against him in the past. This girl is not actually the worst case. There's a very researched deep dive called "Yandere Simulator's Open Secret" that came out a month ago, going into the _several_ allegations in the past thata re totally seperate from this. Im genuinely shocked people are acting like this is the first time hes been inappropriate with minors.
That's why the voice actors are getting backlash for suddenly acting like yanderedev being a predator was some big damn secret. You could see it from a mile away.
@@Ign0rantP3rsonnot true. I had no idea about any of his past allegations before watching that videos. I don’t think the voice actors would knowingly work under a pedo for FREE. They just really loved the game. I’m sad for them.
Keep in mind that unless he’s on the top of your TH-camr list and the algorithm is in your favor, most people aren’t really going to find out about the allegations unless you’re actively searching for them. Yandev has been off my radar for _years_ since I’ve given up on the game coming out so I didn’t hear anything about him until big TH-camrs brought it up to the forefront. In many ways, the algorithm was on Yandev’s side until now.
Lol he's stubborn about his coding, he wouldn't let a whole dev company clean it up for him, opting for his elf/if nightmare because apparently he'd be lost if the code was written any other way.
@@alsen99 just by finishing it, releasing it for like 30-40 dollars on steam and potentially other platforms and then starting releasing videos on the development of either dlc or a new game that captures a similar audience, he could have made so much more.
Hi Tom! Just as a bit of an update, Jane has put out a more recent statement via Decepticommie, the TikToker whose video you featured at 3:53. Jane states that she was secretly supportive of the video being posted, however because of the threats of legal action and coercion from Alex he had basically manipulated her into publicly defending him, including the Reddit post and writing his first "apology" blog post for him, and diminishing the abuse she endured. I can also confirm she did not file the copyright strike herself, that was yet another thing she had to go along with out of fear and say publicly that she did it herself even though that was not the truth. Fortunately Jane has now cut ties with Alex, she acknowledges that this was indeed grooming behavior from him especially based on other things that have yet to be made public, and those of us advocating for her behind-the-scenes are doing our best to support her as much as we can to help resolve this so she can get back to a normal life.
at a point floundering around so muhc is gonna make people question her story no matter how true it is. gotta just say what it is and not dance around it or protect a pedophile threat for any reasons
you mean to tell me a older man who made a game surrounding the actions of a yandere, changing panties being an option, panty photos, random big boobs yet they are high school students allegedly and much more is a creep? paint me surprised.
@@elansleazebaganno thank u for mentioning that so i could do research, you’re indeed right. “40 and 60 middle age, period of human adulthood that immediately precedes the onset of old age. Though the age period that defines middle age is somewhat arbitrary, differing greatly from person to person, it is generally defined as being between the ages of 40 and 60.”
He’ll never give up control of the game. In the past Tiny Build wanted to work with him and provided a dev to help him out and he basically blew that up almost immediately. He can’t accept not having full control of the development.
I heard there was actually a coder from Tiny Build (I suppose) that looked at the code of his game and it was a catastrophy, so the coder rewrote a lot of it to make it right, but Alex wasn't okay with someone rewriting his shitty code, so he got mad and canceled the partnership.
is THAT what happened??? i remember during the tiny build announcement i was hype the game might actually be done, but well... this all happened instead 😂
@carolinedelarose560 well that and he couldn't read the fixed code. So instead of trying to learn from the guy fixing his game he decided to blow up the partnership
He'll probably never release the game period. Finishing and releasing it would be the end of fĺeecing delusional fans for a 4 figure income each month while doing nothing but sitting on his lazy ass.
It is absolutely possible for minors and adults to be friends in a not-creepy way. Mentors is a great example. People who think it isn't possible because something like this could happen suffer from brain rot from too much hentai. But, that's not to be confused with adults who do not want any minors for friends because they might perceive they are all too immature, which is also valid imo.
Just because she says that she was ok with it after the evidence was released doesn't make it right for him to be talking to her the way he did. She literally could not consent.
@@Henry8VIII8 Agreed. Everything she was parroting just screams "scripted by Yandev". She doesn't realize how bad it is, because he has desensitized her to such material for years.
Yeah, I have no idea why people seem to think that breaking the law is okay if you have "consent". You can't get sexually involved or allude to sexual activity, even as much as exchanging lewd pictures, with someone underage. It is plain simple. Whether or not the underage person consented is besides the point.
"you have been working on the game since I was seven" That should've been the moment of realisation. That's when you hang up the call and never speak to underage fans again.
@@tsks5939 He actually never even had an age limit for the game till a few years ago when his game got backlash from social media and the news for children and preteens playing his game, so he made it "18+" to avoid anymore conflicts... But the point is that he never even cared if kids played his game till parents got angry.
I remember hearing rumors about this guy FOR YEARS for similar things. This doesn’t surprise me in the least, I’m actually surprised this hasn’t happened sooner.
Exactly, the whole reason grooming is bad is bc children don’t know what’s bad there for they can’t consent, yk grooming is working when u didn’t even know it was happening
Inexperienced and ignorant of the world at large doesn't equal stupid. A lot of kids are actually smart, but can be influenced unduly, which also doesn't equal stupid, it just equals naive, and they most definitely need to be protected until they're adults, I do agree with you there. Now, adults, adults can be just plain pig ignorant.
I'm an old fan of the game the panties features and such when added pissed me off Im hoping a company remakes the game if yanderdev desides to sell it and I hope yanderdev gets arrested
idrc whether the victim believes she was groomed. Jane is in high school, this is now entirely out of her hands. I am so sorry for what happened to her, and we known DAMN WELL that she is NOT the only one. this information needed to get out to protect others from Alex.
She'll realize it when she's an adult. Most kids either don't realize it's grooming because, especially in high school, you feel much more mature than you are. It'll hit her like a truck when she's in her 20s, speaking from experience lmao
@@llamaniaman4002 as long he has an edgy concept that appeals to kids, he has a fanbase they are not going to seek any sources besides his own, where he blames everything on his mental health instead of acknowledging that he… idk… had a sexual convo with a 16yo
22:46 absolutely 100% grooming, he was slowly making her more comfortable with sexual conversations and such with the intent of eventually receiving nudes from her and even eventually “travelling accross the country.” to see her for “something” textbook grooming cuz the end result was definitely going to be inappropriate
he literally admitted that the only reason he, a 30+ year old man, doesn’t mess with minors is bc he doesn’t want trouble with the cops and the laws say no, or otherwise he would. funny that he fails to acknowledge that part
@@greychi you better get help because seeing kids everywhere is not healthy behavior saw what I did, just like you, I demonized my opponent. THIS IS SO SMART AND MATURE
Ill never forget the feeling of my stomach dropping back in 2017 or 18 when my at the time 8/9 year old niece told me her favorite game was yandere simulator and how she needed to secure her senpai. I was honestly shocked because i very well knew she didnt quite understand the content of the game yet felt so strongly about it and no supervision from her parents. I knew i was the only one in the family to even know what the game was...but also knew my brother and his ex-wife did not care.
@@haley746 nah they don't even pay attention 💀 My brother very well knows what anime is and watched it into his teen years heavily, his ex wife also dabbled into anime a lil. They just didn't care enough to check what their daughter was playing.
@@aleksrozum1594It doesn't, but it makes them an enabler. And an enabler of pedophiles are almost as bad as the pedos themselves. There's your explanation.
Yeah, damn, I can't believe people forced him to read e-mails for 8-12 hours a day instead of working on the game. And he couldn't hire someone else to do it because they wouldn't do the job right.
@@bluetiger2468 real talk as somebody who struggles with some mental health stuff, i remember when it happened the emails thing hit me as like "if i wasn't properly medicated i might do this same shit", it really gave me perspective
It's crazy, because I write a web novel and I have a hard time reading comments at all, so I need to force myself to do so. I've never had anything really bad be said about it, but that fear is there in the back of my head.
Followed his "development" since prior to going into the navy. He needs to just stop and just sell it. He's been the best example of what not to do in programming. He had a chance to learn about 5 or so years ago new coding techniques from someone who has completed a game. He's a leech who cannot fix himself or this game.
I don't even think he can sell it at this point. He had the opportunity with Tinybuild, and messed it up. I don't even think people would need to buy "his" idea. Just remake the whole thing (in a better less creepy way), with original character design, have it take place in a university instead of a high school, add accurate clothing for the environment and real Japanese names, and you're good. What is he going to do about it? Claim he invented the idea? That would be like if the creators behind Minecraft claim people can't make a game with mining and crafting mechanics.
@@bluetiger2468 yeah the whole thing is tainted to the core and everyone that tries to make a game of the same style tends to also be a massive scum bag like Alex, love letter and Dr Apeis/ narwhal, looks like Alex didn't want to be second place any longer. Also yes the names are cringe, we have the love interest John Doe, the nurse Nurse Nurse, the childhood best friend Childhood Friend and japanified versions of the scooby gang. This is a mess, just torch the thing
@@bluetiger2468people have tried to make better Yandere games, but every time YanDev sees someone competing with him he either threatened them or used his clout to have the new devs abandon the project. Now that the clout is gone, maybe something will fill the vacuum.
@bluetiger2468 Honestly based. I think the concept of the game is great but it needs some changes to be viable for full release. Under an actual, competent indie studio, YanSim could very much be a great game. But under Dev, it is cursed to fail.
I refuse to believe that the composer dude is "shocked". Alex had made whole rants about his views on the age of consent in the past. How can he be shocked that his friend who happens to believe age of consent is stupid was caught messaging with under-aged girls.
His reaction is also so strange and somewhat offputting. Like i get maybe reformity for yandev, but no way would i ever trust that man or like or be friends with him again. Nothing he could do would ever get rid of that doubt in my mind. I felt like the composer had to backtrack a little to cover himself a bit, in making sure he didnt look to bad. His personal opinion doesnt really matter, because as a professional in a public matter you have to do what is “right” to have a career. Of course hes not going to support yandev publicly. Either way i do feel bad for him. Hes been working with yandev since he was a teen, right? Grooming doesnt have to be sexual, or for sexual means
Yeah, is obvious that this people are only cutting ties to minimize damage, at best they don't care and only wanted the money and cloud from working in a pretty famous game, at worst, they are just like him...
It's always the ones you least expect... Except in this case. Been expecting this for years. More surprised it took this long for the "sexual maturity license" guy to get outed.
Nah nah cause it reminds me that some weirdo under one of Tom's comment section (in some older videos) talked about the SML. Hilarious to think about it now, because the people who wish for things like these are your average daytime predators.
I disagree, if someone doesn't want their private life blurted out all over youtube, you gotta rewpect that. If a 'friend' of mine did that when I asked them not to? Well, they're no friend of mine. You think a 17 year old can't consent to talking about the age of consent, but she can consent just fine to having her reputation put on the line for views? She can't understand the coplexity of one, but can magically understand the other? No, if she said 'no do't do it' it was wrong to do it, plain and simple. We're not talking about going to the police here, we're talking about publicity, social media, and being raked over the coals.
"Jane" actually filed the strike. I think Ally posting it and keeping Jane anonymous is fair especially since Jane let Ally know that Alex was pressing her to lie for him. It's common for victims to think they are NOT victims. Especially when it's a child. Ally did the right thing. I understand her & anyone questioning if it was the right thing to do. However, this info could possibly save someone from something so much more horrific happening at the hands of Alex. Also, there are likely other young girls that think they are NOT victims but now they may be able to recognize that his interactions with them were wrong. Plus, this may encourage other victims to speak out that were afraid to come out before. Can 16y/o's be sexually aggressive?.... Yes. Can the adult feel flattered, special, desirable?.... Yes. Also the young person may be intelligent, have interesting hobbies, be funny, be physically attractive & actually looking like an adult. However, the adult needs to explain why it's inappropriate and end the conversation or friendship or whatever relationship if the younger person won't respect the boundaries set out by the adult.
It’s interesting that the alleged victim is denying the claims and doesn’t agree with the upload. It makes for an interesting discussion on the culture of exposing predators and the effect it can have on the victim. Regardless of the victims sentiment, I personally think a predator should be exposed so more people aren’t victimized. She may not feel like a victim, but who’s to say someone else wont? Wild situation.
The victim has since retracted her statement and supports the upload. I wouldn't be surprised if she only disagreed with the initial upload because Alex accused her of being "emotionally abusive" by wondering if she should come out about it.
Because it wasn't non stop, people caught him streaming for hours upon hours. He also micromoderates his discord and reddit for opposing opinions. Also his code is baaaaaaad, like beginner level baaaaad, it's unoptimised, it's spaghetti. The code is so bad it can't consistently run at 60fps because it's so wonky and weird and when a competent developer fixed it up he complained he couldn't read it. The game is (or was idk if he finally learned) notorious for having so many else if statements, like plagued with them. His two previous games while under the alias of evaxephon got laughed at by Skull Girls creator Mike Z and 4 chan. He doesn't know what he is doing
YanDev made $3k a month at his peak, and still was making a decent living before this came. He drew out the Patreon money for as long as he could and still would be if not for this fallout.
Feature creep, is the short of it. He's legitimately pretty fucking good at whipping out small games in quick order. Like that Undertale paradoy, or the easter eggs and minigames. But his organizational skills are a fucking travesty. The game keeps getting more and more and more bloated. It's like if you were to write a book, but never put down the pen.
If anyone really cares, the victim of yesterday has admitted that they were intimidated by threats of a lawsuit and manipulated by Alex into retreating their statement and flagging the video themselves. There’s even evidence that the victim helped Alex write all of his responses to the allegations.
I remember being obsessed with Yandere Simulator back when I was a dumb 12 year old weeb in 2016. Luckily, the fan community I was in was already critical of Alex, even back before he made his infamous "Hate and Shame" video, which is good cause I probably would've been stupid enough to try to contact him if I wasn't warned about his history.
@@DemBigOlEyes Zoe quinn is a “game developer and writer” she was the creator of a game called depression quest and was infamous for sleeping with publishers to get good scores on depression quest. This lead to people wondering about the integrity of game journalism (nowadays there’s none) which sparked gamergate. She also accused Alec Holowka, night in the woods (a diffrent game that she didn’t make) creator of physical and emotional abuse leading him getting kicked off his development team and to his sui2ide so yeah, people don’t like her for good reasons.
I will never understand what goes through the minds of these people. I am almost 38 myself and not even in my wildest dreams would I engage in any way, shape, or form with someone who is not an adult. (My little cousin who is 17 is an exception because she's family and I am insanely protective of her)
This is not the first time YandereDev talked to/talked about minors inappropriately. There are even fanfics he made where he talked about fictional 14yo being "well developed" and talked about the child's body sexually. And a fictional underaged virgin that wanted to lose her "maidhood" to the main character in this fanfic (that was probably supposed to be his alter ego or something). The fanfic had really weird sex scenes and really bad written women. Also there is this strange post where Alex is talking about how he hates his parents and how he wants to kill them and other posts where he express himself like an incel (basically the "women don't want to date me, so there's problem in women not me" mindset). Plus the game itself is really grooming. Where high schoolers that are allegedly 18 are being killed, tortured and having their underwear seen and photographed.
Fictional is still fictional. The drawing/character has no emotions and thus cannot be traumatized and cannot be criminalized, because no one was hurt. Of course, it is still very suspicious, especially if the author/artist makes sure to point out the age. A close eye should be kept on the person, to ensure they don't... take the next step. Point is, you CAN'T criminalize someone for wanking toa drawing, unless the drawing is explicitly depicting a minor that is real. A characature of a real minor.
It’s not only adults, this 16 year old guy I was talking to…. *on discord* ….was INCREDIBLY inappropriate with me (a 12/13 year old). If it wasn’t for my friend I wouldn’t have blocked him because I thought we were friends, he said we were besties for life and shit. 🤷♀️
I feel so bad for all of the artits and voice actors, all of their hard work is now wasted, i feel bad especially the content creators for have to drop the game to not he associated with this creep
They knew what type of person Alex was, 99% of what Alex is acused of has been proven and his defenses are always manipulative and easly disproven. The artist only left because this time they couldn't justify staying, he was mever good
There is tons more evidence (literally decades of statements and DMs made by him) of yandere Dev being a predator besides this soo yeah... despite this being slightly ambiguous he is definitely a predator
Yeah, that makes more sense. I was getting a bit confused here. I mean this clearly creepy and immoral behavior, but nothing that crossed the line into clear grooming without additional context. That said im black pilled enough on this subject to think he probably was trying to groom her
I remember when Null talked about YanDev on an old Midnight Mad stream. There was an ~8 year old girl running defense for YanDev on the Farms to the point that Null had to call her parents on her. Yandere Simulator’s fan base has always been young and obsessive, so (assuming this is true) there’s absolutely more victims out there.
Yeah, no wonder there are some many groomed kids out there, they have been handled a pc/tablet and let alone and unsupervised in the internet. The parents are guilty of this, they should pay more attention on their children.
God bless the people who get big that don't abuse their power and do shit like that. It's always talking to minors, or physcial abuse. I can't wrap my head around it.
@@joezilla101 Jay from the Kubz Scouts, 5 million subs and as far as I know, no controversy except for a custody dispute with an ex. Was the only youtuber how played this game after the initial hype wave passed with a series about debunking myths and challenges.
@@joezilla101Yea, he was a massive mythbuster regarding the game, and practically one of the titans of the community. But, enough was enough, and he left
12:30 and 13:08 Oof… This really hurt to hear/read… When I was being groomed multiple people would call out my ex, and I would say similar things. I would say that it’s the others trying to manipulate, when it was really my groomer who was manipulating me into thinking he was innocent. I can’t help but wonder if Yandere Dev is doing the same with the victim in this case. Regardless, I hope the victim is able to stay safe. While I think their wishes should be respected, at the same time I also think that it’s important to expose predators, especially if they are ones in power.
Dude said "before I continue addressing how sad I am about how I made an oopsie poopsie, i am reminded of a time that I SAVED SOMEBODY'S LIFE, but now I'm just a big ol stinker 😢"
I can't really feel bad for Cameron. He chose to ignore previous accusations and controversies about Yandere Dev simply because he "Knew" him. While it must definitely suck my empathy ends at the "well that sucks" portion. I wish him luck in his career tho,since I admit, he makes good music.
I'm surprised he didn't bat an eye to the predatory nurse and teacher, the panty shot system, the skirt inventory system, the underaged sister lusting after her own brother. And this is all gameplay related, no allegations here or anything. Truly a biased source
There's no reason to feel bad, even now Cameron is still defending him, even in this video, despite him saying that it was not okay what happened, he keeps making excuses and saying that it was not that bad and could have been way worse, you can hear him trying his hardest to find a way to keep going down on Alex. Tho Tom is not really acting like something that bad happened either
@@thatonejoey1847 those are all relatively common anime tropes, so one could easily just think "well yeah it's a game that's a parody of these sorts of anime so those being present make sense" to justify it to themselves, even though it doesn't come off as parody at all in this instance.
@@DanielLopes-dh2hv His reaction is so strange and offputting. Like i get maybe reformity for yandev, but no way would i ever trust that man or like or be friends with him again. Nothing he could do would ever get rid of that doubt in my mind. I felt like the composer had to backtrack a little to cover himself a bit, in making sure he didnt look to bad. His personal opinion doesnt really matter, because as a professional in a public matter you have to do what is “right” to have a career. Of course hes not going to support yandev publicly. Either way i do feel bad for him. Hes been working with yandev since he was a teen, right? Grooming doesnt have to be sexual, or for sexual means
Interesting. I feel entirely differently. From my understanding, most of Yandev's previous allegations were very embarrassing, but relatively harmless stuff in comparison to this recent allegation. It seems like Cameron went well out of his way to do his research about Yandev to morally justify himself, even seeking out the source of an allegation from years prior. He says that what Yandev did was bad and inexcusable, so I don't even feel he particularly downplayed it. I think if anything, he's particularly deserving of empathy due to how much the circumstance screws him over, and how shocking the news is.
I love how UNFEELING I am to his entire apology. I'm an empath and even the worst of people can make me cry when they show even a bit of remorse, because that's just how my heart works. I don't forgive their actions but they at least make me feel something. This dude's apology pissed me off, cause all I hear is "oh, I did so wrong, here's how it affects ME and MY work." Sure there's some reflection of how it affects others involved but it feels like a damn sob story about how he made a mistake and how badly it's gonna ruin his life and work and I could care LESS. It's not about you, Alex, it's about the minor you talked to, the people who trusted you and worked with you and how you're going to stop and improve to someday become a DECENT human being.
I think you can still use what he was trying to make as a red flag. You have to keep in mind, he added a panty mechanic, taking pictures of other girls panties without their consent for points, and you can choose what panty you want to wear. He did this instead of adding CORE mechanics of the game. He added that to the game before adding the first rival out of the 10 he promised. But no, he prioritized that. I understand separating the art from the artist, if he made the entire game first, then I wouldn't see it as a red flag. It would be questionable, but whatever.
He literally had panty shots as form of currency, a pedophile teacher as a rival, and the love interests YOUNGER SISTER as a rival. I don’t know how that doesn’t scream red flag but sure man.
Alex is only sorry that he got caught. All the posturing of his regret, the "Woe is me, I'm such a bad person, I'm so pathetic" is just a show to garner affirmation because it's what he thinks he is "supposed" to do. He doesn't think he did anything wrong, but he knows everyone else thinks he did, so he's putting on a show of sorrow. Don't fall for it. He will only ever be truly sorry when he's faced real punishment in a jail cell with time to sit and stew with what he did. I honestly don't hate him, and I don't wish harm upon him like some do. I believe he's mentally ill and needs help. I also believe that everyone can change for the better, no matter their actions (even predators). But in cases like his, he won't change unless forced to change. And it's not because he doesn't want to, it's because he can't. What he wants is affirmation, to be told that it's okay, that he isn't a bad person, that his actions weren't that bad, that his apology was enough or that he is somehow justified because of the loneliness he's gone through. He does deserve some sympathy, but sympathy and affirmation are not the same thing. Sympathy is telling him he did a shitty thing and placing him in prison so he can't hurt himself or anyone else, but also reminding him that his life isn't over because of this. He can still move forward and become a better person and even be happy eventually but the first step for him is to own up to the awful thing he did and face his punishment, starting by turning himself in no matter how terrifying it may seem. I truly hope he finds the help he needs, speaks with a therapist in prison and stops lying to himself to justify his actions.
The thing about Ally posting the video anyway is that she had reason to believe Jane had been coerced by Alex to use her "power" as a victim to stop the video and "save him". I believe I remember seeing screenshots of him coaching her on how to do it in a yt video. So if this was the case I can get where Ally was coming from.
"being attracted to a 17 year old is nearly identical to being attracted to an 18 year old" I agree with that statement, actually. A man over 30 flirting an 18 yo is just as creepy as flirting with a 17 yo, regardless if its legal. What a weirdo wording it as if it's a justification smh
All the people saying that the 16yr being flirted with by 35yr old man isnt a victim must be young as well because no mature adult would have such a take. Unless they're YandereDev.
10 years of development, and the game doesn't look that much different from when it was first revealed. I'm really not bragging here, but with a buddy of mine, it took us only one year to create a demo for a 3D remake of Zelda: Link's Awakening. And it was in the early 2010s, we were broke high schoolers building our games with open source software programs on potato computers. And in 10 years, this guy still hasn't managed to release even the first version of his game. Aren't people tired of being ripped off by obvious posers?
the old claims are not "nothing burgers" at all, that dude at the end was gaslight by yanderedev to believe that but a month ago another youtuber called FunIsInfinite made a video that proves that yandere grooming minors is been a constant thing over the years, the video is called "Yandere Simulator's Open Secret" and has strong evidence yandere won't change at all.
As someone who used to be friends with someone who was groomed…….Jane most likely doesn’t have a stable relationship with her parents which must the reason why she attempted to shield Yandere dev in the first place since in her life he must have been one of the only adults that gave her some type of comfort so of course she’d try to defend that adult and turn a blind eye to how weird their relationship is.
Y’all find it funny that this game was first dropped in 2014 and still hasn’t come out, yet the FNAF movie was announced in 2015 that everyone memed on for how it would never release is actually dropping later this month? Maybe we’ll get Half Life 3 before Yandere Simulator is ever completed.
29:37 Of course he plans to continue development. He has nothing else. He himself once said that should he fail to finish the game, there will be a multi-year gap in his life you could point to that consists of nothing but "failed indie game development". Well, it's 2023, that gap is 9 years in length and now also includes "various online sex scandals".
If nobody is there to help Yandev get better, he'll just end up hurting more people & kids. It's understandable why nobody wants to associate with a pedophile, but imagine how many kids could be protected if someone was there to help improve Yandev's mental state. The quick & easy solution to stopping pedos is to lock them up, but at the end of the day, they're still pedos & are willing to do harm. So, it's important that people help them become better, or else they'll keep developing disgusting thoughts inside their own bubbles.
“I could, but I haven’t saved any screenshots” I’m not victim blaming or anything I just found that lime really funny considering we’re reading it on a screenshot
I like that he constantly says “I won’t say this to justify it” but proceeds to say it anyway as if he’s hoping someone will read that and be like “no but he’s right”. Makes me laugh and wanna vom at the same time. Just say “I won’t excuse my actions”. Stop saying the exact things you say you’re not gonna say 💀 “I won’t say it’s out of context, if only you had the context” you said those exact words. Saying “I won’t say it” doesn’t distract front eh fact you literally DID just say it right there
Hey, I just wanted to correct something that I wasn't clear on at the time of the interview -
[33:04] While I did wind up having these conversations, I am not at all 100% certian of the validity of that situation, as it had been over a decade since it happened and since recently I had been made aware of information that confirms the identity of this girl's existence dating beyond 2009. There is a very real chance this happened, and I am not comfortable making a definative statement either way, reguardless I denounce the behaviour outright and have already left the project, for the sake of morality, I hope it didn't happen, if it did, I hope the girl is okay - and I'm sorry for casting doubt from my findings, I wished I had learned of these things sooner since it had been over 3 years since I had even looked into it.
Huge thanks to Tom for giving me a platform.
Hey! Wishing you the best! Stay safe!
the girl is okay? she's 16 and didn't even send anything
Every day I thank god for not being a lady pp hole tickler
@@luluna5228I think they mean mentally and emotionally since y’know. She did get groomed.
Cameron...you and everyone else aren't heros for leaving the project, you especially, you made an entire live stream to talk to Jane to defend Alex, you are to Alex what Mike is to Logan Paul. For YEARS, you've people known everything he had ever done and how much of a dick and an asshole he is. Again you of all people kept defending him with everything he got. You all just left now cause there would literally be no excuse you could use now
It doesn’t matter if the victim thinks she is one or not, children do not understand what is being done to them. Hence why they are minors and can not consent. They do not understand their situation and aren’t developed enough to know it’s wrong. Joking or not, a nearly 40 year old man should never have sexually charged conversations with a child.
16 is the age of consent in some places in us
@@luluna5228 Federal age of consent is still 18
@@luluna5228if it’s across states it goes by federal law
At risk of of sounding like alex. She’s not a 6 or 7 year old. She’s 16-17 she can fully be aware of the magnitude of the situation, if she doesn’t feel like she was groomed. It’s not because she’s too stupid to not think so
@@patriotic-panda She’s been speaking to him since she as NINE, of course she’ll wsnt to believe in his character. She doesn’t know her long time “friend” is a creepy weirdo
I'm honestly surprised it took this long for him to be caught red-handed.
bro literally had a whole game feature where youd have to take panty shots of girls to get more info. im not even surprised and i dont think anyone else is
@@milkyeyez34 or the concept of opening the main characters skirt to reveal the inventory.
The main character, who is underaged... how did people not notice this sooner
The entire game premise is very creepy. I don't even know how any adult male can look at that game and not be disgusted. Seriously, how it was even hyped in the first place?
@@laughingseal2282irrelevant question but is that adon in your profile picture?
@@thatonejoey1847the auditory pf the game was really blind about everything (like myself actually) cuz yandere dev turns over every situation where he was wrong and make himself a victim. Thats really cringe and stupid but everybody trust him and support the game development
We are just don't understand whats happening and how bad it is
So there should be some people that knows how awful yandere dev is but i guess they are just dont not distribute it or dont receive any attention
It really doesn't matter if the person "doesn't feel groomed" or "doesn't feel like a victim"
Children can't consent and shouldn't be talking to adults in ANY sexual way, joking or not. He totally took advantage of her young age and her being a super fan of the game.
Honestly I don't think 18 and 19 yr olds should consent with older people.
@@maas1208 real. 18 and 19 still feels too young. They’re not adults, they just have adult privileges
@ayooQueerFurrySatanistHere yeah it's so weird how the same people online go from '17 is LITERALLY a child' to 'you're a grown ass adult' at 18.
Idk who decided 18 is some magic number anyways, age of consent is lower than 18 in a lot of states. Where I am in Canada it's 16 but most people still see that as way too young, but 18 as a full adult. The older I get the weird it is. I was in my last year of highschool at 18.
@@stuffyouwithexplosives So your age of consent is 20?
I mean it DOES matter, it matters in how its discussed and how its framed. That doesn't make what he did not wrong, but people trying to force her to identify as a victim aren't doing anyone any favors
Dude was handed easy success on a silver platter multiple and still managed to screw it up.
He could of just sat back and let the programmer from tinyBuild do all the coding but then Alex had to learn how to actually code. He could of gotten a team together with all the money he got from people wanting the game but chose why give people a cut of that money on top of whatever there is to him for anyone that had to work with him.
@@Chinothebad "the coder made the code unreadable" actual Alex quote.
I once said the same thing... when I started coding and knew nothing lmao
Average neurodivergent person
@@thatonejoey1847 legit the oprimization the other prorgammer did back then, i remember some youtubers trying the game out and it legit was night and day, it had many glitches yes, but it also had 1000 more fps at that xd
Who talks to a 9yr like wtf
The thing thats weird is that everyone is totally ignoring the several grooming allegations (with proof) that have been made against him in the past. This girl is not actually the worst case. There's a very researched deep dive called "Yandere Simulator's Open Secret" that came out a month ago, going into the _several_ allegations in the past thata re totally seperate from this. Im genuinely shocked people are acting like this is the first time hes been inappropriate with minors.
That's why the voice actors are getting backlash for suddenly acting like yanderedev being a predator was some big damn secret. You could see it from a mile away.
@@Ign0rantP3rsonnot true. I had no idea about any of his past allegations before watching that videos. I don’t think the voice actors would knowingly work under a pedo for FREE. They just really loved the game. I’m sad for them.
@@cassiedion4144 My brother in christ he was just a creep in general. The dude was a fucking weirdo from the beginning.
Keep in mind that unless he’s on the top of your TH-camr list and the algorithm is in your favor, most people aren’t really going to find out about the allegations unless you’re actively searching for them. Yandev has been off my radar for _years_ since I’ve given up on the game coming out so I didn’t hear anything about him until big TH-camrs brought it up to the forefront.
In many ways, the algorithm was on Yandev’s side until now.
for real, ppl r reacting just now 😡
If Alex could find coding work arounds as well as age of consent work arounds, he would have made like 5 yandere sims by now.
Lol he's stubborn about his coding, he wouldn't let a whole dev company clean it up for him, opting for his elf/if nightmare because apparently he'd be lost if the code was written any other way.
It is his cash cow, which is why he doesn't want it to finish even in 100 years
@@octoberwildsmoke9065the else if nightmare may simply be the C# decompiler being funny. Unless that code was seen on stream it's not descriptive.
@@alsen99 just by finishing it, releasing it for like 30-40 dollars on steam and potentially other platforms and then starting releasing videos on the development of either dlc or a new game that captures a similar audience, he could have made so much more.
Or 0, because his excuses suck. 😂
Hi Tom! Just as a bit of an update, Jane has put out a more recent statement via Decepticommie, the TikToker whose video you featured at 3:53. Jane states that she was secretly supportive of the video being posted, however because of the threats of legal action and coercion from Alex he had basically manipulated her into publicly defending him, including the Reddit post and writing his first "apology" blog post for him, and diminishing the abuse she endured. I can also confirm she did not file the copyright strike herself, that was yet another thing she had to go along with out of fear and say publicly that she did it herself even though that was not the truth.
Fortunately Jane has now cut ties with Alex, she acknowledges that this was indeed grooming behavior from him especially based on other things that have yet to be made public, and those of us advocating for her behind-the-scenes are doing our best to support her as much as we can to help resolve this so she can get back to a normal life.
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You did nothing wrong if no one came forward yandev would have continued this with her and other people and would have gotten worse.
Nice job 👍
Overall this sounds like a complete clusterfuck, here's hoping that all parties involved meet a sound conclusion.
at a point floundering around so muhc is gonna make people question her story no matter how true it is. gotta just say what it is and not dance around it or protect a pedophile threat for any reasons
The minors he DMs are about as old as his game lmao
He likes his women like he likes his game...
...underdeveloped
@@thatonejoey1847Ok now that was clever 😂
@@thatonejoey1847💀
@@thatonejoey1847Yoooo!!!
@@thatonejoey1847💀
you mean to tell me a older man who made a game surrounding the actions of a yandere, changing panties being an option, panty photos, random big boobs yet they are high school students allegedly and much more is a creep? paint me surprised.
Right!? Who would have known!? 🫣🫣
Is 35 middle-aged now? I am not defending bro whatsoever but I always thought middle-age started at 40
@@elansleazebaganno thank u for mentioning that so i could do research, you’re indeed right. “40 and 60
middle age, period of human adulthood that immediately precedes the onset of old age. Though the age period that defines middle age is somewhat arbitrary, differing greatly from person to person, it is generally defined as being between the ages of 40 and 60.”
@@NoodleOrgans hell yeah
@elansleazebaganno most humans only live up to like 70 so yeah 35 is middle age
He’ll never give up control of the game. In the past Tiny Build wanted to work with him and provided a dev to help him out and he basically blew that up almost immediately. He can’t accept not having full control of the development.
I heard there was actually a coder from Tiny Build (I suppose) that looked at the code of his game and it was a catastrophy, so the coder rewrote a lot of it to make it right, but Alex wasn't okay with someone rewriting his shitty code, so he got mad and canceled the partnership.
What if he goes to jail
is THAT what happened??? i remember during the tiny build announcement i was hype the game might actually be done, but well... this all happened instead 😂
@carolinedelarose560 well that and he couldn't read the fixed code. So instead of trying to learn from the guy fixing his game he decided to blow up the partnership
He'll probably never release the game period. Finishing and releasing it would be the end of fĺeecing delusional fans for a 4 figure income each month while doing nothing but sitting on his lazy ass.
It is absolutely possible for minors and adults to be friends in a not-creepy way. Mentors is a great example. People who think it isn't possible because something like this could happen suffer from brain rot from too much hentai. But, that's not to be confused with adults who do not want any minors for friends because they might perceive they are all too immature, which is also valid imo.
So weird that yandev immediately thought of a sexual relationship.
@@rebecca537Most stunted/man child men think like that how many adult men tried to groom me even though I'm a lesbian is unbelieveable
I don't even want adults for friends, never mind children
Just because she says that she was ok with it after the evidence was released doesn't make it right for him to be talking to her the way he did. She literally could not consent.
Ally did the right thing, the victim responded in the same way as most abused people.
@@Henry8VIII8 Agreed. Everything she was parroting just screams "scripted by Yandev". She doesn't realize how bad it is, because he has desensitized her to such material for years.
The fact she was ok with it perfectly exemplifies why adolescents aren't aware of what's happening to them.
Yeah, I have no idea why people seem to think that breaking the law is okay if you have "consent".
You can't get sexually involved or allude to sexual activity, even as much as exchanging lewd pictures, with someone underage. It is plain simple.
Whether or not the underage person consented is besides the point.
Wasn't she 17? The age of consent is 16 in many states
Guy who makes a game for degenerates, turns out to be a degenerate....
Internet: 😱
do you play gta? are you a murderer? yeah yandere dev is vile but your logic is moronic
Npc
@@itook75benadryls responding with "npc" and nothing else is a really npc thing to do
@@AdamOwenBrowning youre a litteral redditor like why are you even responding
@@itook75benadrylsyour existence is ironic
"you have been working on the game since I was seven"
That should've been the moment of realisation. That's when you hang up the call and never speak to underage fans again.
That’s the thing that I don’t get…the fact he’s so ‘comfortable’ talking about a game that’s supposedly 18+ with minors.
@@tsks5939 He actually never even had an age limit for the game till a few years ago when his game got backlash from social media and the news for children and preteens playing his game, so he made it "18+" to avoid anymore conflicts... But the point is that he never even cared if kids played his game till parents got angry.
The most surprising thing I got from this video was that Tom doesn't like anime since he has the physical build of a weeb
Ikr! And turkeytom's character design too
A femboy in denial
But he like death note tho.
@@agonizingstarbutterfly1184 my 55 year old father likes death note that's like the least anime-fan-anime you could have picked
@@kiwi_arms still anime
I remember hearing rumors about this guy FOR YEARS for similar things. This doesn’t surprise me in the least, I’m actually surprised this hasn’t happened sooner.
Victim of grooming here: You never FEEL groomed until you wake up and realize it's too late and now you have a lot of therapy to look forward to
Ouch. I hope you will move on eventually.
With that picture, it seems that the damage was irreparable...
Thanks for confirming you're not one.
lmao harsh but true@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
Exactly, the whole reason grooming is bad is bc children don’t know what’s bad there for they can’t consent, yk grooming is working when u didn’t even know it was happening
As a youtuber said "kids and teens are stupid by nature, that's the main reason why we and governments need to protect them from creeps like yandev"
Inexperienced and ignorant of the world at large doesn't equal stupid. A lot of kids are actually smart, but can be influenced unduly, which also doesn't equal stupid, it just equals naive, and they most definitely need to be protected until they're adults, I do agree with you there. Now, adults, adults can be just plain pig ignorant.
@@Kawamura2 when people purposely speak broken English I'd call it stupid not ignorant.
@@Aconcernedcitizen-lc4fg slang is not stupid
@@enayy619 if your slang is speaking broken English, that language most people use to communicate (kindve important) then yes it is stupid.
@@Aconcernedcitizen-lc4fg I surely hope you’re not one of those people who think aave is “broken English”
The loss of Yandere Simulator is a blessing
I'm an old fan of the game the panties features and such when added pissed me off Im hoping a company remakes the game if yanderdev desides to sell it and I hope yanderdev gets arrested
@@Kohsandra_russia
Same, Unnecessarily sexualized female characters in the games weren't needed. I hope new dev fixes their body design as well..
@@dea9457 Well that's "anime" for you...
idrc whether the victim believes she was groomed. Jane is in high school, this is now entirely out of her hands. I am so sorry for what happened to her, and we known DAMN WELL that she is NOT the only one. this information needed to get out to protect others from Alex.
Oh he most definitely talked to other kids. But some of his young fans worship him too much to actually recognize how inappropriate it is.
She'll realize it when she's an adult. Most kids either don't realize it's grooming because, especially in high school, you feel much more mature than you are. It'll hit her like a truck when she's in her 20s, speaking from experience lmao
@@llamaniaman4002 as long he has an edgy concept that appeals to kids, he has a fanbase
they are not going to seek any sources besides his own, where he blames everything on his mental health instead of acknowledging that he… idk… had a sexual convo with a 16yo
22:46 absolutely 100% grooming, he was slowly making her more comfortable with sexual conversations and such with the intent of eventually receiving nudes from her and even eventually “travelling accross the country.” to see her for “something” textbook grooming cuz the end result was definitely going to be inappropriate
"First, the word is semen, not cum, as I would never use such
childish words. Second, it is a goblet, not a chalice."
~Yanderedev
Honestly, Semen Goblet sounds better cause you can say he's gobbling semen from the semen goblet
Yandre dev is 94% a creep which rounded up still makes him a creep.
Math!
he literally admitted that the only reason he, a 30+ year old man, doesn’t mess with minors is bc he doesn’t want trouble with the cops and the laws say no, or otherwise he would. funny that he fails to acknowledge that part
and? That's what the law was created for
I would happily go and steal the things I want, but alas, the law is the law
@@gazeta925Okay? Then you're a shit person. No normal person wants to fuck kids. No normal person wants to steal others property, etc.
@@gazeta925 so you would date children if the law allowed you to and see no problem with it? weird behavior, get help
@@greychi in almost half the states the age of consent is 16
also where did you get the “children” from, where did I write this
@@greychi you better get help because seeing kids everywhere is not healthy behavior
saw what I did, just like you, I demonized my opponent. THIS IS SO SMART AND MATURE
Ill never forget the feeling of my stomach dropping back in 2017 or 18 when my at the time 8/9 year old niece told me her favorite game was yandere simulator and how she needed to secure her senpai.
I was honestly shocked because i very well knew she didnt quite understand the content of the game yet felt so strongly about it and no supervision from her parents. I knew i was the only one in the family to even know what the game was...but also knew my brother and his ex-wife did not care.
To her parents it's probably a nice cartoon game 😅
Ex wife? Well that explains a lot doesn't it?
@@diegomedina9637 it explains a good bit, yeah.
@@haley746 nah they don't even pay attention 💀
My brother very well knows what anime is and watched it into his teen years heavily, his ex wife also dabbled into anime a lil. They just didn't care enough to check what their daughter was playing.
Yeah definitely not a kids game. But then again, every fucking game that shouldn't be targeted at kids is targeted at kids.
The people that still defend his actions are more embarrassing than himself.
They need to be put on a watchlist
Explain. How does defending someone's actions make someone a pedo?
@@aleksrozum1594 Don't die on this hill bro
@@aleksrozum1594Well... Why would you defend this kind of behavior other than partake in said behavior yourself?
@@aleksrozum1594It doesn't, but it makes them an enabler. And an enabler of pedophiles are almost as bad as the pedos themselves. There's your explanation.
He could have just finished the game but "EmAiLs"
Yeah, damn, I can't believe people forced him to read e-mails for 8-12 hours a day instead of working on the game. And he couldn't hire someone else to do it because they wouldn't do the job right.
"finish game? smell ya later gotta write to my (underage) correspondents" yandere dev probably
@@bluetiger2468 real talk as somebody who struggles with some mental health stuff, i remember when it happened the emails thing hit me as like "if i wasn't properly medicated i might do this same shit", it really gave me perspective
It's crazy, because I write a web novel and I have a hard time reading comments at all, so I need to force myself to do so.
I've never had anything really bad be said about it, but that fear is there in the back of my head.
Followed his "development" since prior to going into the navy. He needs to just stop and just sell it. He's been the best example of what not to do in programming. He had a chance to learn about 5 or so years ago new coding techniques from someone who has completed a game. He's a leech who cannot fix himself or this game.
I don't even think he can sell it at this point. He had the opportunity with Tinybuild, and messed it up. I don't even think people would need to buy "his" idea. Just remake the whole thing (in a better less creepy way), with original character design, have it take place in a university instead of a high school, add accurate clothing for the environment and real Japanese names, and you're good. What is he going to do about it? Claim he invented the idea? That would be like if the creators behind Minecraft claim people can't make a game with mining and crafting mechanics.
@@bluetiger2468 yeah the whole thing is tainted to the core and everyone that tries to make a game of the same style tends to also be a massive scum bag like Alex, love letter and Dr Apeis/ narwhal, looks like Alex didn't want to be second place any longer.
Also yes the names are cringe, we have the love interest John Doe, the nurse Nurse Nurse, the childhood best friend Childhood Friend and japanified versions of the scooby gang.
This is a mess, just torch the thing
@@bluetiger2468people have tried to make better Yandere games, but every time YanDev sees someone competing with him he either threatened them or used his clout to have the new devs abandon the project. Now that the clout is gone, maybe something will fill the vacuum.
The game should've never been "made" in the first place the idea was stupid.
@bluetiger2468 Honestly based. I think the concept of the game is great but it needs some changes to be viable for full release. Under an actual, competent indie studio, YanSim could very much be a great game. But under Dev, it is cursed to fail.
If Alex wants to do some math check this out. 35-17=18. That means when Alex was of legal age to consent, Jane was just fucking born.
Yandere dev is the "heh..i guess i deserve it.." kinda guy
The moment I saw Jay tweet about it. I knew it was over for Yandev
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Based kubz scouts moment I love him sm
Hassn't it been over for him for like.... 8 years? Seriously, who ever cares about that game now?
I refuse to believe that the composer dude is "shocked". Alex had made whole rants about his views on the age of consent in the past. How can he be shocked that his friend who happens to believe age of consent is stupid was caught messaging with under-aged girls.
His reaction is also so strange and somewhat offputting. Like i get maybe reformity for yandev, but no way would i ever trust that man or like or be friends with him again. Nothing he could do would ever get rid of that doubt in my mind.
I felt like the composer had to backtrack a little to cover himself a bit, in making sure he didnt look to bad. His personal opinion doesnt really matter, because as a professional in a public matter you have to do what is “right” to have a career. Of course hes not going to support yandev publicly.
Either way i do feel bad for him. Hes been working with yandev since he was a teen, right? Grooming doesnt have to be sexual, or for sexual means
Yeah, is obvious that this people are only cutting ties to minimize damage, at best they don't care and only wanted the money and cloud from working in a pretty famous game, at worst, they are just like him...
It's always the ones you least expect...
Except in this case. Been expecting this for years. More surprised it took this long for the "sexual maturity license" guy to get outed.
just play it safe and assume every "celebrity" is a massive degenerate. you'll be right more often than you're wrong.
Knowing he had a Discord full of young children, I always had a sick feeling that something like this was going to happen. Sadly, it happened.
Nah nah cause it reminds me that some weirdo under one of Tom's comment section (in some older videos) talked about the SML.
Hilarious to think about it now, because the people who wish for things like these are your average daytime predators.
Tbh Ally did the right thing. Those screenshots did not reflect poorly on her. It just showed Jane to be in denial.
Idk.. I dont think posting a victims private info and screenshots without their consent is ever ok
I disagree, if someone doesn't want their private life blurted out all over youtube, you gotta rewpect that. If a 'friend' of mine did that when I asked them not to? Well, they're no friend of mine. You think a 17 year old can't consent to talking about the age of consent, but she can consent just fine to having her reputation put on the line for views? She can't understand the coplexity of one, but can magically understand the other? No, if she said 'no do't do it' it was wrong to do it, plain and simple. We're not talking about going to the police here, we're talking about publicity, social media, and being raked over the coals.
@@arronbenit5660 Exactly
"Jane" actually filed the strike.
I think Ally posting it and keeping Jane anonymous is fair especially since Jane let Ally know that Alex was pressing her to lie for him. It's common for victims to think they are NOT victims. Especially when it's a child. Ally did the right thing. I understand her & anyone questioning if it was the right thing to do. However, this info could possibly save someone from something so much more horrific happening at the hands of Alex. Also, there are likely other young girls that think they are NOT victims but now they may be able to recognize that his interactions with them were wrong. Plus, this may encourage other victims to speak out that were afraid to come out before.
Can 16y/o's be sexually aggressive?.... Yes.
Can the adult feel flattered, special, desirable?.... Yes.
Also the young person may be intelligent, have interesting hobbies, be funny, be physically attractive & actually looking like an adult. However, the adult needs to explain why it's inappropriate and end the conversation or friendship or whatever relationship if the younger person won't respect the boundaries set out by the adult.
The amount of people with fame on the internet that are groomers is honestly getting kinda crazy
It’s interesting that the alleged victim is denying the claims and doesn’t agree with the upload. It makes for an interesting discussion on the culture of exposing predators and the effect it can have on the victim. Regardless of the victims sentiment, I personally think a predator should be exposed so more people aren’t victimized. She may not feel like a victim, but who’s to say someone else wont? Wild situation.
The victim has since retracted her statement and supports the upload. I wouldn't be surprised if she only disagreed with the initial upload because Alex accused her of being "emotionally abusive" by wondering if she should come out about it.
@@EggyBenedict Yep, that would be classic groomer/abuser behavior
@@EggyBenedict I mean, he does have a reputation for threatening suicide to stop people from doing things he doesn't like.
@@EggyBenedict Well, he did call her that and reversed the power imbalance to manipulate her.
I genuinely do not understand how after 10 years non-stop work that the game isn't done. How?
Because it wasn't non stop, people caught him streaming for hours upon hours.
He also micromoderates his discord and reddit for opposing opinions.
Also his code is baaaaaaad, like beginner level baaaaad, it's unoptimised, it's spaghetti.
The code is so bad it can't consistently run at 60fps because it's so wonky and weird and when a competent developer fixed it up he complained he couldn't read it.
The game is (or was idk if he finally learned) notorious for having so many else if statements, like plagued with them.
His two previous games while under the alias of evaxephon got laughed at by Skull Girls creator Mike Z and 4 chan. He doesn't know what he is doing
YanDev made $3k a month at his peak, and still was making a decent living before this came. He drew out the Patreon money for as long as he could and still would be if not for this fallout.
He also continues to add more and more content to the game, and it’s expanded far beyond its original scope.
Feature creep, is the short of it. He's legitimately pretty fucking good at whipping out small games in quick order. Like that Undertale paradoy, or the easter eggs and minigames. But his organizational skills are a fucking travesty. The game keeps getting more and more and more bloated. It's like if you were to write a book, but never put down the pen.
Why? Because YandereDev knew that they should include 10 unique rivals, but after 20 pages they realized they had no clue how to write them.
Having tiktok music playing while you're talking about someone getting groomed is crazy
@immunizenn put subway surfers under the allegations
@@kiwi_armsfamily guy footage under, child grooming allegations over. Can't fail
If anyone really cares, the victim of yesterday has admitted that they were intimidated by threats of a lawsuit and manipulated by Alex into retreating their statement and flagging the video themselves. There’s even evidence that the victim helped Alex write all of his responses to the allegations.
Tom is the type of guy to have a laugh track playing in the background whenever he enters a room like it was a 80's Sitcom.
they applaud like he's the special guest star
The Yandere Dev situation is laterally the least surprising thing to happen this year.
Tomdark is the kind of guy to record a youtube video while he has a cold
Tom Dark the type of guy to get cucked by Lerix
@@wweandbandrulesWhat?
Woah! Accurate comment!
YandereDev: the type of dude to get banned from his own discord server.
Love seeing Tom doing the actual interviews. Content is always improving
I remember being obsessed with Yandere Simulator back when I was a dumb 12 year old weeb in 2016. Luckily, the fan community I was in was already critical of Alex, even back before he made his infamous "Hate and Shame" video, which is good cause I probably would've been stupid enough to try to contact him if I wasn't warned about his history.
An abusive grifter & borderline sociopath with an unfinished game…
that’s three things YandereDev has in common with Zoe Quinn.
gender equality at last
Who is Zoe Quinn?
@@DemBigOlEyes- Idk anything about them, but they made Depression Quest
And the one thing YanDev has himself going for as a difference compared to Quinn is being a groomer.
@@DemBigOlEyes Zoe quinn is a “game developer and writer” she was the creator of a game called depression quest and was infamous for sleeping with publishers to get good scores on depression quest. This lead to people wondering about the integrity of game journalism (nowadays there’s none) which sparked gamergate. She also accused Alec Holowka, night in the woods (a diffrent game that she didn’t make) creator of physical and emotional abuse leading him getting kicked off his development team and to his sui2ide so yeah, people don’t like her for good reasons.
I will never understand what goes through the minds of these people. I am almost 38 myself and not even in my wildest dreams would I engage in any way, shape, or form with someone who is not an adult. (My little cousin who is 17 is an exception because she's family and I am insanely protective of her)
coming to terms with the fact that you were groomed, taken advantage of or abused in any way is a very hard thing to do and can take quite some time.
This is not the first time YandereDev talked to/talked about minors inappropriately. There are even fanfics he made where he talked about fictional 14yo being "well developed" and talked about the child's body sexually. And a fictional underaged virgin that wanted to lose her "maidhood" to the main character in this fanfic (that was probably supposed to be his alter ego or something). The fanfic had really weird sex scenes and really bad written women.
Also there is this strange post where Alex is talking about how he hates his parents and how he wants to kill them and other posts where he express himself like an incel (basically the "women don't want to date me, so there's problem in women not me" mindset).
Plus the game itself is really grooming. Where high schoolers that are allegedly 18 are being killed, tortured and having their underwear seen and photographed.
Fictional is still fictional. The drawing/character has no emotions and thus cannot be traumatized and cannot be criminalized, because no one was hurt.
Of course, it is still very suspicious, especially if the author/artist makes sure to point out the age. A close eye should be kept on the person, to ensure they don't... take the next step.
Point is, you CAN'T criminalize someone for wanking toa drawing, unless the drawing is explicitly depicting a minor that is real. A characature of a real minor.
She wasn't being manipulated to think she was a grooming victim, she IS a grooming victim and they were just pointing out the reality.
They should not have gone against her wihes and broadcast it all over the web though, when she said No. That was wrong.
It’s not only adults, this 16 year old guy I was talking to…. *on discord* ….was INCREDIBLY inappropriate with me (a 12/13 year old). If it wasn’t for my friend I wouldn’t have blocked him because I thought we were friends, he said we were besties for life and shit. 🤷♀️
I know he was 16 because he over shared with me personal things, like where he lives and what school he goes to
I hope you can recover from that unhealthy environment
@Shinchiro_o Cool friend, you have to get your tracks back on rail.
Girl really hit him up with the diddler version of "Sir, this is a Wendy's"
I feel so bad for all of the artits and voice actors, all of their hard work is now wasted, i feel bad especially the content creators for have to drop the game to not he associated with this creep
They knew what type of person Alex was, 99% of what Alex is acused of has been proven and his defenses are always manipulative and easly disproven. The artist only left because this time they couldn't justify staying, he was mever good
lol, ar-tits. i don't. how could you not know this was some degenerate shit from the start?
Guess the Samus body pillow wasn’t cutting it anymore
This is the month of people fumbling easy bags
Pink Sauce clown and now Yandev
There is tons more evidence (literally decades of statements and DMs made by him) of yandere Dev being a predator besides this soo yeah... despite this being slightly ambiguous he is definitely a predator
Yeah, that makes more sense. I was getting a bit confused here.
I mean this clearly creepy and immoral behavior, but nothing that crossed the line into clear grooming without additional context.
That said im black pilled enough on this subject to think he probably was trying to groom her
Tom the kinda dude to say gesundheit instead of bless you
did you google how to spell that or did you just know?
@@MysticTechwhat it mean
@@sumrandomdeer6516 like the german version of bless you
I remember when Null talked about YanDev on an old Midnight Mad stream. There was an ~8 year old girl running defense for YanDev on the Farms to the point that Null had to call her parents on her.
Yandere Simulator’s fan base has always been young and obsessive, so (assuming this is true) there’s absolutely more victims out there.
underage people shouldn't be allowed to make a post youtube vids publicly. prove me wrong
i had an aneurism reading this haha, do you mean they shouldn't be able to comment or post vids? i agree with both this is for my own sanity lmao
Yeah, no wonder there are some many groomed kids out there, they have been handled a pc/tablet and let alone and unsupervised in the internet. The parents are guilty of this, they should pay more attention on their children.
I mean facts
Something tells me your either extremely dense, or your trolling. B/c theres no way you actually thought about that idea for longer then 2 seconds.
I agree with you, start with deleting your comment
God bless the people who get big that don't abuse their power and do shit like that. It's always talking to minors, or physcial abuse. I can't wrap my head around it.
0:22 Even Jay from the Kubz Scouts is mad at Yandere Dev. You know you're a piece of shit when you piss off Jay.
Who
@@joezilla101 Jay from the Kubz Scouts, 5 million subs and as far as I know, no controversy except for a custody dispute with an ex.
Was the only youtuber how played this game after the initial hype wave passed with a series about debunking myths and challenges.
@@thatonejoey1847 oh
@@joezilla101Yea, he was a massive mythbuster regarding the game, and practically one of the titans of the community. But, enough was enough, and he left
"Yanderedev is embarassing" and the sun is very hot
12:30 and 13:08
Oof… This really hurt to hear/read… When I was being groomed multiple people would call out my ex, and I would say similar things. I would say that it’s the others trying to manipulate, when it was really my groomer who was manipulating me into thinking he was innocent. I can’t help but wonder if Yandere Dev is doing the same with the victim in this case.
Regardless, I hope the victim is able to stay safe. While I think their wishes should be respected, at the same time I also think that it’s important to expose predators, especially if they are ones in power.
Dude said "before I continue addressing how sad I am about how I made an oopsie poopsie, i am reminded of a time that I SAVED SOMEBODY'S LIFE, but now I'm just a big ol stinker 😢"
For real!!
I can't really feel bad for Cameron. He chose to ignore previous accusations and controversies about Yandere Dev simply because he "Knew" him. While it must definitely suck my empathy ends at the "well that sucks" portion. I wish him luck in his career tho,since I admit, he makes good music.
I'm surprised he didn't bat an eye to the predatory nurse and teacher, the panty shot system, the skirt inventory system, the underaged sister lusting after her own brother.
And this is all gameplay related, no allegations here or anything.
Truly a biased source
There's no reason to feel bad, even now Cameron is still defending him, even in this video, despite him saying that it was not okay what happened, he keeps making excuses and saying that it was not that bad and could have been way worse, you can hear him trying his hardest to find a way to keep going down on Alex. Tho Tom is not really acting like something that bad happened either
@@thatonejoey1847 those are all relatively common anime tropes, so one could easily just think "well yeah it's a game that's a parody of these sorts of anime so those being present make sense" to justify it to themselves, even though it doesn't come off as parody at all in this instance.
@@DanielLopes-dh2hv His reaction is so strange and offputting. Like i get maybe reformity for yandev, but no way would i ever trust that man or like or be friends with him again. Nothing he could do would ever get rid of that doubt in my mind.
I felt like the composer had to backtrack a little to cover himself a bit, in making sure he didnt look to bad. His personal opinion doesnt really matter, because as a professional in a public matter you have to do what is “right” to have a career. Of course hes not going to support yandev publicly.
Either way i do feel bad for him. Hes been working with yandev since he was a teen, right? Grooming doesnt have to be sexual, or for sexual means
Interesting. I feel entirely differently.
From my understanding, most of Yandev's previous allegations were very embarrassing, but relatively harmless stuff in comparison to this recent allegation.
It seems like Cameron went well out of his way to do his research about Yandev to morally justify himself, even seeking out the source of an allegation from years prior.
He says that what Yandev did was bad and inexcusable, so I don't even feel he particularly downplayed it.
I think if anything, he's particularly deserving of empathy due to how much the circumstance screws him over, and how shocking the news is.
I can't understand how TomDark can put out hour long/more than an hour long high quality videos every day. Dude must have found a time loop.
4 Monster energy drinks every hour
I sell crystal meth to Tom.
He has a team for it.
@@nxmx6ix That makes sense.
It’s called being always online n having no life
I would love to have seen Yandere dev wind up on "To catch a predator."
I love how UNFEELING I am to his entire apology. I'm an empath and even the worst of people can make me cry when they show even a bit of remorse, because that's just how my heart works. I don't forgive their actions but they at least make me feel something. This dude's apology pissed me off, cause all I hear is "oh, I did so wrong, here's how it affects ME and MY work." Sure there's some reflection of how it affects others involved but it feels like a damn sob story about how he made a mistake and how badly it's gonna ruin his life and work and I could care LESS. It's not about you, Alex, it's about the minor you talked to, the people who trusted you and worked with you and how you're going to stop and improve to someday become a DECENT human being.
Terminally online behavior
Saying the thing he was trying to make is a red flag is stupid. Him arguing with literally everyone and programming like a caveman was.
I think you can still use what he was trying to make as a red flag. You have to keep in mind, he added a panty mechanic, taking pictures of other girls panties without their consent for points, and you can choose what panty you want to wear. He did this instead of adding CORE mechanics of the game. He added that to the game before adding the first rival out of the 10 he promised. But no, he prioritized that. I understand separating the art from the artist, if he made the entire game first, then I wouldn't see it as a red flag. It would be questionable, but whatever.
And the guys who made Mortal Kombat killed a bunch of people@@bluetiger2468
@@JOHNNYROCKET7036/whooosh moment
He literally had panty shots as form of currency, a pedophile teacher as a rival, and the love interests YOUNGER SISTER as a rival. I don’t know how that doesn’t scream red flag but sure man.
This dude literally called the people in his discord "sex kittens," is this really a surprise?
Alex is only sorry that he got caught. All the posturing of his regret, the "Woe is me, I'm such a bad person, I'm so pathetic" is just a show to garner affirmation because it's what he thinks he is "supposed" to do. He doesn't think he did anything wrong, but he knows everyone else thinks he did, so he's putting on a show of sorrow. Don't fall for it. He will only ever be truly sorry when he's faced real punishment in a jail cell with time to sit and stew with what he did.
I honestly don't hate him, and I don't wish harm upon him like some do. I believe he's mentally ill and needs help. I also believe that everyone can change for the better, no matter their actions (even predators). But in cases like his, he won't change unless forced to change. And it's not because he doesn't want to, it's because he can't. What he wants is affirmation, to be told that it's okay, that he isn't a bad person, that his actions weren't that bad, that his apology was enough or that he is somehow justified because of the loneliness he's gone through.
He does deserve some sympathy, but sympathy and affirmation are not the same thing. Sympathy is telling him he did a shitty thing and placing him in prison so he can't hurt himself or anyone else, but also reminding him that his life isn't over because of this. He can still move forward and become a better person and even be happy eventually but the first step for him is to own up to the awful thing he did and face his punishment, starting by turning himself in no matter how terrifying it may seem.
I truly hope he finds the help he needs, speaks with a therapist in prison and stops lying to himself to justify his actions.
The thing about Ally posting the video anyway is that she had reason to believe Jane had been coerced by Alex to use her "power" as a victim to stop the video and "save him". I believe I remember seeing screenshots of him coaching her on how to do it in a yt video. So if this was the case I can get where Ally was coming from.
he still hasn't learnt about Streisand effect
@@BarioIDLthat would imply his ego could take a hit and let something go. He can't
It still wasnt her place to do that with the knowledge she had at the time imo
Tom dark the type of guy to watch anime in secret
"being attracted to a 17 year old is nearly identical to being attracted to an 18 year old"
I agree with that statement, actually. A man over 30 flirting an 18 yo is just as creepy as flirting with a 17 yo, regardless if its legal.
What a weirdo wording it as if it's a justification smh
The unofficial rule to not be creepy is "half your age plus seven."
If he's 35 years old, the youngest he should be talking to is a 24 year old.
When I was in high school I joined yandere devs server and dmed him and we had a full conversation. He is definitely a weirdo
All the people saying that the 16yr being flirted with by 35yr old man isnt a victim must be young as well because no mature adult would have such a take. Unless they're YandereDev.
I have a 20 chain comment with one of those people.
Am I insane or was he not already seen as kind of a creepy NEET before this?
I mean, he did use gaia online b4, with his behavior in that game being similar to him now when it comes to him chatting
Nah, it’s always ok to kick a pedo while he’s down.
10 years of development, and the game doesn't look that much different from when it was first revealed.
I'm really not bragging here, but with a buddy of mine, it took us only one year to create a demo for a 3D remake of Zelda: Link's Awakening. And it was in the early 2010s, we were broke high schoolers building our games with open source software programs on potato computers. And in 10 years, this guy still hasn't managed to release even the first version of his game.
Aren't people tired of being ripped off by obvious posers?
WE COULD NEVER HAVE SEEN THIS COMING GUYS
the old claims are not "nothing burgers" at all, that dude at the end was gaslight by yanderedev to believe that but a month ago another youtuber called FunIsInfinite made a video that proves that yandere grooming minors is been a constant thing over the years, the video is called "Yandere Simulator's Open Secret" and has strong evidence yandere won't change at all.
This gives the same energy as when an old-school Minecraft TH-camr gets outed for doing something horrible.
Also, Dev's best option would be to pull a Scott Cawthon.
As someone who used to be friends with someone who was groomed…….Jane most likely doesn’t have a stable relationship with her parents which must the reason why she attempted to shield Yandere dev in the first place since in her life he must have been one of the only adults that gave her some type of comfort so of course she’d try to defend that adult and turn a blind eye to how weird their relationship is.
Y’all find it funny that this game was first dropped in 2014 and still hasn’t come out, yet the FNAF movie was announced in 2015 that everyone memed on for how it would never release is actually dropping later this month? Maybe we’ll get Half Life 3 before Yandere Simulator is ever completed.
Dev apologies sounds like an Oscar acceptance speech but somehow even less convincingly human
29:37 Of course he plans to continue development. He has nothing else. He himself once said that should he fail to finish the game, there will be a multi-year gap in his life you could point to that consists of nothing but "failed indie game development". Well, it's 2023, that gap is 9 years in length and now also includes "various online sex scandals".
He needs the wood chipper
Because he's got wood?
Tomdark the type of guy to dab the grease off his pizza using a paper cloth before eating it
And to also eat it with a knife/fork
I dont see it
@@Shellboy11yeah, i realy dont think so, buddy
@@rotinthesunturkeys toms alt found this comment 😢
@@rotinthesun We know it's you, Tom
his composure admitting that yanderedev would have liked pics of the underage girl then saying nah yeah give him a second chance is WILD
His personal opinion is definitely way worse then what he let on.
If nobody is there to help Yandev get better, he'll just end up hurting more people & kids. It's understandable why nobody wants to associate with a pedophile, but imagine how many kids could be protected if someone was there to help improve Yandev's mental state. The quick & easy solution to stopping pedos is to lock them up, but at the end of the day, they're still pedos & are willing to do harm. So, it's important that people help them become better, or else they'll keep developing disgusting thoughts inside their own bubbles.
“I could, but I haven’t saved any screenshots”
I’m not victim blaming or anything I just found that lime really funny considering we’re reading it on a screenshot
I like that he constantly says “I won’t say this to justify it” but proceeds to say it anyway as if he’s hoping someone will read that and be like “no but he’s right”. Makes me laugh and wanna vom at the same time. Just say “I won’t excuse my actions”. Stop saying the exact things you say you’re not gonna say 💀 “I won’t say it’s out of context, if only you had the context” you said those exact words. Saying “I won’t say it” doesn’t distract front eh fact you literally DID just say it right there
wow who could have seen that coming
Tom is just scared of liking anime and turning into a full on weeb
he already has the appearance and voice and living conditions, all that's left is the interests
Never go full anime!
38:27 Bijuu Mike is a good creator, that was on the pulse on this game, up until this event.
The Incel Yandere Dev
vs
The GigaChad Scott Cawthon.
did- did he just try to mathematically okay to be attracted to 17yr olds XD
Reminds me of a joke how 16 is closer to 18.
Cameron is honestly such a good friend, distancing himself from alex until he gets better for more incentive