I mean they do a lot of math in some experiments but the edit doesn't linger on it for long. Just not as compelling TV. College science, kind of depends on what your field is. Chemistry and physics obviously rely on it a ton, and you have to take the basics at least no matter what your field is.
May have lost Grant too soon, but at least all of his smiles, laughs, jokes, and creativity is still up here for all of us to remember him by and celebrate. RIP dude
9:01 fun story, my dad once landed an A7 without landing gear. He always said any landing you walk away from is a good one, and he did manage to walk away from that one. Well, he ran, because the plane was on fire by the time he ejected. But you get it.
Here's something often overlooked with the "could a passenger land the jet" scenario: as they say, it is 100% possible for a passenger to program the airliner to autoland, but there's a problem. Put someone with no experience into the flight deck and say "get ATC on the radio and ask for help." Unless you know how to do that, you're already done for.
Well, the radios should already be tuned in tons frequency, so you'll probably be talking to someone. Fun fact: when they change frequencies to talk to someone else, you are probably talking to someone sitting in a different cubicle or desk in the same building.
The consistent lesson in all of these aviation myths is that while speed is cool, speed also kills. Most people don't understand how fast planes fly, how slow most planes must be in order to land safely (yet not so slow as to lose too much lift), how fast we drop from the sky, and how little time we have to react to emergencies.
23:06 that's got to be the nicest tandem skydiving landing that I've ever seen. Edit: kept watching the episode and Tory's landing was equally as nice. The tandem skydiver used for both jumps is one skilled guy.
Honestly, going through that flight sim and being talked into how to land a jetliner by a pro is so cool. It's a thing I've wanted to do ever since I learned of the existence of these simulators from this very episode, back when it first aired. Not a wish that'll likely ever be granted, but damn wouldn't that be cool. Kind of like an escape room but with a much, much higher bill if you break something.
There is a significant difference between landing a piper cub and a large passenger Jet. There have been several instances of people being talked down in small planes.
Yeah I was about to point that out. I feel like them researching the instances where this actually happened in smaller planes would have been useful. Large passenger jets are different to fly than smaller planes, but passenger jets have autopilots and more electronic assistance helping stabilise the plane, so that might make the process of landing actually easier in some ways. Plus, a smaller plane is far more susceptible to turbulence and shearing forces, which might be an added problem all on its own.
Whilst it hasn't happened, nowadays all you really need to do is to be able to guide the person into keying in the auto-pilot into the correct auto-pilot (and subsequently the auto-landing) modes; the flying can all be done by the auto-pilot itself. (see "I'm not a pilot. Can I land a 737?" by Tom Scott and MentourPIlot) It's definitely still a hypothetical but way more possible compared to the scenario in this episode; something pointed out by the Subject Matter Expert in the conclusion of this episode.
Though one kind of instance shows the problem with the scenario. In 2005 Helios 522 had it's pressurization system off and the pilots didn't notice and they passed out. The plane kept flying until it reached Athens and went into a holding pattern but the auto-pilot wouldn't land until given the command to. A flight attendent kept himself conscious via bottled oxygen but the radio was set to the place the plane departed from and he didn't know how to operate it. So the plane crashed.
@@Lykas_mitts Helios 522 kind of showed the problem with the scenario. If you don't know how to operate the radio to get in contact with the ground then it's kinda hard to receive any instructions.
Did you not watch this exact episode that you commented on they were both talked down in simulator the closest anybody would allow them to attempt this in a large aircraft not to mention if you are calm at the time and you have a knowledgeable person giving you instruction you can absolutely follow without flaw provided you can see properly so cut the stupidity and enjoy the show
It’s so funny how they could figure out the 4000 feet in 90 seconds myth by doing some very basic physics but instead they chose to drop a dummy out of a plane just for the fun of it
I like how the episode punctuates 'Captain' Jamie's statement that "I'd say this is gonna be a little bit of a rough landing" with a musical excitement sting taken straight from the 1966 Star Trek TV show. 6:40
I’m a flight instructor and I’m confident if I was an airline pilot I could talk someone down using autopilot with auto land capability. Hand flying an airliner, I think the odds are slim. If it’s a small aircraft like a Cessna I could talk someone down. I give myself 50/50 odds depending on the persons personality and technical inclination.
The problem with heavies is controlling that energy, and knowing when to flare. A zero time know-nothing has no chance. A sim-pilots who flies Transports on Xplane probably has a better shot than a Cessna driver. The problem I see with GA fleet is if there is a crosswind, it is not intuitive to side-slip without an explanation and demonstration. A zero-time person can be talked down, but it's rarely smooth.
Can a civilian land an airplane without any pilot training with help from a ATC? Absolutely, has happened at least a few times in fact but all of the cases have been in small personal aircraft or a small plane, it has never happened in a large passenger or cargo jet that i'm aware of. Also Adam's storyline of both pilot and co pilot being incapacitated by food poisoning and a civilian being forced to land the plane will never occur on a commerical airliner. Both pilots are required to eat different meals if they eat in flight so if one of them does get sick, the other can take control and land the plane. I'm not a pilot but i'm am a aviation geek and love commerical airplanes, Boeing 767-200 series in particular, especially Air Canada Flight 143, lovingly known as the Gimli Glider.
Idk if it’d make a difference, but I’d like to have seen them do the mid dive conversation between Grant and the instructor he was attached to, because Keanu was holding onto Patrick in the scene, so they were a lot closer than Dan was to Grant
crazy that no one ever had to land a commercial plane but there are 20+ stories of students first time or just flying to have instructor have heart attack and have to be landed by air control, remember they said "IN A COMMERCIAL" setting NOT PRIVATE airplanes.
With flying what a lot of people don't know is all they would do is tell the person how to use the autopilot and some basic instruments. If the runway has ILS the plane can literally land itself (see Cat III landing). Working the autopilot controls would be far easier for them than actually taking control.
Ask any skydiver and they would have told you: 1. you have about 10 sec MAX of freefall time from 4000 ft. 2. If you get really close and shout really loud, you MIGHT get a few words through. 3. Freefall in "spreadeagle" is about 100 mph. No-lift dive is over 200 mph. They can do the math at how long it would take someone to catch up.
33:10 The different metal shapes do not have a different surface area (or frontal area in aerodynamic terms). Since they weigh the same and the metal thickness is the same, the cross-sectional area is the same. However, the spread shape does have a larger perimeter which, everything else being equal will increase wake drag as well as interference drag. What makes a massive difference in drag is reducing the frontal area, not surface area. When a skydiver points his or her body towards the ground, the amount of area as seen from the airflow's perspective (frontal area) is much lower, thus reducing drag, despite the face that the surface area is the same.
That looks like a simulator of an A320 series aircraft, so as I understand, it should come with flight envelope protections: it will let you fly into the ground, but it won’t let you stall (in normal law).
It is not. It says it simulates "a generic airliner" so it takes the sidestick from airbus (which ist really an airbus sidestick to begin with) and the Autopilot from Boeing along with tons of generic stuff.
@iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145 Maybe so but a larger plane takes a lot longer to react, hence a lot longer to recover from undesirable states. Getting slow in a cub is a simble matter of pitching the nise down and adding some throttle maybe losing 10 feet, whereas and a 321 like shown in this video would require the same imputs but losing vastly more altitude (think hundres of feet) given how long the engines take to spool (~4 seconds) and the amount of airspeed required to be gained to arrest the descent rate.
That button empties the lavatory toilet in case a passenger clogs it jk. There’s a joystick on both sides for each pilot, the red button is for switching control of the plane between them
Would a passenger attempting to land the plane know how to contact ATC? With all the buttons I don’t believe a passenger could figure out what to push.
I love how it says courtesy of Microsoft corporation for the graphics.. when now as long as you got a new age Xbox you can play simulator games yourself :P
Think the 4,000ft drop time should be re-done. They measured 4,000ft above sea-level (that’s what aircraft altimeters read) and did not drop the dummy from 4,000ft AGL (above ground level).
They’re actually wrong about people being talked into landing with incapacitated pilots. It might not have ever happened on a large, passenger jet but off the top of my head, I’m aware of at least 3 GA aircraft that have been “talked down” after the instructor/pilot/spouse keeled over at the controls.
It’s great that they concluded one skydiver could catch another skydiver with a 15 sec. Delay, but does anyone know what would happen if they made contact at that speed? 250mph catching 120mph. I’m no good at math, but is that 130mph hitting a dead stop?
22:52 Not an accurate test; using just the knowledge of an air traffic controller. I am sure, if this were to ever happen, they would get an experienced pilot. At least, they did in Airplane!
I still say that the free fall catch up thing was kind of busted given that he only just caught them. To have caught them and acted out a scene like in the movie they’d have had to have jumped out of a spaceship!
26:54 thats what they call a fly by wire plane? there is no control wheel? no physical imput to the Flight control surfaces? what if the computers shut down? they could still fly using that stick?
Not in an airbus, such as the one they were flying. The side stick is not attaced to any of the flight control surfaces. Its a box that is connected to computers via wires that control the flight surfaces.
Funny enough, a passenger landing tge aircraft has happened a couple of times in General Aviation. Once with an old man. Once with an old lady. Once with a young guy and I forget who the rest were.
That scene in airplane doesn't happen in real life when it comes to pilot eating the same thing. Just in case there is a chance of one who gets food poisoning.
It's kinda mind-blowing that an elderly woman landed a small plane in the same scenario, her husband died ( heart attack ) while they were flying together and she was talking to the control tower about how to land the plane and she made it. If you don't believe me there's a clip here on TH-cam I'm sure you can find it
I'm pretty sure on long commercial flights, the pilots aren't allowed to eat the same meal specifically to avoid them both potentially getting food poisoning. However, if the pilots both became incapacitated, and someone else inside the commercial air line filled with people needed to land the plane, why wouldn't the flight attendant(s) do it? They certainly have more experience with flights than any single person on the commute. They've probably been in the cockpit more than any other person on the plane (that isn't a pilot). They may even have some knowledge of how to fly the plane. I'd much rather an attendant take the yoke over a random person with zero experience.
Your idea is actually the policy most airlines have. The different meals thing is very real, because of potential food poisoning. If one of the pilots is out, flight attendants ask if there are any Commercial/Military/Private pilots among the passengers, and if there is, the remaining pilot enlists them to talk on the radio and read checklists. If not, then either the lead flight attendant will be enlisted as help, or the remaining pilot will fly solo. (this has happened a few times if one of the pilots has a medical emergency in flight, usually heart problems) If both pilots are out, the flight attendants would ask for any Commercial/Military/Private pilots among the passengers, put them in charge, and provide as much help as they can. If there are no trained pilots among the passengers, then the flight attendants will take over and try to land themselves. (neither of these situations have ever happened on a commercial flight). The only time a uninitiated passenger would be entrusted with the airplane is if the entire crew is incapacitated, and no other passengers step forward.
@@-caesarian-6078the big issue with a dual pilot incapacitation is that the door to the cockpit is locked and armored so unless one of the pilots realized they were fading away and opened the door the passengers would be SOL.
No passenger has ever landed a commercial jet, but it doesnt mean that its never been attempted. There was a flight where the pilots didnt pressurize the fuselage and everyone ended up passing out and one of the flight attendants who had found oxygen tank and had a private pilots license ended up crashing it away from a populated area in Greece.
In the bit where one diver catches up with the other he would hit the other diver like a missile you'd have to be an expert to know when to spread your arms out and slow down before you collided you would be a missile boat divers would be killed
That last catchup stunt is a busted stunt cuz after catching up to the free fall diver , theres got to b time to cling on to the diver then pull the shoot... that is an impossible move.... catching up yes but its not the full stunt... the re enactment has to confirm whether the full stunt is possible or not... so that is a bust for sure...mythbusters trying to pull a cheeky one 😂😂😂😂
This show bamboozled me. As a kid I thought this was how you did science. Then I went to college and we just did math…..
To be fair, you need math to do a lot of the stuff they did. So it certainly helps.
I mean they do a lot of math in some experiments but the edit doesn't linger on it for long. Just not as compelling TV. College science, kind of depends on what your field is. Chemistry and physics obviously rely on it a ton, and you have to take the basics at least no matter what your field is.
Eh what ya seen as a kid was the fun part, they never shown all the planning that went into the experiments.😂
They did lots of math. It’s just boring to show that part on TV. 😅😅😅
That’s the truest comment on TH-cam
May have lost Grant too soon, but at least all of his smiles, laughs, jokes, and creativity is still up here for all of us to remember him by and celebrate. RIP dude
He lives on in reruns of this show. And also of the Late-Late Show with Craig Ferguson. (Geoff Petersen was built by Imahara).
“Looks like we’re going over some kind of population center, let’s see if we can go faster “
Plane - "PULL UP, PULL UP!"
Jamie - "Ow shut up"
😂
-Computer: “Don’t think.”
-Jamie: “Why is it telling me not to think?”
“The overwhelming ray of instruments and alarms are… well, overwhelming… and alarming.”
Array?
Robert Lee the Legend
"Can anyone here fly a plane?"
"No, but I am Jamie Hyneman"
"That'll Do..."
They broke the simulator which is such a mythbuster thing. Adam Savage tested not sure which ep it was.
9:01 fun story, my dad once landed an A7 without landing gear. He always said any landing you walk away from is a good one, and he did manage to walk away from that one. Well, he ran, because the plane was on fire by the time he ejected. But you get it.
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Any landing where you can use the plane afterwards is an excellent landing.
From a technical standpoint I believe the aircraft needs to be still in a useable condition for it to count as “landing” rather than a crash
I'm kind of shocked that Grant didn't suggest to build a skydiving robot😂 ❤Grant
Here's something often overlooked with the "could a passenger land the jet" scenario: as they say, it is 100% possible for a passenger to program the airliner to autoland, but there's a problem. Put someone with no experience into the flight deck and say "get ATC on the radio and ask for help." Unless you know how to do that, you're already done for.
i remember your reddit username lmao
Well, the radios should already be tuned in tons frequency, so you'll probably be talking to someone.
Fun fact: when they change frequencies to talk to someone else, you are probably talking to someone sitting in a different cubicle or desk in the same building.
@@JoshuaTootell Wow, as a major airline pilot I had no idea, thanks Joshua.
It's already tuned in.
If I’m not mistaken I think there is a button on the yolk that opens the com line, but that may be complete bs
The consistent lesson in all of these aviation myths is that while speed is cool, speed also kills. Most people don't understand how fast planes fly, how slow most planes must be in order to land safely (yet not so slow as to lose too much lift), how fast we drop from the sky, and how little time we have to react to emergencies.
23:06 that's got to be the nicest tandem skydiving landing that I've ever seen.
Edit: kept watching the episode and Tory's landing was equally as nice. The tandem skydiver used for both jumps is one skilled guy.
Well... That is his job..
"why does it keep telling me not to think?!"
😂😂😂
Passenger; "So are we landing or what?"....
Pilot; "..........I don't .....................I don't know" 😀9:27
"The salmon mousse". Great Monty Python reference.
Honestly, going through that flight sim and being talked into how to land a jetliner by a pro is so cool. It's a thing I've wanted to do ever since I learned of the existence of these simulators from this very episode, back when it first aired. Not a wish that'll likely ever be granted, but damn wouldn't that be cool. Kind of like an escape room but with a much, much higher bill if you break something.
Simulator experiences are possible and not insanely expensive! Depending on where you live there are some good options
There is a significant difference between landing a piper cub and a large passenger Jet. There have been several instances of people being talked down in small planes.
Yeah I was about to point that out. I feel like them researching the instances where this actually happened in smaller planes would have been useful.
Large passenger jets are different to fly than smaller planes, but passenger jets have autopilots and more electronic assistance helping stabilise the plane, so that might make the process of landing actually easier in some ways. Plus, a smaller plane is far more susceptible to turbulence and shearing forces, which might be an added problem all on its own.
Whilst it hasn't happened, nowadays all you really need to do is to be able to guide the person into keying in the auto-pilot into the correct auto-pilot (and subsequently the auto-landing) modes; the flying can all be done by the auto-pilot itself. (see "I'm not a pilot. Can I land a 737?" by Tom Scott and MentourPIlot)
It's definitely still a hypothetical but way more possible compared to the scenario in this episode; something pointed out by the Subject Matter Expert in the conclusion of this episode.
Though one kind of instance shows the problem with the scenario. In 2005 Helios 522 had it's pressurization system off and the pilots didn't notice and they passed out. The plane kept flying until it reached Athens and went into a holding pattern but the auto-pilot wouldn't land until given the command to. A flight attendent kept himself conscious via bottled oxygen but the radio was set to the place the plane departed from and he didn't know how to operate it. So the plane crashed.
@@Lykas_mitts Helios 522 kind of showed the problem with the scenario. If you don't know how to operate the radio to get in contact with the ground then it's kinda hard to receive any instructions.
Did you not watch this exact episode that you commented on they were both talked down in simulator the closest anybody would allow them to attempt this in a large aircraft not to mention if you are calm at the time and you have a knowledgeable person giving you instruction you can absolutely follow without flaw provided you can see properly so cut the stupidity and enjoy the show
It’s so funny how they could figure out the 4000 feet in 90 seconds myth by doing some very basic physics but instead they chose to drop a dummy out of a plane just for the fun of it
That’s how scientific thinking should be taught in school.
Generate hypothesis, run tests, see if it holds.
Grant, after his jump, ecstatically hopping out of the plane...
"I'm alive! I'm alive".
Heartbreaking 😢 RIP, Grant.
It was his own brain that did him in.😔
Yeah that was a bit tough to listen to, knowing what we know now. But hopefully he’s doing well in heaven now.
*woop woop* "Don't think!" 😂
Actually saying, "Don't sink."
The freefall catch is pretty cool.
"put your tray tables in a fully upright position, make sure you have all your seatbelts engaged, and kiss your ass goodbye."
I like how the episode punctuates 'Captain' Jamie's statement that "I'd say this is gonna be a little bit of a rough landing" with a musical excitement sting taken straight from the 1966 Star Trek TV show. 6:40
I jumped out of the same airplane when I did a tandem skydive back in 2009, also with Sky Dance Sky Diving in Davis, CA.
I’m a flight instructor and I’m confident if I was an airline pilot I could talk someone down using autopilot with auto land capability. Hand flying an airliner, I think the odds are slim.
If it’s a small aircraft like a Cessna I could talk someone down. I give myself 50/50 odds depending on the persons personality and technical inclination.
The problem with heavies is controlling that energy, and knowing when to flare. A zero time know-nothing has no chance. A sim-pilots who flies Transports on Xplane probably has a better shot than a Cessna driver.
The problem I see with GA fleet is if there is a crosswind, it is not intuitive to side-slip without an explanation and demonstration. A zero-time person can be talked down, but it's rarely smooth.
39:40 i nearly fell out of my chair! hahaha
“Why is it telling me not to think” 😂😂
29:05 is never happened on a commercial flight, but it's definitely happened on small planes quite a few times
As an airline pilot this was entertaining to watch
How did it feel watching the first attempt without help lol
@@paulgentili1425 Precisely as you'd expect.
Plain " pull up", "trainne"
Guy #2 "ok"! Yanks up the yoke and stalls the plain immediately!!
I probably wouldn't do any better so no shame! 😂
Kari❤
Can a civilian land an airplane without any pilot training with help from a ATC? Absolutely, has happened at least a few times in fact but all of the cases have been in small personal aircraft or a small plane, it has never happened in a large passenger or cargo jet that i'm aware of. Also Adam's storyline of both pilot and co pilot being incapacitated by food poisoning and a civilian being forced to land the plane will never occur on a commerical airliner. Both pilots are required to eat different meals if they eat in flight so if one of them does get sick, the other can take control and land the plane. I'm not a pilot but i'm am a aviation geek and love commerical airplanes, Boeing 767-200 series in particular, especially Air Canada Flight 143, lovingly known as the Gimli Glider.
One of my favourite episodes out of S5
4:34 it's the microsoft flight simulator at nasa
FS9 yep
Idk if it’d make a difference, but I’d like to have seen them do the mid dive conversation between Grant and the instructor he was attached to, because Keanu was holding onto Patrick in the scene, so they were a lot closer than Dan was to Grant
I mean... They could have just asked the instructor if he can talk to the people he's attached to..
@@RedTail1-1 exactly what I said
Been there, done that. It's entirely possible to talk to your instructor in free fall. They got that one wrong.
@ well then I’d argue that’s movie myth confirmed
I forgot how cheezy the acting was on this show
"Oh shucks!" 😄
15:57 how fast you fall is dependent on your body position. It won’t be 90 seconds, but you could easily get 50% more with body control
crazy that no one ever had to land a commercial plane but there are 20+ stories of students first time or just flying to have instructor have heart attack and have to be landed by air control, remember they said "IN A COMMERCIAL" setting NOT PRIVATE airplanes.
With flying what a lot of people don't know is all they would do is tell the person how to use the autopilot and some basic instruments. If the runway has ILS the plane can literally land itself (see Cat III landing). Working the autopilot controls would be far easier for them than actually taking control.
Ask any skydiver and they would have told you:
1. you have about 10 sec MAX of freefall time from 4000 ft.
2. If you get really close and shout really loud, you MIGHT get a few words through.
3. Freefall in "spreadeagle" is about 100 mph. No-lift dive is over 200 mph. They can do the math at how long it would take someone to catch up.
"They don't just tell the myths, they put them to the test"
39:41 at least on the Airbus planes, I took part in that landing autopilot code, I don’t know how much I trust it
33:10 The different metal shapes do not have a different surface area (or frontal area in aerodynamic terms). Since they weigh the same and the metal thickness is the same, the cross-sectional area is the same. However, the spread shape does have a larger perimeter which, everything else being equal will increase wake drag as well as interference drag.
What makes a massive difference in drag is reducing the frontal area, not surface area.
When a skydiver points his or her body towards the ground, the amount of area as seen from the airflow's perspective (frontal area) is much lower, thus reducing drag, despite the face that the surface area is the same.
That looks like a simulator of an A320 series aircraft, so as I understand, it should come with flight envelope protections: it will let you fly into the ground, but it won’t let you stall (in normal law).
It is not. It says it simulates "a generic airliner" so it takes the sidestick from airbus (which ist really an airbus sidestick to begin with) and the Autopilot from Boeing along with tons of generic stuff.
18:02 caution was enough for him to figure out that he did in fact pull up
23:17 - "Grant may be alive."
😢
well...
I love the salmon mousse reference
Miss this show. I saw grant twice in person. Great presentations.
given the recent history, no1 can be talk into successfully landing a boeing plane🤣
11:18 this feels a lot like a regualr show scene can't figure out why tho
RIP Grant
The airplane situation happened in Florida months ago. The person did land the plane successfully with the tower help
It was a small plane, they said commercial airliner.
yea, havent someone landed commercial airliner too? i can remember one show on national geographic@@minttablett780
Remember; this episode aired a decade and a half ago.
@iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145 Maybe so but a larger plane takes a lot longer to react, hence a lot longer to recover from undesirable states. Getting slow in a cub is a simble matter of pitching the nise down and adding some throttle maybe losing 10 feet, whereas and a 321 like shown in this video would require the same imputs but losing vastly more altitude (think hundres of feet) given how long the engines take to spool (~4 seconds) and the amount of airspeed required to be gained to arrest the descent rate.
:'D why is there a red button at the joystick? press the red one! PRESS IIIIIIT!
That button empties the lavatory toilet in case a passenger clogs it
jk. There’s a joystick on both sides for each pilot, the red button is for switching control of the plane between them
24:26 Oooh! Bloody Hell that was close!!?!
34:27 Some people believe this how Grant started to develop that Barry anyeruism that would be his doom later
I’m not 100% sure but I believe this is entirely possible.
And funnily enough it’s exactly what I thought when that scene was on.
joystick to the side of the pilot seat, this isn't a generic aircraft its an airbus lol
Catagory 3 instrument approach is also called auto land in transport class aircraft.
Big difference in a air traffic controller and a pilot talking you down...
28:42 FSX is the sim.
Thing is, in the movie 'Airplane!', the guy that came in to fly the plane was a pilot in WWII.
Would a passenger attempting to land the plane know how to contact ATC? With all the buttons I don’t believe a passenger could figure out what to push.
I love how it says courtesy of Microsoft corporation for the graphics.. when now as long as you got a new age Xbox you can play simulator games yourself :P
It's also somewhat easier to land with bigger plane. The autopilot can actually do that. It's just matter of programming in where.
Yeah.... as long as you can figure out where the autopilot IS (and modern passenger jets have a VERY complex system of "autopilot")
@@lloydsumpter7735if they have time/fuel and nothing is damaged (which is unlikely if both pilots are unconscious) it's possible.
Was the skydiving plane with the dummy VFR into IMC 😂
Think the 4,000ft drop time should be re-done. They measured 4,000ft above sea-level (that’s what aircraft altimeters read) and did not drop the dummy from 4,000ft AGL (above ground level).
They’re actually wrong about people being talked into landing with incapacitated pilots. It might not have ever happened on a large, passenger jet but off the top of my head, I’m aware of at least 3 GA aircraft that have been “talked down” after the instructor/pilot/spouse keeled over at the controls.
They said commercial airliner.
GA yes. It’s been done.
I like the Airplane! movie.
It’s great that they concluded one skydiver could catch another skydiver with a 15 sec. Delay, but does anyone know what would happen if they made contact at that speed? 250mph catching 120mph. I’m no good at math, but is that 130mph hitting a dead stop?
Wow they got Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze
22:52 Not an accurate test; using just the knowledge of an air traffic controller. I am sure, if this were to ever happen, they would get an experienced pilot. At least, they did in Airplane!
I still say that the free fall catch up thing was kind of busted given that he only just caught them. To have caught them and acted out a scene like in the movie they’d have had to have jumped out of a spaceship!
Unpopular opinion, the new point break is way better than the original
People have been talked down in small planes.
26:54 thats what they call a fly by wire plane? there is no control wheel? no physical imput to the Flight control surfaces? what if the computers shut down? they could still fly using that stick?
Not in an airbus, such as the one they were flying. The side stick is not attaced to any of the flight control surfaces. Its a box that is connected to computers via wires that control the flight surfaces.
Getting a Private Pilot License requires ~40 hours of flying - not hundreds. Granted, an ATPL requires 1500 these days ...
Pilots don't hold licenses. They're called certificates.
@@trailcamfinds9401 Only between 65deg West and 127 deg West. The rest of the planet calls it "license".
@@odril we were the first to powered flight. We're right
All the myths were busted when they go to the dropzone. Fun to watch tho.
Did anyone else understand the salmon mousse reference am I alone?
RIP Grant Imahara
nice
It should be illegal to be paid to have this much fun, but I'm glad it isn't.
they will tell you how to turn the autopilot on, planes can land and fly by themselfs
RIP SkyKing
probs to the cameraman going down with the speed guy
Funny enough, a passenger landing tge aircraft has happened a couple of times in General Aviation.
Once with an old man.
Once with an old lady.
Once with a young guy and I forget who the rest were.
That scene in airplane doesn't happen in real life when it comes to pilot eating the same thing. Just in case there is a chance of one who gets food poisoning.
It's kinda mind-blowing that an elderly woman landed a small plane in the same scenario, her husband died ( heart attack ) while they were flying together and she was talking to the control tower about how to land the plane and she made it.
If you don't believe me there's a clip here on TH-cam I'm sure you can find it
Shame one of the guys seems so unhappy 😢
Ladies and gentlemen this is your captain screaming *large inhale* AHHHHHH
There are just as many adds as when it aired on TV.
Always wanted to be a pilot. And I've ALWAYS wanted to try one of those simulators to see if my basic knowledge of flying can be put to work
There's nothing stopping you from being a pilot as long as you can afford flight lessons
4,000 feet pressure altitude or 4,000 feet agl? Nevermind, I'll just shut up and watch.
I'm pretty sure on long commercial flights, the pilots aren't allowed to eat the same meal specifically to avoid them both potentially getting food poisoning. However, if the pilots both became incapacitated, and someone else inside the commercial air line filled with people needed to land the plane, why wouldn't the flight attendant(s) do it? They certainly have more experience with flights than any single person on the commute. They've probably been in the cockpit more than any other person on the plane (that isn't a pilot). They may even have some knowledge of how to fly the plane. I'd much rather an attendant take the yoke over a random person with zero experience.
Your idea is actually the policy most airlines have. The different meals thing is very real, because of potential food poisoning.
If one of the pilots is out, flight attendants ask if there are any Commercial/Military/Private pilots among the passengers, and if there is, the remaining pilot enlists them to talk on the radio and read checklists. If not, then either the lead flight attendant will be enlisted as help, or the remaining pilot will fly solo. (this has happened a few times if one of the pilots has a medical emergency in flight, usually heart problems)
If both pilots are out, the flight attendants would ask for any Commercial/Military/Private pilots among the passengers, put them in charge, and provide as much help as they can. If there are no trained pilots among the passengers, then the flight attendants will take over and try to land themselves. (neither of these situations have ever happened on a commercial flight).
The only time a uninitiated passenger would be entrusted with the airplane is if the entire crew is incapacitated, and no other passengers step forward.
@@-caesarian-6078the big issue with a dual pilot incapacitation is that the door to the cockpit is locked and armored so unless one of the pilots realized they were fading away and opened the door the passengers would be SOL.
No passenger has ever landed a commercial jet, but it doesnt mean that its never been attempted. There was a flight where the pilots didnt pressurize the fuselage and everyone ended up passing out and one of the flight attendants who had found oxygen tank and had a private pilots license ended up crashing it away from a populated area in Greece.
No. The plane ran out of fuel and crashed.
That was not a “generic passenger plane” but an Airbus. And actually it is a bit imbarassing that neither of you is a pilot … 😅
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23:08 Grant is saying "I'm alive, I'm alive" but he's not he's been dead for years
damn son. Well he was. And so full of life back then too
okay but did kari get to skydive
Wondering what commercial aircraft this simulator is based off of…
None specifically. Its very generic. I guess it could be NASA's testbed for cockpit designs, or just a fairly basic Multicrew trainer
In the bit where one diver catches up with the other he would hit the other diver like a missile you'd have to be an expert to know when to spread your arms out and slow down before you collided you would be a missile boat divers would be killed
That last catchup stunt is a busted stunt cuz after catching up to the free fall diver , theres got to b time to cling on to the diver then pull the shoot... that is an impossible move.... catching up yes but its not the full stunt... the re enactment has to confirm whether the full stunt is possible or not... so that is a bust for sure...mythbusters trying to pull a cheeky one 😂😂😂😂
Highly entertaining, but the dialogues...eek! 😂
i miss grant