Sabo's amnesia makes more sense in the original Japanese. He almost definitely knew of Ace and probably new of Luffy, but didnt remember his relationship to them. The reason he suddenly remembered wasn't just from seeing Ace, but from seeing Ace and Luffy, as well as the term sakazuki. Not only is Akainu's real name Sakazuki, the practice of sharing sake cups to swear a bond is called sakazuki in Japanese.
To be fair, he did hint at haki when Luffy realised that Garp's punches hurt him even though he is made of rubber. I think that because Luffy couldn't perceive haki, it wasn't shown until he could perceive haki. Also, it is sea water, not just water. The can do whatever they want in water - as long as it is not sea water, and as long ad they don't try to swim.
That's completely wrong, it's actually all water. Oda specifically said that in one SBS that as long as you are submerged in any water, it'll drain your power. The worst is that the Live Action is also stumbling there, they want to make it easier, but actually confuse the issue even more. Literal statement from SBS 41: "The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water." Here you have it. IT IIIIISSSSS AAAALLLL WAAAATEEEERR! All of it! All Blue, not just some blue.
No it wasnt it was later introduced in the story, haki is something someone can learn by training in skypeia it was something that people know by birth. Also there is plenty of examples of characters that should know it exist and prabobly know how to use it, never using it like ace vs blackbeard or any strong pirate or admiral during paramount war or before it. Also haki is not a secret since it can be taught by others with a lot of practice just by nature of that being the way it works there would be plenty of aspiring pirates or marines that would learn it from a family or someone training them just like some characters in wano will taught to use it. There were examples of power like that being used earlier in the story but it wasnt planned as haki at the moment that was later on added in the story.
@@yyy76yyvhxxffb32 So? it doesnt mean anything. Haki can be taught and is not some secret technique if it was planned at the start of the story it would be very common to see it throughout grand line especially by character that should have known it. Just because you have something that later became haki doesnt mean it was planned early.
@@sgnox7781 do you know what is even conqueror haki? Of course he did not post it in the start because its more interesting to have a new world with new adventures and new powers Thats what grand line does and oda putted it this way so that more people are interested in the show because it makes the plot better
@@yyy76yyvhxxffb32 Im not talking conqueror in specific any form of haki would be used regularly. Also oda said that to be vice admiral you need to master 2 forms of haki and none of the vice admiral used them pre timeskip... Oda didnt plan for the story to go for so long, it just kinda did and yea he needed to get a powerup so he looked what was in the story and turned it into haki, like it would make 0 sense for the story to not have it before.
Yeah, character statements cannot really be plotholes. I mean, if I told you there are only 5000 kind of fish, you would not believe me just because I can turn into one, right?
The enma one isn’t a mistake, the legendary sword which was used by oden was remade by melting it so that momonosuke but zoro got the sword instead, that’s why ot fits him so well
4:38 He didnt remember it yea he did read the devil fruit encyclopia but he only cared about the fruit that grants the user invisblity plus he was a kid when he read it and he most likely didnt encounter devil users between then and when he met luffy so he would have forgotten about the side effect of eating a devil and he remembered at baratie because of meeting luffy
A lot of people bring up Pell and 5 flying fruits, but I've yet to see someone actually researching the original source in Japanese. Even then, maybe Pell implied that there are 5 bird fruits, and that feels accurate, as between Pell, Marco, Morgans and (possibly) Laffitte, we still haven't seen five.
or, and hear me out on this, we should probably stop taking everyone's quotes as face value of what facts are and take them as knowledge that they have. Jesus these kinds of points make me irritated. I swear 'plot holes' are just another name for 'he didn't say the thing right' -_-
Wrong: SBS 41 Oda says "The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water." Meaning that it is not important if salt or sea water or heavy or deluded water. It is a common misconception and the Live Action made it even worse, because they furthered that misconception. Argue with Oda about that one, not with me. Any water can make devil fruit go limb.
@@J.D.J.DWrong. In Wano the water that is accumulated is rain water and Kinemon was able to hide underwater. Luffy and the crew take plenty of baths. By the logic you explained, they wouldn’t be able to drink water..
@@andreiflorin8437 Also, you’re forgetting the part where they said "standing water" so they could take showers. Also, devil fruit users can bathe. Just as long as the water doesn’t submerge around half of the user's body, they can still move and use their devil fruits only when it is past that is when it becomes a problem.
About Luffy being captured because of the D clan, the bounty wasn't issued by the gorrosei. It was issued by east blue marines. Not every one knows about the D clan or rogers hat. I MEAN ITS JUST A HAT FAKE LUFFY HAD ONE TOO.
Hey, there was haki pre timeskip, all the way to the first chapter with shanks. In skypea most fights used observation haki, and garp used armament haki on luffy too. It was just not colored black prob bcs the decision to color it came later
wrong oda didn’t have haki as a concept until later in the story ace says “you might be smoke but in fire. a match between our abilities won’t get us anywhere” so unless he’s stupid and forgot that haki exists then oda didn’t have it in mind until later
@@elanadeshina1489 this could be literally be just ace not wanting to use haki. And you dont explain how all the occasions in which haki is the only explanation, like mantra usage, garp hurting luffy, rayleigh hitting kizaru, whitebeard hitting akainu.
@@TheKillerJin “ace didn’t want to use haki” is the craziest cope i’ve ever seen, but i misread what dude said he definitely had it thought out before the time skip just not as soon as y’all think. also mantra is just a generic anime power that doesn’t prove anything. i guess the uchihas have observation haki too
@@elanadeshina1489 mantra is generic, haha, it was literally referenced when rayleigh was explaining haki. And you didnt explain garp, shanks and every usage. I dont mean to say oda thought of everything before, but definetely he knew the extent of how the power would work. You dont seem keen on having a real discussion, just repeating your opinion at every reply. See ya
about haki , best answer i can give is while Rayleigh training Luffy he Explains Haki 1. Everybody has Obs n Arnament haki, but they need training 2.there are so many scenes in Post time skip Zoro, Luffy , Sanji, and Ussop using OBS HAKI 3.Enel mastered Obs haki 4. Kuja pirates used Arnament Haki & Garp used to beat Luffy using Arnament haki, but it's not animated as current Arnament haki style 5. Shanks used Conquerors haki
The 5 points technique used by CP9 were Haki; they use observation Haki in Skypea (call it mantra). Forms of Haki were introduced in every post Red Line arc...
ODA ORIGINALLY PLANNED KUMA TO BE THE EMPEROR. The picture of the emporerors is more similar to kuma than anybody else. Given how big of a role kuma plays in the story, oda probably hat many ideas for him.
That doesn't really fit with the introduction time. And if anything the silhouette does not look like Kuma or Kaido (more like Sentoumaru tbh)... but that's pretty much the case for most silhouettes, none really look right. Oda just doesn't like to reveal designs because he likes to change them until the last point and Kuma was introduced long before the Emporers.
Im sorry, but that is Just wrong and makes no sense. The silluette looks nothing like Kuma at all. + it is obvious that it was Just Kaido... Its own character. WHY are you talking about Kuma here????? It would be a massive plot hole if that was Kuma
WG wont let Chopper's bounty go up because they'd have to deal with people bringing some random deer, claiming it's chopper, and requesting for the reward. Same goes for Bepo. Simple as that.
when luffy was learning haki with rayleigh he had flashbacks of his previous fights and it shows all the different enemies that used haki, Eneru from Skypiea used it as well, you dont really notice because the sky people call it mantra.
I think that they didn't go after Luffy because he hadn't caused much trouble to that noticeable for Im. Im is at the top of the world, so only matter of utmost significance and over the power of kingdoms would matter to Im. Plus, Luffy is the grandson of Garp, which might have made Sengoku go easier on him. Also, I'm pretty sure Chopper's bounty is divided by 10000 or something for comedic effect and multiplying it with that number, you'd get his actual bounty.
they didnt go after luffy because he hasnt caused much trouble... thats laughable to me , in fact its more of a reason to go after him before he awakens the fruit power especially that he is a D clan member. however luffy being garp's grandson might be a more logical reason to why they went ezz on him, maybe garp was doing some work behind the scenes, or maybe they were just too afraid of garp going berserk mode on them if they kill his grandson
On the luffy one, The world government just did not know where he was. Luffy wasn't truly noticed by the World Government until after he took down crocodile. But by then he disappeared off into the Red Line and the government had no means to track or find him. His next big appearance was at Enies Lobby, where they knew he was there but he escaped. Again the Government only knew his location at Sabaody, where he escaped due to Kuma's betrayal. Again he miraculously appeared at Impel Down but the governments focus was at Marine Ford where Luffy rocked up. He just marginally escaped from the banded efforts of Whitebeards fleet. Luffy dropped off the face of existence for 2 years, then disappeared off into the New World where they couldnt track him. World Government only heard about him again from the underworld where he had terrorised Big Mom's land and was headed to Wano. Which the World Government sent a full fleet to Wano. Too Long Didnt Read: The World Government legitimately had no idea where Luffy was for most of his journey. And when they did find and hunt him down, due to several people betraying the world government, or massive wars/ chaos, luffy was barely able to escape. They knew of Luffy, but didn't know his whereabouts only where he had last been seen. And since none of the Worst Generation really encountered eachother until Sabaody, it is quite reasonable to believe they couldn't successfully track him. Aokiji finding the straw hats was a fluke, as he was doing his own thing and more interested in Nico Robin.
But in Sapaody they didn't put any effort in capturing him until he punched a Celestial Dragon. Even so only Kizaru went out out of his own volition. I don't want to be right about it, I hate plot holes, but I think it is very strange how neglectful the WG was regarding Luffy having a mythical DF they wanted so much. I'm not up to date with OP. I hope Oda already explained it.
When I clicked this video. And when I saw the thumbnail. I never realized Shanks concept before one piece was released he originally was either a woman or a Femboy.
9:37 The explanation for this pothole is that the devilfruit users's weakness to water only counts for seawater , but if a devilfruit user's body is mostly submerged in any water the weakening of the devilfruit user will happen.
You are 💯 right... Especially with haki where Ace & Smoker fight and claim there could be no winner due to their devil fruits meanwhile, the one with the strongest haki should win
I noticed that at 2:16, when Yeagerists starts doing that subscribe part that all youtubers do, the subscribe button starts sparkling. Idk if its only for pc, but just something cool I noticed.
The government didn’t give rid of luffy because they thought someone like him would never awaken that DF cause many people ate that fruit but didn’t awaken it since 800 years
To be clear: In SBS 41 Oda says concerning the sea that is the enemy of all devil fruit users: "The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water." Meaning that it is not important if salt or sea water or heavy or deluded water. It is a common misconception and the Live Action made it even worse, because they furthered that misconception. Argue with Oda about that one, not with me. Any water can make devil fruit go limb, but not water guns or showers when you are submerged to a certain degree.
Cp 9 actually used haki as they do dodge the attacks which they called shave(observation) and iron body (armament)🙃🙃 There are many more like shanks Enel etc. And as I know oda said that haki is actually invisible.
To explain the rocks one it seems as if the rocks pirates all came together for a common goal. Similar to blackbeard or buggys crews. It was quickly thrown together and only the real big time pirates knew who they were
The most frustrating part about One Piece was the height difference, how inconsistent some of the characters were drawn or animated. The biggest reason why some of my friends refrain from reading One Piece manga or wacthing the anime.
ok but the thing with sanji, I can totally justify. I just graduated with a degree in cybersecurity and less than a year ago (bachelors btw), I was in an interview and spaced out on DNS. If you dont know how big of a blunder that is, it's like forgetting what 'E' means for your car's e-brake.
these are some crazy plotholes but for the lucky rou one, seeing as he is always eating a piece of meat, it aint surprising that he became big in 10 years. For the Oden one, i heard a theory that Enma shrank due to not getting Haki for 20 years. The Pell one, the real reason is most probably Oda comeing up with the idea and thn later on scrapping it. But if we take a lore approach it is possible that there are only 5 existing fly fruits in Pell's knowledge. The Sanji one, maybe the encyclopedia that he read just didnt have the seawater fact in it. The yonko one, the picture of Kaido behind Garp does look kinda like Kaido, maybe its a younger Kaido. The air bubble one, come on bro srsly. Luffy's fruit allows to do anything he imagines so he should be able to just create air and did it unintentionally. For the last one, only "SEAWATER" affects DF users and they have to be at least half submerged in it. So that Boa bath water thing isnt a mistake. And for when Luffy take bath, you know Luffy has negative IQ so he just dumb and overexaggerates it.
All water affects devil fruits. In SBS 41 Oda says "The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water." The anime and the live action do that wrong several times, making the misconception bigger. Any specifically standing water is enough. The bath scenes thoughout One Piece make no sense, because Oda does not want to capture Luffy drowning every time he enters a bath. So he just ignores it for those scenes. But any person with a water ability like a "tea tea no mi" is literally able to drown all devil druit users. That's why there are barely anyfruits like that.
0:45 it’s a cursed sword, maybe it changes size to match the users size, As far as we know the one piece world is way diffrent than ours, so it might be a possibility
The Mr. 3 one was explained by Oda at some point. I think he said Mr. 3 was laying on a piece of a drift wood and thats how he was floating. xD In reality Oda probably just forgot and made that up. lol
in one piece devil fruit users cannot be in the sea or in sea water. due to this a likely reason that boa didnt feel fatigue during the bath scene is because of the water being fresh water instead of sea water. for luffy taking a bath and feeling fatigue in the later episode, you could most likely assume that the natural hot spring that was used for the baths was connected to the sea (making the bathwater sea water and not fresh water)
I do agree with the sea water one, because in Whole Cake Island, how the hell does Oven not collapse or at the very least why does the water not nullify his powers as soon as he dips them in the water to boil the sea. He’s immersed his fists in sea water even as they chase the straw hats. So, can devil fruit powers work in the sea so long as you are mostly dry? That doesn’t make sense. Smoker literally jabs Luffy in spot with his sea prism stone rod and he’s unable to use his powers. Even touching sea prism stone bars disables Luffy.
In the bubble thing that luffy used gear 3 in,he had a bunch of air because of the god powers he had,even if he hadnt awaken it ,it still applies for some little things.
I think it is just sea water and not pure water, because remember, Boa wouldn't want to lose her beauty, and she is obviously smart enough to not go into sea water. Also, Kaido's crew kept all of the drink water to themselves, and even if the water Kinemon was hiding in was dirty, the chemicals might have cause a chemical reaction causing him to be able to float, i dont know about Galdino/Mr 3.
9:27 the reason why when boa was taking a shower and dirint feel weak is because it was shallow water as you know in that same episode fluffy fell in he though he was gonna drown but then he said "oh never mind is shallow" or something along those lines and he felt fine but in the scene where he was taking a shower the water was not shallow but deep or it could mean that he was just relaxing cause it was a sona when everyone goes and relax also idk if you guys saw the movie where kuzan was taking a bath he dirint feel weak he just "walked it off" like if it was nothing. my guess is and probably is correct the reason devil fruit users don't get weak in showers or bath but do in the ocean is because of the SALT WATER cause in every episode where there taking a bath none of the fruit users are weak only in the ocean there weak.
9:26 Here's another thing that I'm curious about. Because the air Luffy sucks in, is not the size his fist becomes. So I think the air suck and the and the thumb blow are for show. So it's very possible that his cells just stretch and grow, making his forearms bigger. This theory is somewhat supported by the fact that Gear 5 Luffy didn't need to take a deep breath to become gigantic; otherwise he would have inhaled the whole cloud that was above him. He probably just does it to stretch his body in preparation for growth, like a balloon. Which could also mean that it's very possible that there's a limit to his gigantism - a.k.a Luffy can be popped. Either that or he could become so big that the ocean (like rain water) won't effect him in the least. Thus his devil fruit would imply that Luffy has the power to literally destroy the world, 8f he becomes truly free. As true freedom, is *absolutel*.
One plot hole that actually makes sense is the one about chopper's low bounty. I think that the world government didn't want to be scammed by some guy claiming to be giving them the real Tony Tony Chopper, when it's just a normal animal that's just eaten the hito hito no mi and is wearing a replica of Chopper's hat. That would be a good reason.
For Blackbeard vs Ace, although Haki wasn't mentioned, it was however mentioned before that when Shanks met with Whitebeard so I don't think that counts. While Chopper bounty, they wanted to tune it down kinda like what they did with Gear 5 just to hide how dangerous they truly are. It's lile saying even their pet is 100 times stronger than others and they didn't wanted to give that kind of information, hence why that bear in Law crew also has low bounty if I recall. I agree with everything else though, lol 😂
Isnt haki supposed to be invisible? We didn't know it existed back then so they didnt show it. It still existed but we didnt know it was "haki" . For example: Skypeia
I think i could explain some plot holes here. The reason why luffy doesn't been capture early because his bounty are still low and there is some devil fruit that makes your body elastic similar to gum gum no mi. So maybe they though that its just a normal df user pirates with no treat. Chopper bounty is low because he is a reindeer. Anyone could shows up and bring a random ass reindeer saying its chopper.
@@SawyerFan.1 both parts of this are true with boas sisters using haki and luffy not knowing what was happening and how shanks make the sea beast back off my looking at it.(dawg his haki sound even played💀)
I'm pretty sure why chopper's bounty is low is because it's a gag and it's because they don't want people just bringing animals claiming that it's chopper
first of all thank you for watching the entire One piece till now. for making this video or not i bet you also loving the masterpiece. and for me for the all one piece fans bro This is the greatest anime of all time. dosent matter who says what.
The thing about half of these plot holes is that they can literally be fixed by erasing a line or tinkering some panels. Like the one about 5 Flying Devil Fruits. It's a throwaway line to hype up Pell. Oda could easily remove it and it wouldn't affect anything. Also, the scaling is always weird in anime. Did you know the Colossal Titan and the Walls in AoT look WAY bigger than they actually are? There is even a video proving that. Or that when Trunks fought King Cold in DBZ, his sword got bigger in Cold's hands. I could honestly talk about the other "plot holes", but I will just correct some things. Sanji is no DF nerd. He himself said he couldn't care about cursed fruit nonsense. The one thing that caught his attention was the Clear Clear fruit (for obvious reasons). So it's natural that he forgot the "not being able to swim" part. Who the hell remembers every part of a book that they barely cared about? As for Haki, there were hints, but it's more like Oda was actively not mentioning it. I could bring examples, but this would be way too long.
Ive seen people be very confused in the comments about the whole devil fruit/water stuff. Devil fruit users are affected by all types of water, but the amount of weakness they gain is proportional to how much of their bodies are submerged or covered in water. In Hancock's bath scene, the majority of her body is not in the bath, hence why she is not weak. Source: SBS Chapter 398 "D: Odacchi! Here's a question for you! Crocodile can't fight water because he's "sand," right? Then how does he bathe?! Does he at all?! That's filthy!! Do you bathe, Odacchi? by Crocodile's Mother O: First of all, let's discuss the problem of Devil Fruit users bathing themselves. People who have eaten a Devil Fruit are "hated" by the sea, and cannot swim. The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water. On a worldwide level, they are all the "sea." When these people enter the water, not only can they not use their powers, they have trouble moving their bodies at all. They might be able to struggle a bit, but it wouldn't do much good. That's if their entire bodies are submerged in the "sea." With less than half the body or just the limbs, it gets easier. Also, rain and dripping water have no effect at all. Therefore, hip baths or showers are the most common choice. Now, in Crocodile's case, "water" is the weakness of his very powers, so his abilities are robbed even in the shower. But it's not like there are enemies around when you take a shower, so I'd bet he would take them even with his powers being blocked. Don't you think? ---And to answer your final question, about myself bathing. As it happens, I do bathe. Twice! In a year!"
The only real one I can think of is when Smoker is talking to Ace in the restaurant and Luffy rockets into his back, knocking both of them into the wall instead of logia stuff happening.
Are there any plot holes we missed?
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@@JJTHEGOATXnah im first
It feels illegal to be early
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Idkkkkkk meybe
Sabo's amnesia makes more sense in the original Japanese. He almost definitely knew of Ace and probably new of Luffy, but didnt remember his relationship to them. The reason he suddenly remembered wasn't just from seeing Ace, but from seeing Ace and Luffy, as well as the term sakazuki. Not only is Akainu's real name Sakazuki, the practice of sharing sake cups to swear a bond is called sakazuki in Japanese.
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In oda we trust
In flashback they show he can sometimes remember ace and luffy's faces but he doesn't know who they are
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To be fair, he did hint at haki when Luffy realised that Garp's punches hurt him even though he is made of rubber. I think that because Luffy couldn't perceive haki, it wasn't shown until he could perceive haki. Also, it is sea water, not just water. The can do whatever they want in water - as long as it is not sea water, and as long ad they don't try to swim.
The fact smoker exists shows he clearly had something in mind just hadn't fully worked out yet, most these 'plot holes' r bs 😂
Haki os only visible to us there ks no actual visible thing in the verse
Yes. that is why I said 'perceive' not 'see'.@@kiasack
That's completely wrong, it's actually all water. Oda specifically said that in one SBS that as long as you are submerged in any water, it'll drain your power.
The worst is that the Live Action is also stumbling there, they want to make it easier, but actually confuse the issue even more.
Literal statement from SBS 41: "The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water."
Here you have it. IT IIIIISSSSS AAAALLLL WAAAATEEEERR! All of it! All Blue, not just some blue.
absolutely not true even normal water affect fruit devil users
Haki as always been around pre time skip. Oda just didnt tell us what it was. The entire skypia arc observation haki
No it wasnt it was later introduced in the story, haki is something someone can learn by training in skypeia it was something that people know by birth. Also there is plenty of examples of characters that should know it exist and prabobly know how to use it, never using it like ace vs blackbeard or any strong pirate or admiral during paramount war or before it. Also haki is not a secret since it can be taught by others with a lot of practice just by nature of that being the way it works there would be plenty of aspiring pirates or marines that would learn it from a family or someone training them just like some characters in wano will taught to use it. There were examples of power like that being used earlier in the story but it wasnt planned as haki at the moment that was later on added in the story.
@@sgnox7781 you dont know how shanks saved luffy from the fish?
@@yyy76yyvhxxffb32 So? it doesnt mean anything. Haki can be taught and is not some secret technique if it was planned at the start of the story it would be very common to see it throughout grand line especially by character that should have known it. Just because you have something that later became haki doesnt mean it was planned early.
@@sgnox7781 do you know what is even conqueror haki?
Of course he did not post it in the start because its more interesting to have a new world with new adventures and new powers
Thats what grand line does and oda putted it this way so that more people are interested in the show because it makes the plot better
@@yyy76yyvhxxffb32 Im not talking conqueror in specific any form of haki would be used regularly. Also oda said that to be vice admiral you need to master 2 forms of haki and none of the vice admiral used them pre timeskip... Oda didnt plan for the story to go for so long, it just kinda did and yea he needed to get a powerup so he looked what was in the story and turned it into haki, like it would make 0 sense for the story to not have it before.
I don't think pell's statement counts as he said there are 5 IDENTIFIED devil fruits so it's possible that there were more he didn't know about.
Yeah, character statements cannot really be plotholes. I mean, if I told you there are only 5000 kind of fish, you would not believe me just because I can turn into one, right?
I think he meant flying zoans but idk
@@Eyyyy_itsalveeI though he meant bird fruits
The enma one isn’t a mistake, the legendary sword which was used by oden was remade by melting it so that momonosuke but zoro got the sword instead, that’s why ot fits him so well
Nah that never happened bro. If you have the page, I'd love to see it lol
ah, got it. The legendary sword Enma was remade and ended up with Zoro, fitting him perfectly.
I came here to say this. Haters gonna nitpick.
I thought Enma adapts its size to the user
yep, Enma can adapt its size to the user.@@jannisk4956
4:38 He didnt remember it yea he did read the devil fruit encyclopia but he only cared about the fruit that grants the user invisblity plus he was a kid when he read it and he most likely didnt encounter devil users between then and when he met luffy so he would have forgotten about the side effect of eating a devil and he remembered at baratie because of meeting luffy
A lot of people bring up Pell and 5 flying fruits, but I've yet to see someone actually researching the original source in Japanese. Even then, maybe Pell implied that there are 5 bird fruits, and that feels accurate, as between Pell, Marco, Morgans and (possibly) Laffitte, we still haven't seen five.
Idk i think this would be it cause while a lot of logias allow their users to float idk if it call it flying in the same way pell explains it
What if Blackbeard’s third devil fruit is the Bird-Bird fruit Model: Fallen Flamingo Angel.
or, and hear me out on this, we should probably stop taking everyone's quotes as face value of what facts are and take them as knowledge that they have. Jesus these kinds of points make me irritated. I swear 'plot holes' are just another name for 'he didn't say the thing right' -_-
Exactly bro
This makes a lot of sense.
How did shanks scare off the sea king? That was Haki introduced so early
If you have the time to do that you had the time to block it with armament
@@chromephone so shanks use kings haki to scare off the seaking but not use arnament haki to protect his arm lol
The Seaking wasn't going to take Shanks arm,i think someone suggested to Oda to let that happen to make the scene more impactful.
@@chaddfrancis2179or Maybe Snitch Shanks lost his arm on purpose to manipulate Luffy.
@FantasyCat1 oda said it himself... he cut it off so shanks will be more interesting...end of discussion about the arm...nabnut
For the last one only sea water or salt water affects devil fruit users
and if the water is up to the waist or higher
Wrong: SBS 41 Oda says "The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water." Meaning that it is not important if salt or sea water or heavy or deluded water.
It is a common misconception and the Live Action made it even worse, because they furthered that misconception.
Argue with Oda about that one, not with me. Any water can make devil fruit go limb.
@@J.D.J.DWrong. In Wano the water that is accumulated is rain water and Kinemon was able to hide underwater. Luffy and the crew take plenty of baths. By the logic you explained, they wouldn’t be able to drink water..
@@andreiflorin8437it’s all water and that scene you’re talking about is anime only.
@@andreiflorin8437 Also, you’re forgetting the part where they said "standing water" so they could take showers. Also, devil fruit users can bathe. Just as long as the water doesn’t submerge around half of the user's body, they can still move and use their devil fruits only when it is past that is when it becomes a problem.
About Luffy being captured because of the D clan, the bounty wasn't issued by the gorrosei. It was issued by east blue marines. Not every one knows about the D clan or rogers hat. I MEAN ITS JUST A HAT FAKE LUFFY HAD ONE TOO.
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5:56 shanks used haki to protect luffy
Hey, there was haki pre timeskip, all the way to the first chapter with shanks. In skypea most fights used observation haki, and garp used armament haki on luffy too. It was just not colored black prob bcs the decision to color it came later
wrong oda didn’t have haki as a concept until later in the story ace says “you might be smoke but in fire. a match between our abilities won’t get us anywhere” so unless he’s stupid and forgot that haki exists then oda didn’t have it in mind until later
@@elanadeshina1489bro mantra is literally what skypieans call haki and it’s cleary shown being used in Skypia that’s why it’s such an important arc
@@elanadeshina1489 this could be literally be just ace not wanting to use haki. And you dont explain how all the occasions in which haki is the only explanation, like mantra usage, garp hurting luffy, rayleigh hitting kizaru, whitebeard hitting akainu.
@@TheKillerJin “ace didn’t want to use haki” is the craziest cope i’ve ever seen, but i misread what dude said he definitely had it thought out before the time skip just not as soon as y’all think. also mantra is just a generic anime power that doesn’t prove anything. i guess the uchihas have observation haki too
@@elanadeshina1489 mantra is generic, haha, it was literally referenced when rayleigh was explaining haki. And you didnt explain garp, shanks and every usage. I dont mean to say oda thought of everything before, but definetely he knew the extent of how the power would work.
You dont seem keen on having a real discussion, just repeating your opinion at every reply. See ya
about haki , best answer i can give is while Rayleigh training Luffy he Explains Haki
1. Everybody has Obs n Arnament haki, but they need training
2.there are so many scenes in Post time skip Zoro, Luffy , Sanji, and Ussop using OBS HAKI
3.Enel mastered Obs haki
4. Kuja pirates used Arnament Haki & Garp used to beat Luffy using Arnament haki, but it's not animated as current Arnament haki style
5. Shanks used Conquerors haki
Garp didnt Use Haki on Luffy, Oda debunked it
@@SawyerFan.1 literally luffy said Only Garp punches were painful, which means Kid luffy getting beaten by Arnament haki coated fist.
@@attitudeshorts6413 Again, Debunked by Oda
Love can bypass it too shown by his crew and Nami
@@SawyerFan.1 What debunk? Oda didn't said about it only Garp
@@riji7513 English..? Like idek what youre saying
The 5 points technique used by CP9 were Haki; they use observation Haki in Skypea (call it mantra). Forms of Haki were introduced in every post Red Line arc...
Six powers aint haki lol
@@powerscallingfiend half of the onepiece fans are smoking crack like this youtuber and this comment section
ODA ORIGINALLY PLANNED KUMA TO BE THE EMPEROR. The picture of the emporerors is more similar to kuma than anybody else. Given how big of a role kuma plays in the story, oda probably hat many ideas for him.
That doesn't really fit with the introduction time. And if anything the silhouette does not look like Kuma or Kaido (more like Sentoumaru tbh)... but that's pretty much the case for most silhouettes, none really look right. Oda just doesn't like to reveal designs because he likes to change them until the last point and Kuma was introduced long before the Emporers.
Im sorry, but that is Just wrong and makes no sense. The silluette looks nothing like Kuma at all. + it is obvious that it was Just Kaido... Its own character. WHY are you talking about Kuma here????? It would be a massive plot hole if that was Kuma
1:15 5 indentified types this could just mean pell just didn't know about the others
WG wont let Chopper's bounty go up because they'd have to deal with people bringing some random deer, claiming it's chopper, and requesting for the reward. Same goes for Bepo. Simple as that.
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0:42 And then you realize that oden swords were suppose his kids and were mostly like reforged for momo and hiyori to use them
your last one completely blow my mind really those mistakes r so silly we also IGNORE them lol
there not mistakes devil fruit user are only weak to salt water and get complitly immobile if the water is above there waist
when luffy was learning haki with rayleigh he had flashbacks of his previous fights and it shows all the different enemies that used haki, Eneru from Skypiea used it as well, you dont really notice because the sky people call it mantra.
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I am pretty sure that only salt water defects the devil fruit users
Yes only seawater I think
Nope, still water defects the devil fruit user and also if they are submerged enough
Haki always has been here at the beginning of the show shanks used haki to scare away the sea monster
I think that they didn't go after Luffy because he hadn't caused much trouble to that noticeable for Im. Im is at the top of the world, so only matter of utmost significance and over the power of kingdoms would matter to Im. Plus, Luffy is the grandson of Garp, which might have made Sengoku go easier on him.
Also, I'm pretty sure Chopper's bounty is divided by 10000 or something for comedic effect and multiplying it with that number, you'd get his actual bounty.
they didnt go after luffy because he hasnt caused much trouble... thats laughable to me , in fact its more of a reason to go after him before he awakens the fruit power especially that he is a D clan member.
however luffy being garp's grandson might be a more logical reason to why they went ezz on him, maybe garp was doing some work behind the scenes, or maybe they were just too afraid of garp going berserk mode on them if they kill his grandson
On the luffy one, The world government just did not know where he was. Luffy wasn't truly noticed by the World Government until after he took down crocodile. But by then he disappeared off into the Red Line and the government had no means to track or find him. His next big appearance was at Enies Lobby, where they knew he was there but he escaped. Again the Government only knew his location at Sabaody, where he escaped due to Kuma's betrayal. Again he miraculously appeared at Impel Down but the governments focus was at Marine Ford where Luffy rocked up. He just marginally escaped from the banded efforts of Whitebeards fleet. Luffy dropped off the face of existence for 2 years, then disappeared off into the New World where they couldnt track him. World Government only heard about him again from the underworld where he had terrorised Big Mom's land and was headed to Wano. Which the World Government sent a full fleet to Wano.
Too Long Didnt Read: The World Government legitimately had no idea where Luffy was for most of his journey. And when they did find and hunt him down, due to several people betraying the world government, or massive wars/ chaos, luffy was barely able to escape. They knew of Luffy, but didn't know his whereabouts only where he had last been seen. And since none of the Worst Generation really encountered eachother until Sabaody, it is quite reasonable to believe they couldn't successfully track him. Aokiji finding the straw hats was a fluke, as he was doing his own thing and more interested in Nico Robin.
But in Sapaody they didn't put any effort in capturing him until he punched a Celestial Dragon. Even so only Kizaru went out out of his own volition. I don't want to be right about it, I hate plot holes, but I think it is very strange how neglectful the WG was regarding Luffy having a mythical DF they wanted so much.
I'm not up to date with OP. I hope Oda already explained it.
When I clicked this video. And when I saw the thumbnail. I never realized Shanks concept before one piece was released he originally was either a woman or a Femboy.
6:33 i think kaido looked like that because maybe he didn't have a mustache and beard in pre timeskip
You cant be in salt water when you eat a devil fruit. Thats why Boa didnt feel weak
3:23 if they eliminated him before he could awaken he would turn into gear 5 because it can only activate when he dies
5:50 AHEM LIKE EP 3 SHANK SCARED A SB WITH CONQUERUS HAKI?!
I think we seen shanks using conqueror haki against white beard way before sabaody 😅
9:37 The explanation for this pothole is that the devilfruit users's weakness to water only counts for seawater , but if a devilfruit user's body is mostly submerged in any water the weakening of the devilfruit user will happen.
you deserve the sub . good work
You are 💯 right... Especially with haki where Ace & Smoker fight and claim there could be no winner due to their devil fruits meanwhile, the one with the strongest haki should win
To be fair, chopper has a low bounty, because anyone could just turn in a reindeer with a hat, and get free money
I noticed that at 2:16, when Yeagerists starts doing that subscribe part that all youtubers do, the subscribe button starts sparkling. Idk if its only for pc, but just something cool I noticed.
8:50 I guess the answer is that Luffy imagined there was no air limit? also what if Luffy imagined he could swim in water?
The government didn’t give rid of luffy because they thought someone like him would never awaken that DF cause many people ate that fruit but didn’t awaken it since 800 years
To be clear: In SBS 41 Oda says concerning the sea that is the enemy of all devil fruit users: "The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water." Meaning that it is not important if salt or sea water or heavy or deluded water.
It is a common misconception and the Live Action made it even worse, because they furthered that misconception.
Argue with Oda about that one, not with me. Any water can make devil fruit go limb, but not water guns or showers when you are submerged to a certain degree.
Cp 9 actually used haki as they do dodge the attacks which they called shave(observation)
and iron body (armament)🙃🙃
There are many more like shanks Enel etc.
And as I know oda said that haki is actually invisible.
Bull
shit
Six powers IS NOT Haki, Shave isalso a totally different thing than you described.
pretty sure he meant bird type fruits.
Love the vids
To explain the rocks one it seems as if the rocks pirates all came together for a common goal. Similar to blackbeard or buggys crews. It was quickly thrown together and only the real big time pirates knew who they were
3:14 maybe because his awakening comes at near death experience or something
The most frustrating part about One Piece was the height difference, how inconsistent some of the characters were drawn or animated. The biggest reason why some of my friends refrain from reading One Piece manga or wacthing the anime.
Enel used haki in the form of Mantra. It was mentioned by Rayleigh when he trained Luffy.
ok but the thing with sanji, I can totally justify. I just graduated with a degree in cybersecurity and less than a year ago (bachelors btw), I was in an interview and spaced out on DNS. If you dont know how big of a blunder that is, it's like forgetting what 'E' means for your car's e-brake.
Shanks uses haki against the sea beast to get him away and in episode 4 the flashback is there
hancock wasnt the only one having a relaxing time taking a bath i was too
these are some crazy plotholes but for the lucky rou one, seeing as he is always eating a piece of meat, it aint surprising that he became big in 10 years.
For the Oden one, i heard a theory that Enma shrank due to not getting Haki for 20 years.
The Pell one, the real reason is most probably Oda comeing up with the idea and thn later on scrapping it. But if we take a lore approach it is possible that there are only 5 existing fly fruits in Pell's knowledge.
The Sanji one, maybe the encyclopedia that he read just didnt have the seawater fact in it.
The yonko one, the picture of Kaido behind Garp does look kinda like Kaido, maybe its a younger Kaido.
The air bubble one, come on bro srsly. Luffy's fruit allows to do anything he imagines so he should be able to just create air and did it unintentionally.
For the last one, only "SEAWATER" affects DF users and they have to be at least half submerged in it. So that Boa bath water thing isnt a mistake. And for when Luffy take bath, you know Luffy has negative IQ so he just dumb and overexaggerates it.
Fact
Luffy still had limits on his powers before he awakened. But his Nika Powers were still present in his Gears. Just not to an extreme level.
All water affects devil fruits. In SBS 41 Oda says "The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water."
The anime and the live action do that wrong several times, making the misconception bigger.
Any specifically standing water is enough. The bath scenes thoughout One Piece make no sense, because Oda does not want to capture Luffy drowning every time he enters a bath. So he just ignores it for those scenes. But any person with a water ability like a "tea tea no mi" is literally able to drown all devil druit users. That's why there are barely anyfruits like that.
0:45 it’s a cursed sword, maybe it changes size to match the users size, As far as we know the one piece world is way diffrent than ours, so it might be a possibility
The Mr. 3 one was explained by Oda at some point. I think he said Mr. 3 was laying on a piece of a drift wood and thats how he was floating. xD
In reality Oda probably just forgot and made that up. lol
in one piece devil fruit users cannot be in the sea or in sea water. due to this a likely reason that boa didnt feel fatigue during the bath scene is because of the water being fresh water instead of sea water. for luffy taking a bath and feeling fatigue in the later episode, you could most likely assume that the natural hot spring that was used for the baths was connected to the sea (making the bathwater sea water and not fresh water)
I do agree with the sea water one, because in Whole Cake Island, how the hell does Oven not collapse or at the very least why does the water not nullify his powers as soon as he dips them in the water to boil the sea. He’s immersed his fists in sea water even as they chase the straw hats. So, can devil fruit powers work in the sea so long as you are mostly dry? That doesn’t make sense. Smoker literally jabs Luffy in spot with his sea prism stone rod and he’s unable to use his powers. Even touching sea prism stone bars disables Luffy.
Finally someone mentioning the size changes!
in a question corner,Oda said there was a big piece of wood underneath mr 3 so that answers that plot hole
2:13 how do i check this?
the way you tease the last item on the list to keep people interested, reminds me of those videos that tell me to watch to the end, so i don't
they called haki mantra during the enel ark. it was mentioned, just a differen tname
it was said that for a devil fruit user to be paralized the water should atleast cover half of there body
Which app does you use to watch one piece
In the bubble thing that luffy used gear 3 in,he had a bunch of air because of the god powers he had,even if he hadnt awaken it ,it still applies for some little things.
There’s more fruits that give flight too. Pika pika, zushi zushi, mori mori, moku moku, gasu gasu, soru soru, take your pick.
I think it is just sea water and not pure water, because remember, Boa wouldn't want to lose her beauty, and she is obviously smart enough to not go into sea water. Also, Kaido's crew kept all of the drink water to themselves, and even if the water Kinemon was hiding in was dirty, the chemicals might have cause a chemical reaction causing him to be able to float, i dont know about Galdino/Mr 3.
9:35 Its SEAWATER and SEASTONE that df users are weak to.
All Kinds of Water, actually
9:27
the reason why when boa was taking a shower and dirint feel weak is because it was shallow water as you know in that same episode fluffy fell in he though he was gonna drown but then he said "oh never mind is shallow" or something along those lines and he felt fine but in the scene where he was taking a shower the water was not shallow but deep or it could mean that he was just relaxing cause it was a sona when everyone goes and relax also idk if you guys saw the movie where kuzan was taking a bath he dirint feel weak he just "walked it off" like if it was nothing. my guess is and probably is correct the reason devil fruit users don't get weak in showers or bath but do in the ocean is because of the SALT WATER cause in every episode where there taking a bath none of the fruit users are weak only in the ocean there weak.
actually haki(observation) was first introduced in skypea but it wasn't called haki but mantra
9:26 Here's another thing that I'm curious about. Because the air Luffy sucks in, is not the size his fist becomes. So I think the air suck and the and the thumb blow are for show. So it's very possible that his cells just stretch and grow, making his forearms bigger. This theory is somewhat supported by the fact that Gear 5 Luffy didn't need to take a deep breath to become gigantic; otherwise he would have inhaled the whole cloud that was above him. He probably just does it to stretch his body in preparation for growth, like a balloon. Which could also mean that it's very possible that there's a limit to his gigantism - a.k.a Luffy can be popped.
Either that or he could become so big that the ocean (like rain water) won't effect him in the least. Thus his devil fruit would imply that Luffy has the power to literally destroy the world, 8f he becomes truly free. As true freedom, is *absolutel*.
One plot hole that actually makes sense is the one about chopper's low bounty. I think that the world government didn't want to be scammed by some guy claiming to be giving them the real Tony Tony Chopper, when it's just a normal animal that's just eaten the hito hito no mi and is wearing a replica of Chopper's hat. That would be a good reason.
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Mr 3 floating in the water was corrected in the Anime though, as he was seen floating on some debris.
7:49 cant you see his wings. ofc he knows the sky island exists HES A BORN IN A SKY ISLAND
Oh man. That doesn’t make sense 👍😁
For Blackbeard vs Ace, although Haki wasn't mentioned, it was however mentioned before that when Shanks met with Whitebeard so I don't think that counts.
While Chopper bounty, they wanted to tune it down kinda like what they did with Gear 5 just to hide how dangerous they truly are. It's lile saying even their pet is 100 times stronger than others and they didn't wanted to give that kind of information, hence why that bear in Law crew also has low bounty if I recall.
I agree with everything else though, lol 😂
Isnt haki supposed to be invisible? We didn't know it existed back then so they didnt show it. It still existed but we didnt know it was "haki" . For example:
Skypeia
I think i could explain some plot holes here. The reason why luffy doesn't been capture early because his bounty are still low and there is some devil fruit that makes your body elastic similar to gum gum no mi. So maybe they though that its just a normal df user pirates with no treat. Chopper bounty is low because he is a reindeer. Anyone could shows up and bring a random ass reindeer saying its chopper.
You forgot one thing about the bubbles, Luffy can already somewhat break logic with the unawakened gomu gomu fruit
Boa could bathe because it wasn't sea water duh... have you never seen the strawhats take a bath in a hot spring?? Do you bathe with sea water?
Theory for rou:what if lucky rou grew up to be larger than his captain in the marineford arc
I think the answer to all of these are...." the show is 2 decades old and new ideas can be cool so dont overthink it" ❤
they cant swim specifically in sea water but are fine with normal water 💀
It is explained that Blackbeards dark dark fruit negated Aces Flame Flame fruit- in the exact scene that you showed
Actually with boa they mention that they mad the water low enough for her to go im
I could understand vivi's disguise, i mean superman only put on glasses and was totally unrecognizable
Enelu used observation haki, Rayleigh told Luffy that it is called Mantra in Sky islands
mr 3 is a human wax so its normal to float on water and he's body is evenly spread wide like a starfish so he just float.hope it help
Haki in pre timeskip wasn't shown because luffy couldn't sense it. haki was shown in the first chapter with shanks.
Thats just straight up not true
@@SawyerFan.1 both parts of this are true with boas sisters using haki and luffy not knowing what was happening and how shanks make the sea beast back off my looking at it.(dawg his haki sound even played💀)
The thing with Enma is that it compares to the user strenght and tries to level equal to them.I hope this makes sense
0:27 Bro The meat makes bigger
I'm pretty sure why chopper's bounty is low is because it's a gag and it's because they don't want people just bringing animals claiming that it's chopper
first of all thank you for watching the entire One piece till now. for making this video or not i bet you also loving the masterpiece. and for me for the all one piece fans bro This is the greatest anime of all time. dosent matter who says what.
The thing about half of these plot holes is that they can literally be fixed by erasing a line or tinkering some panels. Like the one about 5 Flying Devil Fruits. It's a throwaway line to hype up Pell. Oda could easily remove it and it wouldn't affect anything. Also, the scaling is always weird in anime. Did you know the Colossal Titan and the Walls in AoT look WAY bigger than they actually are? There is even a video proving that. Or that when Trunks fought King Cold in DBZ, his sword got bigger in Cold's hands.
I could honestly talk about the other "plot holes", but I will just correct some things. Sanji is no DF nerd. He himself said he couldn't care about cursed fruit nonsense. The one thing that caught his attention was the Clear Clear fruit (for obvious reasons). So it's natural that he forgot the "not being able to swim" part. Who the hell remembers every part of a book that they barely cared about? As for Haki, there were hints, but it's more like Oda was actively not mentioning it. I could bring examples, but this would be way too long.
Shanks used haki when he saved fluffy in the pre-time-skip era, so Oda had Haki planned.
The Wax man floats because well, he is wax. No excuses for Kin'emon though
Ive seen people be very confused in the comments about the whole devil fruit/water stuff. Devil fruit users are affected by all types of water, but the amount of weakness they gain is proportional to how much of their bodies are submerged or covered in water. In Hancock's bath scene, the majority of her body is not in the bath, hence why she is not weak.
Source: SBS Chapter 398
"D: Odacchi! Here's a question for you! Crocodile can't fight water because he's "sand," right? Then how does he bathe?! Does he at all?! That's filthy!! Do you bathe, Odacchi? by Crocodile's Mother
O: First of all, let's discuss the problem of Devil Fruit users bathing themselves. People who have eaten a Devil Fruit are "hated" by the sea, and cannot swim. The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water. On a worldwide level, they are all the "sea." When these people enter the water, not only can they not use their powers, they have trouble moving their bodies at all. They might be able to struggle a bit, but it wouldn't do much good. That's if their entire bodies are submerged in the "sea." With less than half the body or just the limbs, it gets easier. Also, rain and dripping water have no effect at all. Therefore, hip baths or showers are the most common choice. Now, in Crocodile's case, "water" is the weakness of his very powers, so his abilities are robbed even in the shower. But it's not like there are enemies around when you take a shower, so I'd bet he would take them even with his powers being blocked. Don't you think? ---And to answer your final question, about myself bathing. As it happens, I do bathe. Twice! In a year!"
Only sea water is a danger to devil fruit users.
Nope, All kinds of waters apparently if youre submerged enough
to be fair zeff wanted to share information with luffy in his journal but luffy wasnt having any of it
The only real one I can think of is when Smoker is talking to Ace in the restaurant and Luffy rockets into his back, knocking both of them into the wall instead of logia stuff happening.
Imagine finding 10 or 20 "plot-holes" in 27 years worth of story gg my guy😂😂😂
I think it’s only salty water that affects devil fruits otherwise all devil fruit users would die by drinking water itself
Haki was shown in skypeia enel had observation haki but the name was mantra even the foour guys under enel had it and old man also had it