He’s not a fighter, he’s an athlete. He has the ability but you can tell he doesn’t like getting hit. If he doesn’t run over his opponent immediately he’ll be very tentative, or he is going to wilt as soon as someone puts it on him.
@electricnoob6970 too bad This isn’t collegiate wrestling, this is getting punched in your face, knocked out unconscious in tapped out. That takes different grit.
Yeah his attitude with fighting is like purposely getting a C- on a test even though you could have gotten an A and then saying "well I still passed so it doesn't matter." I used to be super hyped on this guy but I'm not exited to see him fight at all now, he had all the momentum in the world and he's just throwing it away by being totally delusional about the sport he is in.
Bo dug his own grave by comparing himself to Khamzat from the very start, khamzat never once backed out of his wrestling prowess, whilst Bo nickal was intimidated by washed paul craig's grappling. He can never be great with a mediocre self confidence.
@@airoHYT You mean how he dragged gilbert in the first rnd? Took him down again when he got swung down by gilbert, when he dropped gilbert he went after him again on the ground...
They're going to feed Nickal a ton of has been fighters to try and build him up for a few years before they actually give him a legit fighter. I hate when UFC protects fighters. Look at the treatment Gane is getting. He should have 1 foot out the door and he's the #2 challenger in HW.
@@fosyay1780I think you’re intentionally misunderstanding him. Bo has had 1 amateur fight before getting on the contender series Ben has had 20 professional fights. All of his Kos came from TKO over a much longer career. Bo has good power. It’s not even a comparison. Sure askren as a retired fighter has more KOs than a brand new fighter but not by a lot.
I think in terms of his personality, it's more that he's a legit NPC, he's just being told what to do by his marketing team/manager/UFC brass. He has no ability to think outside the box, or octagon. John Jones may have a f d up personality, but he has a personality, and is a complete maverick in society, an oddity. Bo is a damn robot, there's never gonna be any fight IQ within him.
I get this funny feeling that whenever bo nickal is in an mma fight he’s thinking about his time wrestling rather than actual mma fighting. When jones (or any great mma fighter) is in the cage they’re constantly thinking about how to finish the fight or finish the round strong and how to subdue/damage their opponent. Bo nickal seems like he kinda just thinks about what he was told by his coaches to do mid fight and then doing the techniques 1 by 1 without any flow together… and when he’s in a rough situation he’s prob gonna revert to wrestling and just try to not get pinned lmao
has nothing to do with his personality. hes just not gonna be one of the best and only way he will be able to hang with them is being the most boring fighter in the world.
“ John Jones may have a f d up personality, but he has a personality, and is a complete maverick in society, an oddity. Bo is a damn robot, there's never gonna be any fight IQ within him.” Jones was exactly like him until the charges kept piling up and he could no longer pretend to be a role model.
.. based on what? teaching is a special talent/skill and being great at something absolutely doesn't automatically translate to being great at teaching it. it's pretty easy to observe that the greatest teachers or coaches are very rarely the greatest at actually doing the thing (at any point in their life).
Dumb comment, he hasn’t fought anyone yet but Paul Craig until he starts fighting ranked guys and losing then I think this comment would make more sense
Taylor swift of the ufc. Extremely babied Preferential treatment Forced stardom (isnt interesting enough on his own, no charisma or anything) yet the ufc is forcing him on us Dana wants that wrestling dad audience Ufc is fasttracking his stardom, while annoyingly slowtracking his fighting career Its not an organic fasttrack (khamzat, pereira etc.) They know Bo is not THAT good And they treat him like hes a 20y old prospect, hes 29 End of rant
Bo is 28 and had his first professional fight 2 years ago. Dc was 29 when he had his first fight in strikeforce and didn’t win the Grand Prix until he was 32 and didn’t become ufc champ until like 37. Now Bo won’t have the same longevity as DC but what I’m saying is I believe wrestlers credential like DC and Bo will hit their peak a in mma a bit later than most fighters.
To be fair Craig is a natural light heavyweight and frame-wise was pretty large even for that division. Every single middleweight with the exception of maybe DDP is going to be frame mogged by Craig.
6:34 This right here is just amazing analysis. In old school mma the level of wrestling was so low all you had to do was get a hold of your opponent to take them down, which is why Askren dominated during his time. Today, guys are too high level, and you have to time takedowns really well to actually complete them, which is just completely different skill in mma compared to traditional wrestling. Bo needs to leave the penn state room and learn how to mix the wrestling with the striking instead of learning them separately
Charles Oliveira, "Lion of the Octagon" In the cage where warriors fight, A king emerged in brilliant light. Charles Oliveira, with hands so swift, A legend born, a timeless gift. Through trials fierce, he rose to reign, Overcoming doubt, enduring pain. A jiu-jitsu master, his grip so tight, Turning the tide with every fight. From the favelas, he did ascend, With every victory, his story penned. A heart of fire, relentless drive, In every moment, he came alive.
as a fighter, he doesn’t like being hit. as a person i genuinely don’t know what it is. i hate looking at him, listening to him everything abt him drives me crazy. he has way to much confidence and absolutely no aura
I also think he is at the wrong gym, ATT usually takes fighters who have one area where they are very good at and teach them some wrestling/cage wrestling and a well rounded game, Bo is already a very good wrestler, he need a gym who will develop a good kickboxing game to go with his grappling like kings MMA or Kill Cliff. Usually ATT takes good strikers or bjj guys and teach them some wrestling and wall walking, while these gyms take good grapplers and teach them a solid striking game. Just look at the wrestlers at ATT like Gamrot or Evloev, their game didn't significantly improved by training there.
It didn't really dawn on me how small he was for 185, I watched him vs Paul Craig and I couldn't believe how much smaller he was. I thought as that fight was going that he needs to go to 170
Another important thing to consider is that other highly acclaimed wrestlers that successfully transitioned like dc had whole careers in amateurs and other promotions before they got tested in the ufc. They had time to develop their style before fighting the best in the world.
nah dc didn't do ammys and he debuted in stirkeforce which wasn't exactly bum league's, in his 8th fight dc fought bigfoot who'd just battered fedor and in romeros 8th fight he fought brunson, bo's 7-0 and will likely fight someone unranked who he can get a highlight on he's simply not that guy
I so wanted to like him when he joined the UFC. Then he immediately spewed his bullshizzle about taking down Khamzat and he lost me forever. He's a pretentious arrogant know it all who will never win against the real fighters. Sure he dominates the unranked fighters but wait until he gets a real fight.
I come from wrestling and been a fan for 15 years. So many great wrestlers have that "pretending to be a human" factor to them its so weird. Makes me glad i joined at 15 instead of 5 years old.
When I was wrestling in the late 80s and 90s there was this weird pride in being dumb. Most of the top guys in my state were either genuinely idiots or pretending to be. Maybe that plays a part idk.
I remember when people said the same things about Dan Henderson. He was called Decision Dan. Labelled boring and would never be a champion. This is the nornal cycle.
I like this narrative you're pushing. I hope more people catch on. Will make my bo nickel bets all the more profitable. Bo is doing just fine, he's a developing fighter. You just have no idea what you're watching.
It's obviously true that MMA wrestling is not the same as collegiate wrestling, but you can say that for any one discipline. BJJ with a gi is not the same as MMA BJJ where fighters are shirtless. Boxing/kickboxing are not the same as MMA where your opponent can grab you, take you to the ground and choke you (none of which are allowed in boxing/kickboxing matches). We would never say that kickboxing doesn't prepare you for MMA just because the rules of kickboxing are very different than those of an MMA fight. Also, the rules of wrestling do allow you to disengage and circle away. You just can't run away, back straight up, or plant a fence to your back like you can in MMA. Of course, we can consider which backgrounds are currently most successful. Backgrounds of the current UFC champions: Flyweight: BJJ Bantamweight: Wrestling Featherweight: BJJ Lightweight: Wrestling Welterweight: Wrestling Middleweight: Kickboxing Light Heavyweight: Kickboxing Heavyweight: Wrestling "WrEsTlInG iS DyInG iN mMa!" Criticizing Bo for being "too small" for 185 is fair, but that's more of an indictment on the sport for allowing 36-hour rehydration periods, which essentially incentivizes unhealthy weight cuts and makes the sport less about the sport itself. Athletes SHOULD compete at levels closer to their natural weight instead of wringing as much water out of their bodies as they can without dying, then rehydrating for a couple days just to fight each other back at their natural weights. It's really weird to accept that as normal, then criticize the guy who just wants to fight closer to his natural body weight in the weight class where he actually belongs. Bo is the best wrestler in the UFC. He's 7-0 with six finishes. He just beat Paul Craig, who by your description was far too big and strong for him, and he did it without using ANY wrestling. I'm not saying he should be getting in the cage with DDP or Izzy right now, but saying he'll never be elite seems pointlessly harsh.
Neither Islam or Merab has ever had a tradional wrestling match in their lives. Both come from Sambo/judo, different grappling arts. But regardless, the point is that tradional wrestling doesn't translate to mma like it used to, not that the objective of taking someone down doesn't work anymore, I also agree you can say the same thing about other disciplines, idk what that proves. Also, Paul Craig is terrible and was getting taken down by Andre Muniz.
@@MMAChe.Folkstyle is actually on a renaissance. Mma is different blah blah blah. Sorry he didn't finish Craig for you like he did everyone else while figuring it out on the job. Bad coaching is a thing. He is Not undersized. Bo has forever looked smaller but throws ape looking dudes around like feed bags. It's a genetics thing which is why he's gonna keep getting ko's also. You gave up too soon
I've seen one or two interviews of his before getting to the UFC. He seemed like a down to earth professional, and a pretty smart one at that. I think he's now just trying to do the UFC tough guy shit to promote himself, but it doesn't suit his true personality.
People forget man, he has 2 years of professional MMA and is almost top 15 in the UFC, Poatan which is one of the fastest rising stars ever has 9 years of professional MMA. Give time to the guy, he may not get even to top 15, but what he has done until now is already great would be very hard to name people that has done better than that
The Pereira comment is definitely misleading. Pereira had 3 fights between 2015-2016 while also fighting in Glory. Then he didn't fight in MMA until 2020. His Debut in UFC was in 2021. In early 2022 he was fighting #4 Ranked Sean Strickland. By late 2022 he had Knocked out Long reigning Champion Adesayna. There are better examples than Pereira though. Belal for Example only became champion this year at 35 years old. Merab at 33. Islam at 31. It's fine for Bo to take the long route to the ring.
Ye congrats genius This will age like fucking milk. By god people like you are a sight to behold. Your braincells are like your teeth: nowhere to be found.
I get the feeling that Bo isnt fully committed to MMA, I get this feeling everytime that he hasnt let go of the fact that he didnt go to the Olympics for wrestling and that MMA is kind of the alternate path.
the real problem for bo is that he aint a fighter. He is just an athlete that did great in college wrestling. He didnt have to struggle in life, thats why he doesnt have that killing instinct and plays it safe. Its not like Sean that had a difficult childhood and actually enjoys the pain.
@ he doesn’t need to. He can out wrestle the top of the division already. Paul Craig was probably his toughest style matchup in the entire division & he shut him out in his 7th total fight.
@MidwesternMarx Paul Craig is absolutely not his toughest match up. Apart from 1 rear naked choke he's only ever hit arm bar triangles. Craig got taken down multiple times by Andre Muniz with zero threat, while Bo has grappled against Oliver Taza for ufc fight pass invitational whose about 10000x better than Craig. He was absolutely capable of taking down Craig and destroying him
Which is why it was his coaches. And he's got two RNC's, 1 arm triangle and 1 leg triangle. Has a purple belt now too. He will be set free at some point and believe me it'll all be intuitive
Olympic gold would be highest level of freestyle wrestling, bo reached the highest level of folkstyle, and he won a u23 world championship in freestyle.
He's won 3 Folkstyle Wrestling World titles & 3 Freestyle Wrestling World Titles The Olympics are a Freestyle Wrestling World Title once every 4 years, but on steroids
The Bo Nickal Protocol 1. Talk Shit about fighters infinitely better than you 2.Take up a main card spot and deliver a shitty performance against an unranked fighter 3.Cry and make excuses about how you only have 7 fight 4. Rinse repeat
I disagree completely. I think he could be world champion right now. I mean he's undefeated and his grappling is amazing. Yes he still needs to fine tune but he's unbeaten for a reason
If he fights someone with high level takedown defense who also has elite striking he's going to the shadow realm. The only reason it didn't happen last fight is that Craig is just as bad at striking as he is.
Bro started practicing striking like 3 weeks ago and has like 6 MMA fights and 30-27'd his opponent not going to his wrestling once and everybody calls him trash. Why don't we wait and see how his next 1-2 fights go before we completely dismiss the guy?
The way everyone talks about Bo Nickal, you'd think he lost. I'm not arguing that it was a great performance but he got it done against Paul Craig. That being said he does need to work on his striking, among other things.
As far as him as a person goes, could not agree more. Extremely unlikable and cringey human being. I don’t think he’s ever going to be well liked by the MMA fandom at large. As far as the analysis of him as a fighter though, this is just absolutely ridiculous lmao The amount of over analysis people and apparently also Che have done on Bo, is crazy 😂 he absolutely steam rolled Brundage the entire fight, but people are so locked in on a single failed takedown attempt. And for the Craig fight, you can say Bo’s performance was boring or ugly, but at the end of the day Paul landed almost nothing of note on Bo the entire fight and Bo was close to getting the knockout. He landed hits and did not get hit, which at the end of the day is all that matters. And for the size critique…dude lol. What? He’s like the same size as Izzy, Rob, or Chimaev. What are we even talking about here Again, I don’t like Bo as a person. But as a fighter, he’s going to continue winning. No matter what you think your eyes are telling you, he is that good
Bo does interviews where he calls Khamzat trash then he fights terribly and says “it’s only my 6th fight guys be easy on me” then after complains and says people don’t understand what they’re watching because his family and friends told him he did a good job
I agree with the take on why hes unlikeable, but hes been training with the best trainer at ATT, and hes actively working on MMA grappling as well as striking. He's still only 2 years into his MMA career and aged 28; by the time he's around 31-33, he's gonna be really good. Like being able to sub Cody Brundage(ik hes a can but his grappling isn't bad) with maybe a year and half of training is actually pretty impressive. Also, he can easily put on 5 or so pounds(hes apparently like 200ish in the cage) so he can physically match up better for 185.
American folk style wrestling used to be more complementary to fighting... Once wrestlers realized that throwing legs aka back take was not an efficient way to turn your opponent and score points, it largely got abandoned at the college and high school level
@danieldares2578 I've seen guys do it but it's not the dominant style anymore I don't think.... Ya it's very painful. I hated wrestling leg riders at practice. I was bad at getting out it because in ju jitsu the most common escape involves exposing your back which obviously you can't do in wrestling. I remember thinking, "I'm fucked if I have to wrestle this style in a tournament" and it never happened. I only had to deal with it in practice. I noticed the guys who were good at it, when wrestling the top guys, could only win matches by very small margins because legs are not the most effective way to get back exposure. Plus high school coaches at all the camps I went to discouraged it. The only kid I saw who was getting a lot of points throwing legs was a 4 time state champ who would often just throw 1 leg and then start his breakdown. With that being said I wrestled at one of the top public schools in Tennessee, a weak state for the sport, so maybe my perspective is a little warped.
To be honest, I am kind of conflicted. One could potentially argue that the takedown threat against Craig was not there. He wanted Bo to take him down as he has an insane amount of confidence in his BJJ. I guess it is plausible to say that any other fighter will bite on Bo's feints, which will certainly aid him in landing more strikes. However, it still seems kinda questionable why Bo's coaches did not want him to engage Craig on the ground. They need to believe in his grappling a little bit more, especially because he already has elite top control and scrambling ability due to being an accomplished folkstyle wrestler. This might be a controversial statement, but he probably was capable of completely dominating Craig on the ground and making it look easy. In fact, I cannot think of anyone in MW who could outscramble Bo. If Chimaev takes him down (Which is a big if), he might end up in a bad position. In any case, not being able to take people down is actually a huge obstacle that he needs to overcome. The size difference might play a role here, but it's also possible that he just does not pace himself that well. But yeah, knowing how to set up a takedown will probably go a long way here. And btw, I think he actually attends the wrestling room 4 days a week, which is way too much lmao. He needs to put more effort into becoming a better MMA fighter. On a different note: What do you think is next for him?
Don't be conflicted. Next is another finish. That simple. You said all the right things except a perceived weight problem which Bo has always looked smaller. It's that crazy genetics that packs so much density in that allows him to throw opponents like feed bags and knock people out. Just bad coaching right now
That's what the MMA fans could see more clearly under the bright lights, the dude is has serious wrestling skills (that doesn't translate so smooth into the grappling department) and has some pop in his shots (although he doesn't use it in the most effective form). The dude is just too square
Not even Dricus Du Plessis compared to him physicality wise but even climbing the rankings against guys like Vettori and Dolidze he's still notably smaller and weaker than those guys too.
Why are you confused? Bo was a great wrestler and now he’s trying to build up the hype to build up his audience to make money that he’s never made before. It is simple….he’s not trying to seek MMA universal truth. He wants to make a name for himself and make some money.
The intro was basically the same speech my mom gave to me when I turned 18. I feel attacked by che
real 😔
Your comment has me howling ahahahaha same tbf
He’s not a fighter, he’s an athlete. He has the ability but you can tell he doesn’t like getting hit. If he doesn’t run over his opponent immediately he’ll be very tentative, or he is going to wilt as soon as someone puts it on him.
You underestimate how tough a championship level collegiate wrestler is
Jesus Christ loves you so much and died for your sins✝️!
@electricnoob6970 too bad This isn’t collegiate wrestling, this is getting punched in your face, knocked out unconscious in tapped out. That takes different grit.
Yeah his attitude with fighting is like purposely getting a C- on a test even though you could have gotten an A and then saying "well I still passed so it doesn't matter." I used to be super hyped on this guy but I'm not exited to see him fight at all now, he had all the momentum in the world and he's just throwing it away by being totally delusional about the sport he is in.
Why is this rhetoric being astroturfed? You don’t become a national champ 3 times just being an “athlete” in the sport of wrestling.
Bo Nickal bulks up to LHW and becomes the only credentialed wrestler in the larger weight classes
Dudes ju-jitsu isn’t that good to hold people down and submit them. Poatan sleeps him off rip.
MMA che bulks up to atomweight
he needs to get on roids then, now he looks too small for middleweight
@@gregoryjones8440alex got controlled by izzy.
Ankalaev?
Snuggie goes hard
Actually, I bet it's very soft. And toasty. We can't forget the toastiness.
Someone is going to turn him into a highlight reel soon and iam here for it
Bo dug his own grave by comparing himself to Khamzat from the very start, khamzat never once backed out of his wrestling prowess, whilst Bo nickal was intimidated by washed paul craig's grappling. He can never be great with a mediocre self confidence.
But, Gilbert burns?
@@airoHYT You mean how he dragged gilbert in the first rnd? Took him down again when he got swung down by gilbert, when he dropped gilbert he went after him again on the ground...
Very true. GSP said it best, having skill without confidence is like having loads of money but no way of access to it.
@@WeAreGhurabaYou mean how burns bjj made khamzat strike most of the fight. Lol
They're going to feed Nickal a ton of has been fighters to try and build him up for a few years before they actually give him a legit fighter.
I hate when UFC protects fighters. Look at the treatment Gane is getting. He should have 1 foot out the door and he's the #2 challenger in HW.
Mark Zuckerberg created a Bot that could wrestle and named it Bot Nickal, there's the explanation everyone needed
Hahaha i wish I'd read this before uploading my comment
Don't forget he's still undefeated he knocked out how many guys submitted how many guys. So you're just all full of Bs haters.
Bo Nickal hitting us with the ben askren punches
Dudes got multiple KOs, that’s already better.
@@zade8586 Bo has 2, Ben has 6
Seriously, why go online just to lie about something that takes 10 seconds and two Wikipedia searches to find out?
@@fosyay1780the difference is their number of fights and the way the fights are stopped (Askren had tkos, Nickal legit 1 punch slept people)
He needs to go to Thailand for a year
@@fosyay1780I think you’re intentionally misunderstanding him. Bo has had 1 amateur fight before getting on the contender series Ben has had 20 professional fights. All of his Kos came from TKO over a much longer career.
Bo has good power. It’s not even a comparison. Sure askren as a retired fighter has more KOs than a brand new fighter but not by a lot.
Che is really doing psychology and body language breakdowns on day 3 of the ufc hiatus.
equivalent of the nba offseason
@iiisaiahx6764 those get Soo stupid 😭
@@iiisaiahx6764equivalent of the lakers trade rumors every year 😭😂
And we always end up with nothing 😭
I think in terms of his personality, it's more that he's a legit NPC, he's just being told what to do by his marketing team/manager/UFC brass. He has no ability to think outside the box, or octagon.
John Jones may have a f d up personality, but he has a personality, and is a complete maverick in society, an oddity. Bo is a damn robot, there's never gonna be any fight IQ within him.
I get this funny feeling that whenever bo nickal is in an mma fight he’s thinking about his time wrestling rather than actual mma fighting. When jones (or any great mma fighter) is in the cage they’re constantly thinking about how to finish the fight or finish the round strong and how to subdue/damage their opponent. Bo nickal seems like he kinda just thinks about what he was told by his coaches to do mid fight and then doing the techniques 1 by 1 without any flow together… and when he’s in a rough situation he’s prob gonna revert to wrestling and just try to not get pinned lmao
has nothing to do with his personality. hes just not gonna be one of the best and only way he will be able to hang with them is being the most boring fighter in the world.
“ John Jones may have a f d up personality, but he has a personality, and is a complete maverick in society, an oddity. Bo is a damn robot, there's never gonna be any fight IQ within him.”
Jones was exactly like him until the charges kept piling up and he could no longer pretend to be a role model.
I see you don't follow wrestling at all and know nothing about Bo Nickel as an athlete or a person. 👏
@@MrMalzers I see you're a fellow NPC of Bo's 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🤖
Bot nickel could’ve been the greatest wrestling coach of all time.
Now he is just a Mid-Middleweight.
Your r3tart3ed his coach Cael Sanderson is the greatest wrestling coach of all time.
.. based on what? teaching is a special talent/skill and being great at something absolutely doesn't automatically translate to being great at teaching it. it's pretty easy to observe that the greatest teachers or coaches are very rarely the greatest at actually doing the thing (at any point in their life).
For a guy who started fighting 2 years ago he’s not bad
Dumb comment, he hasn’t fought anyone yet but Paul Craig until he starts fighting ranked guys and losing then I think this comment would make more sense
Taylor swift of the ufc.
Extremely babied
Preferential treatment
Forced stardom (isnt interesting enough on his own, no charisma or anything) yet the ufc is forcing him on us
Dana wants that wrestling dad audience
Ufc is fasttracking his stardom, while annoyingly slowtracking his fighting career
Its not an organic fasttrack (khamzat, pereira etc.)
They know Bo is not THAT good
And they treat him like hes a 20y old prospect, hes 29
End of rant
Bo is 28 and had his first professional fight 2 years ago. Dc was 29 when he had his first fight in strikeforce and didn’t win the Grand Prix until he was 32 and didn’t become ufc champ until like 37. Now Bo won’t have the same longevity as DC but what I’m saying is I believe wrestlers credential like DC and Bo will hit their peak a in mma a bit later than most fighters.
Completely agree with you, by the time Bo gets his fighting skills on par with ufc elite.. he will be 37..38 and defeated
What is tailor swift
Fun fact : Khamzat and Pereira both have freemason ties, that's why they got THAT famous lately
(Look up Pereira's handler and Khamzat's barber)
@@joeswanson5486 dc was 32 when he had his first fight in strikeforce and no i disagree, bo's a competitor guys like dc and romero are fighters
Showing Bo in the cage with Paul Craig was wild. The size difference is staggering!
Paul Craig is a big MW
To be fair Craig is a natural light heavyweight and frame-wise was pretty large even for that division. Every single middleweight with the exception of maybe DDP is going to be frame mogged by Craig.
But Craig is a light heavyweight, who just decided to cut to MW in his last couple of fights
@@sammyj1446 oh snap I did not realize that!
Paul Craig was LHW.
Bot “picking blueberries” Nickal literally buffering mid fight so his AI could adjust was enough to let me know he’s ready for Chimaev
LMAO
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6:34 This right here is just amazing analysis. In old school mma the level of wrestling was so low all you had to do was get a hold of your opponent to take them down, which is why Askren dominated during his time. Today, guys are too high level, and you have to time takedowns really well to actually complete them, which is just completely different skill in mma compared to traditional wrestling. Bo needs to leave the penn state room and learn how to mix the wrestling with the striking instead of learning them separately
He needs to do sambo.
@@HaroldBluetooth-uz1zzHe's gonna do it alright but he's just gonna separate the sam from the bow that's all😂😂.
Charles Oliveira, "Lion of the Octagon"
In the cage where warriors fight,
A king emerged in brilliant light.
Charles Oliveira, with hands so swift,
A legend born, a timeless gift.
Through trials fierce, he rose to reign,
Overcoming doubt, enduring pain.
A jiu-jitsu master, his grip so tight,
Turning the tide with every fight.
From the favelas, he did ascend,
With every victory, his story penned.
A heart of fire, relentless drive,
In every moment, he came alive.
Amen.
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Is that a yanket from family guy?
Snuggie.
as a fighter, he doesn’t like being hit. as a person i genuinely don’t know what it is. i hate looking at him, listening to him everything abt him drives me crazy. he has way to much confidence and absolutely no aura
3:33 "Halal" means "permissible" or "lawful" in Arabic, while "haram" means "forbidden" or "unlawful"
I also think he is at the wrong gym, ATT usually takes fighters who have one area where they are very good at and teach them some wrestling/cage wrestling and a well rounded game, Bo is already a very good wrestler, he need a gym who will develop a good kickboxing game to go with his grappling like kings MMA or Kill Cliff. Usually ATT takes good strikers or bjj guys and teach them some wrestling and wall walking, while these gyms take good grapplers and teach them a solid striking game. Just look at the wrestlers at ATT like Gamrot or Evloev, their game didn't significantly improved by training there.
he's of the ilk that doesn't want to leave "free" florida to go train w/ a decent striking gym like AKA or Kings.
The blue blanket/straitjacket complements your eyes. Beautiful.
Yaaa, totally fits in with his knocked out teeth for the complete hobo starter pack.
It didn't really dawn on me how small he was for 185, I watched him vs Paul Craig and I couldn't believe how much smaller he was. I thought as that fight was going that he needs to go to 170
yeah but pauls also a big 85 tbf
Craig is lhw, and unlike middleweight top welterweight rankings full of grappler lol.
He’s not small at all for middleweight. Craig is just a monster
Che becoming my favorite mma youtuber with this
love the bo slander. His attitude is what killed it for everyone.
doesn't have a ped physique, doesn't cut weight, i have to agree with you unfortunately
Eu lembro das pessoas comparando ele ao chimaev, mas eles são de níveis muito diferentes.
@@musicasdeteclado5492for sure, any version of Chimaev would’ve absolutely demolished Craig, Nickal chose to point fight
@@musicasdeteclado5492but Chimaev has 1 round cardio. Chimaev can't submit him in 1 round, he'll drown himself
Che looks like a concerned grandma in this video.
So, not only does Nickal suck at MMA, he sucks at weight cutting too
0:00 yapster begins
Another important thing to consider is that other highly acclaimed wrestlers that successfully transitioned like dc had whole careers in amateurs and other promotions before they got tested in the ufc. They had time to develop their style before fighting the best in the world.
nah dc didn't do ammys and he debuted in stirkeforce which wasn't exactly bum league's, in his 8th fight dc fought bigfoot who'd just battered fedor and in romeros 8th fight he fought brunson, bo's 7-0 and will likely fight someone unranked who he can get a highlight on he's simply not that guy
I so wanted to like him when he joined the UFC. Then he immediately spewed his bullshizzle about taking down Khamzat and he lost me forever. He's a pretentious arrogant know it all who will never win against the real fighters. Sure he dominates the unranked fighters but wait until he gets a real fight.
I come from wrestling and been a fan for 15 years. So many great wrestlers have that "pretending to be a human" factor to them its so weird. Makes me glad i joined at 15 instead of 5 years old.
When I was wrestling in the late 80s and 90s there was this weird pride in being dumb. Most of the top guys in my state were either genuinely idiots or pretending to be. Maybe that plays a part idk.
Wrestling is the greatest sport in terms of pushing your limits, mentality and physicality so I can understand why
@@EliasRoy That is definitely true.
Bo is an average blue collar fighter. Those types typically plateau early.
Brother, haram is bad☠️😭I think you meant halal
thats what im saying
I think he has a weird sense of humor lol
So what?
I remember when people said the same things about Dan Henderson. He was called Decision Dan. Labelled boring and would never be a champion. This is the nornal cycle.
I like this narrative you're pushing. I hope more people catch on. Will make my bo nickel bets all the more profitable. Bo is doing just fine, he's a developing fighter. You just have no idea what you're watching.
It's obviously true that MMA wrestling is not the same as collegiate wrestling, but you can say that for any one discipline. BJJ with a gi is not the same as MMA BJJ where fighters are shirtless. Boxing/kickboxing are not the same as MMA where your opponent can grab you, take you to the ground and choke you (none of which are allowed in boxing/kickboxing matches). We would never say that kickboxing doesn't prepare you for MMA just because the rules of kickboxing are very different than those of an MMA fight. Also, the rules of wrestling do allow you to disengage and circle away. You just can't run away, back straight up, or plant a fence to your back like you can in MMA. Of course, we can consider which backgrounds are currently most successful.
Backgrounds of the current UFC champions:
Flyweight: BJJ
Bantamweight: Wrestling
Featherweight: BJJ
Lightweight: Wrestling
Welterweight: Wrestling
Middleweight: Kickboxing
Light Heavyweight: Kickboxing
Heavyweight: Wrestling
"WrEsTlInG iS DyInG iN mMa!"
Criticizing Bo for being "too small" for 185 is fair, but that's more of an indictment on the sport for allowing 36-hour rehydration periods, which essentially incentivizes unhealthy weight cuts and makes the sport less about the sport itself. Athletes SHOULD compete at levels closer to their natural weight instead of wringing as much water out of their bodies as they can without dying, then rehydrating for a couple days just to fight each other back at their natural weights. It's really weird to accept that as normal, then criticize the guy who just wants to fight closer to his natural body weight in the weight class where he actually belongs.
Bo is the best wrestler in the UFC.
He's 7-0 with six finishes.
He just beat Paul Craig, who by your description was far too big and strong for him, and he did it without using ANY wrestling.
I'm not saying he should be getting in the cage with DDP or Izzy right now, but saying he'll never be elite seems pointlessly harsh.
Neither Islam or Merab has ever had a tradional wrestling match in their lives. Both come from Sambo/judo, different grappling arts. But regardless, the point is that tradional wrestling doesn't translate to mma like it used to, not that the objective of taking someone down doesn't work anymore, I also agree you can say the same thing about other disciplines, idk what that proves. Also, Paul Craig is terrible and was getting taken down by Andre Muniz.
Bro said literally everything and nothing at the same time
@@MMAChe.Folkstyle is actually on a renaissance. Mma is different blah blah blah. Sorry he didn't finish Craig for you like he did everyone else while figuring it out on the job. Bad coaching is a thing.
He is Not undersized. Bo has forever looked smaller but throws ape looking dudes around like feed bags. It's a genetics thing which is why he's gonna keep getting ko's also. You gave up too soon
The reaction to the bo nickel video 😂😂😂
I can’t believe Bo Nickal was the alien that abducted GSP this whole time
Che the type of guy to turn on you after a close fight
@3 seconds; Pause
Bro was showcasing his new speech synthesizers in that video, with output capabilities of a whopping 20 WPMs 😭
Che wtf is that sweater
It's a snuggy
Goes hard yk 🔥 🔥 🔥
@@MMAChe. Liar, I know you're casting spells
I've seen one or two interviews of his before getting to the UFC. He seemed like a down to earth professional, and a pretty smart one at that. I think he's now just trying to do the UFC tough guy shit to promote himself, but it doesn't suit his true personality.
He would be better if he stopped trying to be a striker, Like Khabib said “Brother you wrestler, just wrestle.”
People forget man, he has 2 years of professional MMA and is almost top 15 in the UFC, Poatan which is one of the fastest rising stars ever has 9 years of professional MMA. Give time to the guy, he may not get even to top 15, but what he has done until now is already great would be very hard to name people that has done better than that
Bo’s first fight was on the contender series where Alex had mma fights in the middle of his kickboxing career and didn’t get into the ufc until 2021.
Bo is 28...
Tj dillashaw took 4 years to be champ
The Pereira comment is definitely misleading. Pereira had 3 fights between 2015-2016 while also fighting in Glory. Then he didn't fight in MMA until 2020. His Debut in UFC was in 2021. In early 2022 he was fighting #4 Ranked Sean Strickland. By late 2022 he had Knocked out Long reigning Champion Adesayna.
There are better examples than Pereira though. Belal for Example only became champion this year at 35 years old. Merab at 33. Islam at 31. It's fine for Bo to take the long route to the ring.
Bot Nickal
Ye congrats genius
This will age like fucking milk.
By god people like you are a sight to behold. Your braincells are like your teeth: nowhere to be found.
😂 👍
Ouch, my teeth, my one insecurity
Amazing garment. Looks like a snug fit while allowing your arms to be completely free
I get the feeling that Bo isnt fully committed to MMA, I get this feeling everytime that he hasnt let go of the fact that he didnt go to the Olympics for wrestling and that MMA is kind of the alternate path.
the real problem for bo is that he aint a fighter. He is just an athlete that did great in college wrestling. He didnt have to struggle in life, thats why he doesnt have that killing instinct and plays it safe.
Its not like Sean that had a difficult childhood and actually enjoys the pain.
Bro used sean as an example 😂
Good point, im just bsing. They are both white americans that play it safe
Sorry for his whiteness problem evidently. It's how you play the cards you were given. Bo's a killer. You somehow missed that
These videos about Bo won’t age well
Bo fixing his game and correcting his errors wouldn't change what he's doing now
@ he doesn’t need to. He can out wrestle the top of the division already. Paul Craig was probably his toughest style matchup in the entire division & he shut him out in his 7th total fight.
@MidwesternMarx Paul Craig is absolutely not his toughest match up. Apart from 1 rear naked choke he's only ever hit arm bar triangles. Craig got taken down multiple times by Andre Muniz with zero threat, while Bo has grappled against Oliver Taza for ufc fight pass invitational whose about 10000x better than Craig. He was absolutely capable of taking down Craig and destroying him
Which is why it was his coaches. And he's got two RNC's, 1 arm triangle and 1 leg triangle. Has a purple belt now too.
He will be set free at some point and believe me it'll all be intuitive
He’s still progressing. Still undefeated. He’s not ready for anyone near the top yet. I’m interested to see him climb that ladder
I think he'll be good and he will improve
He should fight the winner of Rodolfo viera and jacob malkoun
How exactly do his wrestling accolades stack up to an Olympic gold medal in wrestling?
Olympic gold would be highest level of freestyle wrestling, bo reached the highest level of folkstyle, and he won a u23 world championship in freestyle.
Bo was also a finalist in the Olympic trials and the guy who beat Bo went on to win a gold medal.
He's won 3 Folkstyle Wrestling World titles & 3 Freestyle Wrestling World Titles
The Olympics are a Freestyle Wrestling World Title once every 4 years, but on steroids
Folkstyle translates to mma and fighting in general much better
Excellent points made here. You’re 100% right. He needs to fight at 170.
I agree with the title so I’m here…
Thst bot Nickal promo reminds me of lonzo Ball promoting his sneakers
Lol I had never seen the Bo fighter video, lmao that was genuinely uncomfortable 😂😂😂
I do think Bo should drop a weight class.
So basically he’s a boring man of God and he’s not a weight bully and that’s why you hate him lmao. Got it
That pretty much sums it up for most of the haters here. lol.
Nah. He's a hype train who was force fed on us.
@@Andrew-un8tx nahh. People are just miserable and want to cry about everything lmfao
@@Exoticband1123 ain't nobody crying here but you, though.
@@Andrew-un8tx you’re hating and crying on a man that doesn’t know you exist 😭🫵. He’s a top wrestler with good prospects. Not deep. Cry
Y’all gotta chill. Dudes undefeated. You just don’t like how he wins and that’s ok. Striking clearly needs to improve for sure though
if bo fought at welterweight he'd realistically have a good run
That Snuggie® has Che looking like he's about to grade the potions we just brewed at the world's most generic wizard academy.🧙🏻
He teaches part time at the Vincent Clortho Public School for Wizards.
The Bo Nickal Protocol
1. Talk Shit about fighters infinitely better than you
2.Take up a main card spot and deliver a shitty performance against an unranked fighter
3.Cry and make excuses about how you only have 7 fight
4. Rinse repeat
I disagree completely. I think he could be world champion right now. I mean he's undefeated and his grappling is amazing. Yes he still needs to fine tune but he's unbeaten for a reason
He's been spoon fed bums, that's why he's undefeated. Like the majority of khabobs initial opponents
Joking right? Maybe in 4 or 5 years minimum. Grappling is amazing but didn't even try to Takedown Paul.
If he fights someone with high level takedown defense who also has elite striking he's going to the shadow realm. The only reason it didn't happen last fight is that Craig is just as bad at striking as he is.
I am a Bo Nickal fan, but I must say you have some very valid points and 100% agree with you.
Bro started practicing striking like 3 weeks ago and has like 6 MMA fights and 30-27'd his opponent not going to his wrestling once and everybody calls him trash.
Why don't we wait and see how his next 1-2 fights go before we completely dismiss the guy?
Is that slanket available from the MMA Che shop? 😆
3:36 think u mean halal
The Muslims are halal lol. Haram is the stuff that's forbidden
We're here for khabib slander not the american hero
The way everyone talks about Bo Nickal, you'd think he lost. I'm not arguing that it was a great performance but he got it done against Paul Craig. That being said he does need to work on his striking, among other things.
As far as him as a person goes, could not agree more. Extremely unlikable and cringey human being. I don’t think he’s ever going to be well liked by the MMA fandom at large. As far as the analysis of him as a fighter though, this is just absolutely ridiculous lmao
The amount of over analysis people and apparently also Che have done on Bo, is crazy 😂 he absolutely steam rolled Brundage the entire fight, but people are so locked in on a single failed takedown attempt. And for the Craig fight, you can say Bo’s performance was boring or ugly, but at the end of the day Paul landed almost nothing of note on Bo the entire fight and Bo was close to getting the knockout. He landed hits and did not get hit, which at the end of the day is all that matters. And for the size critique…dude lol. What? He’s like the same size as Izzy, Rob, or Chimaev. What are we even talking about here
Again, I don’t like Bo as a person. But as a fighter, he’s going to continue winning. No matter what you think your eyes are telling you, he is that good
Bo does interviews where he calls Khamzat trash then he fights terribly and says “it’s only my 6th fight guys be easy on me” then after complains and says people don’t understand what they’re watching because his family and friends told him he did a good job
I agree with the take on why hes unlikeable, but hes been training with the best trainer at ATT, and hes actively working on MMA grappling as well as striking. He's still only 2 years into his MMA career and aged 28; by the time he's around 31-33, he's gonna be really good. Like being able to sub Cody Brundage(ik hes a can but his grappling isn't bad) with maybe a year and half of training is actually pretty impressive. Also, he can easily put on 5 or so pounds(hes apparently like 200ish in the cage) so he can physically match up better for 185.
American folk style wrestling used to be more complementary to fighting... Once wrestlers realized that throwing legs aka back take was not an efficient way to turn your opponent and score points, it largely got abandoned at the college and high school level
Nah. It's totally still there and if you watch PSU it's super painful
@danieldares2578 I've seen guys do it but it's not the dominant style anymore I don't think.... Ya it's very painful. I hated wrestling leg riders at practice. I was bad at getting out it because in ju jitsu the most common escape involves exposing your back which obviously you can't do in wrestling. I remember thinking, "I'm fucked if I have to wrestle this style in a tournament" and it never happened. I only had to deal with it in practice.
I noticed the guys who were good at it, when wrestling the top guys, could only win matches by very small margins because legs are not the most effective way to get back exposure. Plus high school coaches at all the camps I went to discouraged it. The only kid I saw who was getting a lot of points throwing legs was a 4 time state champ who would often just throw 1 leg and then start his breakdown. With that being said I wrestled at one of the top public schools in Tennessee, a weak state for the sport, so maybe my perspective is a little warped.
He’s a fit Mark Zuckerberg
finally a wrestling dad possessing Che has left him
Eu lembro que as pessoas estavam começando a comparar ele e o chimaev, mas em qualquer aspecto eles tem niveis muito diferentes.
No way bro recorded this wearing a snuggie
Have you seen his heat bill? The thermostat stays on 55°F, and Che stays in the Snuggie®.
To be honest, I am kind of conflicted.
One could potentially argue that the takedown threat against Craig was not there. He wanted Bo to take him down as he has an insane amount of confidence in his BJJ. I guess it is plausible to say that any other fighter will bite on Bo's feints, which will certainly aid him in landing more strikes. However, it still seems kinda questionable why Bo's coaches did not want him to engage Craig on the ground. They need to believe in his grappling a little bit more, especially because he already has elite top control and scrambling ability due to being an accomplished folkstyle wrestler. This might be a controversial statement, but he probably was capable of completely dominating Craig on the ground and making it look easy. In fact, I cannot think of anyone in MW who could outscramble Bo. If Chimaev takes him down (Which is a big if), he might end up in a bad position.
In any case, not being able to take people down is actually a huge obstacle that he needs to overcome. The size difference might play a role here, but it's also possible that he just does not pace himself that well. But yeah, knowing how to set up a takedown will probably go a long way here.
And btw, I think he actually attends the wrestling room 4 days a week, which is way too much lmao. He needs to put more effort into becoming a better MMA fighter.
On a different note: What do you think is next for him?
Don't be conflicted. Next is another finish. That simple. You said all the right things except a perceived weight problem which Bo has always looked smaller. It's that crazy genetics that packs so much density in that allows him to throw opponents like feed bags and knock people out.
Just bad coaching right now
Bro has no front teeth, can't afford heating (hence, the snuggie), has paper cut-outs as his background.
But mma Che is legend.
😂
Bo not training in a cage is madness. You see ATT Training ina room, but they have padded walls to utilise.
You know he’s serious when he’s in the Snuggy
Rinya Nakamura from bantam weight has better wrestling Acalades
He doesn't have hands. He needs years of striking training and experience to compete at this level.
I hate your takes but never considered Bo just being too small for his weight class
That's what the MMA fans could see more clearly under the bright lights, the dude is has serious wrestling skills (that doesn't translate so smooth into the grappling department) and has some pop in his shots (although he doesn't use it in the most effective form).
The dude is just too square
Not even Dricus Du Plessis compared to him physicality wise but even climbing the rankings against guys like Vettori and Dolidze he's still notably smaller and weaker than those guys too.
Che what was your record as a wrestler? Folkstyle.
That promo really made me wanna delete myself.
My opinion on Bo Nickal arrived
There is no “hard truth” about Bo, just truth.
Alot of these American Wrestlers are struggling to translate their skills into MMA.
2:13 he sounds like a robot
You are right Bo needs to go down to 170
Why are you confused? Bo was a great wrestler and now he’s trying to build up the hype to build up his audience to make money that he’s never made before. It is simple….he’s not trying to seek MMA universal truth. He wants to make a name for himself and make some money.
Snuggie game on point, King 💞
Truly a bot but if he wins the world title all this hate would age so well