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RV owners are the only people i know who spend a lot of money on a product while accepting much less. I never owned one that didnt take at least 2 years to get poor workmanship corrected. The industry definitely needs to be regulated. I wish you the best. For me..... I returned to backpacking and couldn't be happier.
Agreed, I just use my van or motorcycle with my backpacking gear now, so much easier and more fun. If I din't have RV access at my house I wouldn't even own one, I only use it twice a year at the most now.
its is not difficult to glue up PVC connections so that they do not leak. This simply is poor workmanship and QC at the factory. That drain pipe was not even glued at all. It appeared to be dry connected. The drain plug and pipe leaks demonstrate a team of amatures assembeled the RV. If you as the new owner are taking the time to run water down the drain to check for leaks, I would have thought the manufacturer in their QC program could have done the same. Apparently they do not have a QC program, otherwise they would have noticed those leaks. The answer is to avoid that manufacturer. I completely disagree that this should be a normal expectation to work out new ownership problems.
Seems like pitching a tent is a way to go-no overhead , no repairs, cheap, of course there is that wild animals danger and proper food storage. Most campgrounds have toilets, showers. Ive been thinking about this instead RV. Can you point me to great tent camping resources, id appreciate it. Thanks!
Paradigm needs to up their PDI process. This wasn't a parts failure, it was a labor failure. I don't believe that joint was ever glued. Good learning opportunity for them.
Yeah, it looks like they dry fitted it and forgot to come back and actually glue it. I think all these manufacturers need to run water through all the lines and drains as part of their inspection process.
Alliance absolutley needs to up their PDI process...we were considering Alliance and seeing all the things. large and small, wrong with new units scared me off...I was in a FB group twice over three years, coming back a few months ago but saw too many of the same complaints including cracked walls...that cult thing is true...there were far too many people that had to take their new or nearly new unit to the factory for repair...if you live far from Indiana that must suck!
I purchased a “NEW” Avenue 36 BRM and have had nothing but problems within 4 months of ownership. Leveling system inoperable, busted trim pieces. Faulty grey/black tank valves. Faulty kitchen plumbing. Awnings don’t shut, keeps blowing the hides. Slide 3 doesn’t shut. Both A/C systems don’t cool below 10 degree from ambient temp. And alliance customer service is a joke. I hate it for ya. Glad you uploaded a video, maybe it will educate people on going a different route for their camper purchase.
OMG, the amount of wiring & tubing below decks at 14:07 into this video was frightening given that this Fifth Wheel shakes, rattles & roles down the road. My wife & I love your channel; because it confirms for us after every episode that we did the correct thing in retirement by not getting an RV. We bought a Jeep to take it on occasional shorter trips and used the money we would have spent on an RV to stay in boutique hotels. We don’t get to travel as much or as far but then again there are no leaks. The Jeep could break, but it’s easy to have it towed to the nearest dealer, and take a rent a car home. And again, with the money we saved not buying an RV just pay to have a Car Transport ship the Jeep back. At our age we’re tired of adventure we just want an occasional cool vacation. LOL!
So much for Alliance being so much better then everyone else. Kind of how Grand Design started out. We used to own a GD, bought brand new, and we had a good share of problems. Hopefully you don't have water in the belly. That's a nightmare. Oh, and who thought putting the water heater on top of the furnace......Same as my Momentum, when the water heater leaks, there goes the furnace, too.
Alliance has never claimed to be perfect. They simply go above and beyond with customer service to ensure a great outcome and it is their customer service that elevates them above the rest. Owners have the cell numbers of the owners and the VPs so if there is any major issue or concern, it can be addressed quickly. I've posted a question on the Facebook group on Independence Day weekend (they've already announced they will be away for a few days with their families) and within 20 minutes I received a call from the VP of Customer Experience to answer my questions. THAT'S what makes Alliance better than everyone else. Not perfect but better.
I have 3 friends that all went with Alliance. All 3 had multiple QC problems. Consistent hacked work. IE Wiring, water connections, fit and finish. 2 have trade already on with a Jayco and one with a Montana. Both have not had any problems. One of them stayed with it, and nicked name it fix it Fred. But they still love it. I agree, though they all said that they had good customer service. But would rather have less problems.
Something like this should have been discovered during prepping and delivery. We’ve all had those kind of experiences, but it really can take the initial joy away. Don’t let it get you down and keep your joy!!
Yes, it should have. But I don't think they run the W/D to check for leaks. It wasn't too bad in the grand scheme and we are still loving our Alliance RV and the travel! 😊 Thanks!
My wife and I purchased an Alliance 2 months ago and it spent 6 of 9 weeks at the dealer getting plumbing replaced, roof replaced, trim replaced, leveling system repaired. We got it back and three days later traded for a Jayco. Way we saw it was if it had that many problems and we hadn’t had it for a month then it probably wouldn’t be standing in 10 years.
Sorry about your leak. You commented you should have checked your washer drain line first. From seeing the problem, I think your manufacturer should have checked your drain line...Hope you have better luck. Loving my Outdoors RV
looking at buying a new RV (first one). these quality issues - across the board in the industry - are stunning to me. maddening really. great you got it fixed, but ... really .... shouldv'e never happened.
We have a 310rl Paradigm and will be adding the Spendide Combo unit, so because you shared this, we will be checking the plumbing on ours before we do the first load. Thanks! Always enjoy watching you two👍💪
Good to see the smile stay on your faces. Here is what I don't get. Back in the day I helped inspect cars that were going to the Auto Show. They had to be PERFECT and we made sure they were. Now the same thing happened to Changing Lanes. You pick up a new unit and the manufacture KNOWS you are a big time TH-camr. How in the heck can't they at least make yours or Changing Lanes perfect. If I owned the company first I would make sure everything was perfect and checked multiple times. I would never allow a new RV of my company to go out with issues to big TH-camrs. That would start and emphasis the culture. It might start with yours but I would put a huge priority on the majority of my units being trouble free from the factory. I know there is a lot of human building but I don't see that as an excuse. As the Owner I would give every new customer my phone number and ask them to report to me any issues. Sorry to be such a sour puss but I just don't see any good excuses for someone spending good money on a new unit and having to fix stuff shortly after the delivery. Can things happen? Sure but they better be few and far between. Accountability starts at the top. I also am old enough to remember when cars were delivered to the dealership and were a mess. Big 3 didn't care. Then Honda and others starting showing up with superior quality control and shock the public starting buying them. It took the Big 3 some time to learn the lesson but finally they did. Rant over.
Wow! And you’ve partnered with Alliance?! Imagine the issues with which the rest of us who are not partnering with then have to deal. Customer service is awesome, but … should we really have to deal with the issues we do?!?! I say, NO!! When it comes to going to rallies and having service done, the rest of us have to pay hundreds of dollars just to attend, not counting the actual camping fees.
If you take anything for free from any of these companies you have a huge conflict of interest as far as I am concerned. I have to use my hard earned money to pay for any of these products. How can i trust your opinion on products?
There was no residue of pipe cement on that connection, I hoped they pulled on it before properly securing it to see if any other fittings were missed. Keep an eye on entire line, specially after travel days to make sure another doesn't come loose. Glad to see Alliance fixed you up right away! Have been looking at an Alliance camper myself after a tornado took my 6 month old XLR camper. I learned from it to look for campers with quality builds.
OMG, guys! Aaron... don't know how you managed to seem SO CALM and SO COLLECTED while water was waterfalling out the bottom of your brand new RV! And you even FILMED IT! So glad it turned out to be an easy fix, but WOW!
My years of YT training, filming, and capturing the world, paid off! 🤣 But, seriously I was in shock at first and if I didnt have the camera in my hand already I probably wouldn't have filmed it. All fixed up now and Chris says she'll NEVER go back to the laundromat's! Appreciate our chat about W/D'ers earlier this Spring! Hope all is well and we see you have some BIG news coming!
That fitting you are pointing too,is called a clean out tee 1 1/2 the pipe is called ABS , That tee should never be facing down, no real advantage for it to be there.
Oh no, so sorry that you guys had to go through this it’s was a good ideal that you didn’t leave. Now this got me to thinking we are going to use our washer and dryer combo tomorrow for the first time since we had our new 5th wheel. I guess I have to watch our also, glad you guys were taking care of.
Number 1. Put a drain pan under the washer. In the event something internal breaks water drains outside no inside. Also get yourself some 1/2 in crimps and a crimp tool. Also some short pieces of pex. I read that since rv sales were soaring during Covid you shouldn’t buy one built during Covid. Tires regardless of mileage change every few years. Age kills them not mileage.
Oh my gosh, the first time I ran our washer I basically didn't leave it and watched it the whole time! LOL! Even when we lived in a sticks & bricks, I would never leave the dryer run if we were leaving the house. I would the washer but never the dryer. We had 4 internal water leaks when we first started out full time. It sucked! Fittings weren't tight and the shimmied loose each time we traveled down the road.
I don’t know why these manufacturers don’t run water through all the lines and drains and fill the tanks as part of the quality control inspection. They can blow the lines out with air before sending them to the dealer. I had a brand new RV that had a leak in the fresh tank that could have easily been caught if they had tested the tank by filling it.
Nice to see that Alliance took care of the issue for you. Like you had mentioned there's always going to be issues, the key is to have a company that stands behind the product. All that said though, dude... glue the dang fittings. That looked like they dry fit it and then walked away.
Yes maybe the took care of their problems at the factory but she said that their were around three hundred other RV their also that's can't speak well for alliance I certainly wouldn't own one not even if they tried to give it to me the industry has two up their game big time that's all I can say about that
Wow, what a blessing that you caught that and were able to get it fixed right away! My first RV was a used Class C back in 2012. This was before RVing was quite so popular...plus.....I had never owned or been in an RV before! The RV was an '09 Coachman with a bunk over the cab. A year later we discovered the front window in the bunk over the cab had been leaking for a long time. Maybe since we bought it, maybe a few years before, we'll never know! Since the padding was covered in plastic, nothing ever seemed wet. What a terrible mess and much rotten wood!! My daughter and I learned a ton of lessons during the five years we lived in that RV including how to deal with leaks, window repair, roof repair, plumbing repair, how to unclog a sewer line and many, many other things! Ha! It was definitely a learning experience! We've since bought a new travel trailer, but what i discovered is that you were absolutely right in saying that whether new or used, there will most likely always be something to deal with in an RV. Thanks for sharing! :)
We don't have an Alliance but we do have a fifth wheel - and after about 3 years of hard use, our front compartment was pitted with tar, which left little pock marks. We also had mud flaps on the truck but it doesn't get everything - anyway, we put a protective clear film - over it and the compartment door - it's the same stuff they use for a clear bra on the front of the truck - I would think about doing it to keep it looking new.
The thing that I'm screws is called a clean out it's also used winterize the drain to make sure no water is standing in the horizontal section of the pipe
Guys, it's hard to fathom a unit that didn't have problems but the good thing is they took care of the problem. You were lucky to be going to the rally because most times it's a bitch getting into a dealership and getting the stuff fixed. It would be nice if just once the quality control was just a smidge tighter at the plant and not putting pressure on the dealers and the consumer to find the bugs. I really like your new home you guys did well. Have fun and enjoy.
I had a similar problem the first time I took my trailer out for a weekend. With water draining from the sink unto the floor, I ended up doing a temporary repair to the kitchen sink drainage system to get us through the long weekend and immediately delivered my trailer back to the dealership after informing them of the problem and our schedule for the summer. They gave us the "no appt.s available for three weeks" story but I told them I was camping nearby and would be bringing the trailer in on my way back from camping and expected them to store and repair the trailer under warranty. I dropped the trailer off and a week later was informed that it had been repaired and I could pick it up which I did. Seven years later there have been no further water problems with the trailer and the few other problems that have occurred have been covered under our long term warranty. When buying a new trailer always be prepared for the warranty issues as I've yet to hear of even the most expensive trailers and RVs being trouble free from the factory.
So much for quality control, I have owned a lot of RV's over the years and the old ( Executive coach) was by far the best. The newer campers and trailers were the worst for problems like you experienced. no attention to detail or testing under real use. Once you get the gremlins out you should be OK. I would suggest you buy a bag of the correct PEX pipe clamps and the crimp tool for when they leak. Happy travels.
Great to see/have you back guys! Happy you were able to resolve the problem without damage to the new RV! Good on Alliance for their awesome team support!
We are picking up our Alliance 390MP next week. It will be in our driveway for about a month before we hit the road full time. Thanks to this video, I'll be going in the basement and checking everything I can.
I'm thinking that this came up because of the "rolling earthquake" phenomenon. Thinking about it, it's amazing that RVs tolerate road forces as well as they do. And I'd certainly bet those pipes were connected by when it left the factory. But with an RV, the term "shakedown trip" is evidently quite literal! And it could be almost the only way to discover what could be jarred loose when the RV is in motion. So, yes, just as you said, we can all expect that a first trip in a new RV could expose some weaknesses; it's just the way it is. So thank you for showing us what real life can be like. And enjoy your new on-board, personal mini laundromat!
The pvc fitting wasn’t glued right at the factory. If it were, the pvc would break before the glue joint fails. It literally melts the “plastic” together.
We Boondock all winter long and one of the first things we did was give away our Splendid Combo. Takes too much water, takes too much electric and takes too long to do a load of wash. My wife hated it. Hour and a half at a laundry mat and she had two weeks of laundry done. Good luck with yours.
Glad you were able to sort out the plumbing issue. It is a reality as you say, that virtually every RV has a few initial issues. We have had 4 trailers now, and ironically the only one that never had a single issue was the least expensive one we ever had. We had a 2016 Hideout 178LHS, which we paid less than $11K for new. We used it for 80 nights and towed it just under 9,000 miles and not a single thing ever went wrong. It was simple and basic and it worked. Have had several trailers since that have all had some issues, from needing a failed fridge changed, to an incorrectly wired hot water heater that only heated when it wanted to. Also a shower drain pipe that was basically set up as a load support until it failed and filled the underbelly with shower water etc. etc. Everything does get sorted out, but I have to give that 2016 Hideout credit..... I am sure you will/have get everything sorted, and Alliance seems to be a really good product...best of luck with it, and as always, safe travels.
First off yellow abs glue allows one to see it's glued. Second never use primer. Third the leaking clean out should be rotated so it doesn't dump the water it holds when opened.
“I love leaks” never said any man!!! 😉 I’m sorry for your leak. 😢 I owned a brand new motorhome with a washer and dryer, I would never leave the RV with the machines running, always watching for leaks and problems. Good luck to you both.
I also have a Splendide combo washer/dryer and love it. I tried using a laundromat for the first year and hated it. The machine was definitely worth it!
If that unit is not vented the clothes will never dry like your house dryer. They will always be damp. The dryer has to be vent to get completely dry clothes.
Yes! Check everything!!! Our 1st trip out, yes 1st, our awning motor arm broke in half and the awning came crashing down, on the same trip we were getting a solar system installed and while we were in the basement wiring things up we heard what sounded like someone was washing their car and found it was us and both connections at the hot water tank came loose and was spraying water everywhere again while we were in there with wires everywhere and a lot of it was live. I also found why we weren't getting any rear heat...they pinched off the ducts right at the furnace with how they ran the pex tubing so I had to run all new pex and now it's ran neatly but theres been so many things we've uncovered that have been improved or repaired and in the 2 seasons we've owned it I think the bugs are worked out.
We have an Avenue 32RLS and we love it, but we’ve had a few problem that we’re fixed by here dealer after our first summer of camping. I wish Alliance would have a 2-3 yrs warranty like Jayco (our first camper cost less than half of our alliance and had twice the warranty timeframe), but it is what it is. Like others have said, while Alliance has great service, some of these issues like yours should never have happened. Thanks for sharing with us.
Our Montana did the EXACT same thing on our 1st wash. They didn't glue the drain pipe at an elbow. I used cleaner, sand paper and glue. Fixed myself too. Good job
We also have a 295MK that we got at about the same time you two did. A few minor issues here and there, but Alliance has been great at sending us parts, and authorizing a mobile RV Tech. Since we also full-time, dropping it off at a dealership is not really a possibility. As far as access to the plumbing, I found that also unscrewing the next piece of wood inboard from that removable panel helped. I was able to crawl quite far in to the belly that way. In fact, almost all the was to the converter/fuse box. Not fun, but doable. And as you pointed out, a great idea to look behind the nautilus after some time on the road. Most everything is accessible, and easy to work on, despite how it might appear.
For the kind of money people are spending on a rig like that all u should have two worry about for the first 5 years or more is having a tire blowing out and a tire can blow at anytime they need two be regulated by some body that's for sure
I'm so glad your video pooped up while I was watching video's on TH-cam. My daughter and son n law are going to buy one very soon. You video will give them some tips to make sure that everything is working properly. Thank you and God Bless You!
I used to work for Sears and when they delivered a washer the drain hose had a U shaped piece the the hose went through kind of like a candy cane to shape the hose and also limit how far down the pipe the hose would go. If the hose went too far it could start to siphon water out of the washer. They would also tie rap the hose to something to keep it in the pipe. They had a lot of water damage clamps because the newer washers pumped out so fast it could lift the hose out of the pipe. Once the hose falls to the floor the water keeps running out because it’s draining as fast as it try’s to fill. So the water never stops until you turn the washer off. What a mess!!!
We’ve had a Splendide in our motorhome for 3 years. I do a load every couple days. If I use the dryer I only do 20 minutes. In our older model it almost bakes the clothes. Mostly I use zero dry and sun dry the clothes. It’s extremely convenient! Sorry for your leaks! Been through many of them over the years
I love how the two of you face challenges together, taking them in stride and with a little sense of humor. Really good work, Chris and Aaron. Thanks for sharing!
We had an all in one machine when we moved into our log home because of the lack of mechanicals and not wanting to poke holes in our house. Unfortunately it had a short life. Started making a noise that 3 repairs couldn't fix and it was determined a lemon. Love the concept, but we just have a washer and dry outside or clothes rack inside. So sorry you had to go through take. Things like this make me think future problems may have stemmed from the first problem. Glad they fixed youz up.😢🧺💧
go to Walmart or some place and get some Damprid . that will dry it up and help from getting mold hopefully. Good luck with your new camper, and have fun.
Yep if you own an RV, I don't care who built it or what you paid your guaranteed you are going to have a few issues, brand new or used, all you can do is rise above it and get it 💪💪🤑 fixed❤❤❤
Consider checking your junction box where your power cord connects to your fifth wheel. Many manufacturers use wire nuts and they eventually arc and burn not only the wire but the wire nut itself. It also causes a shock hazard. We have a Winnebago Navion This happened to us. This is not an isolated case. Volta connected using wire nuts on a brand new fifth wheel. It's shocking.
Dry fit brings back old memories back in 1970 I was finishing up my plumbing dry fitting for my dark room just as I was done dry fitting the wife came out sad it's time I said time for what she said we need to go now and she points at her tummy which was full of our son . so of to the hospital we went . to cut the story short I did not return to the darkroom project for months . I did not glue any joints so later after using the finished dark room after a while I smelled mold . It had been slowly dripping the minute I saw it I new I screwed up big time the real problem was I come from a family of plumbers . Later I told my dad he just laughed and chuckled . Happy Trails you 2 .
Bummer on the laundry leak, but the good news, you have a laundry! You might want to use a laundromat for washing the bulky bed covers. That washer doesn't look that large. Glad you got it fixed quickly. Everything I have read and watched said expect issues with a new RV. We bought our trailer in early 2022, and on the second trip the 12V DC fridge died. My son and I ended up removing the fridge and troubleshooting the problem. Found a bad connection to the compressor. Luckily we were able to fix it and reinstall everything, and the trip was saved. It seemed like it took all summer to work through the little issues, it was very Frustrating. I hope you are done with the issues on your new home.
OMG, is that not one, but two basenji's? We had a red one when we were kids...55 years ago, awesome dogs. Oh, sorry about the flood, new rv's always have some sort of problems. Safe travels.
Oh, yeah, bought new 5th wheel in June of 2021, 😊 9:33 only been used 4 times on the the road, as of today 2 years old, it’s been in the shop for repairs off and on for 2 YEARS!😢 NEVER AGAIN WILL I AGREE TO ANOTHER RV!
We paid for an independent inspector to check the brand new unit, then had the dealer fix problems before we signed the bill of sale and drove off with our brand new motorhome. It’s been only four weeks but no issues except a neighbor’s weedwacker sent a string flying to a window and broke it into little pieces. Now searching for local repair service. We’re only three days into the search after making numerous calls. Our dealer is a four hour drive from our home and prefer to avoid long drive. We’ve ordered a replacement window from the manufacturer of the motorhome. Hopefully by the time we receive it we will have found someone to install. Issues with homes on wheels are unavoidable even when we do everything we can to keep anything from happening. Wishing you safe and hassle free travels.
Informative presentation & you have saved other RVers from water leaking by learning from your mishap. Good thing in the under-storage compartment the first box was a plastic bin so if did get wet whatever was inside was not water damaged. Wise to have plastic instead of cardboard. Could you have a water alarm in that area (& by the machine) so you would hear if there was any water leaking from any of those pipes? The battery operated ones are reasonable price under $20.
Thanks for everything! You guys have really helped me decide on the right rig for me. Irene was my first dream and I haven’t changed my mind. I’m so close. Love you guys❣️
I know it's impossible for all RV owners to be "house handy" - but BOY it sure helps to have some basic plumbing and electrical skills - especially when boon-docking where professional help is unavailable. As I understand it, RVs are basically hand build and very fast - so I'd expect problems the majority of the time. Also not sure about factory system testing programs. p.s. Don't forget to take a toolbox!
I’ve had a similar situation with my shower drain in my 2021 milestone. After a trip it had wiggled loose. It was just one of the compression fittings on the p trap. Since I have an alarm system on it I am contemplating putting a ring flood sensor in that area for some peace of mind.
We had an issue with our Winnebago’s freshwater intake hose, we were filling it, and it kept pushing back out even though the tank wasn’t full. It turned out there was a hose that was not properly attached and when Brian pushed a little bit, the whole thing blew apart and there was water everywhere. It was an easy fix and thank goodness. He knows what he’s doing but it is frustrating with a brand new RV. Here’s wishing for no more problems!
Looks like they didn't glue the fitting. Yikes. P.S. Our RV is a 2003 Newmar Dutch Star 39' diesel pusher. We have a Splendide washer/dryer combo. We put the washer in a tray in case the hoses or machine leaks with a drain hose from the tray to the outside(wouldn't have stoped your problem) and I installed several water alarms behind the washer and in the bay below it. We bought the RV in 2016 from Lazy Days in Tampa, Fl from the original owners via their trade on a new Rv, with 45k miles. We always turn off the park/city water connection at the pedestal any time we are leaving for more than 5 minutes. We typically put some water in the fresh tank and use the rv water pump and turn off the pedestal water. At night and if we leave during the day we cut off the water pump. I sleep better LOL. If your toliet valve fails the toliet WILL overflow. There is no trap to drain the water like in a regular house toilet. People have come back to find water throughout their RV. DOUBLE Yikes. Safe travels.
I wouldn't be so forgiving of Alliance. You decided to partner with them. I've been in my new rv for 1½ years now and we haven't had any problems. I know things happen, but that could've done a lot of damage. Sloppy workmanship isn't acceptable. I'm glad things are better. Love your doggies. I lost my Basenji a while ago. She was the best, funny dog that I ever had. Her howling eventually turned to a bark.
Agreed. I think the only way to see improvement in RV quality is for consumers to stop saying, “well that’s just how it is”. This is a well over $100k product, and somebody’s job was to glue ABS drain pipe together and they just couldn’t be bothered to see it through. And then the QC process failed to catch it because either that process is flawed, or that individual didn’t care enough either. That’s crazy. Was the guy who was on the line that day written up? I hope so. I am glad this was shown on TH-cam, that’s the one good thing. I hope they are embarrassed by it, because they should be. This doesn’t make them a bad manufacturer, but it does show that even the brands we hold up as being better than most, are still making too many mistakes.
I ordered my last 3 new 5th wheels and I wouldn’t even let them put in the plumbing for a washing machine and would never get a second rear bathroom. The less thing you have to leak the better. I seriously hope you get everything taken care of ok.
So stressful but being able to do laundry in your rig is definitely worth it! Btw I was really trying to pay attention while you were talking but June Bug’s tactical assault on Louie was too adorable!! 😍
So sorry that happened but at least you caught it quickly. Do you think the washer/dryer combo was worth it? Didn’t look like it is vented… The pups are fun in the background. Safe travels.
That was a dry fit pipe. I am sure a laborer cut the pipe dry fitted it to make sure that it was the right length then forgot to glue it. In the PDI process this could easily be missed as the pipe has no pressure to it at all. Then when they took ownership and started hauling the trailer the pipe eventually viberated off and hence the leak.
Chris & Aaron, I am so sorry to see you had a problem like that. Glad Aaron caught it so quickly.Anything man built is subject to failure but I know it was still a disappointment to you. Glad to see that Alliance stepped right up like they did! I am hoping someday that they will build a 22-24ft Delta. That would be a dream come true for me. Looking forward to your new solar/Li set-up....I know it will be a awesome one. June Bug and Louie are just the best little dogs.....love them! Looking forward to a segment again where they are having a sibling banter......that was hilarious! Safe travels, love you both!
@@gsolo328 So have I, they were Law Enforcement Officers like myself. The flag is not defaced, the Thin Blue Line emblem was established to symbolize Law Enforcement's dedication to the unbreakable component of Law Enforcement standing as a safety barrier between the law-abiding citizens of America and the criminally inclined. I did it for seventeen years before retirement (disabled) My Son is a Master Sergeant for the Highway Patrol, our Daughter In Law is a Assistant State's Prosecuting Attorney. My oldest Son retired as a Navy Nuke Engineer on Fast Attack Subs. My 5X Great GranDad and his Brother were both American Revolutionary War Soldiers. I had a Uncle who was a Medic at Guadalcanal, another who was a tail gunner in Jimmy Doolittle's Group, another who's Flying Fortress was shot down over Germany and spent the duration of the war in a German POW Camp. I think you would have trouble finding a more Patriotic family.
very interested to see a review of the washer/dryer combo sometime soon. we moved into a fifth wheel last week (parked at an RV park) an we'll live in this full time while we take our smaller trailer on weekend adventures. i'd like to upgrade from a washer and dryer to a combo for space.
I always tell people with new trailers to go thru all the plumbing connections that you can see and tighten them. I’ve seen so many lose connections on new rigs waiting to flood the rig after one rough road. Especially the water pump connections. They are always loose and people wonder why they have low or no pressure 😂
My leak on a new TT was under the sink. Happened to look under the sink after doing dishes and cleaned up the water before any damage. The drain pipe was never glued together at the factory. Looked identical to your pipe separation.
Unfortunately our Spendide is junk. Does the dreaded knob spin after filling. Taking it out to use the space for something else. Hope you have better luck!
We had the same thing happen the first time we used the washer. Fortunately, we spent our first night right down the street from the Dealer, and they came over first thing in the morning and fixed it. We were a little distracted by the dogs playing on the couch behind you, so we had to rewind a little.
This is why you have a rv inspection done on even a new rv. And you should have stayed at the dealership to play with all of the bell and whistles for a day or to so you know how everything works and if they work.
1st thing I noticed and would have done was shut all power and disconnect batteries. I was getting the willies watching you stick your hand in there with electricity running through the trailer.
I had 2 KEYSTONE rv trailers 1 travel trailer 1 5th wheel 1 forest river 5th wheel the forest river was the biggest p o s from day one water leaks, electric problems, windows leak window fellout, much more took back to factory several times finally dumped trailer
We strongly suggest that you NEVER the washer/dryer running when you are not inside. After 15 years we still turn off the water to the. RV when we go anywhere.
I feel your pain. I once had a class A with a brand new Splendide combo unit like yours, and there was a clog in the drain tube, so whenever the washer went to drain the water it would overflow back into the closet. How do they not test this stuff before delivering to the customer?
One of these days I hope the RV industry learns a lesson in court. It's sickening every make model has problems. It truly takes the fun out of RVing camping for most families these day's. Luckily you can do it your self going forward, but sadly most people can't and shouldn't need fixing. Good Job and Just keep Rolling! Thanks again :)
Have you thought about getting a self stable emergency food source, just incase the fridge went during a trip! They come in a bucket that you could easily store in one of your storage areas. And no I am not paid to sell people emergency food supplies! Lol
Thank you for watching. 😊 We've pretty much had a few issues in all our RV's and truck. In our Outdoors RV travel trailer, the shower door leaked for weeks, the table was misassembled, the finish was flaking off the drawers fronts and almost all of the drawers wouldn't open/close without extreme force! We also had issues with our "top of the line" Airstream and Mercedes. City water inlet leak, loose plumbing connections, and very expensive emissions issues with the MB engine. Also had a warranty saftey issue recall with our Ford that nagged for almost a year before finally getting it fixed. Anything manmade will need fixing at some point so even with all the issues on every one of our RV's we're still happy to be alive, healthy, and living our dream. 😊 Life's good.
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RV owners are the only people i know who spend a lot of money on a product while accepting much less. I never owned one that didnt take at least 2 years to get poor workmanship corrected. The industry definitely needs to be regulated. I wish you the best. For me..... I returned to backpacking and couldn't be happier.
Regulation won't help anything. Informed end users/customers with a brain are the answer.
Agreed, I just use my van or motorcycle with my backpacking gear now, so much easier and more fun. If I din't have RV access at my house I wouldn't even own one, I only use it twice a year at the most now.
its is not difficult to glue up PVC connections so that they do not leak. This simply is poor workmanship and QC at the factory. That drain pipe was not even glued at all. It appeared to be dry connected. The drain plug and pipe leaks demonstrate a team of amatures assembeled the RV. If you as the new owner are taking the time to run water down the drain to check for leaks, I would have thought the manufacturer in their QC program could have done the same. Apparently they do not have a QC program, otherwise they would have noticed those leaks. The answer is to avoid that manufacturer. I completely disagree that this should be a normal expectation to work out new ownership problems.
@@borabora4480 They downsized! The QC department was eliminated to save money. Fatter bonuses for executive row.
Seems like pitching a tent is a way to go-no overhead , no repairs, cheap, of course there is that wild animals danger and proper food storage. Most campgrounds have toilets, showers. Ive been thinking about this instead RV. Can you point me to great tent camping resources, id appreciate it. Thanks!
Paradigm needs to up their PDI process. This wasn't a parts failure, it was a labor failure. I don't believe that joint was ever glued. Good learning opportunity for them.
Yeah, it looks like they dry fitted it and forgot to come back and actually glue it. I think all these manufacturers need to run water through all the lines and drains as part of their inspection process.
Agreed!😮
Definitely!
Exactly, piss poor quality control . This is exactly why RV dealers & manufacturers get horseshit reputations …………uncalled for . 🤛👍😡
Alliance absolutley needs to up their PDI process...we were considering Alliance and seeing all the things. large and small, wrong with new units scared me off...I was in a FB group twice over three years, coming back a few months ago but saw too many of the same complaints including cracked walls...that cult thing is true...there were far too many people that had to take their new or nearly new unit to the factory for repair...if you live far from Indiana that must suck!
I purchased a “NEW” Avenue 36 BRM and have had nothing but problems within 4 months of ownership. Leveling system inoperable, busted trim pieces. Faulty grey/black tank valves. Faulty kitchen plumbing. Awnings don’t shut, keeps blowing the hides. Slide 3 doesn’t shut. Both A/C systems don’t cool below 10 degree from ambient temp. And alliance customer service is a joke. I hate it for ya. Glad you uploaded a video, maybe it will educate people on going a different route for their camper purchase.
OMG, the amount of wiring & tubing below decks at 14:07 into this video was frightening given that this Fifth Wheel shakes, rattles & roles down the road. My wife & I love your channel; because it confirms for us after every episode that we did the correct thing in retirement by not getting an RV. We bought a Jeep to take it on occasional shorter trips and used the money we would have spent on an RV to stay in boutique hotels. We don’t get to travel as much or as far but then again there are no leaks. The Jeep could break, but it’s easy to have it towed to the nearest dealer, and take a rent a car home. And again, with the money we saved not buying an RV just pay to have a Car Transport ship the Jeep back. At our age we’re tired of adventure we just want an occasional cool vacation. LOL!
So much for Alliance being so much better then everyone else. Kind of how Grand Design started out. We used to own a GD, bought brand new, and we had a good share of problems. Hopefully you don't have water in the belly. That's a nightmare. Oh, and who thought putting the water heater on top of the furnace......Same as my Momentum, when the water heater leaks, there goes the furnace, too.
We bought a 2019 new reflection 303 rls grand design and we haven't had one single problem with it yet (knock on wood).
Industry problem, is even bad design is copied.
Alliance has never claimed to be perfect. They simply go above and beyond with customer service to ensure a great outcome and it is their customer service that elevates them above the rest. Owners have the cell numbers of the owners and the VPs so if there is any major issue or concern, it can be addressed quickly. I've posted a question on the Facebook group on Independence Day weekend (they've already announced they will be away for a few days with their families) and within 20 minutes I received a call from the VP of Customer Experience to answer my questions. THAT'S what makes Alliance better than everyone else. Not perfect but better.
@@roger80465 Same philosophy GD had. Problem is rushing production.
All these people saying 'there's always going to be issues' is exactly why the RV manufacturers get away with building crap products.
I have 3 friends that all went with Alliance. All 3 had multiple QC problems. Consistent hacked work. IE Wiring, water connections, fit and finish. 2 have trade already on with a Jayco and one with a Montana. Both have not had any problems. One of them stayed with it, and nicked name it fix it Fred. But they still love it. I agree, though they all said that they had good customer service. But would rather have less problems.
Something like this should have been discovered during prepping and delivery. We’ve all had those kind of experiences, but it really can take the initial joy away. Don’t let it get you down and keep your joy!!
Yes, it should have. But I don't think they run the W/D to check for leaks. It wasn't too bad in the grand scheme and we are still loving our Alliance RV and the travel! 😊 Thanks!
@@IreneIronTravels Horrible quality. Manufacturer and dealer missed it. Even a simple visual inspection would have seen it
YA Never trust these RV dealers ,they did a Poor job on delivery ,I would never go to them
They just don't care about quality at all just build them sale them and your on your own that's it on two the next sucker see yah
My wife and I purchased an Alliance 2 months ago and it spent 6 of 9 weeks at the dealer getting plumbing replaced, roof replaced, trim replaced, leveling system repaired. We got it back and three days later traded for a Jayco. Way we saw it was if it had that many problems and we hadn’t had it for a month then it probably wouldn’t be standing in 10 years.
Sorry about your leak. You commented you should have checked your washer drain line first. From seeing the problem, I think your manufacturer should have checked your drain line...Hope you have better luck.
Loving my Outdoors RV
looking at buying a new RV (first one). these quality issues - across the board in the industry - are stunning to me. maddening really. great you got it fixed, but ... really .... shouldv'e never happened.
We have a 310rl Paradigm and will be adding the Spendide Combo unit, so because you shared this, we will be checking the plumbing on ours before we do the first load. Thanks! Always enjoy watching you two👍💪
Very cool, you'll love the unit! Yes, check that plumbing! 🤣
Good to see the smile stay on your faces. Here is what I don't get. Back in the day I helped inspect cars that were going to the Auto Show. They had to be PERFECT and we made sure they were. Now the same thing happened to Changing Lanes. You pick up a new unit and the manufacture KNOWS you are a big time TH-camr. How in the heck can't they at least make yours or Changing Lanes perfect. If I owned the company first I would make sure everything was perfect and checked multiple times. I would never allow a new RV of my company to go out with issues to big TH-camrs. That would start and emphasis the culture. It might start with yours but I would put a huge priority on the majority of my units being trouble free from the factory. I know there is a lot of human building but I don't see that as an excuse. As the Owner I would give every new customer my phone number and ask them to report to me any issues. Sorry to be such a sour puss but I just don't see any good excuses for someone spending good money on a new unit and having to fix stuff shortly after the delivery. Can things happen? Sure but they better be few and far between. Accountability starts at the top. I also am old enough to remember when cars were delivered to the dealership and were a mess. Big 3 didn't care. Then Honda and others starting showing up with superior quality control and shock the public starting buying them. It took the Big 3 some time to learn the lesson but finally they did. Rant over.
Wow! And you’ve partnered with Alliance?! Imagine the issues with which the rest of us who are not partnering with then have to deal. Customer service is awesome, but … should we really have to deal with the issues we do?!?! I say, NO!! When it comes to going to rallies and having service done, the rest of us have to pay hundreds of dollars just to attend, not counting the actual camping fees.
YOu are so right!
If you take anything for free from any of these companies you have a huge conflict of interest as far as I am concerned. I have to use my hard earned money to pay for any of these products. How can i trust your opinion on products?
There was no residue of pipe cement on that connection, I hoped they pulled on it before properly securing it to see if any other fittings were missed. Keep an eye on entire line, specially after travel days to make sure another doesn't come loose. Glad to see Alliance fixed you up right away! Have been looking at an Alliance camper myself after a tornado took my 6 month old XLR camper. I learned from it to look for campers with quality builds.
Looking for campers with quality builds? LOL ;-)
@@jamesvelvet3612 Better off finding the size frame I want, burn old camper off and build one myself!! 😂
Sorry you had to go thru that, I empathize with your pain.. you handled it very well.
Keep Pushing Forward.
OMG, guys! Aaron... don't know how you managed to seem SO CALM and SO COLLECTED while water was waterfalling out the bottom of your brand new RV! And you even FILMED IT! So glad it turned out to be an easy fix, but WOW!
My years of YT training, filming, and capturing the world, paid off! 🤣 But, seriously I was in shock at first and if I didnt have the camera in my hand already I probably wouldn't have filmed it.
All fixed up now and Chris says she'll NEVER go back to the laundromat's! Appreciate our chat about W/D'ers earlier this Spring! Hope all is well and we see you have some BIG news coming!
That fitting you are pointing too,is called a clean out tee 1 1/2 the pipe is called ABS , That tee should never be facing down, no real advantage for it to be there.
Oh no, so sorry that you guys had to go through this it’s was a good ideal that you didn’t leave. Now this got me to thinking we are going to use our washer and dryer combo tomorrow for the first time since we had our new 5th wheel. I guess I have to watch our also, glad you guys were taking care of.
Number 1. Put a drain pan under the washer. In the event something internal breaks water drains outside no inside. Also get yourself some 1/2 in crimps and a crimp tool. Also some short pieces of pex. I read that since rv sales were soaring during Covid you shouldn’t buy one built during Covid. Tires regardless of mileage change every few years. Age kills them not mileage.
Oh my gosh, the first time I ran our washer I basically didn't leave it and watched it the whole time! LOL! Even when we lived in a sticks & bricks, I would never leave the dryer run if we were leaving the house. I would the washer but never the dryer. We had 4 internal water leaks when we first started out full time. It sucked! Fittings weren't tight and the shimmied loose each time we traveled down the road.
I don’t know why these manufacturers don’t run water through all the lines and drains and fill the tanks as part of the quality control inspection. They can blow the lines out with air before sending them to the dealer. I had a brand new RV that had a leak in the fresh tank that could have easily been caught if they had tested the tank by filling it.
Nice to see that Alliance took care of the issue for you. Like you had mentioned there's always going to be issues, the key is to have a company that stands behind the product. All that said though, dude... glue the dang fittings. That looked like they dry fit it and then walked away.
Yes maybe the took care of their problems at the factory but she said that their were around three hundred other RV their also that's can't speak well for alliance I certainly wouldn't own one not even if they tried to give it to me the industry has two up their game big time that's all I can say about that
Wow, what a blessing that you caught that and were able to get it fixed right away! My first RV was a used Class C back in 2012. This was before RVing was quite so popular...plus.....I had never owned or been in an RV before! The RV was an '09 Coachman with a bunk over the cab. A year later we discovered the front window in the bunk over the cab had been leaking for a long time. Maybe since we bought it, maybe a few years before, we'll never know! Since the padding was covered in plastic, nothing ever seemed wet. What a terrible mess and much rotten wood!! My daughter and I learned a ton of lessons during the five years we lived in that RV including how to deal with leaks, window repair, roof repair, plumbing repair, how to unclog a sewer line and many, many other things! Ha! It was definitely a learning experience!
We've since bought a new travel trailer, but what i discovered is that you were absolutely right in saying that whether new or used, there will most likely always be something to deal with in an RV.
Thanks for sharing! :)
We don't have an Alliance but we do have a fifth wheel - and after about 3 years of hard use, our front compartment was pitted with tar, which left little pock marks. We also had mud flaps on the truck but it doesn't get everything - anyway, we put a protective clear film - over it and the compartment door - it's the same stuff they use for a clear bra on the front of the truck - I would think about doing it to keep it looking new.
The thing that I'm screws is called a clean out it's also used winterize the drain to make sure no water is standing in the horizontal section of the pipe
Guys, it's hard to fathom a unit that didn't have problems but the good thing is they took care of the problem. You were lucky to be going to the rally because most times it's a bitch getting into a dealership and getting the stuff fixed. It would be nice if just once the quality control was just a smidge tighter at the plant and not putting pressure on the dealers and the consumer to find the bugs. I really like your new home you guys did well. Have fun and enjoy.
I had a similar problem the first time I took my trailer out for a weekend. With water draining from the sink unto the floor, I ended up doing a temporary repair to the kitchen sink drainage system to get us through the long weekend and immediately delivered my trailer back to the dealership after informing them of the problem and our schedule for the summer. They gave us the "no appt.s available for three weeks" story but I told them I was camping nearby and would be bringing the trailer in on my way back from camping and expected them to store and repair the trailer under warranty. I dropped the trailer off and a week later was informed that it had been repaired and I could pick it up which I did. Seven years later there have been no further water problems with the trailer and the few other problems that have occurred have been covered under our long term warranty. When buying a new trailer always be prepared for the warranty issues as I've yet to hear of even the most expensive trailers and RVs being trouble free from the factory.
So much for quality control, I have owned a lot of RV's over the years and the old ( Executive coach) was by far the best. The newer campers and trailers were the worst for problems like you experienced. no attention to detail or testing under real use. Once you get the gremlins out you should be OK. I would suggest you buy a bag of the correct PEX pipe clamps and the crimp tool for when they leak. Happy travels.
Great to see/have you back guys! Happy you were able to resolve the problem without damage to the new RV! Good on Alliance for their awesome team support!
YOu must work for Alliance.
We are picking up our Alliance 390MP next week. It will be in our driveway for about a month before we hit the road full time. Thanks to this video, I'll be going in the basement and checking everything I can.
I'm thinking that this came up because of the "rolling earthquake" phenomenon. Thinking about it, it's amazing that RVs tolerate road forces as well as they do. And I'd certainly bet those pipes were connected by when it left the factory. But with an RV, the term "shakedown trip" is evidently quite literal! And it could be almost the only way to discover what could be jarred loose when the RV is in motion. So, yes, just as you said, we can all expect that a first trip in a new RV could expose some weaknesses; it's just the way it is. So thank you for showing us what real life can be like. And enjoy your new on-board, personal mini laundromat!
The pvc fitting wasn’t glued right at the factory. If it were, the pvc would break before the glue joint fails. It literally melts the “plastic” together.
We Boondock all winter long and one of the first things we did was give away our Splendid Combo. Takes too much water, takes too much electric and takes too long to do a load of wash. My wife hated it. Hour and a half at a laundry mat and she had two weeks of laundry done. Good luck with yours.
Yes, I am happy you are telling us how the one in all washer/dryer works! Well, I I am thinking, I want each one to be independent in my full time RV?
Glad you were able to sort out the plumbing issue. It is a reality as you say, that virtually every RV has a few initial issues. We have had 4 trailers now, and ironically the only one that never had a single issue was the least expensive one we ever had. We had a 2016 Hideout 178LHS, which we paid less than $11K for new. We used it for 80 nights and towed it just under 9,000 miles and not a single thing ever went wrong. It was simple and basic and it worked. Have had several trailers since that have all had some issues, from needing a failed fridge changed, to an incorrectly wired hot water heater that only heated when it wanted to. Also a shower drain pipe that was basically set up as a load support until it failed and filled the underbelly with shower water etc. etc. Everything does get sorted out, but I have to give that 2016 Hideout credit..... I am sure you will/have get everything sorted, and Alliance seems to be a really good product...best of luck with it, and as always, safe travels.
First off yellow abs glue allows one to see it's glued. Second never use primer. Third the leaking clean out should be rotated so it doesn't dump the water it holds when opened.
“I love leaks” never said any man!!! 😉
I’m sorry for your leak. 😢
I owned a brand new motorhome with a washer and dryer, I would never leave the RV with the machines running, always watching for leaks and problems.
Good luck to you both.
I also have a Splendide combo washer/dryer and love it. I tried using a laundromat for the first year and hated it. The machine was definitely worth it!
If that unit is not vented the clothes will never dry like your house dryer. They will always be damp. The dryer has to be vent to get completely dry clothes.
be sure to check your vent tube for lent clogs as its moist and sticks to the vent hose speaking from experience
Love the Basenji’s. We had a red one and a black one too. They are gone now and miss them so much 🥲
Yes! Check everything!!! Our 1st trip out, yes 1st, our awning motor arm broke in half and the awning came crashing down, on the same trip we were getting a solar system installed and while we were in the basement wiring things up we heard what sounded like someone was washing their car and found it was us and both connections at the hot water tank came loose and was spraying water everywhere again while we were in there with wires everywhere and a lot of it was live. I also found why we weren't getting any rear heat...they pinched off the ducts right at the furnace with how they ran the pex tubing so I had to run all new pex and now it's ran neatly but theres been so many things we've uncovered that have been improved or repaired and in the 2 seasons we've owned it I think the bugs are worked out.
We have an Avenue 32RLS and we love it, but we’ve had a few problem that we’re fixed by here dealer after our first summer of camping. I wish Alliance would have a 2-3 yrs warranty like Jayco (our first camper cost less than half of our alliance and had twice the warranty timeframe), but it is what it is. Like others have said, while Alliance has great service, some of these issues like yours should never have happened. Thanks for sharing with us.
Our Montana did the EXACT same thing on our 1st wash. They didn't glue the drain pipe at an elbow. I used cleaner, sand paper and glue. Fixed myself too. Good job
We also have a 295MK that we got at about the same time you two did. A few minor issues here and there, but Alliance has been great at sending us parts, and authorizing a mobile RV Tech. Since we also full-time, dropping it off at a dealership is not really a possibility. As far as access to the plumbing, I found that also unscrewing the next piece of wood inboard from that removable panel helped. I was able to crawl quite far in to the belly that way. In fact, almost all the was to the converter/fuse box. Not fun, but doable. And as you pointed out, a great idea to look behind the nautilus after some time on the road. Most everything is accessible, and easy to work on, despite how it might appear.
For the kind of money people are spending on a rig like that all u should have two worry about for the first 5 years or more is having a tire blowing out and a tire can blow at anytime they need two be regulated by some body that's for sure
I'm so glad your video pooped up while I was watching video's on TH-cam. My daughter and son n law are going to buy one very soon. You video will give them some tips to make sure that everything is working properly. Thank you and God Bless You!
I used to work for Sears and when they delivered a washer the drain hose had a U shaped piece the the hose went through kind of like a candy cane to shape the hose and also limit how far down the pipe the hose would go. If the hose went too far it could start to siphon water out of the washer. They would also tie rap the hose to something to keep it in the pipe. They had a lot of water damage clamps because the newer washers pumped out so fast it could lift the hose out of the pipe. Once the hose falls to the floor the water keeps running out because it’s draining as fast as it try’s to fill. So the water never stops until you turn the washer off. What a mess!!!
We’ve had a Splendide in our motorhome for 3 years. I do a load every couple days. If I use the dryer I only do 20 minutes. In our older model it almost bakes the clothes. Mostly I use zero dry and sun dry the clothes. It’s extremely convenient! Sorry for your leaks! Been through many of them over the years
I love how the two of you face challenges together, taking them in stride and with a little sense of humor. Really good work, Chris and Aaron. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much Amy!
We had an all in one machine when we moved into our log home because of the lack of mechanicals and not wanting to poke holes in our house. Unfortunately it had a short life. Started making a noise that 3 repairs couldn't fix and it was determined a lemon. Love the concept, but we just have a washer and dry outside or clothes rack inside.
So sorry you had to go through take. Things like this make me think future problems may have stemmed from the first problem. Glad they fixed youz up.😢🧺💧
Get used to it. Units built lately have many, many issues, including lots of leaks. Do the required maintenance and record the work you complete.
go to Walmart or some place and get some Damprid . that will dry it up and help from getting mold hopefully. Good luck with your new camper, and have fun.
Good quality control guys at factory. 😮😮 also great wire management..
I’m glad you’re honest and posting it Thanks 2 thumbs up
We bought a 2022 Montana and have had nothing but issues with. In fact it’s going back in the shop for the 4th time.
Yep if you own an RV, I don't care who built it or what you paid your guaranteed you are going to have a few issues, brand new or used, all you can do is rise above it and get it 💪💪🤑 fixed❤❤❤
Consider checking your junction box where your power cord connects to your fifth wheel. Many manufacturers use wire nuts and they eventually arc and burn not only the wire but the wire nut itself. It also causes a shock hazard. We have a Winnebago Navion This happened to us. This is not an isolated case. Volta connected using wire nuts on a brand new fifth wheel. It's shocking.
Dry fit brings back old memories back in 1970 I was finishing up my plumbing dry fitting for my dark room just as I was done dry fitting the wife came out sad it's time I said time for what she said we need to go now and she points at her tummy which was full of our son . so of to the hospital we went . to cut the story short I did not return to the darkroom project for months . I did not glue any joints so later after using the finished dark room after a while I smelled mold . It had been slowly dripping the minute I saw it I new I screwed up big time the real problem was I come from a family of plumbers . Later I told my dad he just laughed and chuckled . Happy Trails you 2 .
Great story! 😊 Mistakes happen!
Bummer on the laundry leak, but the good news, you have a laundry! You might want to use a laundromat for washing the bulky bed covers. That washer doesn't look that large. Glad you got it fixed quickly. Everything I have read and watched said expect issues with a new RV. We bought our trailer in early 2022, and on the second trip the 12V DC fridge died. My son and I ended up removing the fridge and troubleshooting the problem. Found a bad connection to the compressor. Luckily we were able to fix it and reinstall everything, and the trip was saved. It seemed like it took all summer to work through the little issues, it was very Frustrating. I hope you are done with the issues on your new home.
Doesn’t look like they glued that drain pipe together
OMG, is that not one, but two basenji's? We had a red one when we were kids...55 years ago, awesome dogs. Oh, sorry about the flood, new rv's always have some sort of problems. Safe travels.
Oh, yeah, bought new 5th wheel in June of 2021, 😊 9:33 only been used 4 times on the the road, as of today 2 years old, it’s been in the shop for repairs off and on for 2 YEARS!😢 NEVER AGAIN WILL I AGREE TO ANOTHER RV!
We paid for an independent inspector to check the brand new unit, then had the dealer fix problems before we signed the bill of sale and drove off with our brand new motorhome. It’s been only four weeks but no issues except a neighbor’s weedwacker sent a string flying to a window and broke it into little pieces. Now searching for local repair service. We’re only three days into the search after making numerous calls. Our dealer is a four hour drive from our home and prefer to avoid long drive. We’ve ordered a replacement window from the manufacturer of the motorhome. Hopefully by the time we receive it we will have found someone to install. Issues with homes on wheels are unavoidable even when we do everything we can to keep anything from happening. Wishing you safe and hassle free travels.
I had no problems with the teardrop I built.
Beautiful rig, love the space, but with todays quality issues ill continue to stick to my part time travels in my 1984 Holiday rambler TT
Sorry that you have to go through that, but I guess it was at the right time. I'm happy that it was all fixed...see youbin the next one...😊😊❤
Informative presentation & you have saved other RVers from water leaking by learning from your mishap. Good thing in the under-storage compartment the first box was a plastic bin so if did get wet whatever was inside was not water damaged. Wise to have plastic instead of cardboard. Could you have a water alarm in that area (& by the machine) so you would hear if there was any water leaking from any of those pipes? The battery operated ones are reasonable price under $20.
Thanks for everything! You guys have really helped me decide on the right rig for me. Irene was my first dream and I haven’t changed my mind. I’m so close. Love you guys❣️
I know it's impossible for all RV owners to be "house handy" - but BOY it sure helps to have some basic plumbing and electrical skills - especially when boon-docking where professional help is unavailable. As I understand it, RVs are basically hand build and very fast - so I'd expect problems the majority of the time. Also not sure about factory system testing programs. p.s. Don't forget to take a toolbox!
I’ve had a similar situation with my shower drain in my 2021 milestone. After a trip it had wiggled loose. It was just one of the compression fittings on the p trap. Since I have an alarm system on it I am contemplating putting a ring flood sensor in that area for some peace of mind.
We had an issue with our Winnebago’s freshwater intake hose, we were filling it, and it kept pushing back out even though the tank wasn’t full. It turned out there was a hose that was not properly attached and when Brian pushed a little bit, the whole thing blew apart and there was water everywhere. It was an easy fix and thank goodness. He knows what he’s doing but it is frustrating with a brand new RV. Here’s wishing for no more problems!
Oh man that would be frustrating! Hear hear 🥂 to no more water problems! 🤣
Looks like they didn't glue the fitting. Yikes. P.S. Our RV is a 2003 Newmar Dutch Star 39' diesel pusher. We have a Splendide washer/dryer combo. We put the washer in a tray in case the hoses or machine leaks with a drain hose from the tray to the outside(wouldn't have stoped your problem) and I installed several water alarms behind the washer and in the bay below it. We bought the RV in 2016 from Lazy Days in Tampa, Fl from the original owners via their trade on a new Rv, with 45k miles. We always turn off the park/city water connection at the pedestal any time we are leaving for more than 5 minutes. We typically put some water in the fresh tank and use the rv water pump and turn off the pedestal water. At night and if we leave during the day we cut off the water pump. I sleep better LOL. If your toliet valve fails the toliet WILL overflow. There is no trap to drain the water like in a regular house toilet. People have come back to find water throughout their RV. DOUBLE Yikes. Safe travels.
I would check every connection on the back of your fuse/breaker panel as well. Those are almost always loose.
I wouldn't be so forgiving of Alliance. You decided to partner with them. I've been in my new rv for 1½ years now and we haven't had any problems. I know things happen, but that could've done a lot of damage. Sloppy workmanship isn't acceptable. I'm glad things are better. Love your doggies. I lost my Basenji a while ago. She was the best, funny dog that I ever had. Her howling eventually turned to a bark.
I feel like i read that no matter what brand you get you’re going to be doing a ton of repairs. Is that not true?
Agreed. I think the only way to see improvement in RV quality is for consumers to stop saying, “well that’s just how it is”. This is a well over $100k product, and somebody’s job was to glue ABS drain pipe together and they just couldn’t be bothered to see it through. And then the QC process failed to catch it because either that process is flawed, or that individual didn’t care enough either. That’s crazy. Was the guy who was on the line that day written up? I hope so. I am glad this was shown on TH-cam, that’s the one good thing. I hope they are embarrassed by it, because they should be. This doesn’t make them a bad manufacturer, but it does show that even the brands we hold up as being better than most, are still making too many mistakes.
Hey things do happen and I see you got fix . So laundry is done !! As always BS & BK & BC !! Enjoy the rest of the week !!
Yes! Thank you Larry! BS & BK & BC!!
I ordered my last 3 new 5th wheels and I wouldn’t even let them put in the plumbing for a washing machine and would never get a second rear bathroom. The less thing you have to leak the better. I seriously hope you get everything taken care of ok.
So stressful but being able to do laundry in your rig is definitely worth it! Btw I was really trying to pay attention while you were talking but June Bug’s tactical assault on Louie was too adorable!! 😍
Yes! 🤣 She was showing Louie who's boss for sure! 🤣
Het guys, We feel your pain we so dislike utility appliance issues. Love our combo. Sorry for the issues, but you took it like a champ. Safe travels 😊
So sorry that happened but at least you caught it quickly. Do you think the washer/dryer combo was worth it? Didn’t look like it is vented…
The pups are fun in the background. Safe travels.
That was a dry fit pipe. I am sure a laborer cut the pipe dry fitted it to make sure that it was the right length then forgot to glue it. In the PDI process this could easily be missed as the pipe has no pressure to it at all. Then when they took ownership and started hauling the trailer the pipe eventually viberated off and hence the leak.
Sorry that you had the leak. Glad it was able to be repaired!!!
We have a Splendide unit (vented) on our boat…it is EXCELLENT
Chris & Aaron, I am so sorry to see you had a problem like that. Glad Aaron caught it so quickly.Anything man built is subject to failure but I know it was still a disappointment to you. Glad to see that Alliance stepped right up like they did!
I am hoping someday that they will build a 22-24ft Delta. That would be a dream come true for me. Looking forward to your new solar/Li set-up....I know it will be a awesome one.
June Bug and Louie are just the best little dogs.....love them! Looking forward to a segment again where they are having a sibling banter......that was hilarious!
Safe travels, love you both!
I agree...22-24' Delta would be great!!!❤
I've had friends DIE to protect the flag. Shame on your for defacing it.
@@gsolo328 So have I, they were Law Enforcement Officers like myself. The flag is not defaced, the Thin Blue Line emblem was established to symbolize Law Enforcement's dedication to the unbreakable component of Law Enforcement standing as a safety barrier between the law-abiding citizens of America and the criminally inclined. I did it for seventeen years before retirement (disabled) My Son is a Master Sergeant for the Highway Patrol, our Daughter In Law is a Assistant State's Prosecuting Attorney. My oldest Son retired as a Navy Nuke Engineer on Fast Attack Subs.
My 5X Great GranDad and his Brother were both American Revolutionary War Soldiers. I had a Uncle who was a Medic at Guadalcanal, another who was a tail gunner in Jimmy Doolittle's Group, another who's Flying Fortress was shot down over Germany and spent the duration of the war in a German POW Camp. I think you would have trouble finding a more Patriotic family.
very interested to see a review of the washer/dryer combo sometime soon. we moved into a fifth wheel last week (parked at an RV park) an we'll live in this full time while we take our smaller trailer on weekend adventures. i'd like to upgrade from a washer and dryer to a combo for space.
I always tell people with new trailers to go thru all the plumbing connections that you can see and tighten them. I’ve seen so many lose connections on new rigs waiting to flood the rig after one rough road. Especially the water pump connections. They are always loose and people wonder why they have low or no pressure 😂
My leak on a new TT was under the sink. Happened to look under the sink after doing dishes and cleaned up the water before any damage. The drain pipe was never glued together at the factory. Looked identical to your pipe separation.
Unfortunately our Spendide is junk. Does the dreaded knob spin after filling. Taking it out to use the space for something else. Hope you have better luck!
Nice home video 😂🏕
Beautiful Rig 😍
We had the same thing happen the first time we used the washer. Fortunately, we spent our first night right down the street from the Dealer, and they came over first thing in the morning and fixed it.
We were a little distracted by the dogs playing on the couch behind you, so we had to rewind a little.
It's nice alliance took care of that for you, you could've bought some PVC cement, joined that pipe, and been doing laundry a few hours later.
This is why you have a rv inspection done on even a new rv. And you should have stayed at the dealership to play with all of the bell and whistles for a day or to so you know how everything works and if they work.
1st thing I noticed and would have done was shut all power and disconnect batteries. I was getting the willies watching you stick your hand in there with electricity running through the trailer.
I had 2 KEYSTONE rv trailers 1 travel trailer 1 5th wheel 1 forest river 5th wheel the forest river was the biggest p o s from day one water leaks, electric problems, windows leak window fellout, much more took back to factory several times finally dumped trailer
You know I briefly considered trying to wedge one of those washer dryer combo units in my Sprinter? Mine is 2 feet longer than yours was, but still 🤣🤪
Lovely couple and cute dogs...thanks for the informative vid. Happy Holidays~~
We strongly suggest that you NEVER the washer/dryer running when you are not inside. After 15 years we still turn off the water to the. RV when we go anywhere.
The guy that did my solar removed the wall and replaced it with plexiglass sliding doors to access all the solar stuff and all the plumbing.
I feel your pain. I once had a class A with a brand new Splendide combo unit like yours, and there was a clog in the drain tube, so whenever the washer went to drain the water it would overflow back into the closet. How do they not test this stuff before delivering to the customer?
One of these days I hope the RV industry learns a lesson in court. It's sickening every make model has problems. It truly takes the fun out of RVing camping for most families these day's. Luckily you can do it your self going forward, but sadly most people can't and shouldn't need fixing.
Good Job and Just keep Rolling!
Thanks again :)
Have you thought about getting a self stable emergency food source, just incase the fridge went during a trip! They come in a bucket that you could easily store in one of your storage areas. And no I am not paid to sell people emergency food supplies! Lol