3.4-1 Principles of Reliable Data Transfer (Part 1)

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  • Video presentation: "Transport layer: Principles of Reliable Data Transfer (Part 1)." Protocol mechanisms for reliable data transfer (rdt). Building an rdt protocol.
    Computer networks class.
    Jim Kurose
    Textbook reading: Section 3.1, Computer Networking: a Top-Down Approach (8th edition), J.F. Kurose, K.W. Ross, Pearson, 2020.
    See gaia.cs.umass.edu/kurose_ross for more open student resources.

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  • @fsnaps
    @fsnaps หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Jim always smiling, makes the lessons so much more interesting

  • @abcde9421
    @abcde9421 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    17:21
    Worth listening to for a 100 times.

    • @jaronajohnson4412
      @jaronajohnson4412 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      always makes me laugh :D

    • @eDog377
      @eDog377 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      worth the wait

    • @VikasSharma05
      @VikasSharma05 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really worth the wait. Don't know why, jar jar binks just flashed in my mind.

    • @sheesshoaib3816
      @sheesshoaib3816 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its like chandler bing's blah balh blahh

  • @ahmedalhallag3338
    @ahmedalhallag3338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I can't believe that the father of all computer networks papers and courses has only 1.1k subscribers :(

    • @vishweshgk6752
      @vishweshgk6752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ong 😩

    • @daroboro5137
      @daroboro5137 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      10k after 1 year, so it's not so bad

    • @alkskillz7335
      @alkskillz7335 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your generation were just lacking. Dw GenZs here to fix yall 😂

  • @asjadsalahuddin5918
    @asjadsalahuddin5918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Made it so easy to understand , great work.

  • @Felipe-53
    @Felipe-53 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Thank you for blessing us with such well crafted lessons!

  • @ricp
    @ricp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent lesson, thanks a lot, Professor!

  • @t.sathwik5708
    @t.sathwik5708 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    explained the concepts of the text book in a fun and easy manner

  • @PenguinMaths
    @PenguinMaths 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great series!

  • @hitarthmukundraykanakia3137
    @hitarthmukundraykanakia3137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This is pure gold!! Thank you so much Professor Ross :)

    • @advaitamallik7703
      @advaitamallik7703 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      *Kurose. Ross is a different dude.

    • @suyashmisra7406
      @suyashmisra7406 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He's a little confused but he's got the spirit

  • @MayCodeGuide
    @MayCodeGuide 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    if anyone like me looking for a summery: The video discusses the challenges of reliable communication over an unreliable channel, exploring simple and increasingly realistic channel models. It goes on to explain the development of a reliable data transfer protocol, including the use of checksums and sequence numbers, and differentiates between unidirectional and bidirectional communication. The protocol's finite state machines and operations are also illustrated.

  • @SahilKumar-tj5lk
    @SahilKumar-tj5lk ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome !! Thanks a lot Professor

  • @starless9
    @starless9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    21:48 when receiver is in "wait for 1 from below" state and receives a packet from sender with sequence 0 it means... that the sender was looking for the ACK sequence 0 packet from receiver but it was corrupted in transmission. So the sender resends the sequence 0 packet and on receiving it uncorrupted receiver will resend the ACK sequence 0 packet so sender can move on to "wait for 0 from below"

    • @erayatsz3801
      @erayatsz3801 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks bro that was very helpful

    • @LK-xq2jy
      @LK-xq2jy หลายเดือนก่อน

      you are smart

    • @jianminglin4155
      @jianminglin4155 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the explaining. Not sure if I got it right, but I think your last sentence should be "So the sender resends the sequence 0 packet and on receiving it uncorrupted, the receiver will resend the ACK sequence 0 packet so the sender can move on to "wait for 1 from above"". (The event notcorrupt(rcvpkt) && isACK(rcvpkt) occurs, so the sender moves on from the "wait for ACK or NAK 0" state to the "wait for call 1 from above" state.)

  • @janetan9620
    @janetan9620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

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  • @compscienthusiast
    @compscienthusiast 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really appreciate breaking this down into FSMs and getting a better understanding of this process.
    However, I'm wondering how the receiver would know that the checksum is valid, and what would determine a non-corrupt checksum. I've used a checksum comparison in python before in the past but that relied on the sender receiving a packet back and then comparing that the sent and received packets have the same checksum.
    Using that logic, I'm wondering how we can determine that a packet is valid with a checksum if we don't know what to compare the checksum against. What would I be missing?

    • @starless9
      @starless9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Granted I'm new to this topic but I'd think the checksum would be generated independently on the receiver side to compare against the checksum in the packet from sender. This could be done using a hash function similar to what is used with hash tables, applied on the data in the entire packet. With large enough prime numbers used in the hash function so the probability that an uncorrupted packet and corrupted packet will generate the same hash value/checksum will be very low. There is the possibility that the checksum in the packet from sender will be corrupted but that just causes a retransmit...

  • @SantoshKumar-lz2ti
    @SantoshKumar-lz2ti ปีที่แล้ว

    Question:
    at 13:40, for the sender fsm when the sender goes from 'wait for nak or ack' to 'wait for call from above' there is a event rat_rcv(rcvpkt),, does this mean the receiver sends a ACK/NAk messgae in the form of pkt ??

    • @christio02
      @christio02 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, from the state "sender is waiting for ACK/NAK" from receiver, it only goes to "wait for call from above" when it receives an ACK from the receiver. If it receives a NAK, it will send a packet to the receiver and still be in in the "waiting for ACK/NAK" until it gets an ACK

  • @zakariaabdi1818
    @zakariaabdi1818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can bits be flipped ; Error with the hardware link layer(fibre optic for example)?

    • @abcde9421
      @abcde9421 ปีที่แล้ว

      During link transmission , and during storage in router memory

  • @SantoshKumar-lz2ti
    @SantoshKumar-lz2ti ปีที่แล้ว

    ar 22:03
    if it sends ACK , then the receiver will be like, now i should send next pkt so 1 is lost....is the sequnece 01010101?

  • @hayotkamchiev
    @hayotkamchiev 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He has great taste in movies :)

  • @nitheshravikumar9462
    @nitheshravikumar9462 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why do we send the packet through the unreliable channel ?

    • @bryan0x05
      @bryan0x05 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We can't just hope the channel is reliable every time, we need to be prepared to deal with an unreliable channel. This is how you compensate for that.

  • @LeeLee-vk2dz
    @LeeLee-vk2dz ปีที่แล้ว

    Save my life

  • @mario999kart
    @mario999kart ปีที่แล้ว

    In refer to important digital reliable data transfer, like digital money, value and important information (documents, ownership rights) exchange in the same setting, doesn't blockchain and PoW fit in here perfectly?

  • @dev_jun
    @dev_jun ปีที่แล้ว

    🥰

  • @vishweshgk6752
    @vishweshgk6752 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir I am big fan 🥰

  • @nadiahalmutairy5350
    @nadiahalmutairy5350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    UDP is reliable protocol or not?

    • @DigaDupSuck
      @DigaDupSuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      unreliable

    • @thinkos6730
      @thinkos6730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Protocol itself is unreliable. But you can make adjustments just as in the video on the application Layer Level to implement a reliable Service

  • @cby1189
    @cby1189 ปีที่แล้ว

    goat

  • @ashishroy4326
    @ashishroy4326 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi GIT students, one night before exam

  • @delee8450
    @delee8450 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i hope i find it earlier

  • @devmahad
    @devmahad 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    rdt 1 - 2

  • @youtuberemo9241
    @youtuberemo9241 ปีที่แล้ว

    :)

  • @karanpreetsingh5966
    @karanpreetsingh5966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chemistry is you touching my arm and setting fire to my mind.

  • @coolalgorithms
    @coolalgorithms 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NAK or NACK? I thought it was NACK

  • @user-wg4ms3xk3p
    @user-wg4ms3xk3p 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @SantoshKumar-lz2ti
    @SantoshKumar-lz2ti ปีที่แล้ว

    ar 22:03
    if it sends ACK , then the receiver will be like, now i should send next pkt so 1 is lost....is the sequnece 01010101?

  • @SantoshKumar-lz2ti
    @SantoshKumar-lz2ti ปีที่แล้ว

    ar 22:03
    if it sends ACK , then the receiver will be like, now i should send next pkt so 1 is lost....is the sequnece 01010101?