@@honkler5974 sentient destroyer of worlds who got trapted in a cave, whithot power, hurted after the war got broken and weaker since he got expeled from the cefalon, it has sense that he is way weaker than before
Ballas’s voice actor is a god. I really felt the ‘But not THEM!’ at 0:49 He didn’t scream excessively like Vay Hek, the line was delivered with such vocal perfection, you could tell he was pissed with those three, short words.
I think what he might mean is that everyone to some extent wants to belong to something. Even the Solaris hold strongly onto eachother as a group and Eudico for guidance and instruction. They didn't want to follow under Nef Anyo, but they still craved leadership and belonging
@@orochinagis yeah but they still wanted some form of leadership to follow is the point I'm making. They just didn't want it to be nef for obvious reasons
Erra was leading first but after Scarlet Spear ballas may convince him to unite forces, ballas is too persuasive and convinced Erra to wear Kuva and give him the leadership
But to Ballas it matters little because he wants EVERYONE to love him. Even just having the one faction not kneel to him makes the others worthless in his mind. It's either all or nothing
@@sheravmaharaj317 Orokin is as Orokin does. They were always these picks in love with perfection, the gold and marble stone everywhere, their Greek god like clothing, they were always assholes.
@@geoczeoszkar I couldn't imagine being in the same room as an orokin, entrati sure at least their nice but the orokin no my mouth would have shot off to check em
@@djdocdragon428 The Entrati family are nice enough, but you must admit their relationship with each other is a dysfunctional nightmare. One of them had to pretty much almost kill the other four in order for them to put a moratorium on their family drama for five minutes and help the Tenno save Deimos.
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225the operator is technically immortal that's why if we get killed we just right back on our feet, i realized this in chains of harrow. if you can't kill them then only one way you win, MAKE THEM BOW, and Ballas just couldn't quite get it that they tenno were exists to exactly resists
It really dose, I've seen conservative and liberal alike (I've been guilty of it too), where they mostly go off what someone else says and I ask myself in my head when I hear certain conversation, "is what your being told matching what is in front of your eyes".
Hell, Ballas' manipulation even worked in the real world! Remember the Chimera Prologue? So many people were on the "forgive Ballas, kill the Lotus" bandwagon, without a single shred of doubt! I thought I was going crazy, like _"how can you trust this man?! He HAS to be up to something, there's no way he isn't!"_
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 When I saw Ballas make the Paracesis, and saying it can kill the Lotus. He became really suspect of if he is saying is true.
I didn't get why after the ostron abduction scene the deacons started to use veils on the face...in the concept art and in the cutscene they don't, and I much prefer the glowing eyes in the shrouded face. Maybe is how they carry the thing?
I was wondering this too. Also, I can't help but wonder if these Narmer Veils are an evolution of the Corrupted masks with Sentient technology. They function extremely the same with Orokin origins.
I guess it's more that Ballas convinced erra that He needed a figure head to rule the system, as not even the masks could lie good enough to let them be ruled by a sentient. Problem for erra is now, that the shrouded half of humanity worships Ballas, and the unshrouded half would Team up with Ballas to get away from the sentients before turning against narmer. So He is essentially powerless.
Did not think he died right there, since the new Dax lady is still alive and breathing when her helmet get cracked. Also no one talk about Teshin's death so I just assumed he's alive. Turns out no one really talked about Teshin was because he's dead
I highkey didn't realize that the game barely acknowledged that at all. I didn't notice until I saw him as a Hologram and then I remembered he got his had snapped by Erra.
I kinda forgot about what had happened to him. Erra dropped him and then it just kinda moved onto Natah and Ballas. It’s a shame the Tenno didn’t even say anything, especially after all he’s done for them.
People have been waiting four years for this, the last thing we need is a cliff hanger ending no offense lmao. The man in the wall scene is already cliffhanger enough
Due to a nature of this reality, they both missed it and didn't. To be honest it does look like another stepping stone towards something even bigger, lorewise - it's unclear, what happened to drifter before this quest and it's unclear, where was the operator at the start of this quest, so: Drifter getting out of Duviri, Orbiter loosing orbit, Ordis getting a body/drifter stopping him from self-destruction, Drifter finding an eidolon Lotus, so it is possible that things with implications about time travel and parallel universes can get back to Narmer period. What I would love to see now though, is some Narmer invasions with some of that Narmer loot and to see corpus and grineer doing their best to eradicate fanatics. Maybe even some of them nodes around the sun with freshly introduced heat mechanic, filled with Narmer fleet, trying to stop everyone from taking loot that is still there after the fall of the empire.
@@sheravmaharaj317 waiting for a quest vs the actually event are two different things. The quest alone, the new war, was a war that merely lasted a few hours. An actual war would’ve/should’ve stretch for a few months. And no, I dnt considered past events to be part of the war since it wasn’t a full blown war yet, it was just skirmishes. Difference. They could’ve easily turned all invasion mission to fit this new change of event. Where you join greneers or corpos vs the sentients and such. They could’ve turned arbitration’s and well to shorten this out, they could’ve made all missions from there on all vs sentients. Atleast for a few months. Maybe even make the archons big bosses that’ll spawn here and there. Just saying. They had so much possibilities
The ‘what is your command’ line from Erra is when The man in the wall yeeted out of Erra and Erra returned a realised ballas is a dick so helped us. Js
From what I remember Erra dropped the leash at the end of the prequel-cutscene, after he slammed Natah/Lotus into a console and ordered her to start the attack. At that time Lotus questioned her motives for helping the sentients as she partly remembered the Tenno and her life as Lotus. My take is that Ballas played the fool to keep Natah in check until he managed to break her entirely with Erra being his servant playing the master.
I feel for the rest of the system. Everyone else suffered because Ballas wanted to control what he could not: the Tenno. There were three people in this drama that mattered: you, Lotus, and Ballass, and everyone else suffered.
Dude's a great villain. Not many f2p villains can say they tricked real life people into taking his side and make them want to kill an abuse victim...!
erra was the most pointless character ever made i do not understand why they swich the roles of erra and balas after 2 cutscenes where ballas calls him master erra end since when ballas got the fource he is littarrly 2 slaps away from the grave
@@zazry86100 with the context we have now, it can be safely assumed that Ballas saved Erra on Lua, otherwise, I doubt erra would want to even step close to ballas much less let him tell him what to do
Anyone remember Erra put ballas in dog chain? And give tenno the sword? What the hell happened? He make us make the sword just to use it on us. Little disappointed I'm sure they original story plan change a lot.
ok so the ballas part we are pretty sure that it was all a ruse from the start but the part where Ballas give us the paracesis some people have been speculating that it was man in wall's manipulation.
@@shanedaley6236 well it kinda ruin for me, the epicess of ballas beg the Tenno to get the sword to end the war for ourselves. It give feeling of hope of power. But now after seeing the used, too bad not much. The war last very short, time skip a lot also drifter tenno from another timeline etc It's cool seeing our grown up tenno, I thought we see that the next big update.
Oh my god he's pondering the orb
Hah
Ehehehheh
Is it any wonder Margulis had beef with him?
Let me guess: green frog lady
What does that mean? I don't know this meme.
0:53 This is the moment Erra realized "oh shit, dad WAS right about him."
Can I just say I loved hunhow in this quest!
@@countlazuli8753 idk hunhow feels kinda nerfed, "sentient destroyer of worlds" yeah right.
@@honkler5974 sentient destroyer of worlds who got trapted in a cave, whithot power, hurted after the war got broken and weaker since he got expeled from the cefalon, it has sense that he is way weaker than before
@@unrandom312 weaker.. and alone. Erra on the other hand has an army behind him
@@thorveim1174 And Erra eventually submitted to Ballas. Not too sure who was the weaker Sentient in this case: Hunhow or Erra...
Ballas’s voice actor is a god. I really felt the ‘But not THEM!’ at 0:49
He didn’t scream excessively like Vay Hek, the line was delivered with such vocal perfection, you could tell he was pissed with those three, short words.
I really hope we get to hear more vitruvian recordings of him, his voice gives Ballas such a great demeanor for a villain.
@@JohnBread69 if Just We could have his voice for the "Primed Leverians" would be wonderfull...
"they wanted to kneel" Tell that to the Solaris...
I think what he might mean is that everyone to some extent wants to belong to something. Even the Solaris hold strongly onto eachother as a group and Eudico for guidance and instruction. They didn't want to follow under Nef Anyo, but they still craved leadership and belonging
@@sheravmaharaj317 Well SU were no longer on Corpus leash
@@orochinagis yeah but they still wanted some form of leadership to follow is the point I'm making. They just didn't want it to be nef for obvious reasons
@@sheravmaharaj317 I think Ballas is under that mindset of "I know what they REALLY want even if they don't know it".
Once you complete New War and go to Eudico in Fortuna, she does say that there were some in Fortuna that willing knelt and took the Veil.
0:51 Erra's "ears" go back just like a terrorized dog. Good job DE!
Ballas became less and less charismatic as the quest went on and in the end we saw he was nothing but an overgrown blue Eric Cartman
At least Cartman can be good, by convenience
Yes lol
"I hate Tenno. They want to bring balance to the Origin system, but all they do is press [4] and go fishing."
@@nickelglasses700 oi I'm a Volt main so....I press [2] 😂
@@nickelglasses700 Ballas confirmed meta hater
I'm mesmerized by Ballas just moving his long-ass arm
This quest was longer than the campaign of some AAA games
Wasn’t it like 4 hour?
@@h3ll0w0rld7 4 to 7 hours for some people
@@goodenoughright5433 7 hours is an exaggeration. even if you walked through everything i highly doubt it would take that long
@@q3mi117 It took me 6 hours
@@jasperdzuong2573 Same
juding from previous cinematics I'm 98% sure that it was all a ruse from the start for those wondering why Ballas and Erra switch role
Erra was leading first but after Scarlet Spear ballas may convince him to unite forces, ballas is too persuasive and convinced Erra to wear Kuva and give him the leadership
I can’t be the only who really wants to be able to replay this quest
They will add it in time. They just wanted to get the quest out first. Looking forward to a fresh replay myself.
@@countlazuli8753 yea same, i just kinda speedran it but i kinda regret it now
You can guys 😊
Even Erra has a point tbh
But to Ballas it matters little because he wants EVERYONE to love him. Even just having the one faction not kneel to him makes the others worthless in his mind. It's either all or nothing
@@sheravmaharaj317 Orokin is as Orokin does. They were always these picks in love with perfection, the gold and marble stone everywhere, their Greek god like clothing, they were always assholes.
@@geoczeoszkar I couldn't imagine being in the same room as an orokin, entrati sure at least their nice but the orokin no my mouth would have shot off to check em
@@djdocdragon428
The Entrati family are nice enough, but you must admit their relationship with each other is a dysfunctional nightmare.
One of them had to pretty much almost kill the other four in order for them to put a moratorium on their family drama for five minutes and help the Tenno save Deimos.
Ballas was honestly the closest villain to take over the galaxy. But failed due to his own ambition.
He got a lot of what he wanted, but he didn't get _EVERYTHING,_ and that was making his Orokin blood boil!
But he *did* take over the galaxy.
@@chadchadlinton4212
But he could never get the Tenno and the Lotus to kill each other. That's what's driving him nuts here.
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 Probably because of both his ambition of conquering the tenno and his fear of them.
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225the operator is technically immortal that's why if we get killed we just right back on our feet, i realized this in chains of harrow. if you can't kill them then only one way you win, MAKE THEM BOW, and Ballas just couldn't quite get it that they tenno were exists to exactly resists
1:40 looks like the drifter's Zariman has left the void
I was thinking the same thing
I suspect thats how he was able to enter reality when the operator was thrown in
GRANDPA WAS RIGHT
1:12 people wanting the comfort of being told on how and what to think? Seems what Ballas had said holds more truth in the real world.
It really dose, I've seen conservative and liberal alike (I've been guilty of it too), where they mostly go off what someone else says and I ask myself in my head when I hear certain conversation, "is what your being told matching what is in front of your eyes".
Hell, Ballas' manipulation even worked in the real world! Remember the Chimera Prologue? So many people were on the "forgive Ballas, kill the Lotus" bandwagon, without a single shred of doubt! I thought I was going crazy, like _"how can you trust this man?! He HAS to be up to something, there's no way he isn't!"_
@@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 When I saw Ballas make the Paracesis, and saying it can kill the Lotus. He became really suspect of if he is saying is true.
I didn't get why after the ostron abduction scene the deacons started to use veils on the face...in the concept art and in the cutscene they don't, and I much prefer the glowing eyes in the shrouded face. Maybe is how they carry the thing?
I was wondering this too. Also, I can't help but wonder if these Narmer Veils are an evolution of the Corrupted masks with Sentient technology. They function extremely the same with Orokin origins.
So in reality erra was being used by ballas as ballas pretended to be a slave but in reality it was always him
Exactly
I guess it's more that Ballas convinced erra that He needed a figure head to rule the system, as not even the masks could lie good enough to let them be ruled by a sentient. Problem for erra is now, that the shrouded half of humanity worships Ballas, and the unshrouded half would Team up with Ballas to get away from the sentients before turning against narmer. So He is essentially powerless.
Poor voice actor can't hide his inner Scotsman/Irishman
I think it works well for Ballas.
Is no one gona talk about how they killed teshin ?
Did not think he died right there, since the new Dax lady is still alive and breathing when her helmet get cracked.
Also no one talk about Teshin's death so I just assumed he's alive.
Turns out no one really talked about Teshin was because he's dead
Yeah, teshin is dead, look at him on the relays
I highkey didn't realize that the game barely acknowledged that at all. I didn't notice until I saw him as a Hologram and then I remembered he got his had snapped by Erra.
Bruh they cracked him like a glow stick
I kinda forgot about what had happened to him. Erra dropped him and then it just kinda moved onto Natah and Ballas. It’s a shame the Tenno didn’t even say anything, especially after all he’s done for them.
DE missed out a really good opportunity. They could introduce the new war and in a year from now close it. With a final quest
People have been waiting four years for this, the last thing we need is a cliff hanger ending no offense lmao. The man in the wall scene is already cliffhanger enough
Due to a nature of this reality, they both missed it and didn't. To be honest it does look like another stepping stone towards something even bigger, lorewise - it's unclear, what happened to drifter before this quest and it's unclear, where was the operator at the start of this quest, so: Drifter getting out of Duviri, Orbiter loosing orbit, Ordis getting a body/drifter stopping him from self-destruction, Drifter finding an eidolon Lotus, so it is possible that things with implications about time travel and parallel universes can get back to Narmer period.
What I would love to see now though, is some Narmer invasions with some of that Narmer loot and to see corpus and grineer doing their best to eradicate fanatics. Maybe even some of them nodes around the sun with freshly introduced heat mechanic, filled with Narmer fleet, trying to stop everyone from taking loot that is still there after the fall of the empire.
DE may add a second part in Duviri Paradox
We already have 3 pre new war quest though...?
@@sheravmaharaj317 waiting for a quest vs the actually event are two different things. The quest alone, the new war, was a war that merely lasted a few hours. An actual war would’ve/should’ve stretch for a few months. And no, I dnt considered past events to be part of the war since it wasn’t a full blown war yet, it was just skirmishes. Difference.
They could’ve easily turned all invasion mission to fit this new change of event. Where you join greneers or corpos vs the sentients and such.
They could’ve turned arbitration’s and well to shorten this out, they could’ve made all missions from there on all vs sentients. Atleast for a few months. Maybe even make the archons big bosses that’ll spawn here and there. Just saying. They had so much possibilities
Amazing acting
I for one am still very confused as to how ballas went from Erra's tortured pet on a leash to calling all of the shots with Erra as his lieutenant
All hail Plankton!
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT PLAYING THIS! Lol
don’t be afraid……
The ‘what is your command’ line from Erra is when The man in the wall yeeted out of Erra and Erra returned a realised ballas is a dick so helped us. Js
How u know that
How did ballas go from getting dragged around like a dog to pondering his orb on a throne. Some parts of this quests story made no sense
bc he was never a slave, that was just pure manipulation
Same I didn't get it
@@Vairek-x so he was pertanding?
From what I remember Erra dropped the leash at the end of the prequel-cutscene, after he slammed Natah/Lotus into a console and ordered her to start the attack.
At that time Lotus questioned her motives for helping the sentients as she partly remembered the Tenno and her life as Lotus.
My take is that Ballas played the fool to keep Natah in check until he managed to break her entirely with Erra being his servant playing the master.
@@Kakyo01 but Erra was treating Ballas like slave now it's the opposite
Very upset I can’t replay thought the story to experience it again
they just haven't added the replay option yet, but they will.
I feel for the rest of the system. Everyone else suffered because Ballas wanted to control what he could not: the Tenno. There were three people in this drama that mattered: you, Lotus, and Ballass, and everyone else suffered.
Is your game in 4k? I have everything on high but feel like it’s far from looking like this
You can switch to the enhanced graphics engine in the launcher.
Laughs in owning a Ps5
Man I like ballas ngl
Dude's a great villain. Not many f2p villains can say they tricked real life people into taking his side and make them want to kill an abuse victim...!
dwelling orb
erra was the most pointless character ever made i do not understand why they swich the roles of erra and balas after 2 cutscenes where ballas calls him master erra end since when ballas got the fource he is littarrly 2 slaps away from the grave
All the sudden Erra became Ballas's bitch oh the reverse.
All a ruse to use the lotus
Previous trailer,
Natah: Hold up. I thought me and Tenno kids supposedly killed you when we met last time. How are you still alive?
Erra: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@zazry86100 ya was kinda thinking they would add something to say erra really did die on Lua but I guess not
@@zazry86100 with the context we have now, it can be safely assumed that Ballas saved Erra on Lua, otherwise, I doubt erra would want to even step close to ballas much less let him tell him what to do
Anyone remember Erra put ballas in dog chain? And give tenno the sword?
What the hell happened? He make us make the sword just to use it on us. Little disappointed I'm sure they original story plan change a lot.
He needed us to take it for his plan to work it was all a ruse to put her against us
it was a ruse, watch erra and ballas' demeanor change once Lotus was shoved "contained"
ok so the ballas part we are pretty sure that it was all a ruse from the start but the part where Ballas give us the paracesis some people have been speculating that it was man in wall's manipulation.
"Change of plan. Ignore your original objective..."
@@shanedaley6236 well it kinda ruin for me, the epicess of ballas beg the Tenno to get the sword to end the war for ourselves. It give feeling of hope of power. But now after seeing the used, too bad not much. The war last very short, time skip a lot also drifter tenno from another timeline etc
It's cool seeing our grown up tenno, I thought we see that the next big update.