So Sigma is STILL the champ in APSC with their many year old lenses, this lenses are pretty mediocre at best to be honest, great review Jason, it really helps out because I ALMOST pulled the trigger on these lenses !
@@AndyLSB of course, all opinion. The contemporary series has a lot of CA, except for the 56mm, and maybe the 18-50 (which I haven’t owned. The 16 and especially the 30 have a lot though. The 30 has more than these sirui lenses in my experience. I’d say their build quality is worse than these, though they are sharper. Neither have aperture rings. The 56mm beats sirui’s 56mm by miles in terms of IQ but has little to no character. Really depends on one’s taste. If we’re talking IQ. Viltrox’s PRO series have the crown, especially with the incoming Lab series’ (which is said to be even better than the Pro) 135mm f1.8. Sigma’s 18-35 is solid though. And I wish they would make their Art series glass available for APSC mounts outside of Emount. But for me, Tamron and Viltrox have an edge on sigma when it comes to apsc glass
Like the honesty in this one man. It's nice to actually know what you are getting. I like the teeth on the cine lens, I would like to get one someday BUT I would probably spend more to get "sharper" and less chromatic aberration... I use Fuji cameras these days... I own the XF series but the cine lenses from Fuji are a little on the overly high priced side for a not bright lens
Not sure why anyone would get these (the sniper) over the Sigma series for aps c which certainly focus amazingly and have great optics. (very similar pricing but a bit more). I do want the nightwalker though. Manually focusing, I can deal with some of their optical issues for what they give.
Awesome that your always on top of it- I have made some buying decisions in the past based on a combination of your recommendations & market research 🔬 Your a major inspiration - 🤙
For the price paired with fx30 will be 10stars for SIRU. All the folks who expect glass quality of a Zeiss or GM lens for this price please delete your accounts :))
Thank you so much. Just purchased an FX30 and your videos have been saving me lately, this video included with being torn between this lens set and some other reliable ones for BF deals. Personally will pass on these lenses and see if the updates effect the focusing issues down the road. Much appreciated!!
After watching like 10 lens video reviews lol I'm going to snag a Sigma 16-50 F2.8 for an all rounder (best AF next to Sony lenses without the budget) and probably a F1.4 Viltrox prime lens if I need for lower light siutations (either a 33mm or 56mm I'm still deciding) @@zbyneksurovec
@@romanalexanderavila7263 I too have the FX30 and was in-between buying AF Sniper series or none AF cine lenses but since im a starter in the cinema industry went with Sniper since I don't have a big enough team at the moment but will try and get at least two of he night walker and 1 of the Anamorphic lenses from Sirui but happy with the 3 lens kit I got and for the price the AF and good not the best but good quality built I think they re good lenses for my lens kit I building and I decided to go with all Sirui Lenses from know on since I like the price the built quality and the options they have they are adapting to all gear coming out not like other lenes that just concentrate on certain kind of brands and most don't act the same with other platforms so Sirui if you would like to send me gear to review for my Spanish speaking coummounty I mor than glad to to di for you guys since I work more in the Mexican American culture and even just straight up Mexico ppl since I live in a border town and are always watching and asking about my gear she they see in when filming in Mexico thanks for all the info Jason Morris this helps a lot !!! @Sirui #Siruilenses #Sirui
These are a let down in general. Especially because they'll end up being 1000 for the set after general release. Even if the autofocus wide open inproves the softeness of the 56 and inconsistenct between the 23 and fhe lthwr 2 color wise is annoying
Didn't surprise me to see theses are NOT good lenses, EVEN worse as a 3 pack is as they are very inconsistent! WHEN IT COMES TO QUALITY GLASS, you truly get what you pay for!! QUALITY Lenses are a investment, more than any other gear, as they keep their value. Over time, can even be worth more than you paid for them. Thx for the Honest Review Jason 👍
Thank you for sharing, I am a photographer and I would like to know if this lens is primarily designed for video purposes or if it can also be used for still photography.?
The FX3 is a full frame camera, these lenses are made for 35mm or APSC (crop sensor) cameras. That's why Jason used the fx30 which is a cropped sensor camera for this video. There is nothing (physically) you can do to remove the vigenetting from your footage other than cropping in or using crop mode on your FX3, which will still get good results but you will lose some resolution to your footage shooting in crop.
It might be sensible to use these apse lenses cause of the budget and also the quality of Sony a7iv apsc sensor ? because it sound really nice on the theoricaly 😃
1.2, but the FF equivalent of a 1.8 for depth of field. You will always have the crop factor effect on focal length and depth of field even if the lenses are designed for aps-c. But the light gathering ability is still 1.2 regardless of crop factor.
I really appreciate your reviews and can't think of a more perfect example, as to why, than this. While so many others have completely bashed these lenses, choosing to focus on the negatives, you came out and said, "Here's both sides of the coin." Next to Gerald, you're one of the most honest and straightforward reviewers, I've come to rely on, and unlike Gerald, who's great for the detailed technical stuff, you give me the practical use case information. Between the two of you I feel extremely informed about potential purchases. Plus, I just love your content man. Way to keep it 💯, much love.
Good review, just a shame you didn't touch on the bokeh as a couple of times I was seeing some nice puffy style bokeh that appeared pretty charming. My experience has been that lenses that produce pleasing characterful bokeh tend to also CA quite a lot and something that the user needs to be aware of.
Can anybody tell the image quality difference between Sony 35mm 1.8, Sirui Nightwalker and Sniper for video? Ist the difference only in pictures important?
Hey Jason I have a Q I do tech content and I'm in the middle of doing a iphone 16 vs iphone 14 video but I can't even focus on my phone screens it's just blurry I've tried to change settings on my camera but nothing helps is there an update for this 16mm lens and my camera is zve10 mark 2 thanks
Hello bro, I've been following you for a while now. I rely on your videos to make a purchase. These new lenses. Is it possible for you to make a comparison between Viltrox 23mm and Siriu 23mm? For marriage, what do you think? It is worth it. If possible, more video about it...?
Hello bro, I've been following you for a while now. I rely on your videos to make a purchase. These new lenses. Is it possible for you to make a comparison between Viltrox 23mm and Siriu 23mm? For marriage, what do you think? It is worth it. If possible, more video about it.
Bruh… Sigma is the best one, after Sony. No company beats them at it. Seen Viltrox, have Tamron, had Sigmas, had Sonys. Sigma is next one to get, in terms of reliability.
There’s just all kinda problems with this lens 😅 I typically like sirui for the look that they produce but I’m not really a fan on how these aps-c line looks….
I bought the 33mm and the 56mm. I have to say the 33mm is by far the better one out of the two. I made a visual on my channel if anyone wants to check it out and review the lens for yourself!
Why rushed? People in China work like 24/7. There aren’t many guys in a team, who see things the way actual filmmakers / video makers do. Filmmakers in China just do movies and a lot of improve. They don’t debate for 6 months on what lens to use. “Time and Tide”… And so many others, I assume, just did what they suppose to.
No matter how many issues are with these lenses, you kept repeating they are good/decent 🥲🥲 why should I buy these when I can get sigma in the similar price range 💁🏻♂️
![Overrated: Camera features that don't matter [ft Gerald Undone]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SlLbkeNH9to/mqdefault.jpg)
Sirui have already fixed this focus issue I have had. Like I said they are pre-production copies and focus is one thing that will get better.
Bro I'm from Bharat how to buy this product ?
Any fix of the brutal chromatic aberration ? Thx
@@zrepe no chance. That’s an optical flaw. You can fix it in post with photography very easy. Videos it is much more difficult
Awesome review! Can you compare the Snipers to the Samyang v-AF? That is an apples to apples for ya right there.
Definitely enjoyed testing out the sniper series. Had autofocus issues at first as well but they fixed my issues with the firmware update
Which lenses did you pick up, and what camera are you using them on?
This is the kind of lens tests I like to see. Thank you.
I will always give my honest opinion good or bad
Perfect timing Jason. I was just looking into these. Thank you so much for posting this, massively helpful 👍.
Thanks for watching.
Pre order 56mm for my a6700. I like how dreamy it looks on your video.
So Sigma is STILL the champ in APSC with their many year old lenses, this lenses are pretty mediocre at best to be honest, great review Jason, it really helps out because I ALMOST pulled the trigger on these lenses !
The biggest benefit compared to sigma is that extra bit of light being an f1.2 rather than f1.4
I heavily disagree with that one 😅
@@Eyeofkamau well that’s up to you man, I have the sigmas and they don’t perform as this, soft results wide open and heavy chromatic aberration.
@@AndyLSB sigmas definitely do out perform these in almost every way
@@AndyLSB of course, all opinion. The contemporary series has a lot of CA, except for the 56mm, and maybe the 18-50 (which I haven’t owned. The 16 and especially the 30 have a lot though. The 30 has more than these sirui lenses in my experience. I’d say their build quality is worse than these, though they are sharper. Neither have aperture rings. The 56mm beats sirui’s 56mm by miles in terms of IQ but has little to no character. Really depends on one’s taste. If we’re talking IQ. Viltrox’s PRO series have the crown, especially with the incoming Lab series’ (which is said to be even better than the Pro) 135mm f1.8.
Sigma’s 18-35 is solid though. And I wish they would make their Art series glass available for APSC mounts outside of Emount.
But for me, Tamron and Viltrox have an edge on sigma when it comes to apsc glass
Like the honesty in this one man. It's nice to actually know what you are getting. I like the teeth on the cine lens, I would like to get one someday BUT I would probably spend more to get "sharper" and less chromatic aberration... I use Fuji cameras these days... I own the XF series but the cine lenses from Fuji are a little on the overly high priced side for a not bright lens
Thanks for the review. I'll stay clear then. Was hoping at least one of them was useable wide open.
I wouldn’t really say stay clear. I agree they aren’t optically perfect though
Not sure why anyone would get these (the sniper) over the Sigma series for aps c which certainly focus amazingly and have great optics. (very similar pricing but a bit more). I do want the nightwalker though. Manually focusing, I can deal with some of their optical issues for what they give.
30mm Sigma hunts and has breathing issues. (Just got it, very disappointed)
Awesome that your always on top of it- I have made some buying decisions in the past based on a combination of your recommendations & market research 🔬
Your a major inspiration - 🤙
I’m glad. I always try provide pros and cons to each purchase. Hopefully you get enough info
For the price paired with fx30 will be 10stars for SIRU. All the folks who expect glass quality of a Zeiss or GM lens for this price please delete your accounts :))
Agreed. I think sirui did quite well considering the price. For video they’re pretty good
I can see clearly now!! Nice set!
Thank you so much. Just purchased an FX30 and your videos have been saving me lately, this video included with being torn between this lens set and some other reliable ones for BF deals.
Personally will pass on these lenses and see if the updates effect the focusing issues down the road. Much appreciated!!
Which ones are the other ones you consider?
After watching like 10 lens video reviews lol I'm going to snag a Sigma 16-50 F2.8 for an all rounder (best AF next to Sony lenses without the budget) and probably a F1.4 Viltrox prime lens if I need for lower light siutations (either a 33mm or 56mm I'm still deciding) @@zbyneksurovec
What lenses do you have for the fx30?
@@romanalexanderavila7263 I too have the FX30 and was in-between buying AF Sniper series or none AF cine lenses but since im a starter in the cinema industry went with Sniper since I don't have a big enough team at the moment but will try and get at least two of he night walker and 1 of the Anamorphic lenses from Sirui but happy with the 3 lens kit I got and for the price the AF and good not the best but good quality built I think they re good lenses for my lens kit I building and I decided to go with all Sirui Lenses from know on since I like the price the built quality and the options they have they are adapting to all gear coming out not like other lenes that just concentrate on certain kind of brands and most don't act the same with other platforms so Sirui if you would like to send me gear to review for my Spanish speaking coummounty I mor than glad to to di for you guys since I work more in the Mexican American culture and even just straight up Mexico ppl since I live in a border town and are always watching and asking about my gear she they see in when filming in Mexico thanks for all the info Jason Morris this helps a lot !!! @Sirui #Siruilenses #Sirui
and the all rounder here was sigma 18 - 55mm . the real champ!
How would you think the Sniper series would do for wedding videos on the FX30
These are a let down in general. Especially because they'll end up being 1000 for the set after general release. Even if the autofocus wide open inproves the softeness of the 56 and inconsistenct between the 23 and fhe lthwr 2 color wise is annoying
OMG the flare .... soooooooooooooooo nice!
I know right! I love it
Didn't surprise me to see theses are NOT good lenses, EVEN worse as a 3 pack is as they are very inconsistent! WHEN IT COMES TO QUALITY GLASS, you truly get what you pay for!!
QUALITY Lenses are a investment, more than any other gear, as they keep their value. Over time, can even be worth more than you paid for them. Thx for the Honest Review Jason 👍
besides follow focus, is there any reason to get the nightwalkers over the snipers?
103 now, mate! 🥳
Thank you for sharing,
I am a photographer and I would like to know if this lens is primarily designed for video purposes or if it can also be used for still photography.?
Just got my 23mm, there is a pretty dramatic Vignette when i try to shoot video on my fx3, is this something you experienced?
The FX3 is a full frame camera, these lenses are made for 35mm or APSC (crop sensor) cameras. That's why Jason used the fx30 which is a cropped sensor camera for this video. There is nothing (physically) you can do to remove the vigenetting from your footage other than cropping in or using crop mode on your FX3, which will still get good results but you will lose some resolution to your footage shooting in crop.
It might be sensible to use these apse lenses cause of the budget and also the quality of Sony a7iv apsc sensor ? because it sound really nice on the theoricaly 😃
On set for sure manual. On the go I would love Cine AF. I hope a firmware will resolve these issues.
Hello, Is anyone using Sony a7iv with this lens ? Thanks
Thanks for this video! I think I will pass on these lenses. Do you recommend instead the viltrox 23,33 and 56 for low budget FX30?
Sigma 23, 30, 56 don't cost much more.
Get a used Sony SEL35F1.8 :)
What about stabilization ?
For the price, are they any good or better getting the Viltrox trio?
With these being APSC lenses are they 1.2 or 1.8 (with crop factor)?
1.2, but the FF equivalent of a 1.8 for depth of field. You will always have the crop factor effect on focal length and depth of field even if the lenses are designed for aps-c. But the light gathering ability is still 1.2 regardless of crop factor.
I really appreciate your reviews and can't think of a more perfect example, as to why, than this. While so many others have completely bashed these lenses, choosing to focus on the negatives, you came out and said, "Here's both sides of the coin." Next to Gerald, you're one of the most honest and straightforward reviewers, I've come to rely on, and unlike Gerald, who's great for the detailed technical stuff, you give me the practical use case information. Between the two of you I feel extremely informed about potential purchases. Plus, I just love your content man. Way to keep it 💯, much love.
Great info! Thanks!
Glad you watched it. Hope it helped
can you compare it 56 sniper with sony 50 mm 1.8 oss. quality thanks
Please do they allow screw on filters?
Good review, just a shame you didn't touch on the bokeh as a couple of times I was seeing some nice puffy style bokeh that appeared pretty charming. My experience has been that lenses that produce pleasing characterful bokeh tend to also CA quite a lot and something that the user needs to be aware of.
Well said 💪🏼
thanks for sharing!
My pleasure!
So, for filmaking...Nightwalker or Sniper?
definitely nightwalker, much more better build/quality aka expensive
All I have to say, is "Sigma 18-35 art" 👍 aps-c King.
Also with AF?
night wallker canon rf ????
Can anybody tell the image quality difference between Sony 35mm 1.8, Sirui Nightwalker and Sniper for video? Ist the difference only in pictures important?
Sweet now we need anamorphic with AF!
That’ll be great.
Review samyang V-AF lens ❤
i think u got bad copy of 55mm?
Seems to be consistent with CineD
Hey Jason I have a Q I do tech content and I'm in the middle of doing a iphone 16 vs iphone 14 video but I can't even focus on my phone screens it's just blurry I've tried to change settings on my camera but nothing helps is there an update for this 16mm lens and my camera is zve10 mark 2 thanks
Why dont they make ef, or L mount smh
A6700 🔥🔥🔥 with this
Which lens you paired it with , thinking about buying the 23mm
hope there will be comparation between the sigma trinity
Hello bro, I've been following you for a while now. I rely on your videos to make a purchase. These new lenses. Is it possible for you to make a comparison between Viltrox 23mm and Siriu 23mm? For marriage, what do you think? It is worth it. If possible, more video about it...?
Hello bro, I've been following you for a while now. I rely on your videos to make a purchase. These new lenses. Is it possible for you to make a comparison between Viltrox 23mm and Siriu 23mm? For marriage, what do you think? It is worth it. If possible, more video about it.
i wonder how this lens perform with sigma 56 F1.4 or viltrox 75 F1.2 which one worth the price
If you don’t need 1.2 get sigma
However I don’t think their auto focus and breathing is better than Sirui
Bruh…
Sigma is the best one, after Sony.
No company beats them at it.
Seen Viltrox, have Tamron, had Sigmas, had Sonys.
Sigma is next one to get, in terms of reliability.
Bought the 23mm!
Nice 🔥
There’s just all kinda problems with this lens 😅 I typically like sirui for the look that they produce but I’m not really a fan on how these aps-c line looks….
Great review,
I will not buy them, and I will continue to watch your videos.
great sharing 😍😍
23 and 33mm lenses are really bad at CA and it doesn't really get better by stopping down.
Show. Poderia fazer mais vídeos na, prática com a lente em diversa situações? Noite dia, em igrejas
your review put me off those lenses , thnx! I will keep my sigmas!
I bought the 33mm and the 56mm. I have to say the 33mm is by far the better one out of the two. I made a visual on my channel if anyone wants to check it out and review the lens for yourself!
It's cheap, what do we expect?
Exactly right
will it work with the sony a7siii?
Sabihin mo pls master
how many days was this kept embargo?
Maybe 3-4 weeks
I have immediate distrust of any youtuber who feels the need to add things like "brutally honest" to the title to sound legitimate.
Yeah I’ll stick with sigma
From Brasil.
These seem rushed, no reason to choose these over the sigmas. Looks really good though.
Why rushed?
People in China work like 24/7.
There aren’t many guys in a team, who see things the way actual filmmakers / video makers do.
Filmmakers in China just do movies and a lot of improve.
They don’t debate for 6 months on what lens to use.
“Time and Tide”…
And so many others, I assume, just did what they suppose to.
Yeah nah, Christopher Frost is not going to recommend this lenses
Still waiting his review xD
It's a good 1.2 lens, but don't use the 1.2 lol
56mm 1.2 parece cualquier lente chino barato :/
Those lenses look nice until you put them on the camera 😂
the most sofest hahah
don't waste your money on this lens as its crap.
No matter how many issues are with these lenses, you kept repeating they are good/decent 🥲🥲 why should I buy these when I can get sigma in the similar price range 💁🏻♂️