If I Could Choose Only One Work By...SHOSTAKOVICH

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  • It Would Have To Be...Symphony No. 4
    Thank you for this inspired choice!
    The List So Far:
    1. Ravel: Ma Mère l’Oye (Mother Goose Ballet)
    2. Bruckner: Symphony No. 7
    3. Schubert: String Quintet in C major
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  • @AudiophiliaChannel
    @AudiophiliaChannel ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The 10th is the greatest symphony of the 20th century. Yet, my choice would be the 4th. Mesmerizing and stunningly brilliant in every crazy way.

    • @mayankprajapat4591
      @mayankprajapat4591 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I just started listening the 4th, and I am addicted to it. It's been a month and I can't get over it, it so so good. Just complete genius and madness.

  • @robertdandre94101
    @robertdandre94101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    shostakovich's quartet no. 15 is a work that overwhelms me every time I listen to it.....deep, intense work...work of a man, a humanist? for whom life has undergone many trials

  • @michaelhughes1504
    @michaelhughes1504 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Symphony No 8 (Haitink/Concertgebouw/Decca)

  • @OuterGalaxyLounge
    @OuterGalaxyLounge ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cancrizans leaving in a giant loophole for box sets... Truly a wily and capricious being. I feel like having a beer with big C and persuading him/her/they to solve various world issues. But, as for the challenge, this one is hard, as I have no ONE Shostakovich piece I value over the others. For sheer enjoyment, I most like the 11th Symphony, that unjustly maligned work. My brain says one of the chamber pieces or concertos, but even there I'm bereft. Cancrizans will be most displeased.

  • @greenshades9889
    @greenshades9889 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The piano quintet for me.

  • @aclassicaldisaster
    @aclassicaldisaster ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m a diehard Shostakovich fan. I understand it’s not the cup of tea of everyone, but I would 100% choose the 8th symphony. Something about the proportions, form, and palpable nature of the dread throughout the entire work is just fantastic. I maintain that the ending of the first movement is one of the greatest ending in the entirety of classical music (So much so, that it often makes me a bit irritated at the second movement for coming and obliterating the peaceful exhaustion, which I think adds to the effect). I also love how you can hear the trombones almost say “damn” (insert your favorite one-syllable obscenity) in the finale after the big screaming thing from the first movement returns. Shostakovich was always a very graphic composer. If I could only keep one recording I’d choose Sanderling.

  • @davidgroth26
    @davidgroth26 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shostakovich is so great, IMO, that it is fun to think about. 4th is a great choice for all the right reasons, even above my beloved 13th and the orchestral setting of Michelangelo Lieder. Such heart. Always with Shostakovich, authentic heart

  • @djquinn4212
    @djquinn4212 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For an exercise like this, you can’t look at it in a musical vacuum, so because it’s the only memorial to the victims of it, my answer is Babi Yar.

  • @petercharlton4124
    @petercharlton4124 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maybe I'd pick the Piano Trio No 2. I played it at work once, probably too loud, and a colleague said "This is the angriest most frightening music I've ever heard"... trouble is, I think she said it in an offended kind of way.

  • @thomasdavis8117
    @thomasdavis8117 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I'd keep the preludes and fugues, for some reason I feel like they feel the most heartfelt and connected to his spirit even though I would certainly admit they're not his most ambitious or even most interesting works.

    • @terryp3034
      @terryp3034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are what came to mind the moment I heard the question.

    • @CH3CH2OCH2CH3net
      @CH3CH2OCH2CH3net 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love the 24 Preludes and Fugues. I'm a composer, and I keep a copy of the Beethoven Sonatas and Shostakovich 24 Preludes and Fugues with me at all times.

  • @cihant5438
    @cihant5438 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like his string quartet which was about world war II. I think it is number 8. You can cry to it, then headbang to it and then cry at the end again.

  • @LordoftheFleet
    @LordoftheFleet ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes, Shostakovich 4 is the work that I would choose. It was the first work by Shostakovich that I ever heard.
    When I was a kid, I used to spend my pocket money buying LPs, and I used to go for works by composers that I had never heard of. There used to be a record shop in Sydenham, a suburb of SE London, near to where I lived. One day while browsing around in that shop, I came across an LP with the name "Shostakovich" sprawled across the cover in a big, blue script. It was his 4th symphony played by the Philadelphia Orchestra with Ormandy conducting. As I said, I'd never heard of Shostakovich, but I fell in love with the 4th on the first playing. I couldn't stop playing it. Later, I had to buy a re-issue when one emerged, and some time after that it began to appear on CD. Somewhere along the line, I found the score in the Boosey and Hawkes shop in London, so I bought that too.

    • @KBMars
      @KBMars ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same experience, first Shostakovich I ever heard on a budget CD version with Kondrashin, and could not believe it, amazing...

    • @andrewward1872
      @andrewward1872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mine was the first by Ormandy and Philadelphia on Sony Essential Classics.

  • @stephenjcarr1
    @stephenjcarr1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For me, Symphony No 5, followed by 10

  • @malcolmxfiles
    @malcolmxfiles ปีที่แล้ว +5

    YES!!! I was the one who recommended it! What a great choice! And very unexpected! As always, your insight and analysis are very much appreciated. Can't say enough about how great this work is. So dynamic, vibrant, terrifying, sarcastic, hopeless. Thanks again!

  • @poturbg8698
    @poturbg8698 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I'd choose the 15th symphony. The creativity and mystery of this piece is unique among his symphonies.

    • @Bachback
      @Bachback ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The 15th is a very good symphony for me, a man in his late 60's much closer to the end than the beginning.

    • @johnbyrd3168
      @johnbyrd3168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bachback 15th is let down by the awful 1st movement. Worthy of Gilbert & Sullivan

    • @windowtrimmer8211
      @windowtrimmer8211 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agree with the choice of 15th Symphony. By far.

    • @windowtrimmer8211
      @windowtrimmer8211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree with the choice of 15th Symphony. By far.

    • @willduffay2207
      @willduffay2207 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnbyrd3168 I disagree completely, but would also question your conflation of 'awful' and Sullivan...

  • @nihilistlemon1995
    @nihilistlemon1995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    agree since it is one of my favorite symphonies period

  • @barrygray8903
    @barrygray8903 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    For me it has to be Symphony No 10. A great variety of expression presented in a powerful , unique way that only Shostakovich could create. Brilliant sections where tension is masterfully built over long spans (first and last movements particularly).The orchestration is inspired.

    • @laszlo-bencsik
      @laszlo-bencsik ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me, too. An incredibly beautiful, fascinating piece of music full of heightened tension and resolution - perhaps truly the musical epic of the 20th century. A difficult but magical creation.

  • @platonos86
    @platonos86 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I suggest Prokofiev: Piano Sonatas 6, 7, 8. They show his compositorical genius in full scope and are great examples of 20th century piano music. And the pieces prove that the piano sonata form and 20th century avantgardism are perfectly compatible.

  • @LyleFrancisDelp
    @LyleFrancisDelp ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I would opt for the 9th symphony. Such incredible sardonic humor and amazing craftsmanship and orchestration. A truly amazing work.

    • @a.m.rademaker3360
      @a.m.rademaker3360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I fully agree!

    • @zr6935
      @zr6935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, my choice, too. Even for the crushing, shattering 4th movement alone, so brief and powerfull, and how it resolves into the 5th - that's pure genius.

    • @maxhirsch7035
      @maxhirsch7035 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Certainly only he could write a work quite like that- such subversive brilliance.

  • @MDK2_Radio
    @MDK2_Radio ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So many possible choices with Dmitri, but I won’t argue with this. There are times the 4th is my favorite of his symphonies. But I will miss the works you mentioned along with many string quartets and other chamber masterpieces and the Preludes and Fugues. May Cancrizans have mercy on our tiny souls.

  • @alexanderrostel2167
    @alexanderrostel2167 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me it’d be the second piano concerto - looking forward to the day when your BEST and WORST of it airs. ;)

  • @marknewkirk4322
    @marknewkirk4322 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Dave, if I had to choose just one instrumental piece by Shostakovich, I would definitely agree with your choice.
    But I will go to the wall to defend Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District from the delete button.
    In my view, Shostakovich was destined to be the greatest composer for the stage that Russia has ever produced. He had a gift for characterisation, an underappreciated knack for vocal writing, and great dramatic timing. It is nearly forgotten that the abuse he received in 1937 deterred him from writing more operas - he began The Gamblers after the war but left it unfinished, and he wrote one operetta that is undistinguished and unrelentingly "safe". I think he decided he could preserve his dignity and his life by writing instrumental music where it would be hard to pin down what he was saying. And it was only much, much later that he produced vocal music that ventured into dangerous waters (Jewish Songs, Michaelangelo, 13th and 14th symphonies).
    Lady Macbeth gives us low comedy, high tragedy, and orchestral mastery all in one package. It is a true masterpiece worthy of both the stage and the concert hall. At the risk of blaspheming (your god, not mine), I will part with all the symphonies and quartets to keep her ladyship.

    • @jackdahlquist2977
      @jackdahlquist2977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, Mark. While I wouldn't go so far as to part with all the symphonies and quartets, I agree that Lady Macbeth is a true masterpiece, one of Shostakovich's greatest works.

    • @bbailey7818
      @bbailey7818 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's at least two votes for the Lady. I wrote my response before seeing yours and was delighted to see what you wrote.

  • @sophiatalksmusic3588
    @sophiatalksmusic3588 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Trio 2 is my favourite piece of music, ever. I have been researching the friendship between Shostakovich and Ivan Sollertinsky for a long time now, and the Trio is such a moving tribute to who Sollertinsky was, a brilliant figure now mostly forgotten in the west and one of Shostakovich’s strongest supports. Their dynamic reminds me of myself and my best friend in some ways, and while Sollertinsky’s unexpected death in 1944 was a huge blow to Shostakovich, the Trio, particularly its second movement, revives him, just for a few moments, so we can imagine him and Shostakovich forever exchanging witty remarks and finding solace in each other’s company, immortalized in the canon of music history. The pause between the second and third movements absolutely shatters me every time, as we move from joyful remembrance to a passacaglia locked in a cycle of grief. And the fourth perhaps reflects that sorrow outwards- whether the Klezmer themes were meant to connect Shostakovich’s personal grief with the infinitely larger collective grief of the Holocaust, or perhaps to pay tribute to Sollertinsky’s roots in Vitebsk (which had a sizable Jewish population pre-war), there is a sense that this grief is something beyond Shostakovich and Sollertinsky, whose friendship was only one comparatively smaller casualty of the war.
    And yet, given the choice between Trio 2 and Symphony 13, I don’t know what I would choose. 13 got me through the past year- with the war between Russia and Ukraine, the political turmoil in my own country of the US, and my rapidly eroding faith in humanity, Symphony 13 reminded me that there was, will be, and has always been good in the world, people who are willing to stand up and fight for it despite the risks. I finally understood “In the Store” then- the mundanity of everyday life as we live between life-altering events beyond our control, as we know we must survive and care for ourselves and loved ones. Every line in “Fears” took on a chilling significance, (particularly “где кричать бы, молчать приучали, и молчать где бы надо кричать”- loosely, “where screaming should have been, silence was taught, and silence when we needed to scream”). And of course, “Babi Yar” is powerful beyond words; I can’t hear “я каждый здесь расстрелянный ребёнок” (“I am every child shot here”) without aching. “Humour” has kept me going when I’ve just wanted to cave in; Shostakovich and Evtushenko treat the concept with reverence for the power that it holds against oppression.
    The thing about why I love Shostakovich so much, why I have been researching his works and studying his language for years, is because I can find so much comfort in what he wrote. There’s catharsis, laughter, grief, pain, love- sometimes multiple in one piece. I don’t think I could choose just one; so many hold such a special place in my heart.

    • @roryks
      @roryks ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am quite sure Piano Trio No. 2 comes out on top of my list of favourite classical music pieces. And I do appreciate your details about Ivan Sollertinsky.
      In your research, do you have a recommendation for a Shostakovich biography?

    • @sophiatalksmusic3588
      @sophiatalksmusic3588 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roryks The best place to start would probably be either Elizabeth Wilson's "Shostakovich: A Life Remembered" or Laurel Fay's "Shostakovich: A Life." Both are very comprehensive, but Wilson's book is mainly comprised of primary accounts from various sources surrounding Shostakovich, such as colleagues, friends, officials, and family members, while Fay's is more of a traditional biography.

    • @roryks
      @roryks ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sophiatalksmusic3588 Wonderful!

  • @goonbelly5841
    @goonbelly5841 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 4th is the symphony I listen to the most often.

  • @igorgregoryvedeltomaszewsk1148
    @igorgregoryvedeltomaszewsk1148 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My intellect tells me "The 4th" but my instinct tells me "The 5th".

  • @fernandoleon7606
    @fernandoleon7606 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would stay with 13th for orchestral work. Along with the piano quintet is what it touches me the most. Don't ask me why the piano quintet, but it does. However, having to forget personal preferences, I would choose the 13th.

  • @estel5335
    @estel5335 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So tough to pick between the 1st Violin Concerto or the 13th Symphony...

  • @stefansavic3459
    @stefansavic3459 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Work of genius. One of the his most creative pieces. However, incredible that nobody in comments didn't mention his 4th, 5th and 10th string quartet. Fabolous compositions.

  • @marks1417
    @marks1417 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Of course, if this wonderful series ever gets on to Elgar, it will be interesting to see if DH puts forward "The March of the Mogul Emperors" which a couple of years ago he (whimsically ?) posited as E's best work

  • @OW0974
    @OW0974 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would've chosen the 13th too for similar reasons, but I think as a representative piece rather than his 'best' the 4th is probably more suitable

  • @ericleiter6179
    @ericleiter6179 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For me the 4th would be in the top 3, but I would pick the 10th Symphony (as orchestral) and the famous 8th String Quartet (for chamber)...but just one, the 10th for me. The overall intensity is maintained through various moods...and that portrait of Stalin scherzo!!! Just unbelievable power and then the way his motto theme crushes the Stalin motif in the finale!!! Just an amazing summation of his life at that time and it's such incredible music on its own

    • @FCarraro1
      @FCarraro1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i agree in both! I actually picked them without having read your comment :D

  • @orian8837
    @orian8837 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My parents used to play me Shostakovich when I was three and his 4th was always my favorite

  • @neiltheblaze
    @neiltheblaze ปีที่แล้ว

    Great choice! I love this piece.

  • @thomasvendetti3742
    @thomasvendetti3742 ปีที่แล้ว

    Iconic?...Violin Concerto No. 1...the cadenza does it all.

  • @shantihealer
    @shantihealer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So happy with this choice, and a good explanation.

  • @martinbynion1589
    @martinbynion1589 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Magnificent choice! The only possible alternative was one that was part and parcel of the crisis brought on by the Fourth - Lady Macbeth of the Mtensk District!

  • @esprit-critique
    @esprit-critique ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like that series very much. Selecting only one work by a loved composer is really challenging. My choice for Shostakovich is without hesitation his second piano concerto. The adagio of this concerto is one of the most beautiful and touching ever composed. It is one of the few adagios concertos that can be listened to on a loop without tiring. Two other adagios fall into this category 1- 'the adagio from Ravel's concerto in G (a concerto that would surely be my choice of a single work of Ravel to save) and 2- the adagio from Théodore Dubois' second piano concerto in F minor.

  • @powerliftingcentaur
    @powerliftingcentaur ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had haven’t been able to watch the channel much lately because I am a care giver. But this series just caught my eye.
    I can’t believe I am so totally in sync regarding the Shostakovich! I have long considered the 4th his greatest work because it seems so uniquely of the 20th century as one of the century’s signature works. I cannot listen to the end of the symphony without thinking of an atomic bomb being detonated. The supernal beauty of its mushrooming cloud…perhaps the ultimate guilty pleasure.
    This is not my favorite Shostakovich. That would be the 8th, followed by the 6th. But this 4th! This is genius. And to this I bow and make my obeisance.
    David you are such a creative trip. Just a trip. You are endlessly, even eerily creative with your series on this channel. Kudos for this, your latest.

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, and I appreciate your taking the time to watch. My best wishes to you. That's a tough job, I know.

  • @braddaulton3976
    @braddaulton3976 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good choice with so many too chose from

  • @jensguldalrasmussen6446
    @jensguldalrasmussen6446 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The most wonderful thing about this series is, surprisingly, not as much The Chosen One, as it is reading the often very thoughtful arguments in the commentaries in defence of a neglected favourite work!
    Kangooroosanz' cruel endeavour to destroy but one work of a composer seems thus, ironically, to have the opposite effect by spawning even more interest in many other splendiferous works in said composer's ouevre! 😁

  • @shostakovich343
    @shostakovich343 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well, if albums count, for Saint-Saëns I'd say that brilliant Sony disc, featuring Ormandy's Organ Symphony, Entremont's star-studded Carnival of the Animals, and those best-ever encores.

  • @gavrosaurus
    @gavrosaurus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great series and a great playlist! Anyways, this channel in a whole is an awesome guide to classical music, really enjoying it.

  • @manuelwenger486
    @manuelwenger486 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 4th is an excellent choice! I would also suggest a funny disc with Stokowski transcriptions for the old angry god. Might lighten him up a little bit!

  • @b1i2l336
    @b1i2l336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great work, da da, but I have a longstanding love affair with No. 5. No. 10 is pretty great, too. Oh yes, and Nos.13, 14, 1, 8, 9....

  • @nielsbenzon1839
    @nielsbenzon1839 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect!

  • @RudieVissenberg
    @RudieVissenberg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My suggestion: Mozart box the String Quintets

  • @curseofmillhaven1057
    @curseofmillhaven1057 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the 4th is an excellent choice and I'd say just for good measure the album for preservation Jarvi's scorching version of it on Chandos

  • @daviddorfman320
    @daviddorfman320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For Olivier Messiaen, The Quartet for the End of Time, not the Turangalila Symphony. His music is his part of a dialogue with his God, and the quartet is Messisen speaking intimately.

  • @MilsteinRulez
    @MilsteinRulez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES !! If just for that ending. For me, a very strong contender is the second piano trio. But the fourth is so rich in music as well as background, it's more than fine.

  • @milfordmkt
    @milfordmkt ปีที่แล้ว

    Symphony #8 is my usual go to when I'm in the mood for something heavy.

  • @johnoconnor683
    @johnoconnor683 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great choice! For me it would have been the 4th, or the 8th or 10th symphony, or maybe the 8th string quartet.

  • @LaurelT1948
    @LaurelT1948 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since we can ask to preserve cds, I would lobby for 'Duets with the Spanish Guitar,' one of my all-time favorites, with Laurindo Almeida, Salli Terri, and Martin Ruderman. It contains such beautiful short pieces by Ibert, Debussy, Faure, Chopin, Villa Lobos, de Falla, etc. Absolutely delightful. I still have all three LPs, which is good because not all of the music is on this cd; the clarinet duets with Mitchell Lurie are missing, for example. This wonderful cd should not die!

  • @ilunga146
    @ilunga146 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the SQ box set. My imprint version is by the Emersons, but I also like the Jerusalem Quartet (though they haven't done a complete set).

  • @steveschwartz8944
    @steveschwartz8944 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Violin Concerto No. 2 for me.

  • @fred6904
    @fred6904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to suggest Saint Saëns,
    Samson et Delila because it includes so much fabulous music.
    Best wishes Fred from Kristianstad.

  • @jeffjazzwraight
    @jeffjazzwraight ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5th Symphony for me.

  • @mrkknsz
    @mrkknsz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This would be my choice too. Before listening to 4th, I only knew the 8th quite well, and vaguely 5th and 7th, but this was something else entirely. I was instantly hooked and the record was on repeat for several weeks. The first mov is so uncompromising, abrasive but also unpredictable and just funny, followed by a spooky second mov, and ending with these huge climaxes of the third, which knock you down after Shostakovich distracts you with these fleeting dance passages. I was certain you would choose the 10th, which I agree is objectively more mature work, but the 4th has all the strands of Shostakovich's style that can be found in his other works.

  • @llucrescu9058
    @llucrescu9058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would chose the 4th also, no question about it, but what proves that Shostakovich is such a great composer it's the multitude of answers people give to this question. And we have some great chamber music options to chose from. Crazy!

  • @markblaxill7958
    @markblaxill7958 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 4th is also my favourite. It is very chaotic & at times violent & unsettling. For me life is like that & why I relate to it.

  • @dickwagman3259
    @dickwagman3259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fabulous Shostakovich choice with the 4th symphony. But it draws me to the other great Russian composer of the first half of the 20th century, Sergei Prokofiev. I considered the 6th symphony, the 2nd piano concerto, and the 6th piano sonata (one of the four greatest piano sonatas of the 20th century, in my opinion.) But Prokofiev was both a great melodist and a fine dramatist. The one piece that emphasizes both of these characteristics is (in my opinion) the greatest ballet ever written: Romeo and Juliet complete. The suites will give you all the great tunes. But to get the full dramatic impact of the entire plot, you really have to listen to the entire thing. And it is endlessly rewarding.

  • @paulmacdowell4010
    @paulmacdowell4010 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My choice would. be the first violin concerto. Shostakovich had to suppress it for many years and it for me is the composer at his most sardonic in the second movement and and soul-bearing in the third. When you add in the masterful use of the passacaglia in that movement, the experience is emotional every time I hear it.

    • @sppolly81
      @sppolly81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seconded. An utterly personal expression that feels more representative of DSCH’s entire life trajectory. Sym 4, while great of course, feels too experimental to embody his life’s work, which must be unsurprising given its history. By the mid 20th century, to be able to do great things with older forms and yet remain expressive, true to himself and sound entirely unlike anyone else, well, to me it feels like a greater artistic success.

    • @sophiatalksmusic3588
      @sophiatalksmusic3588 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a student of the Russian language, the Passacaglia made me understand what тоска was.

  • @mikeleghorn6092
    @mikeleghorn6092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m partial to the 11th - especially the recording by Lazarev and the Royal Scottish National Orchestra. The performance and the quality of the recording is so intense, precise and sympathetic that it moves me to tears in a few places, especially the climax of the 2nd movement.

  • @johkkarkalis8860
    @johkkarkalis8860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Spooky, creepy, sinister"-- I would add not to be listened to in the dark.
    I am surprised by your choice. If I had to bet my retirement I would have guessed the10th.
    On reflection the 4th makes a great choice.
    It was said that after a performance of "Lady Macbeth of Mtsinsk" and the damning Pravda review Shostakovich always kept a packed suitcase, lest he get a late knock on the door informing him he was about to take a long train ride.
    It might be an apocryphal story, but it does reflect life in the Soviet Union in the 30's.
    One correspondent mentioned the 15th.
    I thought this was tongue in cheek Shostakovich.
    Now I'm not so certain. The odd percussive clicks and pops at the end have a sinister tone.
    He used similar percussive effects in some of his darker quartets.
    My soapbox moment? Urging a run through of the 15 string quartets.
    I will never try to anticipate you, Dave.

  • @bobflagg8917
    @bobflagg8917 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 4th is great but overall I lean toward the 5th with its slow movement an existential heaven (oxymoron?) especially via Ormandy's last version (RCA 20th Century box) with searing soaring strings in the finale.

  • @jnhipolito
    @jnhipolito 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, I am enjoying your reviews quite a bit. I wonder if you would be willing to review best cycles of Shostakovich string quartets, perhaps assessing the St. Petersburg quartet in there? Also, perhaps an assessment of Radu Lupu as an artist?

  • @tarikabbas2702
    @tarikabbas2702 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are no wrong choices when it comes to Shostakovich's music. The works that I return to often are the 24 Preludes and Fugues, Cello Concerto no.1 and Symphony no.14

  • @walterbenjamin1386
    @walterbenjamin1386 ปีที่แล้ว

    As much as I love Russian music, composers and musicians, I don't really care for Shostakovich. He certainly captures the pain and insanity of living under totalitarianism, but my soul can't handle it - too upsetting. But, his Violin Concerto in a, Op. 99, has a movement that sends me into transcendent rapture - the Passacalgia, played by Oistrakh with Mitropoulos (first recording, I believe), is beautiful beyond words. I never get tired of it.

  • @hendriphile
    @hendriphile ปีที่แล้ว

    The composer’s “most unique, personal, sui generis expression…”
    That just made up my mind as to which Beethoven work I’d suggest for M. Cancrizans: the Grosse Fuge.

  • @lerossignol746
    @lerossignol746 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, yes and yes!!! The 4. is superb, love this symphony so much 👌.

  • @alexandergroth6549
    @alexandergroth6549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @AlexMadorsky
    @AlexMadorsky ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tough call for me between Shostakovich’s Symphony 4 and Symphony 7. The latter is my favorite, but the 4th is just remarkable in so many scarifying ways.

  • @varundixit1365
    @varundixit1365 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For me it would be 11th symphony. And my go to performance is (and this is probably a controversial opinion) the one by Semyon Bychkov with WDR Symphony Orchestra, which is available on TH-cam.

    • @steventiger880
      @steventiger880 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. The conventional dismissal--"film music looking for a film"--ignores the astonishing expressiveness and brilliant thematic cohesiveness of this work. I recently heard Bychkov's performance and it was indeed superb.

    • @OuterGalaxyLounge
      @OuterGalaxyLounge ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Carl Sagan used a small segment of the 11th for his 1980 series Cosmos, which hooked me and some college friends on Shostakovich's 11th in particular and Shostakovich in general. In a sense, it did become "film music" but clearly it is more than that.

    • @steventiger880
      @steventiger880 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OuterGalaxyLounge Another non-concert use of the 11th Symphony: A passage from the third movement was used prominently in an inexplicably forgotten film called "The Condemned of Altona."

  • @steven4570
    @steven4570 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guess I'll be weird and choose the 7th...by far my favorite of Shostakovich

  • @alexchristopher221
    @alexchristopher221 ปีที่แล้ว

    Symphony # 10.

  • @rbmelk7083
    @rbmelk7083 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the fourth was the best choice (and it just happens to be my favorite from his cycle). Regarding other major Russian composers, I’m still sticking with Tchaikovsky: Symphony No.6 and Rachmaninoff: Rhapsody on a Theme by Paganini. However, I will suggest Piano Concerto No.2 for Prokofiev, Symphony No.2 for Borodin, Symphony of Psalms for Stravinsky, Symphony No.5 for Glazunov, and Pictures at an Exhibition for Mussorgsky.

  • @Tonywozere99
    @Tonywozere99 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the 4th too. Very imaginative, lacks a bit of of form, but dont mind that.

  • @eddihaskell
    @eddihaskell ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never been able to get "into" Shostakovich. I thought #7, Leningrad, would be his most approachable since it is so famous, but I can't sit through it. The only piece of his I know is the second waltz. Thanks for turning me on to the 4th.

  • @magnuskrook39
    @magnuskrook39 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A suggestion for Sibelius. I hone in on an album with SNO/Gibson on Chandos. If chosen, three quintessential works by Sibelius will be salvaged for posterity: Lemminkäinen Suite, Luonnotar, and The Bard.

    • @anttivirolainen8223
      @anttivirolainen8223 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leif Segerstam's Lemminkäinen recording on Ondine would be another terrific choice. In my opinion it's probably the best recording of Lemminkäinen Suite and the album contains one of the best Tapiolas available (along with Karajan's Tapiola recordings). Lemminkäinen is an uninhibitedly romantic work and Tapiola is an example of late Sibelius's more modern and streamlined approach. Lemminkäinen Suite is basically a symphony and Tapiola has the gravitas of a one movement symphony. I think that it's a great coupling.

  • @thomasherreng3903
    @thomasherreng3903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would keep Symphony n°10. As powerful as the fourth but better integrated formally.

  • @barryguerrero6480
    @barryguerrero6480 ปีที่แล้ว

    4 or 8 for me. But with Shostakovich, there are some symphonies I could easily live without. In particular - for me - 2, 3, 12 and 14. Box set: Petrenko and/or Barshai.

  • @sicimteorici
    @sicimteorici ปีที่แล้ว

    For me it is this Melodiya album: String Quartet No. 3; Two Pieces for String Octet; Piano Quintet played by Borodin Quartet and Sviatoslav Richter in the Quintet.

  • @nicolaa55
    @nicolaa55 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're right--really tough choice, and I partially agree, especially if you're looking at pure music. You hint at my thoughts when you talk about it being on the cusp. So I cheat. I treat 4 and 5 as a whole--the representation of a process. I call 4 "Glorious imperfection" and 5 "Glorious perfection" (and the latter is said laden with the kind of ambiguous irony that we associate with that work). 4 is sprawling and messy but mostly straightforward, full of wtf in a good way, where 5 keeps you guessing--and contains the Largo, the first of his heartwrenching Largos (there's another amazing, underrated one in 6). The first time I heard the 4th live, I just sat there gaping at the wall of sound that hits you in the face, particularly in the first movement and the first coda. The first time I heard the 5th live, I was brought to tears. I didn't know why at the time. I now think I do.
    If you really want to look at an album that might allow you to cheat and also get in another work you mentioned, there is the fascinating premiere recording of both 4 and 13 that stands as, bar none, my favourite Shostakovich recording ever. Not for the sound quality (which isn't wonderful, to put it mildly, but is better than some I've heard), but the for the palpable tension in the air, particularly for the 13th, and for just how fresh and boundary pushing the 4th comes across as, even after being lost for 25 years. And that interesting feeling of knowing that the composer heard this performance as well--you are listening to what he listened to.

  • @richardcaffyn6884
    @richardcaffyn6884 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For Sibelius, I would put forward the album by Neeme Jarvi with the Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra featuring Tapiola, Pohjola's Daughter, Rakastava & the Impromptu for Strings. This is a marvellous representation of some of the best & most original of his works, combining inspiration from the Kalevala, the Finnish landscape & poetry.

  • @mr.beethovenmahlerligeti6700
    @mr.beethovenmahlerligeti6700 ปีที่แล้ว

    A heart choice. But I take his 8th symphony. A piece which is very special for me. Performance sanderling 1997

  • @BVcello
    @BVcello ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave, I have no preference about a Shostakovich suggestion. But I grab the opportunity to make my humble offering to the gods: Mozart and Prokofiev both their Symphonies Concertantes. Both works comprise their essence as composer and are so inventive and rich in character and style...

  • @georgenestler2534
    @georgenestler2534 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 10th is my go to Shostakovich...

  • @michaszpyrka4153
    @michaszpyrka4153 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rachmaninoff - Piano Concerto No 3. This is the only choice

  • @johnstoddart3962
    @johnstoddart3962 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's two out of four for me - Schubert's String Quintet and Shostakovich 4. Still waiting for my ideal recording of both, meanwhile stuck on Kondrashin for the Shostakovich, Aeolian SQ for the Schubert.
    If this series makes it to Mozart, out of the 600-and-odd K's it has to be 491.

  • @HassoBenSoba
    @HassoBenSoba ปีที่แล้ว

    This "spasmodic, unwieldy" ..to which I would add radical, gargantuan, explosive "Send-up" of the symphonic idiom MAY INDEED be the single work that would best represent the volcanic energy and sensationalism of Shostakovich for future generations, but I would still opt for the magnificence, eloquence, power, breadth and brilliance of #10. Yes, it's a less outrageous, daring, electrifying work than the 4th, which means it has to be that much more organically shaped and perfectly controlled to rise to the top of Shostakovich's 15 symphonies, which I believe it does. (#13 would be next). LR

  • @bbailey7818
    @bbailey7818 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want a work "on the cusp" I think Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk is a better choice than the 4th symphony. It was written and premiered just before the denunciation and contains everything Shostakovich is famous for. Social commentary, sharply sardonic and even black humor, tragedy, compassion and all of it musically brilliant and assured that makes it one of the very small handful of seminal and durable operas of the post-Turandot 20th century (and actually a lot better than Turandot.) Shostakovich also gets to display his symphonic chops during the interludes.
    But if I was choosing an album, why not the Ormandy Rostropovich Philly disc with his incomparably fresh, witty and yet serious 1st symphony, the work that made him a worldwide sensation and remains one of the top five firsts ever written? And the album comes coupled with a later great work, the first cello concerto, a DSCH masterpiece.
    I liked your initial idea of Babi Yar, for me the most moving and near perfect of his symphonies, though I admit being biased toward the vocal end of things. It seems to sum up everything that Shostakovich was as an artist and human being. (And if anything grows more timely with each passing day.)
    P.S. If the topic were to name one work of a compose that you would cast into oblivion never to be heard again, I'd bet the Twelfth Symphony would be the near-unanimous choice. 😃

    • @marknewkirk4322
      @marknewkirk4322 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Shostakovich's case, there are a couple of good candidates for the shredder. 12 is bad. I mean, really bad. But The Song of the Forests, Op. 81, might be the piece Shostakovich himself would destroy. It was written in 1949, when he was in the doghouse for the second time, and when some of his best new music (Violin Concerto No. 1, the 4th and 5th string quartets) could not be premiered. While one finds his melodic and harmonic fingerprints, there is not a single hint of inspiration.

  • @maxhirsch7035
    @maxhirsch7035 ปีที่แล้ว

    His fourth symphony is amazing and certainly this choice makes sense, but I'd say his first violin concerto is way up there, and just personally, I'd probably select his 15th symphony. IMO In some ways the fourth is emblematic as a summit of the path not-much-later-traveled by Shostakovich (for obvious reasons of sheer survival, under the historical circumstances!).

  • @jackdahlquist2977
    @jackdahlquist2977 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would choose the Fourteenth Symphony but a lot of other works are in the running.

  • @craigkowald3055
    @craigkowald3055 ปีที่แล้ว

    4th is my choice. The 10th and 5th are the most coherent, and I contend that the 10th is the last symphony written that is canonical core repertoire.

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  ปีที่แล้ว

      That is one of the silliest statements I have ever seen.

  • @snoopyboobs
    @snoopyboobs ปีที่แล้ว

    hmm... can't we sneak in the complete string quartets? If not, then symphony # 5 for me.

  • @chrissahar2014
    @chrissahar2014 ปีที่แล้ว

    His 4th symphony although all of them have great merit.

  • @Scriabinfan593
    @Scriabinfan593 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally I'd pick his 2nd cello concerto.

  • @markdecker2112
    @markdecker2112 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shostakovich 11 would have been my choice - the middle part of the second movement seals it for me.

  • @benjaminharris2043
    @benjaminharris2043 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me, I think it would be the 7th quartet in f# minor. Though if, as you say it's the 'iconic and what this composer will be remembered for' it should be the 8th quartet.
    Composer + work choice for today: Poulenc - Sextet

  • @justinwytmar9309
    @justinwytmar9309 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d keep the “Gran Partita” Wind Serenade for Mozart. The first movement is the most Mozarty Mozart I’ve ever heard.

  • @wakefieldharper6834
    @wakefieldharper6834 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be the eighth for me. If I can't cheat and double count I'll toss a coin between the symphony and SQ.