Um...with God magic ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. Have you heard his "the wombs were closed" argument to avoid justifying the mass murder of babies in a global flood? God could fast forward human gestation, birth, and growth to meet any necessary time based deadlines
Yeah, you can just go to any secular global population graph and see that the worlds population begin begin growing exponentially only a few thousand years ago. Anything before that is speculation, but the point here is that the math is not a problem. Your question reveals that your dogmatism is based solely on a lack of knowledge.
That math has been done many timea over. As a matter of fact, with the census data being obtained since 1804, and the population rate increase put forth, using that same data, with the current population rate, being mildly conservative for noah, it would populate the planet at about 6.4 billion people in 4500 years with 6 people having started. The popularion growth is almost exact to biblical times..the population data debunks provisional conclusions of science with humans being around 200k years. That would put humans in the quadrillions if that was the case.
@@adriansoto239population growth isn't predicated on an arbitrary figure which was reverse engineered to try to fit a narrative. Population growth is actually predicated on the amount of resources available. For example, when you have a small group of people providing food for themselves, the majority of their time is spent producing sufficient food, and the lack of surplus keeps the population from growing. Compare that to advanced agriculture where 2 or 3 people can provide crops from hundreds, if not thousands of acres. Or when shepherds have access to helicopters so that 2 or 3 people can look after flocks of sheep numbering in the tens of thousands. Then you have the majority of people not spending any time producing food, instead working on other things to prolong life expectancy and support a larger population, along with a surplus of food. Your arbitrary reverse engineered formula is, quite simply, 💩
@@ROFT don't get angry. The math was already proven many times. It's okay to just be wrong. yes God is very real and the ultimacy of reality and the ground of all being. Just accept it. refusing leads to absurdity.
Jesus Haploid Christ. Literally the only things Derp got right about evolution/abiogenesis is that DNA is a long sequence. He doesn't understand chemistry. I don't really either, my degree is in history, but I did work in a biochem lab while in college, and to this day talk to the biochemists about genetics and biochem. Derp doesn't understand statistics at all. Amino acids occur naturally ALL THE TIME. They've been found on asteroids in space, FFS. 3-5 million of them can hang out in a single cubic micron of water. And they undergo 2-3 million chemical interactions per minute. How many cubic microns of water are there on earth? How many minutes in a billion years? Life was basically inevitable at that point
I don't understand evolution, therefore "god". Brilliant.... Also, guy says he's noticed some christians are racist, Gary's awesome defeater is to ask what's wrong with racism. So you're a racist, Gary. Also brilliant....
Category error fallacy. Logical & systemic knowledge (Mathematics, Geometry, etc) is not provisional like scientific "knowledge" is. There isn't even really "knowledge" in science, in the way that people typically use the word. Because everything is science is provisional in science, at best. But what you're doing - where you're conflating math/logic with science - is a very common expression of Scientism.
@@lightbeforethetunnel What science does is present ACTUAL EVIDENCE which to those who except science feel this is the best way to truth and how the natural world works. And yes it is provisional because it allows for correction and improvement and honest people except that they can be wrong. Now just because we don't know everything does NOT conclude we don't know anything. At one time there were no computers. But we have them now right? Did the bible tell us how to build circuit boards? All we had at one time was rocks and trees and water. How did we get computers and cars and cameras and space ships and Iphones from all that. You believe these things exist... right?
Wow!!! Your analogy is absurd. It is not the same. It shows your low level thinking ability. Its like saying, there are 4 billion people running to a car. 1st to arrive wins it. It is a guarantee someone will win with 4,000,000,000% guarantee sucsess rate
@@porkyboy4226 obvioulsy there is life because God created life. The chances become guaranteed and obvious once you add God. Everything eventually leads to and originates in God since he is the ultimacy of reality
The definition of evolution is the change in allele frequency in populations by means of heritable decent. What part of that is Darth contesting; that alleles don’t exist or that they don’t change frequency in populations? In fact, he counts heavily on this happening to get the millions of species in the world from the 7,000 “kinds” that got off the ark. And yes, speciation is macro evolution.
Everything Darth is saying applies to Heliocentrism, too. He sees it for Evolutionism, Old Earthism, and more.... but, for some reason, refuses to see it for Heliocentrism.
He's a bible cherry picker and self interpreter. That's what presupps do. Darth takes it further then most but does stop short at flat earth because even most idiots know better. Darth may be an idiot but he doesn't want to be the village idiot.
He certainly doesn't. Darth still thinks we mostly go by fossils when they didn't have any back then. As we do find them it is just more confirmation that works with the genetic evidence, geological column and other observable evidence he just hand waves away and/or accuses the scientists and other well informed experts of duping us us.
Darwin is like the Moses for atheists, it’s amusing how rustled they get when he gets exposed or critiqued. But interestingly this 19 year old had no answers to defend his dogma in evolution yet he lives by it.
Him excepting evolution doesn't mean "live by it". He just trusts the people smarter then him rather then go by god dunnit from an old myth book and internet preachers like Darth Derpy.
@@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306 Two things can be true at the same time, people in a respective field can be smarter, but at the same time ideologically captured. Just look at anyone going to a college in the Humanities department, and everyone is a believer in critical theory and woke for the most part, they all aren't morons but they all have a narrative that's been continued to be pushed for 40-50 years, so they have to fall in line. Not ever time, but you see it a lot of time... look at the COV narrative, years later and the media refuses to acknowledge it possibly came from Wohon when all the evidence pushes that direction, its insane. Or when the "Border Patrol" agents several years ago were accused to "using whips to lash illegal migrants at the border", turns out it was a misconception and just the reigns of the horse and it looked like it when a snapshot was taken. Did the media or Biden roll back their accusations? Nope, they didn't apologize just quietly moved on. The point I'm making here is you can have brilliant minds, but they're not neutral 99% of the time... 99% of the time they have a world view/paradigm that all the facts they come up with in life POINTS them to that direction directly or indirectly.
No dude he said science is “provisional”, we can claim fact but it's always going to be susceptible to being updated or changed. As a Chemist I’d agree
@Jaryism I think what he means is...darth uses the framework of science without the caveat of it's "provisional" nature to criticize the not God worldview. For example he goes on massive rants about the nature of amino acid chains and protein generation and how it's IMPOSSIBLE they didn't come from god...based on what is currently understood about amino acids and proteins based on...SCIENCE.
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"Because I'm assuming you're not an asshole..." And that, ladies and gentlemen, was manots' first mistake!
Oh yes it was.
can we get a rough date on these?
How long would it take for Old man Noah and his family to repopulate the Earth……can we get some maths on that Darth????
Um...with God magic ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. Have you heard his "the wombs were closed" argument to avoid justifying the mass murder of babies in a global flood?
God could fast forward human gestation, birth, and growth to meet any necessary time based deadlines
Yeah, you can just go to any secular global population graph and see that the worlds population begin begin growing exponentially only a few thousand years ago. Anything before that is speculation, but the point here is that the math is not a problem. Your question reveals that your dogmatism is based solely on a lack of knowledge.
That math has been done many timea over. As a matter of fact, with the census data being obtained since 1804, and the population rate increase put forth, using that same data, with the current population rate, being mildly conservative for noah, it would populate the planet at about 6.4 billion people in 4500 years with 6 people having started. The popularion growth is almost exact to biblical times..the population data debunks provisional conclusions of science with humans being around 200k years. That would put humans in the quadrillions if that was the case.
@@adriansoto239population growth isn't predicated on an arbitrary figure which was reverse engineered to try to fit a narrative. Population growth is actually predicated on the amount of resources available.
For example, when you have a small group of people providing food for themselves, the majority of their time is spent producing sufficient food, and the lack of surplus keeps the population from growing.
Compare that to advanced agriculture where 2 or 3 people can provide crops from hundreds, if not thousands of acres. Or when shepherds have access to helicopters so that 2 or 3 people can look after flocks of sheep numbering in the tens of thousands. Then you have the majority of people not spending any time producing food, instead working on other things to prolong life expectancy and support a larger population, along with a surplus of food.
Your arbitrary reverse engineered formula is, quite simply, 💩
@@ROFT don't get angry. The math was already proven many times. It's okay to just be wrong. yes God is very real and the ultimacy of reality and the ground of all being. Just accept it. refusing leads to absurdity.
Jesus Haploid Christ. Literally the only things Derp got right about evolution/abiogenesis is that DNA is a long sequence.
He doesn't understand chemistry. I don't really either, my degree is in history, but I did work in a biochem lab while in college, and to this day talk to the biochemists about genetics and biochem.
Derp doesn't understand statistics at all. Amino acids occur naturally ALL THE TIME. They've been found on asteroids in space, FFS. 3-5 million of them can hang out in a single cubic micron of water. And they undergo 2-3 million chemical interactions per minute.
How many cubic microns of water are there on earth? How many minutes in a billion years?
Life was basically inevitable at that point
I don't understand evolution, therefore "god". Brilliant....
Also, guy says he's noticed some christians are racist, Gary's awesome defeater is to ask what's wrong with racism. So you're a racist, Gary. Also brilliant....
Seriously Gary has become unbearable to me, after laughing at his crap for years 😢
Oh Darth, leave the kids alone, you're too ignorant to understand!
Koonins math is just provisional
Only math can be proven in science. Everything else in science provisional.
Category error fallacy. Logical & systemic knowledge (Mathematics, Geometry, etc) is not provisional like scientific "knowledge" is.
There isn't even really "knowledge" in science, in the way that people typically use the word. Because everything is science is provisional in science, at best.
But what you're doing - where you're conflating math/logic with science - is a very common expression of Scientism.
😂😂😂 such bullshit @@lightbeforethetunnel
@@lightbeforethetunnel What science does is present ACTUAL EVIDENCE which to those who except science feel this is the best way to truth and how the natural world works. And yes it is provisional because it allows for correction and improvement and honest people except that they can be wrong.
Now just because we don't know everything does NOT conclude we don't know anything. At one time there were no computers. But we have them now right? Did the bible tell us how to build circuit boards? All we had at one time was rocks and trees and water. How did we get computers and cars and cameras and space ships and Iphones from all that. You believe these things exist... right?
@@lightbeforethetunnel
Maths is a science .
A sperm fertilising an egg is 4 trillion to one yet happens constantly !!
The order coming out of shuffling a deck of 52 cards is 8.10^67 to one. Talk about a mundane event.
Wow!!! Your analogy is absurd. It is not the same. It shows your low level thinking ability.
Its like saying, there are 4 billion people running to a car. 1st to arrive wins it. It is a guarantee someone will win with 4,000,000,000% guarantee sucsess rate
Its still relevant as life is here no matter how improbable you silly thing!
@@porkyboy4226 i know because God created it
@@porkyboy4226 obvioulsy there is life because God created life. The chances become guaranteed and obvious once you add God. Everything eventually leads to and originates in God since he is the ultimacy of reality
The definition of evolution is the change in allele frequency in populations by means of heritable decent. What part of that is Darth contesting; that alleles don’t exist or that they don’t change frequency in populations? In fact, he counts heavily on this happening to get the millions of species in the world from the 7,000 “kinds” that got off the ark. And yes, speciation is macro evolution.
Insufferable.
Everything Darth is saying applies to Heliocentrism, too. He sees it for Evolutionism, Old Earthism, and more.... but, for some reason, refuses to see it for Heliocentrism.
Yes, he's just as willfully ignorant as you, just in a slightly different way.
He's a bible cherry picker and self interpreter. That's what presupps do. Darth takes it further then most but does stop short at flat earth because even most idiots know better. Darth may be an idiot but he doesn't want to be the village idiot.
Can you get me unbanned from the server?
What is the server?
DD must not realize that things have advanced since Darwin
Like trans surgery
He certainly doesn't. Darth still thinks we mostly go by fossils when they didn't have any back then. As we do find them it is just more confirmation that works with the genetic evidence, geological column and other observable evidence he just hand waves away and/or accuses the scientists and other well informed experts of duping us us.
Noah was from Alabama?
Darwin is like the Moses for atheists, it’s amusing how rustled they get when he gets exposed or critiqued. But interestingly this 19 year old had no answers to defend his dogma in evolution yet he lives by it.
Projection.
DD is just a puppy stomper. He would just ban or mute anyone who brought some actual smarts to the table.
@@isidoreaerys8745 Gj you said a word
Him excepting evolution doesn't mean "live by it". He just trusts the people smarter then him rather then go by god dunnit from an old myth book and internet preachers like Darth Derpy.
@@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306 Two things can be true at the same time, people in a respective field can be smarter, but at the same time ideologically captured. Just look at anyone going to a college in the Humanities department, and everyone is a believer in critical theory and woke for the most part, they all aren't morons but they all have a narrative that's been continued to be pushed for 40-50 years, so they have to fall in line. Not ever time, but you see it a lot of time... look at the COV narrative, years later and the media refuses to acknowledge it possibly came from Wohon when all the evidence pushes that direction, its insane. Or when the "Border Patrol" agents several years ago were accused to "using whips to lash illegal migrants at the border", turns out it was a misconception and just the reigns of the horse and it looked like it when a snapshot was taken. Did the media or Biden roll back their accusations? Nope, they didn't apologize just quietly moved on. The point I'm making here is you can have brilliant minds, but they're not neutral 99% of the time... 99% of the time they have a world view/paradigm that all the facts they come up with in life POINTS them to that direction directly or indirectly.
Why does darth constantly quote science facts when science (so he says) isn't factual?
No dude he said science is “provisional”, we can claim fact but it's always going to be susceptible to being updated or changed. As a Chemist I’d agree
@@Jaryismare you an atheist?
He's quoting scientists on your own side as a hostile witness argument. That's why.
@Jaryism I think what he means is...darth uses the framework of science without the caveat of it's "provisional" nature to criticize the not God worldview.
For example he goes on massive rants about the nature of amino acid chains and protein generation and how it's IMPOSSIBLE they didn't come from god...based on what is currently understood about amino acids and proteins based on...SCIENCE.
@@peetee32 he has also stated many times that science isn't proof