@@liamoconlocha3264you mean like how the IDF has proved itself to be a liar, not providing evidence into any of their “allegations” how they tried to manipulate the days of the week in Arabic into their propaganda definitions, 40 “beheaded babies” to which no factual evidence exists to the claim
How did he put his career on the line ? It’s all about optics … it’s all good for these TH-camrs .. they are no different from MSM… start your own channel and see how your brain works ..
Fantastic work Novara! I couldn’t decide whether Douglas Murray is a racist or an idiot until I realised that to be a racist you also had to be an idiot. It’s like a 2 for 1 deal. Owen on the other hand has an unwavering moral compass and he uses it impartially. Exactly the opposite of the racist idiot Douglas Murray.
I think you've just betrayed your own thought process which is illogical and resolves to name calling ... I had no idea the Education System had got this bad.
What's intelligence have to do with compassion, morality or ethics? Plenty of educated "intelligent people" in US UK Isr, the leading axis of state and state sponsored endless terror against people without much standing military if at all. From Vietnam to Gaza to Africa to the Americas and beyond.
🤣 Oh my! You do know that the Malays themselves were brutal Imperialists (started as pirates) that colonised the Malay peninsular (and other regions). There are few English people in the Malay peninsular (so not very good at colonising then). The Malay people however have set up a permanent colony there.
@@frankyyaggabot6222 The region was called the Malay Archipelago, right? The Malay people are genetically linked to the indigenous Semang and Jakun people. How can Malays colonise their own territories?
The fact that Hamas are committing war crimes - on whatever scale - should not mean that Israel, or any other nation, therefore get a free pass to do the same - which is what the mainstream seem to be arguing for.
If Islam ever triumphs in the UK, Owen Jones will be a dead man. In that regard, you cannot trust him to tell truth to third parties, as he cannot even tell that truth to himself.
@@stephenhowe4107 Owen Jones has stated FACTS - 15,000 civilians killed by IDF, 6000+ are children, Israel has withdrawn water, gas and electricity from Gaza
@@stephenhowe4107 He said what he saw and what he didn't see .. what's wrong with that?? Why didn't he have a chance to replay the video to be sure of what he had seen?
No matter what they do now and flip it around million times, Israelis lost it when it comes to people’s opinions about them because nothing, NOTHING can justify those horror images we’ve been watching from Gaza
Douglas Murray sounds like a spokesman for the Israeli government.i wouldnt waste my time listening to his filth and lies you carry on Owen mate you doing a great job.thank you
"I have no mercy or compassion in me for a society that will crush people, and then penalise them for not being able to stand up un-der the weight." - Malcolm X
Owen jones is the bravest journalist telling the truth. I salute his braveness. It doesn’t matter where you stand. It matters that innocent people are dying
So these people are so traumatized by this 43 minute film… Have they watched even four minutes of footage of dead and burnt babies being pulled out of rubble in Gaza? Are they aware of what Israel is doing to the people in Gaza? There are things I will never be able to unsee. I saw things that brought me down on my knees crying feeling completely helpless and alienated. I am so tired of everyone being so outraged for what happened on October 7 and not having an ounce of concern for every day that has happened since. Where are these journalists? If they are this sensitive, they need to see what Al Jazeera is showing the world.
Gideon Levy said in the last 15 years Israeli news/TV do not show any footage of the destruction in Gaza. Zilch. In that 15 years over 6000 Gazans have been killed, including 2000 children.(this is before Oct 7). Israelis hardly know anything about this. Oct 7 atrocities are played on Israeli TV 24x7. So of course they don't care about the dead Gazans. Now this same technique is being used for the Western world. Unfortunately for Israel you have outlets like Al Jaz and others contesting it.
when it rains there is evidence that it did rain, wetness and traces of rain drops for example. the issue is there was no footage (evidence) to support the wild claims I'D'F is claiming, such as the babies situation.
Please Owen take legal action against Douglas, the man is way out of line. Do not stop telling us the truth Owen, you and Michael are shining stars in the darkness of our present world.
Hmm last case I followed ended with cost going to the litigation ...total cost was $3.5 million dollars and they lost. But they did have a iron ore billionaire sponsoring them.
You are a class act! Owen Jones haters are going to hate, keep doing your job, you do it very honestly and well. I commend you both for your bravery and honesty and hard work! You’ve been tirelessly reporting on everything without a break or reprieve and doing such an outstanding job and keeping your heads clear throughout 🙏❤️🇵🇸
For what it's worth, I generally deeply dislike Jones, but was impressed by how fair and honest he was in this video. No hyperbole, no name calling, no simplistic demonization. I didn't see him employing any tactics here, and _definitely_ saw Murray doing so, in so many ways. Sometimes it isn't about 'haters gonna hate'; sometimes it's just a matter of being honest & people seeing that. I have to admit, when I saw the thumbnail, and the way it chose stills of Jones looking so ott earnest & heartfelt, and Murray looking like a demon, I was expecting emotionally driven propaganda, and I'm very happy to have been proved wrong.
First lie. Yes, a lie. Israel is notconducting a war on Gaza, and he knows this. The war, is on Hamas. The hospitals that were bombed were sheltering munition complexes and operational Hamas. And you know this. Hmas picks s a fight and cries when Israel stands uo to the bully.
@@HelenWA I don't think you understand the issue here. Women and children are not free in Islamic states. Don't engage in issues that are above your 🧠-grade, you'll just end up supporting things that are immoral.
@@Gonken88 the absolute desire you have to believe in your demonizing image of others is quite frightening and screams superiority/savior complex. I can't imagine having to imagine other cultures torturing THEIR OWN women and kids just to feel justified in hating them and wishing ill upon their people.
I remember when he was doing an interview on the safe side (ofc) of the conflict and he heard an explosion you could see his face going white what a "brave" man.
I would love to see a debate between Dr Finkelstein and Doug Murray to see how ignorant and dishonest Murray is and he needs a history lesson on humanity and truth.
Did you literally say that after Owen's followers/advocates are emptied of contempt there is nothing left but faeces? That could have been an inadvertent truism that slipped out but I'm an optimistic sort and will assume you were not aware of what it is you were saying! @@ap2868
If you research the military support we have given Israel since 1959 you will be shocked to learn it has averaged $5.2 million per day ($123,746,000,000 or an average of $1.9 billion per year)! With that kind of continuing funding, why does Israel need ANY of the $14 billion now being requested??
You guys seemed to struggle with the point of "why Israel provide energy to Gaza?". That is because when Gaza tried to build it's own energy generators Israel targeted and destroyed them as it doesn't want Gaza to be self-sufficient. They want to control all the inputs and outputs of Gaza so Gaza have to rely on Israel for everything and if Israel wants to deprive Gaza from their needs they can easily do so.
Also as an occupier The Fourth Geneva Convention mandates that an occupying power is responsible for the welfare of the civilian population in an occupied territory, ensuring their protection, prohibiting population transfers, and maintaining their basic needs without displacing them. Is.ra.el has broken all the above laws.
@zeddione8770 The Arab governments in the region won't do much, because they see Hamas as Iran's proxy. They want Israel to destroy Hamas and Hezbollah to weaken Iran's power projection in the Levant.
I support 1$rael and Netanyahu! For removing their masks and showing the world how much Palestine needs our support. And thanks to all the good people in 1$rael that uphold the truth. 🙏🏾 Blessings, Everyone
Owens work has been invaluable. He includes citations, sources, names, dates and statistics. A lot more than I've gotten from Ben Shapiro and Doug Murray.
Yeah feel the same way, very few people I dislike online but I really can’t stand the guy, he has a dedicated following and I don’t understand how lol.
Douglas Murray thinking the Germans weren’t so bad compared to Hamas is such a wild take. Well, they may have killed millions, but at least some of them felt bad about it.
@@helenswan705 well, it seems Owen Jones has had enough and is giving it some consideration. I think Michael and Novara might also consider it. These are serious accusations. I for one would contribute to a crowd fund for legal fees etc
ME TOO! I'm here on TH-cam; trying to avoid confimation bias. Check these out if you already haven't: -Katie Halper -DemocracyNOW!, -Trevor Noah's Daily Show - past videos - can see the pattern! (2018) -Al Jazeera (Prof. Marc Lamont's interviews are wonderful; he was fired by CNN b/c of speech he gave at the UN, saying Western nations should boycott & divest from Israel -LBC (Sangita Myska’s interviews!- doesn’t let guests of the hook with grace & iron fist); DemocracyNOW; -DemocracyNOW! . . . I'm sure there're others I'm not aware of. BUT still check in on mainstream to compare/contrast. Check AP, Reuters, PBS first; then BBC, BBCWorld, World News, MSNBC (disappointed), CNN, ...even Fox "News" for about 30 mintues (all I can stomach.)
Yes because describing Hamas as they describe themselves in their charter ie Isis and in their actions takes away the leftist narrative of simple freedom fighters in a land dispute. Go and drink your milk.
That may not be prudent. While I have also switched to Novara and Owen Jones as my main UK news sources, you still should keep abreast what other outlets are saying. You can't fight the enemy if you don't know what they are saying and thinking.
The fact that so many politicians and right wing people are demonizing Owen Jones for just his job makes me support him more because honestly I'm sick of the lies of the Mainstream media
I'm sick of his report always one sided,he not even saw the other tragedy happens in Palestine,he just reporting about what's going on between Isarahell and Hamas,he always on sided report,not amazing at all 😂😂😂😂
I haven't trusted MSM for a decade and I never will again. I won't vote Labour again either. Jeremy Corbyn lost an election because MSM made him a monster for having empathy for surpressed and mis treated people by Israel.
"Stand for what is right, even if it means standing alone." Journalists often forget what their true role is. This chap Ownen Jones tries to stick to factual non bias information rather than being spoon fed a narrative. The fact is that Israel has been caught blatantly lying in multiple instances which doesn't help their credibility..Much respect to Owen
Owen Jones is one of the most biased journalists out there. He is intolerant of views he disagrees with and he consistently spoon-feeds a utopian socialist narrative - a philosophy of failure yet to succeed at national level. I support his right to air these views but lost all respect for him when he threw an on-air tantrum and claimed that only gays could understand the 2016 Orlando massacre
He is Fake journalist. Why Israel always held to higher standards than the rest of of the world? Was he questioning Russia when they destroyed Alepo and killed thousands when they were fighting ISIS?
Has anyone asked the question how 6,000 children out of a total of 14,000 are dead? Is it true that the IDF gave three days notice with instructions to the residents to evacuate south before they commenced their attacks? If it is true, did everybody heed the warning to evacuate south? If not, why not? Who’s asking these questions? There are more questions than these simple few.
@ianbrownson2379 Yeah, we've seen what the majority in isr@hell They think and do gays or don't you remember a young teenager was murd€r€d for that in Jerusalem.
What surprises me is that the descendants of the victims that we have not forgotten for over 85 years, rightfully so, are inflicting terrific, brutal, vengeful, cruel acts - and those for years - on civilians. Have they not learned anything?
Thank you so much Michael for keeping things clear & analytical. I watched Owen Jones last post. I found his presentation to be respectful, very sensitive, genuine, honest & clear given how difficult this must have been & I say Thank You 🙏. I think both Owen Jones & Novara Media have given sanity & clarity & presented news that has informed & challenged 🙌🙌🙌🕯️
I've been listening Douglas Murry on this conflict and as articulate as he is he seems to gloss over the fact the conflict has killed 14k plus Palestinians.
It's quite marked. Even when he's questioned on this, he has no ounce of sympathy for any of the countless innocents that were killed in Gaza. Instead, he says it is exclusively on the heads of Hamas that this is the case. Even if that were true, you'd try to display some humanity towards them.
Anti Zionism is as racist as being anti Jordanian or anti Syrian. Israel always had as much right to exist as any other country carved out of the ottoman Empire.
Based on what? The land grab for a bunch of Khazars using US and British weapons? Or are you going to use the book they wrote to prove that a thing can describe itself? Ottomans were long gone by the time the Jews commited Nakbah.@@phun1901
Israeli media and testimonies say that the IDF shoot and shelled it's own people on oct7th , testimonies from soldiers and survivors , they killed 350 people at the rave proof ? middle east eye , haaretz ,and other reports and videos also The Hannibal Directive of the IDF .
Douglas Murray should agree that all the footage should be independently reviewed, to tell the truth of what happened regardless of what crimes were committed. We know that crimes were committed but to what extent that has been reported? I'm with you guys on this one.
I watched the clip with Douglas Murray ranting. With every "Are they saying??" I found myself yelling "No! That is NOT what they are saying!!" A more appalling smear of a journalist I can't recall. I had previously watched Owen Jones' video and Murray and Julia Hartley-Brewer completely misrepresented Jones. What a couple of shoddy individuals those two are!
“Years of treachery will come over people in which liars are believed and the truthful are denied, the deceitful are trusted and the trustworthy are considered traitors, and the disgraceful will deliver speeches.”
Yes,that is precisely what I heard,too. A humanitarian response and an appeal for us all to question our souls: are we becoming deadened within by atrocity or deepening our bonds with all of our shared humanity.
It’s become cringeworthy how desperate the Israeli propaganda machine has become. As for Goldsmith, I thought taking notes would be part of a journalists job 🤔 It’s clear, if your not following the mainstream media narrative your villainized. Well done Michael and Owen for showing us what true journalism is 👏🏼
That's why I don't watch TalkTV, SkyNews anymore. We need "fair and factual" news, not "bias and pushing an agenda" one. I know it is hard to do so. But the viewers deserve that.
Add Fox News too, I watch debates that have both Pro-Israel and Pro-palestine to get a full picture of this conflict! Also have you seen Douglas does not want to debate anyone, because he knows he would be dragged on the floor!
Its not like this channel is "fair" or "neutral" in the subject either. As soon as he possibly can he starts accusing Israel for not showing the footage twice to audiences and assume its deliberate. Or how Douglas Murry is a lier, but nothing about his statement was dissproven. I really hope people look for multiple sources instead of this channel. Tying to downplay Hamas attrocites is just messed up.
Talk TV and GB news are stirring up hatred against the most vulnerable all the time using the disaffected British lower class and boost their viewing little Britain seems to believe that their predicament is all because of brown people, and nothing to do with a deliberate government policy to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
what’s insane to me is that the horrors in gaza are available for anyone with an internet connection to see through people like motaz. meanwhile, in order to watch the footage from oct 7 you can ONLY watch this version specifically curated by the IDF AND you have to be invited AND you can only view it once. on top of all that, i can’t understand how you can emerge from viewing horrors like that and thinking “yes, i want this kind of violence to keep happening to more people as vengeance.” this whole story is bonkers.
@@JoBloggs3rd-os6se equating the death of 1200 J's with 6 million J's in the H-caust for a start. Utterly disgusting minimization of Jen-o-cyde. I know I spell things wrong, it's to get round protective algorithms which remove comments for other users.
I've discovered both yourselves and Owen as a result of Oct 7. Legends. I stand with humanity. Keep up your work. Proud to know there are sane minds still here on earth.
Genuine journalism - invite journalists from all parts to the crime scene. Journalism from the 21st century - carefully prepare a movie piece and invite selected journalists to see it...
@@manvbeesWhy? I think they give a very differentiated critical assessment of the situation. They don't rely on emotional rhetoric and spectacle, but on actually working through the material and constructing substantiated arguments.
I cant stand his double standard and ignorance. He never critic Israel once, despite they have killed hundreds of thousands civilian. What he cries about is Oct 7, again and again.
The set up is perhaps wrong , the security council has last word, only a handful nations decide on sanctions, .. if any one nation vetoes, it stops there. Israel, UK and America are on the security Council
The UN is watching billions of dollars of its projects going up in smoke ... and is secretly delighted ... because it will be presenting itself as the arbiter later on and dishing out bills for the service.
I do wish journalists would call the Oct 7th attack what it was: retaliation. This channel has outlined the various crimes and atrocities that led up to the attack -- illegal detentions (aka Israeli state kidnapping, settler invasions & home thefts, desecrating mosques, etc. Oct 7th didn't just happen out of nothing. Just calling it a terrorist attack accepts the war mongers narrative that history began on Oct 7th when, as we all know, it began weeks, months, and decades ago. Calling it a mere atrocity and dropping it plays into the "insane violent Muslim" stereotype. Call it an atrocious retaliation if you need to fit that word in, but don't give in to the propagandistic framing.
@NovaraMedia If you see this, it's intended as critique rather than criticism. You folks have been at the leading edge of calling out the Israeli atrocities for what they are. I know you're walking a razor's edge between being honest to call out the crimes of the imperial power and the blowback coming at you. I didn't expect the response my little comment received. I think it shows your supporters are there behind you & will support your continued efforts to move the balance away from the mainstream media narrative towards an honest accounting of what has happened. Thank you for your bravery.
I am so disgusted by the actions of October 7th in Israel, I pray for the victims. I also pray for all the victims of Israel’s siege on Gaza. Tens of thousands of civilians gone! Both sides left weeping.
Actual psychopaths calling good honest people psychopaths. Well, then I'm a psychopath too and I call for peace and a free and sovereign Palestinian nation.
"When you cut out a man's tongue you are not proving him a liar; you are proving you fear what he has to say."
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I know they are afraid what Own has to say
Or they know he's a liar
Go to ync site type hamas in search box press enter and you'll see everything.
@@liamoconlocha3264you mean like how the IDF has proved itself to be a liar, not providing evidence into any of their “allegations” how they tried to manipulate the days of the week in Arabic into their propaganda definitions, 40 “beheaded babies” to which no factual evidence exists to the claim
Good luck Michael and Owen, it must be so ghastly working in such an unhealthy environment. Please keep up the good work.
Owen Jones has put his career on the line to bring us the truth . I salute him for that.
For once you mean
How did he put his career on the line ? It’s all about optics … it’s all good for these TH-camrs .. they are no different from MSM… start your own channel and see how your brain works ..
No he hasn't .
@@RadiologyDxUnder60secs_stocksPish.
I hope you are standing up while giving him the salute 🫡 !
OWEN KEEP DOING YOUR GOOD WORK.
He’s continuing to do this more than a year on, isn’t he? Well done Owen.
I am astounded that Douglas Murray had the gall to call Norm Finkelstein a "psychopath".
Classic Projection.
Please don’t be astounded! Douglas speaks from his backside 🤪😜!!! Understand?
Douglas is spot on.
Not sure if Finkelstein is a psychopath but I am certain there is something wrong with him.
@@unionofsa - No, he's not.
Owen Jones did an excellent, balanced, and open-minded assessment of that video. Rare these days for any journalist. Appreciated.
I agree!
Mind Begs the Question:
- If a Israeli PM/Govt in 2019
- Publicly promoted funding Hamas
- Hamas attack on Israelis
- By Hamas or by Israel PM/Govt?
Indeed!
I truly can't stand listening to Douglas. His lies and blatent racism are unbearable to watch.
Couldn't agree more!
Lord Haw Haw
Hmm pot calling the kettle somewhat......
What "lies" did he tell?
@blastradius9136 you mean when was the last time he told the truth?
Hartley-Brewer and Murray make a living from hating and lofty snears; they are enemies of serious debate.
Listening to Douglas for 5min is all it takes to notice the hate spewing from his mouth… & what’s hidden in his heart is probably worst
Fantastic work Novara! I couldn’t decide whether Douglas Murray is a racist or an idiot until I realised that to be a racist you also had to be an idiot. It’s like a 2 for 1 deal.
Owen on the other hand has an unwavering moral compass and he uses it impartially. Exactly the opposite of the racist idiot Douglas Murray.
B.O.G.O.F
I think you've just betrayed your own thought process which is illogical and resolves to name calling ... I had no idea the Education System had got this bad.
Brilliant!!!
Well said. Bravo
I used to think Douglas Murray was intelligent. Now I can only imagine him as one of the brutal British imperialists that colonised Malaya.
Douglas Murray is turning more into Murray from the Joker movie 😂
What's intelligence have to do with compassion, morality or ethics?
Plenty of educated "intelligent people" in US UK Isr, the leading axis of state and state sponsored endless terror against people without much standing military if at all.
From Vietnam to Gaza to Africa to the Americas and beyond.
🤣 Oh my! You do know that the Malays themselves were brutal Imperialists (started as pirates) that colonised the Malay peninsular (and other regions). There are few English people in the Malay peninsular (so not very good at colonising then). The Malay people however have set up a permanent colony there.
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The region was called the Malay Archipelago, right? The Malay people are genetically linked to the indigenous Semang and Jakun people. How can Malays colonise their own territories?
@@frankyyaggabot6222 Peninsula. Peninsular is an adjective.
The fact that Hamas are committing war crimes - on whatever scale - should not mean that Israel, or any other nation, therefore get a free pass to do the same - which is what the mainstream seem to be arguing for.
It seems to be one war crime does justify another.. ?
No.
And then it’s the norm which unravels as it spreads and poisons more
War crimes are happening in Palestine for 75 years and in the last 30 years Israel was the one nailing it.
War is not fought on a chessboard.
Of course they want him shut down because he tells the truth and we must not have that, heads up keep going Owen.
Owen does not tell truth and never has. He is always selective with his facts. There will be facts he does not show.
If Islam ever triumphs in the UK, Owen Jones will be a dead man. In that regard, you cannot trust him to tell truth to third parties, as he cannot even tell that truth to himself.
@@stephenhowe4107 Owen Jones has stated FACTS - 15,000 civilians killed by IDF, 6000+ are children, Israel has withdrawn water, gas and electricity from Gaza
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He said what he saw and what he didn't see .. what's wrong with that?? Why didn't he have a chance to replay the video to be sure of what he had seen?
No matter what they do now and flip it around million times, Israelis lost it when it comes to people’s opinions about them because nothing, NOTHING can justify those horror images we’ve been watching from Gaza
The ones in Yemen, Syria, Armenia ,Afghanistan, etc. aren't civilizations of civilians by pissfuls?
A lot of AI fakery. But you love it.
Following your argument Churchill and every single fighter pilot was a war criminal then?
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@@peterwillson1355oh yh it's all AI, deepfakes you know, only the hasbara propaganda is real.
Douglas Murray sounds like a spokesman for the Israeli government.i wouldnt waste my time listening to his filth and lies you carry on Owen mate you doing a great job.thank you
Owen jones sounds like a spokesman for HAMAS
@@docca123gobshite 😂
He actually is 🤣he lives in Telaviv in Israel now. They are paying him well
Doug actually makes more sense ,then Jones..
But nothing Murry said was untrue. So why claim that hes lying?
After seeing what Israel is capable of, I have no reason to believe that anything in that video isn't fabricated.
After seeing what hamas did on the ync site, that graphic video was real.
@@GeorgePoulakis-kf8osyeah those Sunday, Monday and Friday hamas members were dangerous 😂😂😂
@@abdalazeemal-mashaqba6600 I don't follow(sun,mon,Fri hamas members???).
@@GeorgePoulakis-kf8os I guess you don’t catch what the Zios did on 9/11.
@@OddWoz zios??? What's that?
I love Novara Media, but please dont make me have to watch Douglas Murray again
I worry You Tube will recognise Murray's name, connect me to him and flood my options with his bile.
Yes just watching those short clips is torture
its called fast forward luv.
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As soon as he came on I fast forwarded him as I too can’t even listen to his voice!
If only journalists had half of Owen's integrity and professionalism, the mainstream media would be saved from the current pseudo journalists.
He writes for The Guardian, which has managed to turn itself into a NeoCon Rag in the last several years.
But that's not the point of mainstream media. It is a tool of the rich in the endless war against the poor
Just point to faults rather than look to avenues for peace.
Owen is a pseudo journalist: He opinionates from a reservoir of thought that had formulated it's view of the world - yes, that's very common!
murray is full of hate and racism. how can ppl live in this way? they tune into autopilot to not feel the scream of their soul. he lost his path.
"I have no mercy or compassion in me for a society that will crush people, and then penalise them for not being able to stand up un-der the weight." - Malcolm X
In what why does Israeli society crush its people?
The more Owen reports on this, the more 'likes' he gets from me. Someone has to do the important jobs that corporate media is ignoring.
Owen jones is the bravest journalist telling the truth. I salute his braveness. It doesn’t matter where you stand. It matters that innocent people are dying
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Where is his journalism for Yemen?
So these people are so traumatized by this 43 minute film… Have they watched even four minutes of footage of dead and burnt babies being pulled out of rubble in Gaza? Are they aware of what Israel is doing to the people in Gaza? There are things I will never be able to unsee. I saw things that brought me down on my knees crying feeling completely helpless and alienated. I am so tired of everyone being so outraged for what happened on October 7 and not having an ounce of concern for every day that has happened since. Where are these journalists? If they are this sensitive, they need to see what Al Jazeera is showing the world.
I believe the callous Own and Walker stopped off on the way to watch the film to get popcorn...
Gideon Levy said in the last 15 years Israeli news/TV do not show any footage of the destruction in Gaza. Zilch. In that 15 years over 6000 Gazans have been killed, including 2000 children.(this is before Oct 7). Israelis hardly know anything about this. Oct 7 atrocities are played on Israeli TV 24x7. So of course they don't care about the dead Gazans. Now this same technique is being used for the Western world. Unfortunately for Israel you have outlets like Al Jaz and others contesting it.
Yes, you are right.
@@anthonycharnock6560yeah where you have been carrying a bucket since forever.
What Al Jazeera is showing the world is Hamas/Anti-Israeli well orchestrated propaganda.
You don't have to see it rain to know that it has rained.
when it rains there is evidence that it did rain, wetness and traces of rain drops for example. the issue is there was no footage (evidence) to support the wild claims I'D'F is claiming, such as the babies situation.
Hats off to anyone sticking with the truth
Hats off to Douglas for speaking the truth.
@@remogatron1010please explain how Douglas Murray is telling the ‘truth’ - I’ll wait
@@tomstar1800 please explain how Owen Jones is telling the ‘truth’ - I’ll wait
@@remogatron1010What was Douglas right about?
You won't get that on here- or from Owen Jones.
Please Owen take legal action against Douglas, the man is way out of line.
Do not stop telling us the truth Owen, you and Michael are shining stars in the darkness of our present world.
Hmm last case I followed ended with cost going to the litigation ...total cost was $3.5 million dollars and they lost. But they did have a iron ore billionaire sponsoring them.
@@glennwall552What case was it?
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Owen does not tell truth. He is a left-wing propagandist and always has been, He is a true shill.
But in real life, where most of us live, Douglas Murray has been working as a journalist in the region, meanwhile Owen Jones has'nt left his bedroom.
You are a class act! Owen Jones haters are going to hate, keep doing your job, you do it very honestly and well. I commend you both for your bravery and honesty and hard work! You’ve been tirelessly reporting on everything without a break or reprieve and doing such an outstanding job and keeping your heads clear throughout 🙏❤️🇵🇸
For what it's worth, I generally deeply dislike Jones, but was impressed by how fair and honest he was in this video. No hyperbole, no name calling, no simplistic demonization. I didn't see him employing any tactics here, and _definitely_ saw Murray doing so, in so many ways. Sometimes it isn't about 'haters gonna hate'; sometimes it's just a matter of being honest & people seeing that.
I have to admit, when I saw the thumbnail, and the way it chose stills of Jones looking so ott earnest & heartfelt, and Murray looking like a demon, I was expecting emotionally driven propaganda, and I'm very happy to have been proved wrong.
Very well stated .
First lie. Yes, a lie. Israel is notconducting a war on Gaza, and he knows this. The war, is on Hamas. The hospitals that were bombed were sheltering munition complexes and operational Hamas. And you know this. Hmas picks s a fight and cries when Israel stands uo to the bully.
This is a horrible and alarming example of how dangerous hypocrisy can be.
It’s convenient for the wolf to start the story of little red riding hood from when the wolf was shot at by the hunter.
My enemy is not 3000 miles away its 3 miles away!@@mohammadsalman57
Yeah Owen sickens me too.
End the apartheid regime and free the children from the israeIi prisons
they just kidnapped just as many kids from the west bank to hold as hostages. There hostage exchange essentially meant nothing.
They'll immediately end up in an islamic prison. Your understanding is that of a child.
huh? why would Palestinians put their OWN CHILDREN into prisoner of war camps? Do you hear yourself @@Gonken88
@@HelenWA I don't think you understand the issue here. Women and children are not free in Islamic states. Don't engage in issues that are above your 🧠-grade, you'll just end up supporting things that are immoral.
@@Gonken88 the absolute desire you have to believe in your demonizing image of others is quite frightening and screams superiority/savior complex. I can't imagine having to imagine other cultures torturing THEIR OWN women and kids just to feel justified in hating them and wishing ill upon their people.
Doughlas reminds me of a younger Netenyahu, real snake tongued sociopath
No Netanyahu was a brave soldier back in the day. He's gone mad.
@@jillybe1873 Don't know about his bravery but from all reports he was always a ruthless psycho.
Owen Jones is genuine. There is no pretense about him. Im subscribed to his channel. He's honest.
And aren’t those qualities extra precious in these desperate times…
Wide-eyed naivety is no doubt a form of honesty to the soul that carries it. Don't mistake it for the truth.
Top man ❤
Hates women though
@@brendadarling7743 🤨 being gay doesn’t mean he hates women, he has a preference ….
Thank you very much Michael for standing up for Palestine.
His name is Owen
@@hvk3377 sorry..
Owen was born for this moment. And he should never doubt it.
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@@Essemm52 hi hasbara.
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I pray he keeps safe. His voice and heart breaths hope, care and empathy.
hahaha...little liare is over, he crossed the line of being human...no way back
Gutless Murray almost soiled himself when a possible debate with Norman Finkelstein was suggested.😂
He probably did soil himself but hid it well 😅
Murray soils himself every time he speaks or writes.
I remember when he was doing an interview on the safe side (ofc) of the conflict and he heard an explosion you could see his face going white what a "brave" man.
I would love to see a debate between Dr Finkelstein and Doug Murray to see how ignorant and dishonest Murray is and he needs a history lesson on humanity and truth.
Murray's made of Soil in Soul.
I have nothing but contempt for Douglas Murray.
After contempt there is nothing left but faeces..he doesn't even deserve that.
I think he will get over it.
@@jimseltzer2002he looks like mr bean
Did you literally say that after Owen's followers/advocates are emptied of contempt there is nothing left but faeces? That could have been an inadvertent truism that slipped out but I'm an optimistic sort and will assume you were not aware of what it is you were saying! @@ap2868
I condemn murray
If you research the military support we have given Israel since 1959 you will be shocked to learn it has averaged $5.2 million per day ($123,746,000,000 or an average of $1.9 billion per year)! With that kind of continuing funding, why does Israel need ANY of the $14 billion now being requested??
😊 Yeah a good question 🙋🤔
To pay off & ensure Loyalty from The Corrupt Politicians & Media it's Outrageous 😠
You guys seemed to struggle with the point of "why Israel provide energy to Gaza?". That is because when Gaza tried to build it's own energy generators Israel targeted and destroyed them as it doesn't want Gaza to be self-sufficient. They want to control all the inputs and outputs of Gaza so Gaza have to rely on Israel for everything and if Israel wants to deprive Gaza from their needs they can easily do so.
They want to keep 0ppressing Palestinians forever
Also as an occupier The Fourth Geneva Convention mandates that an occupying power is responsible for the welfare of the civilian population in an occupied territory, ensuring their protection, prohibiting population transfers, and maintaining their basic needs without displacing them.
Is.ra.el has broken all the above laws.
Isn't it because Hamas uses UN resources meant for pipes and generators for rockets instead? I've seen no proof that Israel destroyed them.
@zeddione8770
The Arab governments in the region won't do much, because they see Hamas as Iran's proxy. They want Israel to destroy Hamas and Hezbollah to weaken Iran's power projection in the Levant.
@zeddione8770 they got attacked by the USA, Britain and France for doing that
God bless Owen for sticking up for truth.
owen doesn't recognize god mate.
@@peterwilkinson2998 really not sure what religion has to do with anything
Git springs to mind
Wide-eyed naivety however well intentioned is not a substitute for the truth.
@hasanhaskovic4307 not very bright then, are you?
Hint: god=religion😂😂😂
I support 1$rael and Netanyahu! For removing their masks and showing the world how much Palestine needs our support. And thanks to all the good people in 1$rael that uphold the truth. 🙏🏾 Blessings, Everyone
Bibi the Bebe Slayer Satanyahu.
@@yosserc because many times certain words will trigger a post to be deleted. it's a way to get around it
@yosserc it gets removed otherwise
Good excuse lol.
@@yossercbc TH-cam deletes comments they own social media and any criticism surely gets deleted
Murray
riled me first time I encountered “ it” few years back -despicable
Owens work has been invaluable. He includes citations, sources, names, dates and statistics. A lot more than I've gotten from Ben Shapiro and Doug Murray.
You can’t slander history.
Even if this war finally ends the British people should NEVER forget how Douglas Murray pushes and promotes Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians.
What a meaningless statement @@AYVYN
@@jimseltzer2002 It's not quite as meaningless as yours.
Yeah I mean Jones isn't biased at all is he, just well balanced journalism, what a guy
Douglas Murray I don't hate people but this guy .where did he appear from the lies of the guy how can he be a journalist .
he's not a journalist he's cosplaying
His lies are WHY they have him. He's not there in spite of them.
We shouldn't be surprised that Douglas Murray is often invited to write in the right-wing, tory backing propaganda rag known as the Sun.
Yeah feel the same way, very few people I dislike online but I really can’t stand the guy, he has a dedicated following and I don’t understand how lol.
He ain't a journalist, he's a political operative like so many in the media today.
Whenever I hear Douglas Murrey say anything I feel like I'm losing my nuts. And I'm a woman.
Why they have to be so ridiculous?
😂 I feel you
Lolz I completely understand 😅
Pretty sure I had nuts b4 Murray but now definitely a girl. 😮
@@redpapuangoblinredpapuango2755 ok bot 😂😂
It's weirdly performative
Douglas Murray thinking the Germans weren’t so bad compared to Hamas is such a wild take.
Well, they may have killed millions, but at least some of them felt bad about it.
Michael, could you not take legal action against Douglas Murray for the things he says. His allegations must be slanderous. They must be challenged.
Money wins civil law suits not facts, and Murray has more of that at his disposal than Novara.
No, I think it's wasted energy.
@@helenswan705 well, it seems Owen Jones has had enough and is giving it some consideration. I think Michael and Novara might also consider it. These are serious accusations. I for one would contribute to a crowd fund for legal fees etc
Douglas Murray is despicable the hate he has for the Palestinian people is intolerable
He must be getting paid well though…
nonsense
Your description should be his epitaph
If Douglas Murray was a German around the 40s. We all know which side he'd be on, along with the EDL.
The going rate is 20 pieces of silver.@@mradeelmirza
Thank you for your honesty. Its shocking to see ppl are being targeted for daring to speak the truth.
I have stopped watching mainstream news and I watch your episodes every day to get an update. Thank you for your amazing journalism
So do I
Mainstream media in U.S. is corporate controlled BS
ME TOO! I'm here on TH-cam; trying to avoid confimation bias. Check these out if you already haven't:
-Katie Halper
-DemocracyNOW!,
-Trevor Noah's Daily Show - past videos - can see the pattern! (2018)
-Al Jazeera (Prof. Marc Lamont's interviews are wonderful; he was fired by CNN b/c of speech he gave at the UN, saying Western nations should boycott & divest from Israel
-LBC (Sangita Myska’s interviews!- doesn’t let guests of the hook with grace & iron fist); DemocracyNOW;
-DemocracyNOW!
. . . I'm sure there're others I'm not aware of.
BUT still check in on mainstream to compare/contrast. Check AP, Reuters, PBS first; then BBC, BBCWorld, World News, MSNBC (disappointed), CNN, ...even Fox "News" for about 30 mintues (all I can stomach.)
Yes because describing Hamas as they describe themselves in their charter ie Isis and in their actions takes away the leftist narrative of simple freedom fighters in a land dispute. Go and drink your milk.
That may not be prudent. While I have also switched to Novara and Owen Jones as my main UK news sources, you still should keep abreast what other outlets are saying. You can't fight the enemy if you don't know what they are saying and thinking.
I don't care if you do it for the content and the views, its still very very hard and scary to be as transparent and as moral as you are... thank you
The fact that so many politicians and right wing people are demonizing Owen Jones for just his job makes me support him more because honestly I'm sick of the lies of the Mainstream media
I'm sick of his report always one sided,he not even saw the other tragedy happens in Palestine,he just reporting about what's going on between Isarahell and Hamas,he always on sided report,not amazing at all 😂😂😂😂
@@williammarsh4321what the salmonella woman 😂 about time she was put in a care home
@@williammarsh4321 why do you think he’s stupid?
I haven't trusted MSM for a decade and I never will again. I won't vote Labour again either. Jeremy Corbyn lost an election because MSM made him a monster for having empathy for surpressed and mis treated people by Israel.
@@ciararespect4296 regardless of whether she is the salmonella woman, she a point about Owen Jones.
"Stand for what is right, even if it means standing alone." Journalists often forget what their true role is. This chap Ownen Jones tries to stick to factual non bias information rather than being spoon fed a narrative. The fact is that Israel has been caught blatantly lying in multiple instances which doesn't help their credibility..Much respect to Owen
Owen Jones is one of the most biased journalists out there. He is intolerant of views he disagrees with and he consistently spoon-feeds a utopian socialist narrative - a philosophy of failure yet to succeed at national level. I support his right to air these views but lost all respect for him when he threw an on-air tantrum and claimed that only gays could understand the 2016 Orlando massacre
Ironically Douglas Murray has 'stood alone' for a long time in many areas of opinion, and yet now he's somehow seen as mass media? 😅
He is Fake journalist. Why Israel always held to higher standards than the rest of of the world? Was he questioning Russia when they destroyed Alepo and killed thousands when they were fighting ISIS?
@@snoopycharlie8718haha i know,u couldn't make this rubbish up!and whats with peter tatchel and the gay brigade.Why are they so interested?
@@Anglo_Saxon1 Yeh, it's really very strange how divisive this is. Particularly, as you said, the people that are so interested/ involved in it all 🤔
Douglas Murray spews hatred.
Has anyone asked the question how 6,000 children out of a total of 14,000 are dead?
Is it true that the IDF gave three days notice with instructions to the residents to evacuate south before they commenced their attacks?
If it is true, did everybody heed the warning to evacuate south? If not, why not?
Who’s asking these questions? There are more questions than these simple few.
Novara your amazing. Please keep exposing the truth❤
We respect, love and support Owen Jones.❤
I don't, I can't stand him
Let him go to gaza see what they do to GAYS
@@Ianbib1 Real strong arguement you are peddling here.....
I am guessing your father is stronger than Owen Jones' father too, am I right?
Nah...the guy's a shill for The Guardian. He's ultimately a scribe for West intelligence community.
@ianbrownson2379 Yeah, we've seen what the majority in isr@hell They think and do gays or don't you remember a young teenager was murd€r€d for that in Jerusalem.
We follow and support Owen Jones. Stop empowering these spoilt occupier , how can they threaten journalists ?
What surprises me is that the descendants of the victims that we have not forgotten for over 85 years, rightfully so, are inflicting terrific, brutal, vengeful, cruel acts - and those for years - on civilians. Have they not learned anything?
Well said Michael walker.. My absolute respect to you for your fair mind and speaking the truth.
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There really is nothing quite like people telling you what you already believe
@@Bertie22222 yeah you would know, something you prescribe to religiously no doubt.
@@MusMasi you genius, you turned that around on me.
Thank you so much Michael for keeping things clear & analytical.
I watched Owen Jones last post.
I found his presentation to be respectful, very sensitive, genuine, honest & clear given how difficult this must have been & I say Thank You 🙏.
I think both Owen Jones & Novara Media have given sanity & clarity & presented news that has informed & challenged 🙌🙌🙌🕯️
I've been listening Douglas Murry on this conflict and as articulate as he is he seems to gloss over the fact the conflict has killed 14k plus Palestinians.
He probably doesn't care.
@@tarakb7606it's no accident. They want to see it happen.
@tarakb7606 probably?.he hates them
It's quite marked. Even when he's questioned on this, he has no ounce of sympathy for any of the countless innocents that were killed in Gaza. Instead, he says it is exclusively on the heads of Hamas that this is the case. Even if that were true, you'd try to display some humanity towards them.
you listening to him indicates that you don't notice that he's lying about absolutely everything, so you should improve your media diet.
The most advance defense and detection system did not see October 7th coming. How can Israel explain that?
It was a very big mistake obviously
@@Edward_Chandlerintentional as a pretext
Down with Netanyahu down with Zionism
Zionism is the devil.
Anti Zionism is as racist as being anti Jordanian or anti Syrian. Israel always had as much right to exist as any other country carved out of the ottoman Empire.
@@phun1901
No it doesn't.
@@Exceedtherealm And there is the impasse.
Based on what? The land grab for a bunch of Khazars using US and British weapons? Or are you going to use the book they wrote to prove that a thing can describe itself? Ottomans were long gone by the time the Jews commited Nakbah.@@phun1901
Murray is loathsome.
Douglas Murray looked very gleeful didn’t he?
And his perverse defence of the SS was very telling.
Please, you don't have a fragment of the frame of reference you need to understand the things you're talking about.
Scot, It's important to make sure that Douglas Murray doesn't go unanswered.
@@Gonken88does Douglas Murray have that either?
Owen Jones is a reallife hero. His name will never be forgotten. Ever.
Of course they want him down, Owen is telling the truth
Of course they want him down, Douglas is telling the truth
@@remogatron1010 Nah.
@@tayrowell Of course they want him down, Douglas is telling the truth
@@remogatron1010 zip it bot
@@m3ga975 zip it bot
This is so important. I’m glad SOME journalists continue to have integrity
Is that a joke ?
I think it is a joke,with 272 jokes in that little Thumbs.up sign!!
Israeli media and testimonies say that the IDF shoot and shelled it's own people on oct7th , testimonies from soldiers and survivors , they killed 350 people at the rave
proof ? middle east eye , haaretz ,and other reports and videos
also The Hannibal Directive of the IDF .
Well you can't be talking about Owen
The name Owen Jones/The Guardian and integrity should not be in the same sentence.
One of the greatest service to humanity is speaking the truth regardless. Thank you, Owen
little liar never said a word of truth
@@georgka74what was untrue?
Try it , I still do not have an answer as to why the Muslims attacked the Jews and kidnapped the public Jews and want army men released in trade ????
How people can't see similarity between western culture and Israel, and complete opposite side of radical islamists and palestinian terrorists
Kremlin troll.
Douglas Murray should agree that all the footage should be independently reviewed, to tell the truth of what happened regardless of what crimes were committed. We know that crimes were committed but to what extent that has been reported? I'm with you guys on this one.
I watched the clip with Douglas Murray ranting. With every "Are they saying??" I found myself yelling "No! That is NOT what they are saying!!" A more appalling smear of a journalist I can't recall. I had previously watched Owen Jones' video and Murray and Julia Hartley-Brewer completely misrepresented Jones. What a couple of shoddy individuals those two are!
Good job Owen and Michael. You guys are doing a great job.
If scum was ever a picture, Douglas Murry's face would be it.
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Gay
@@oldkoot5828 = Racist
Scum rises to the top so,often….
Thanks
God bless the truth tellers.
Amen, in Christ's Name. 🙏
Truth is always to the first casualty in any way. Certainly the case here.
Murray is just a disgrace.
Has Douglas Murray seen how the US and UK treated prisoners with glee in Iraq? All soldiers behave like this.
“Years of treachery will come over people in which liars are believed and the truthful are denied, the deceitful are trusted and the trustworthy are considered traitors, and the disgraceful will deliver speeches.”
Owen is a *Legend.*
You & Owen Jones are journalistic heroes... PLEASE keep up your good work!!...
What I heard Owen say is that a response to the horror he saw was to deepen his humanity rather than stir up more brutality.
Yes,that is precisely what I heard,too.
A humanitarian response and an appeal for us all to question our souls: are we becoming deadened within by atrocity or deepening our bonds with all of our shared humanity.
It’s become cringeworthy how desperate the Israeli propaganda machine has become.
As for Goldsmith, I thought taking notes would be part of a journalists job 🤔
It’s clear, if your not following the mainstream media narrative your villainized. Well done Michael and Owen for showing us what true journalism is 👏🏼
Yes yes with his completely not biased views
And I suppose HAMAS isn’t using propaganda 🙄Please
That's why I don't watch TalkTV, SkyNews anymore. We need "fair and factual" news, not "bias and pushing an agenda" one. I know it is hard to do so. But the viewers deserve that.
Add Fox News too, I watch debates that have both Pro-Israel and Pro-palestine to get a full picture of this conflict! Also have you seen Douglas does not want to debate anyone, because he knows he would be dragged on the floor!
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Its not like this channel is "fair" or "neutral" in the subject either.
As soon as he possibly can he starts accusing Israel for not showing the footage twice to audiences and assume its deliberate.
Or how Douglas Murry is a lier, but nothing about his statement was dissproven.
I really hope people look for multiple sources instead of this channel. Tying to downplay Hamas attrocites is just messed up.
Talk TV and GB news are stirring up hatred against the most vulnerable all the time using the disaffected British lower class and boost their viewing little Britain seems to believe that their predicament is all because of brown people, and nothing to do with a deliberate government policy to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
Owen you know those closest to the truth have a hard time getting heard YOU ARE HEARD, YOU ARE SPOT ON AND DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANY CRITICS!!!
what’s insane to me is that the horrors in gaza are available for anyone with an internet connection to see through people like motaz. meanwhile, in order to watch the footage from oct 7 you can ONLY watch this version specifically curated by the IDF AND you have to be invited AND you can only view it once. on top of all that, i can’t understand how you can emerge from viewing horrors like that and thinking “yes, i want this kind of violence to keep happening to more people as vengeance.” this whole story is bonkers.
You actually and everyone can see ! It is by parts ! I don’t think you actually will enjoy.
@@lanagrossman489 i understand English isn’t your first language but this makes no sense.
Exactly !!!
How did Douglas Murray get so dumb so quick
What did he say in the clip that you take issue with?
It's in his genes.
@@JoBloggs3rd-os6se Everything. Being a shameless liar and a propagandist justifying idf atrocities for starters.
@@JoBloggs3rd-os6se equating the death of 1200 J's with 6 million J's in the H-caust for a start. Utterly disgusting minimization of Jen-o-cyde. I know I spell things wrong, it's to get round protective algorithms which remove comments for other users.
@@azlanbinismaillike diarrhoea it runs in the genes!
I've discovered both yourselves and Owen as a result of Oct 7. Legends. I stand with humanity. Keep up your work. Proud to know there are sane minds still here on earth.
Legends?! For repeatedly trying to down play the atrocities Hamas committed?
@denzel stop diverting from the topic. You know what he means
@@denzel270 Did you watch up to 5mins where Owen enumerates the atrocities Hamas committed?
@@denzel270 Ok Goebbels
Really appreciate the clarity here. Thank you.
Thank you and to Owen Jones for being proper journalists not mouth pieces of the IDF.
I wish we had a few like them across the channel, all channels are just parrots.
Genuine journalism - invite journalists from all parts to the crime scene.
Journalism from the 21st century - carefully prepare a movie piece and invite selected journalists to see it...
You're right. They are just Hamas mouthpieces instead 😂
Muppet
@@manvbeesWhy? I think they give a very differentiated critical assessment of the situation. They don't rely on emotional rhetoric and spectacle, but on actually working through the material and constructing substantiated arguments.
I think we all know the Douglas Murray is not only a poor author but also one of Farage’s racist rent boys.
Rent boys?????
@@jackkelsey9326Murray is a battyboy.
@@jackkelsey9326 In the English language it means he has more than one. 😃
I cant stand his double standard and ignorance. He never critic Israel once, despite they have killed hundreds of thousands civilian. What he cries about is Oct 7, again and again.
@@jackkelsey9326😂😂
Douglas and Piers Morgan are were Sold their Soul for monetary benefit😂😂😂
Douglas already held white supremacist views; as for Morgan, he does so now at least.
It should be shown to the public. Everyone should be aware of what greed and colonization look like, and the horrifying result of oppression.
Yet, ZERO countries want Palestinians in their country!!!
And let’s show what the ANIMALS did to women and babies!!!!
Douglas Murray lies even when he is telling the truth! Some people are just built that way!
Shame on the UN for not stopping this crap.
The US is blocking the UN at every step
The set up is perhaps wrong , the security council has last word, only a handful nations decide on sanctions, .. if any one nation vetoes, it stops there.
Israel, UK and America are on the security Council
The UN is watching billions of dollars of its projects going up in smoke ... and is secretly delighted ... because it will be presenting itself as the arbiter later on and dishing out bills for the service.
Difficult if the US and UK won't support them.
Shame on the US for vetoing all attempts of the UN to stop their spoiled brat
I do wish journalists would call the Oct 7th attack what it was: retaliation. This channel has outlined the various crimes and atrocities that led up to the attack -- illegal detentions (aka Israeli state kidnapping, settler invasions & home thefts, desecrating mosques, etc. Oct 7th didn't just happen out of nothing. Just calling it a terrorist attack accepts the war mongers narrative that history began on Oct 7th when, as we all know, it began weeks, months, and decades ago.
Calling it a mere atrocity and dropping it plays into the "insane violent Muslim" stereotype. Call it an atrocious retaliation if you need to fit that word in, but don't give in to the propagandistic framing.
In a similar way what happened after 7th Oct was also retaliation.
How many Palestinians are in Israeli jails ? How many Israelis are in Palestinian jails?
But “do you condemn Hamas?”
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Totally agree. One of the biggest lies of all is that Oct 7 was the beginning of the conflict.
@NovaraMedia
If you see this, it's intended as critique rather than criticism. You folks have been at the leading edge of calling out the Israeli atrocities for what they are.
I know you're walking a razor's edge between being honest to call out the crimes of the imperial power and the blowback coming at you.
I didn't expect the response my little comment received. I think it shows your supporters are there behind you & will support your continued efforts to move the balance away from the mainstream media narrative towards an honest accounting of what has happened.
Thank you for your bravery.
I am so disgusted by the actions of October 7th in Israel, I pray for the victims. I also pray for all the victims of Israel’s siege on Gaza. Tens of thousands of civilians gone! Both sides left weeping.
Owen Jones = HERO! Douglas Murray = ZERO!
Is Douglas Murrays face melting? Is that why he's so angry.
Every one can see what happens in Gaza. Why they don’t show what happened in October 7 for every one and allow independent investigation.
It's quite interesting how they changed the defense of Palestine into support for Hamas.
Actual psychopaths calling good honest people psychopaths. Well, then I'm a psychopath too and I call for peace and a free and sovereign Palestinian nation.
Ooh yes, let's change the meaning of psychopath! Don't let the bsterds abuse it
Narcissist ..
I have come to the conclusion that Douglas Murray is a psychopath.
Social media will haunt Douglass Murray and his entire family for many, many years to come. He is trying to justify the unjustifiable.