The Viewer Special: Round 2 | MythBusters | Season 5 Episode 29 | Full Episode
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The Viewer Special 2: what weapons of choice did the cavemen use, can a machine gun take down a tree, can your jeans survive sliding to safety on a zipline, does a trail of gunpowder really light up like it does in all the cartoons?
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I don't know if this was available knowledge at the time, but broadhead arrows are definitely well understood.
Adam was right about bleeding out, but not just for faster death, but for an easier trail to follow.
The triangular shape of the head also makes it walk deeper into the tissue causing extra damage as the animal runs
Lastly, hunting is a long, hard experience. Even if the difference was as small as Jamie thought, a single arrow fired could be the culmination of days of work - you need that one shot to be as much in your favor as possible.
Also, the arrowhead is re-usable if the stick gets damaged (by, for example, getting broken off when the animal runs away). Once the animal is dead, you can dig out the arrowhead and use it again on a new stick. That would cut the work-time to nearly none. And, if you were traveling to a different location, you wouldn't necessarily have to carry all your arrows. You could, though, carry a lot of arrowheads in a small pouch.
The arrow head would also help keep the arrow inside of the animal, while the wooden one would be much more likely to fall out
Let's not forget that if you make a lot of arrows, you're gonna be good at it, and it's gonna be faster to make them lol
internet was shit at the time and they were playing dumb most of the time
RIP Grant. You will be missed
I'm just imagining old school cavemen arguing over these youngins and their new flint arrows that take forever to make.
"It's a gimmick sonny"
Arrowheads - sharpened wood tip:
What they could hardly test is the fact that the arrowhead stuck in a moving animal will grind out a pretty big hole over time. That will make it bleed more.
They needed to test reusability with the arrows. My guess is the pointy stick would require constant resharpening.
yeah but then you just sharpen it. *shop shop* and you're done. But if the stone break! 😱
Arrow heads cause ripping and tearing on the way in. A simple point just makes a whole that can clot around the arrow. That is why bow hunters use broad heads
@@thrillerdillAlso imagine pulling out arrow with an arrowhead, that would've been hurt if not fatal while on pointy stick, while it still hurt, probably won't do further damage
@@tomthomas3499 I had a stroke trying to read your comment
Kinda wish we had high-speed film of the bullets from the mini gun tearing through the tree
DeWalt should use the last clip for their advertisment. Which drill would survive an explosion?
Such a great show
There is good reason hunting is allowed only with proper cutting hunting tips. "Pointy stick" would only stuck into prey blocking wound and take days to weeks to kill it, when with cutting tip example deer bleed out under minute.
Bad idea to use jeans that way, maybe weakest point of them. Better put both legs over and grab ancles and waist for best strenght..
Also the tip can be continually reused
@@johnowens8992 Assuming you're able to recover it, which is not a guarantee.
@@reaganharder1480 Yes, but many times you will be able to recover it. If not, then that hunting method wouldn't have been useful in the first place.
Besides, I assume there are some animals whose hides are too hard for wooden-tipped arrows to begin with, that stone-tipped arrows may be able to penetrate. Though I don't think those are animals humans would want to hunt in the first place, I'd imagine it's better to have arrows that can hurt them in case you need to protect yourself from said animals.
They should have gotten an expert flint knapper if they truly wanted to time making arrows. Have you seen Phil Harding knap flint? There wouldn't have been that much difference
But how much flint could a flint knapper knap if a flint knapper could knap flint?
Yeah, they tested the time with a guy who's never worked with Flint before.
They'd have spent a lot of time and gotten good at making them well, and quick.
Plus, its not like they had super limited time.
You couldn't really go wandering around after night fall.
So you could spend several hours after the sun goes down in the cave by a fire, just making arrowheads for tomorrow's Hunting.
@@kharnthebetrayer8251 And that's how we lived before Netflix. Sheesh.
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Stereo*
I love the fan theory episodes, lot of interesting and nice ideas.
13:28 With the arrows w/o tips you actually prolly could... the size of the wound is the main issue (you want it as big as possible)
Having the arrow become lodged so that the target either can't pull it out or has to enlarge the wound to do so is also a great advantage.
Size of the game also matters. Pointy stick is fine for rabbits. But try that against a bear and you only make it angry. It's hard to make draw strong enough for the just wood stick not to shatter on impact. It's well worth the time making the arrow head against bigger game. Doesn't really matter if it takes a week to do it. And reason why stone tips are found more is because stone just preserves better.
Rip old buster
Stoneheads could have been wider in diameter causing a greater wound than woodarrows. And maybe they were favorable in things like sliding through bones (ribcage) and ligaments (joints)
its weird to know adam is just 3 year old than Tory and Grant.
Grant stopped aging.
Every episode this was my favorite expulsion
This Chainsaw must be so blunt
You'd be surprised how hard it can be to cut through a tree depending on what type of wood it is - hardwoods do take longer to cut through, and you don't want to force it in case it disrupts the course of the chain.
Also, pro tip - never use a chainsaw on a palm tree. Not unless you like cleaning out the chain and the guide for an hour or so afterwards...
Jeans these days are not near as good and resistant as in the good days.
given a long distance, i think the stone would have a much better penetration power than wood as shown here, because the stone has momentum.
tho that would depend if the entire arrow weighed more with a stone tip. just like why bullets are heavy as possible.
16:18 so good.
They should've made a collection of all the kari fits from all the episodes..
This was by far one of the episodes I had most issues with when it was aired. The arrowheads were made for because they served an important function and it is highly unlikely that a stone age man made arrowheads for decoration.
We find many preserved arrows made of wood here in Norway now that have been preserved in a glacier for hundreds to thousands of years including arrowheads made of a variety of different materials, including as bone, shell, mussel, bronze, iron, etc. This is found in Jotunheimen, a mountain area named after the home of the jotnene, the giants in Norse mythology.
The glaciers melts fast now and uncover a lot that has been lost in the snow and has been preserved in the ice.
I have searched and tried to find out if they have found an arrow without an arrowhead or a splinter for where the arrowhead was attached, but so far I have not found any. They used arrowheads of hard material all the time. If you want to watch the archeologists uncover old Norwegian arrows and other stuff you can go to the channel of the archaeologists who works there called: "Secrets Of The Ice".
They don't say they made them for decorations. They say that having the (Technology) in this case the arrowhead would have been seen as 'bling' and impressed the cave ladies. Because you were more advanced. 😢🎉
I bet you had issues with it considering you didn't understand what they were talking about
14:30 Thank you Jamie, that's what I was thinking. So my biggest question now is why the archaeologist didn't think of that?
I biggest fan in mexico
U got anymore of those Pixeles?
Wonder if you could use your belt instead of the jeans. Put it around the line, buckle it up and then use the buckle since its metal, not the leather part
What if the arrows hit bone, would the wood point do as much damage as a flint end?
Big fan here from Colombia
pause exactly at 27:16, i thought at the moment "WTF are they drawing here"..i was so confuse at first 🤣🤣🤣
Why am i so reminded about austin powers?
Why am I so reminded about Rosie Jones?
What if you wring the pants and only use the legs where they are not sewn. The would be harder, have less surface to get stuck and should thereby go smoother
Adam really loved up to his name this episode!
Adam SAVAGE
Hillarious.
They've made an error in their thinking about arrow heads. They're looking the time it takes to chip out and arrow head and comparing that to sharpening a stick and concluding it takes many times longer, but that's not how an arrow is made. Suitable sticks have to be found, fletching needs to b gathered, the sticks need straightening over a fire, glue needs to be made, the fletching needs to be fixed on and then the arrow head goes on. The time taken for that final step that produces the best arrow is only part of the process. Without the arrow head nearly all the rest of the time is needed and the end result is less effective.
The thing is flint head arrows will continue to do damage causing the target to bleed even more while it’s running away. The head keeps cutting.
We're all ignoring the fact that on the zipline jean eascape, the sliding guy would just slide down to the very next chair behind him?
man that chainsaw was dull, shoulda used a sharp chain on a tree not full of metal
the minigun is horrifying and now i wonder how long it would take to cut a body in half
With that caliber - a few or even a couple of bullets and fraction of a second
Was I the only one asking what about if the arrow hits a bone?
Chainsaw was blunt, small size compared to log and not used by a professional.
I wanna see Jamie and Adam re-unite and hug. Just once.
Adam said too many bad things about Jamie.
@@Okurka.They had beef?
The tendrils of Jamie's moustache reaching out to embrace his former colleague
2200 rds for a single tree... so.. about $2170 if buying bulk 147g FMJ (today ..2010, one might get it for a bit under $1000, depending on source)..... jayzuz.
Is this channel official? Or have the first 5 seasons become public domain or something?
I'm wondering because this channel and another one have been releasing episodes of season 5 recently.. I'm not mad, love the show. Just think it's odd.
Just read channel description and it turns out this channel is owned by Banijay, and I read a comment on an episode on Banijay Science where someone said that Banijay now owns the rights to season 5.. Makes sense.
@@daemonburns-waight2421 You arent alone in being confused... They have been buying up the rights to a lot of things but I cant really get a grasp on what they are doing* with them? Also why put mythbusters on two separate channels? One of which is completely absent of their branding? What even is there branding? Somebody make Banijay make sense to me.
Falling into the rabbit hole of Mergers and Acquisitions, this _is_ an official channel operated by current rightsholders; Banijay bought Beyond Productions (the producing company of the show, other than Discovery) in 2022
Biggest complaint about the arrowhead stuff was the the fact that they didn't have someone who is experienced at flint knapping for the time trial. Yes flint arrowheads are harder to make but for an experienced "professional" it wouldn't be as much of a time difference.
Also ancient hunter gatherers had less stuff filling up their time so investing time for a small improvement in hunting ability was probably worthwhile for them.
no matter if then or now, always wanting the latest and greatest is cave man behavior.
RIP Grant!
#TopShotTreeService 😁
OKEY FOR EVERYONE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SPLIT/MONO YOU CAN JUST CHANGE THIS IN YOUR PHONE SETTINGS!!!!
I liked when they did the man vs women one and did the emotion read test with the casts eyes when they do different expressions. And old walrus man had no expression. It did always impress me when he cracked a smile on a few occasions
Love the show.
Adam's voices add nothing.
I would say they actually retract from the show. Thank god you can skip it on youtube.
It's the same as Rosie Jones in a quiz panel.
Buster needed his own series.
Life of a Dummy.
Who else just googled Todd Surovell?
they didnt use the correct part of the jeans on that test.
Can't believe an actual archaeology professor asked them such a stupid question... Like, seriously, wtf? "Why did ancient homo sapiens shoot arrowheads instead of sharpened sticks???" Jesus, dude 🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂
Historian here with an answer. There's a reason he is an archeologist professor. Archeologists actually wonder why ancient people did things the way they did them, instead of taking preconceptions at face value. You should try.
This could be just him tricking them to do "field experiment" it is. I know professors who would waste no time if they were to be asked a question to myth busters.
Such material can be presented to students to show them some actual life results
@@notfeedynotlazyI want to ask you as a professor. Isn't it wrong to assume usage of stone arrows by nowadays findings of stone arrows. Even if they've used wooden arrows we wouldn't know because they would have decayed
@@notfeedynotlazy Asking modern hunters or medieval historians would have been a good idea.
Archery hunting is a living craft that far better represents, and it's not hard to understand that the difference between a needle bodkin and a hunting broadhead is the same as between a stick and a flint head.
@@skilletborne Amusingly, I happen to be a medieval historian _and_ into medieval-style archery, and trust me, in my experience, half of my medieval archery colleagues (including a couple who also happen to be hunters) have no bloody idea of that difference.😀 There are too many memes in the world of medieval archery aout the relative performance of those types of arrow heads. From people having weird ideas (in _both_ directions of error) about a broadhead's capability or lack thereof to penetrate armor (not just metal armor, irrelevant here, but also including heavy leather, including that of thick-skinned animals), to people thinking a bodkin would be "useless" to fire at an unarmored animal (spoiler: if it can kill a man-sized mammal behind armor, it can also do so even better when there is NO armor). And yes, all those are things I've heard other archers say.
So maybe it was a better thing that he asked _them_ instead. They, at least, actually put the theory to test.
According to Newton, F=ma: The arrow with the stone has more mass and more force!. The ancient humans had more knowledge of physics than the Mythbusters!. The arrow with the stone can cut internal organs with two edges, the charp tip cannot do the same.
U do realize that it’s a family friendly show (including children). Pretty sure the mythbusters knew the likely result. The point was to show science in action.
Also they literally said all ur points.
@@tonkey2005 where? They don't explain physics and do experiments without following the scientific method... What kind of teaching is this? That's why the American kids prefer to be popular than learn: "more fun and show and less science and learning"
@@jleal666 well they do follow the scientific method, at least in a rough sense and made for tv,
they hypothesise there is an advantage to the arrow tips (the "myth"),
they then research the proper way to make these arrows,
then they make experiments (shoot arrows with and without and measure penetration depth and accuracy, btw they rarely show all data points),
they analyze the data (stating minimal better penetration and no clear accuracy advantage with tips)
at the end they report the results and conclusion, saying its unclear wether stone arrow tops were common since wood arrows dont survive as long, as well as stating stone arrows likely better at wounding animals leading to a quicker death and higher chance of successful hunt
The show never had the purpose to go in depth about the physics behind the results. Btw the weight of the arrow tip is likely negligable compared to the force applied by the bow as well as penetration due to sharper edges of the stone. So there wasnt really a need to explain specific physics as the results depend on many factors.
And on many occasions they quickly mention and explain in a kid friendly way laws of physics, especially if they can be used to explain surprising results or seemingly dont apply to specific things, in which case they also explain why that law isnt applicable in that scenario, like for example newtons laws during the can u blow wind into sails from ur own boat. Real science is pretty boring for the most part and not great for tv and the show did a great job at getting kids to question the world around them and gave a glimpse at how to do scientific experiments. but it never acted as if they were a physics/ science show that goes in depth.
The fake, over-exaggerated, “reality show”-style conversations the build team has are extremely cringey. Grant comes off OK, but Tory and Kari not so much… (Tory and Kari were much more relatable (and likable) in early episodes when they were background help staff.)
Der druchfall
I did love the busters but watching now I understand why my ex's thoughts: frustrating pre spoiler edits and dragged out episodes.
And in some cases you can tell how much Adam an Jaime didn't like each other... Never noticed when I was younger
That's most TV shows back in that age. Dragging out episodes to cramp in more ads. Just like some youtubers do now. Maybe nothing changed in the end.
@@MaRiORuIz1984 yes thats just sad
You still havent moved on from your ex lol
@@marjohnbuncio2782projecting mate?
Archaeologist: “how do broad heads work?”
…keep studying, my man. Maybe more years of schooling will do it.
kari is so fine
another unscientific and stupid episode
stone arrows work better due to the lacerating layers of flesh, muscle and fat, but are much more like the stay in the animal while it flees, a sharpened stick has nothing holding it there making it more likely to fall out while the animal flees.
if you have never made a flint arrow before it would likely take you a long while! but with experience you could do this much quicker. additionally they didnt use any other materials used to make arrows, such as string, flight and or wood.
shooting a tree down is more about giving a hot chick a mini gun!
adam was a bad candidate for eye black as hes glasses would create glare as well, and they also didnt do a control first. for better results they would need a larger sample for this one
It’s fun
they reached the conclusion that the arrowhead made a bigger, deeper wound. in the black paint myth they did a proper control by preventing the bias and doing a blind test with the light paint, the fact that Adam wears glasses shouldn't be a fact because there are players that use glasses, finally they reached the conclusion that it helps significantly in reducing the reflected light, i don't know what to tell you, its as cientific as it gets.
That fact that an actual archaeology professor supposedly asked this question actually blows my mind. Dude has _no_ business teaching anyone how to do anything but flip burgers...
@@ao1778 dude, you are missing the point harder than Grant was missing the tree with most of his bullets. If you think that "asking Mythbusters to 'test' wether stone arrows are better than sharpened sticks" is NOT the same as "teaching a LOT of people why stone arrows were made", then you have a lot of burgers to flip in your future.
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I like many episodes of myth busters, however the mentality behind many myths are disgusting. Why the have to show blowing up things, or torture methods and unnatural behaviours?
a) because blowing things up is fun?
b) because what you believe to be unnatural behaviours often are not so unnatural.
I don't quite remember them testing torture methods but in one episode, and after that they decided not to do it anymore.
people like you in fact can live only in suburbia...wow
"Unnatural behaviours"
You've gotta be one of the most clueless and sheltered humans 😂
IKR; they're not even muslim.