Whether you use a remote collar or not, comparing 1970s remote collars to what we have today is like comparing a rotary phone to the latest iPhone. Look at any remote collar technology advancement, almost 100% of the innovation is to 1) offer much finer tuning between levels and 2) finding ways to make the collar itself more comfortable for the dog. Awesome.
I have dogtra , educator and Martin System .. dogtra and educator is a great Ecollar no complaints , I had to upgrade to wing connections because of my GSD longer hair. Martin’s Chameleon is on a different level with perfect skin connection which fixed all my problems. Programming stim levels can be confusing at first since you can choose stim levels from 1 to 250,000 but once you figure it out it’s a game changer . Little pricey but didn’t disappoint yet and I’ve had it for over a year now. Martin has great customer service.
@@syn4588 is it though? I have heard bad reviews about durability of the collars. Im very hesitant to spend that amount of money if it can be unreliable due to durability. Ive heard screws come out of the prong parts pretty easy. Can we have the cons of this device as well?
Thank you for the video. I love the idea of this collar sent this video to my breaded/trainer to ask their opinion. They said they have heard good things, but have not used it. Seems worth it to me for us to try it out. Great content.
I WANT one. But, it's expensive. So, it's on my wishlist. I'm a semi-retired professional dog trainer and have a 2.5 year old now that still needs advanced training. I'd love to use this.
The extender appears to have a number of benefits. My only concern would be going back to single point contacts as I’ve been using the comfort pads with the mini educator for my Doberman. The Martin Systems single point contacts seem a bit too long for the short fur of a Doberman.
How many finger kicks can you add to a collar? I have 3 already (three dogs) but I'd like to possibly add more so my partner can also be in control with finger kicks. I wanted to ask before I buy more and I can't find information. Thank you!
Oh my god, $900 for an ecollar? My mini-educator was $100 on sale, I'll stick to that lol. But simply for the finger button, I may consider dropping almost $1,000 on an ecollar. That is definitely a game changer.
I just got the e collar fob as a starting point but will get a dogtra eventually. I won’t ever be able to afford but I’m a tech nerd and your videos helped with Denver in the group
I might just take the plunge with the chameleon. Wondering about sizing though. My dog's neck is 17". Does that mean medium or large? probably a foolish question, but i figured you would know, thanks!
I saw a video a while back where you modified an e-collar to work with a prong collar similar to this tool, but I can't seem to find it on your channel
I'm curious on learning how to use them as a tool for training. This far we use it only to keep the dogs with the property lines or to come when called. They run free but have been going outside the boundaries lately, so we use this to keep them from straying. Note I have used E shock but find the vibration collar workers very well on the healers. The teen malagator needs E collar. Vibe is a fail on her.
Hi. I’m a member in your website. Great material. However, I have a question about e collars. Does it solve dog to dog aggression? My dog is aggressive and can kill or harm any dog. And I always see a warning on e collar manuals. Never to use it on an aggressive dog. What’s is your opinion? An IGP dog trainer told me only e collar will solve my dog’s problem
I know a couple of people in real life with these. I asked them why their dogs were wearing dogtras? It’s always on the fritz! They seem to have some pretty extreme quality control issues. Or it’s just not designed for reliability. Was this a sponsored video? Robert said in comments he also had quality issues with one of them, but he was able to get support being an influencer and all.
Hi Robert, I wrote to you on your website contact page but haven't heard back. Wondering if you know an E collar trainer in ABQ, NM. My large Service Animal started having some behavior issues at 5 years old. Long story, but I have Mobility issues and don't trust my own reaction time to self train. I may be coming out to Calif. soon as well. I grew up there and need to go anyway. Thanks
This is such a fascinating collar. I've been doing urban mushing with my dog and while he is reliable on his commands, I still habitually put his Dogtra 280c on to make sure that if anything were to change I am able to reenforce the commands I ask for. The only qualm I have about that is struggling to snag my receiver with all the movement. Having a 'hands free' feature is something I've been lightly looking into, and the fact this one is programmable is very interesting. That, and the distribution of the contacts. I actually had to order Dogtra's enhanced comfort pad for my unit because the solitary pair of prongs was causing discomfort. Thankfully the pad solved it, but I wish that was something they had included alongside the collar/developed sooner. This is definitely a unit I'll be looking into should his current unit fail or become especially outdated. Thank you for making a review of it! I always try to look for insight on equipment to better understand the functions and reliability of it 🙂
@@heatherhupp7051 I like the ability to switch the collar out if it needs to be replaced. And the micro b has a little better range. Been using these collars since the first one.... love them!
Something to add. The Martin System operates on a non-approved frequency in the U.S. , and may be susceptible to interference, specially from the 800mhz Public Safety spectrum.
Actually found this out from Martin System. “The public safety spectrum ends at 869MHz and we are above that so no issues. In our interference testing we tested up to the 6th harmonic at 5.217Ghz as well as additional testing throughout the 800MHz band with no effect on our transmitter. In addition, keeping our power level below the 3 meter emission limits of 200 microvolt/ meter ensures we do not interfere with anyone else.”
Dude... It's a thousand dollars!! I'm not saying it's not worth it.. But, that's allot. Could you tell us more about who this is and isn't for before I take the plunge.. Thanks 🙏
there are so many. first off I like the quality of the collar and remote. I prefer European made over asian made. The quality of the stimulations and the consistency. I can totally customize the settings within the app.. (a complete rabbit hole of amazing technical control). It has skin contact measurement which no other collar has. The finger kick alone is a game changer. The size is awesome, the extender is the only thing like it (I used to modify my own collars similarly). Overall, its a lot more expensive, but I think 100% worth it. I prefer the micro b because of range and the fact that if I need to replace the collar, its cheaper to replace the micro B than the whole chameleon.
I’ve never had that happen. The magnet needs to be held close to the collar to deactivate. Not sure how that would happen if the dog has the ball in his mouth
I had a problem before even using the collar and they wanted me to send at my expense to some guy in Missouri to be repaired and then send back at my expense. Luckily the dealer intervened and solved the problem. Now the finger kick broke after a two months of light use and suppose I will have to purchase another.
My God man, I'm usually not surprised by the high end price range of quality products... But this thing seems a bit outrageous. The features seem amazing, why wouldn't every manufacturer add some kind of indicator light for continuity or lack thereof. I get that this is probably the best, but it's like 5 times the price of some other collars that are top tier. Nothing insane about the technology either...
Holy crap! $800 to $1200 for an E-Collar?! You have got to be kidding me! No thank you! Honestly, this has to be the worst thing about your videos. Your recommendations are always extremely expensive and it seems like you are entirely out of touch with your viewers. Not all of us are rich and can afford to spend thousands per month on our dogs like you seem to do.
If you can’t spend that much than you can’t own a dog, seriously the average expense per year for one dog( German Shepard) is around $6,000 per year. That’s just an average
I said the best one money can buy. I recommend products I like and use. Perhaps you missed the fact that I showed how to make a modified version for free. Also perhaps you missed the fact that all of my videos on instruction are FREE.
@@alipetuniashow If you can't buy a Bugatti Veyron then you shouldn't own a car. Seriously the cost of insurance, the liability, and services/parts in cars are insane. Meanwhile, if you bought something on a budget you would've had leftover money to pay for all of those things. I'm not complaining about the video mind you, Im complaining about your faulty logic.
Whether you use a remote collar or not, comparing 1970s remote collars to what we have today is like comparing a rotary phone to the latest iPhone. Look at any remote collar technology advancement, almost 100% of the innovation is to 1) offer much finer tuning between levels and 2) finding ways to make the collar itself more comfortable for the dog. Awesome.
I have dogtra , educator and Martin System .. dogtra and educator is a great Ecollar no complaints , I had to upgrade to wing connections because of my GSD longer hair. Martin’s Chameleon is on a different level with perfect skin connection which fixed all my problems. Programming stim levels can be confusing at first since you can choose stim levels from 1 to 250,000 but once you figure it out it’s a game changer . Little pricey but didn’t disappoint yet and I’ve had it for over a year now. Martin has great customer service.
The ring alone seems to make that collar stand above all the rest. Thanks for sharing.
I've used the Martin Extender with feather contacts and E-Collar tech for a couple years and it's worked very well.
This collar seems great but 1500 bucks then another 400 for the extender? C’mon son
I agree. Cabral is good, however, I'm realizing his channel os mainly for rich people, snobs and celebrities.
@@barbarawarren9443 Why are you surprised that the best ecolllar isn’t cheap?
Thanks you saved me 5 minutes.
@@syn4588 is it though? I have heard bad reviews about durability of the collars. Im very hesitant to spend that amount of money if it can be unreliable due to durability. Ive heard screws come out of the prong parts pretty easy. Can we have the cons of this device as well?
Why do you say snobs? @@barbarawarren9443
Thank you for the video. I love the idea of this collar sent this video to my breaded/trainer to ask their opinion. They said they have heard good things, but have not used it. Seems worth it to me for us to try it out. Great content.
Glad it was helpful! Use my link to purchase if you decide.
I love the features you discussed but no way am I paying $1300 for one training collar. Maybe if I made a living training I’d give it a shot.
I WANT one. But, it's expensive. So, it's on my wishlist. I'm a semi-retired professional dog trainer and have a 2.5 year old now that still needs advanced training. I'd love to use this.
I didn't know this collar existed! Much, much better design! I know what I'll be buying next time
The extender appears to have a number of benefits. My only concern would be going back to single point contacts as I’ve been using the comfort pads with the mini educator for my Doberman. The Martin Systems single point contacts seem a bit too long for the short fur of a Doberman.
How many finger kicks can you add to a collar? I have 3 already (three dogs) but I'd like to possibly add more so my partner can also be in control with finger kicks. I wanted to ask before I buy more and I can't find information. Thank you!
I am having a hard time finding information on sizing. I have a shikoku with a 16-17" neck and cant decide if medium or large would be best.
Medium
Oh my god, $900 for an ecollar?
My mini-educator was $100 on sale, I'll stick to that lol.
But simply for the finger button, I may consider dropping almost $1,000 on an ecollar. That is definitely a game changer.
I felt the EXACT same way
You can get mini-educators with a finger button now.
@@keithw203 I mean this wholeheartedly...this is the greatest information I've received all year
@@mckenziejameson8483 you’re welcome.
@@keithw203 Thanks for the info sir. Going to look into it today and buy one.
I just got the e collar fob as a starting point but will get a dogtra eventually. I won’t ever be able to afford but I’m a tech nerd and your videos helped with Denver in the group
Where do you get those remote control and the electric caller
bit.ly/38lVQQm
@@RobertCabralDogs @ how much are your ecallar s
I am thinking to buy it for my German shepherd, can you advice me what size of colar to buy? Medium or large? Thanks
Measure your dogs neck. Probably large. I use the micro b and get the extender separate. Use my link so they know I sent you.
bit.ly/38lVQQm
Thank you for your response, do you know what the difference between micro B and III B? Which one is better?
I might just take the plunge with the chameleon. Wondering about sizing though. My dog's neck is 17". Does that mean medium or large? probably a foolish question, but i figured you would know, thanks!
id go with medium
@@RobertCabralDogs thanks so much! It looks like a great system.
What is good for a thick double coat like a golden retriever?
this collar. comes with longer prongs and you can order even longer.. check the link: bit.ly/38lVQQm
Waterproof 💧??? for field lab training ? What range? How far?
No collar will work when completely immersed. This video explains more : th-cam.com/video/bRlwi4-HUDo/w-d-xo.html
I saw a video a while back where you modified an e-collar to work with a prong collar similar to this tool, but I can't seem to find it on your channel
I remember that video and would rather do that... I’d love to upgrade BUT it’s around $2K with the currency conversion. 😳
@@brianlofton2489 Exactly lol
Actually under $1k
th-cam.com/video/GsUvrtNN2J0/w-d-xo.html
@@RobertCabralDogs thank you so much
Can u make some more videos of how to use it..... For retrieving and rest all commads
You don’t teach your dog commands with an e-collar. Your dog must at least know the basic commands before you start e-collar training.
You can actually teach a dog using an ECollar. Not a method I teach, but it can be Used as such.
I Agree would love a video on this on your dogs. And share that Finger remote🙌🏼♥️🐾🐾
If you don't know how to use it, then don't use it
I'm curious on learning how to use them as a tool for training.
This far we use it only to keep the dogs with the property lines or to come when called.
They run free but have been going outside the boundaries lately, so we use this to keep them from straying.
Note I have used E shock but find the vibration collar workers very well on the healers.
The teen malagator needs E collar.
Vibe is a fail on her.
i need a collar upgrade for my sportdog. collar system.
I like the hat with the Mal on the side. Do you have that one available for sale?
Yes. robertcabral.com/shop
Make a video of how to program the stimulation setting!how to find the right setting
Hi. I’m a member in your website. Great material. However, I have a question about e collars. Does it solve dog to dog aggression? My dog is aggressive and can kill or harm any dog. And I always see a warning on e collar manuals. Never to use it on an aggressive dog. What’s is your opinion? An IGP dog trainer told me only e collar will solve my dog’s problem
it can, but the approach should be done by a pro. it can really mess up a dog if not properly done, just like any training done with reactivity...
That is like asking if a clicker solves aggression. It's a tool. How you use it is up to the trainer.
Do you think this collar would work on a Belgian Sheepdog with a big ruff?
Yes
I know a couple of people in real life with these. I asked them why their dogs were wearing dogtras? It’s always on the fritz! They seem to have some pretty extreme quality control issues. Or it’s just not designed for reliability.
Was this a sponsored video? Robert said in comments he also had quality issues with one of them, but he was able to get support being an influencer and all.
Not sponsored. I only have snores products I believe in 100%. I know many people who have them too and NOT ONE COMPLAINT
Those are very nice, when training beagles I use the Garmin GPS collars.
?Do you know the range on those collars?
I believe 3/4 mile.
Thank you
Hi Robert, I wrote to you on your website contact page but haven't heard back. Wondering if you know an E collar trainer in ABQ, NM. My large Service Animal started having some behavior issues at 5 years old. Long story, but I have Mobility issues and don't trust my own reaction time to self train. I may be coming out to Calif. soon as well. I grew up there and need to go anyway. Thanks
This is such a fascinating collar. I've been doing urban mushing with my dog and while he is reliable on his commands, I still habitually put his Dogtra 280c on to make sure that if anything were to change I am able to reenforce the commands I ask for. The only qualm I have about that is struggling to snag my receiver with all the movement. Having a 'hands free' feature is something I've been lightly looking into, and the fact this one is programmable is very interesting. That, and the distribution of the contacts. I actually had to order Dogtra's enhanced comfort pad for my unit because the solitary pair of prongs was causing discomfort. Thankfully the pad solved it, but I wish that was something they had included alongside the collar/developed sooner. This is definitely a unit I'll be looking into should his current unit fail or become especially outdated. Thank you for making a review of it! I always try to look for insight on equipment to better understand the functions and reliability of it 🙂
Consider the extender and use it on your Dogtra.
Question for you. Does the martin systems k9 remote work with dogtra or only rhe martin systems collar?
Thank you so much for the information
What is the difference between Micro 3 and Chameleon 3 ?
Chameleon is one piece micro b is separated collar from extender. I prefer micro b
@@RobertCabralDogs why do you prefer the micro b over the chameleon 3?
@@heatherhupp7051 I like the ability to switch the collar out if it needs to be replaced. And the micro b has a little better range. Been using these collars since the first one.... love them!
Thank you so much
THIS IS A GOOD GREAT COLLAR. , THE MINUS ONLY THE PRICE $1400..?????
Can I use it on a pomeranian? was looking at the mirco educator for them.
If you want to spend $1,300+ on an e-collar for a Pomeranian 😂
You can use the micro b and the xs extender. Should work.
That’s a fancy stick you’ve got there!
Something to add. The Martin System operates on a non-approved frequency in the U.S. , and may be susceptible to interference, specially from the 800mhz Public Safety spectrum.
How might that affect the workings of this?
Actually found this out from Martin System.
“The public safety spectrum ends at
869MHz and we are above
that so no issues. In our
interference testing we
tested up to the 6th
harmonic at 5.217Ghz as
well as additional testing
throughout the 800MHz
band with no effect on our
transmitter. In addition,
keeping our power level
below the 3 meter emission
limits of 200 microvolt/
meter ensures we do not
interfere with anyone else.”
It will not interfere. Used their products for years. Never an issue.
Dude... It's a thousand dollars!!
I'm not saying it's not worth it..
But, that's allot.
Could you tell us more about who this is and isn't for before I take the plunge..
Thanks
🙏
there are so many. first off I like the quality of the collar and remote. I prefer European made over asian made. The quality of the stimulations and the consistency. I can totally customize the settings within the app.. (a complete rabbit hole of amazing technical control). It has skin contact measurement which no other collar has. The finger kick alone is a game changer. The size is awesome, the extender is the only thing like it (I used to modify my own collars similarly). Overall, its a lot more expensive, but I think 100% worth it. I prefer the micro b because of range and the fact that if I need to replace the collar, its cheaper to replace the micro B than the whole chameleon.
@@RobertCabralDogsThank you😎 🙏
What are some other good collars besides martin systems and dogtra would you recommend?
Always good info!🌀💚🌀
my mcrs magnet ball would deactivate the coller when I rewarded my dog
I’ve never had that happen. The magnet needs to be held close to the collar to deactivate. Not sure how that would happen if the dog has the ball in his mouth
I use tri tronics sports
What about your second favorite collar?? 😊
Garmin Delta Sport xc but they stopped making it.
Why didn’t you tell me the price before
The collar is great. But the support of Martin system is crap.
Actually I’d argue that. I had an issue with one of mine and had a replacement within a week. Never got that service from any company.
I had a problem before even using the collar and they wanted me to send at my expense to some guy in Missouri to be repaired and then send back at my expense. Luckily the dealer intervened and solved the problem. Now the finger kick broke after a two months of light use and suppose I will have to purchase another.
I was excited and then I seen the price - wow i cannot afford one of these, 800 bones
My God man, I'm usually not surprised by the high end price range of quality products... But this thing seems a bit outrageous. The features seem amazing, why wouldn't every manufacturer add some kind of indicator light for continuity or lack thereof. I get that this is probably the best, but it's like 5 times the price of some other collars that are top tier. Nothing insane about the technology either...
Unfortunately the price isn’t do-able for probably most of us.
Expensive as hell
PS. My dog is a sable working gsd.
This is VERY VERY expensive more then 1000 euros so about 1500$. This is more then a collar with GPS.
Actually under $1000
Almost 900 dollars. Yikes!
1500 for a e collar
The price 😭😭😭
Holy crap! $800 to $1200 for an E-Collar?! You have got to be kidding me! No thank you!
Honestly, this has to be the worst thing about your videos. Your recommendations are always extremely expensive and it seems like you are entirely out of touch with your viewers. Not all of us are rich and can afford to spend thousands per month on our dogs like you seem to do.
You seem to do nothing but complain on you tube. I hope this negative energy doesn't rub off on your pup.
If you can’t spend that much than you can’t own a dog, seriously the average expense per year for one dog( German Shepard) is around $6,000 per year. That’s just an average
I said the best one money can buy. I recommend products I like and use. Perhaps you missed the fact that I showed how to make a modified version for free. Also perhaps you missed the fact that all of my videos on instruction are FREE.
This sounds like a you problem.
@@alipetuniashow If you can't buy a Bugatti Veyron then you shouldn't own a car.
Seriously the cost of insurance, the liability, and services/parts in cars are insane.
Meanwhile, if you bought something on a budget you would've had leftover money to pay for all of those things.
I'm not complaining about the video mind you, Im complaining about your faulty logic.
Who in the world can afford that?
All I can say is anybody that needs a ECollar for their dog, does not need the dog ID10T!!! Stop promoting this kind of crap!!!
Not your place to judge. Do you need a leash?
Infomercial (Paid)
Why the bleep is it so expensive? 1000€+ is only for the rich
Collars way to expensive
Tb 1500 for a shock collar 😂😂😂 gtfoh I might as well get a trainer at that point Smdh