Ranking the 2024 Driver Line-ups From Worst to Best
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0:00 - Intro
0:42 - 10. Stake
2:25 - 9. Williams
3:56 - 8. Haas
6:16 - 7. AlphaTauri
8:23 - 6. Aston Martin
11:25 - 5. Alpine
13:29 - 4. Red Bull
15:47 - 3. McLaren
17:56 - 2. Ferrari
21:02 - 1. Mercedes
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the fact there are no new drivers for the first time in f1 blew my mind
AlphaTauri were the strongest 2023 driver lineup. There were 4 of them, they could crush any other lineup in a tug of war.
20:23 soo about carlos’s contract…….
it aged well hahaha
I really think this year could be a make or break season for Magnussen.
The only thing saving Magnussen’s season from last year looking worse was the Haas’ poor race pace.
Ah, the lance stroll scenario
@@ethanwatt-dz3xq I can't think of any other sport that allows a person to participate based on their parent owning/investing in the team. In any other sport the media would obliterate them. Does F1 just have that much control over the media? Why is this not talked about more?
@@Jon-nz3dm he's not the worst driver who raced in the last couple years.
Kmag is a race past driver , he'll suck in 1 lap cars
@@georgthesecond this is true. their potential is completely limited by him, though. as far as constructor placing.
Ahh, a peaceful comments section
Not for long... 😢
Nope
Until someone mention 2021 season
Oscar Pastry
😂😂😂
The comments on Sainz and Ferrari sure aged well!!😂
Sample size: one race. Typical F1 fan commentary. BTW, I think Sainz is very good and Aldas didn’t say different.
@@The_ZeroLine I think they meant in terms of "how much Ferarri apreciate Sainz and what kind of contract they'll give him"
20:22 oh boy, did none of us see this coming haha
For me:
1. Ferrari (really close, both really good)
2. Mercedes (HAM🐐 but George had a bad season)
3. Red Bull (VER🐐but Checo had a horrible season)
4. Mclaren (the one with most potential)
5. Alpine (both really decent but not good enough)
6. Aston Martin (ALO🐐but Stroll lacks a lot)
7. Alpha Tauri (two decent unknowns)
8. Haas (experienced but inconsistent)
9. Stake (balanced but nothing promising)
10. Williams (ALB is great but Logan lacks a lot)
Really close only because car suited sainz until Japan
I have to disagree with the Hamilton rating, as he was quite off on more than one occasion. That being said, he seemed to almost always find pace on sundays so idk
@@mikasr.5 all drivers are extremely sensible to car balance. Only exceptions are Max and Fernando.
@@54_ocram46 well max had Perez quite close when the balance was in favour of Perez and max was uncomfortable with it
@@mikasr.5 he only lost to Perez in pure pace in Baku and was by 4-5 seconds and with a VSC. Even with a car that wasn't suited for him he was still as fast as Checo or just slightly slower.
The same with Fernando, who only was slower than his teammate in pure pace in 2015 against Button and in early 2021 against Ocon.
In order for haas to improve, günther steiner needs to go
But who will carry drive to survive
In order for Haas to improve they need to change their philosophy of buying everything from Ferrari. They need to invest in building their own car.
If TP is the reason they are so bad, the team can be unrepairable for years, if ever. He was there from the very beginning having absolute autonomy so he's behind all hires and all decisions. TP alone can't build a car but if he has the wrong people, then the team is to scrap
well would you look at that
Aged very well🔥🔥
Given last year performance I would give lead to the Ferrari duo. Hamilton outperformed the car and George had a stinker. He only got a draw in HtH qualifying and that's bare minimum for "Mr. Saturday".
Ferrari duo was more consistent, closer in performance but got outed by strategies, freak DNFs (LEC in Australia because of Stroll, or Brazil on way to the grid) and there was less drama between them. So as a driver pairing I would rate them higher.
The Brit-bias is strong ;)
Cheers.
I agree not to mention there teamwork way better than merc
His DNF in Australia was his own fault, not Stroll.....
Race incident @@tiutubanana7506
I very much agree with this list, I think you got it spot on. I hope McLaren are building a car that can challenge for race wins so that both Norris & Piastri have enough "pedigree" to move up your list 😉
Last years car could have challenged for the win at Singapore and Qatar. A lot of the conversation is about what McLaren can do for Lando but he has to do something for them too. Lewis and Max would have won a race in last years McLaren.
@@jamespoole3531Norris is making mistakes getting pressured by Piastri. He doesn't have what it takes to win a championship
@@jamespoole3531Lando is already on the top of the field in terms of consistentency and barely makes and mistakes. Only max and maybe alonso are ahead. And when we're already at what mclaren could do for lando: look on the weather radar at least once.
@@jamespoole3531Singapore? No. The upgraded McLaren was 3rd fastest at best.
On individual talent Mercedes's line up is the best, but if you consider the relationship between the drivers I think Ferrari's is the best
Sainz is clearly better than Russell whilst Hamilton and Leclerc are closely matched. It’s a no-brainer as to which team has the stronger lineup
20:23 ha! the irony
I worry that if LeClerc keeps getting poles, but then loses the races to Max, he might lose his Mojo
Zhou could be a marketing gold mine given how big the Chinese market is for high end German Car.
Even though they could fine quicker driver keeping him is the fastest way to offset the big expense of F1.
About Alpine, Ocon could have increased the perception of his potential given how good he’s 2022 season was compare to Alonso but I think he screwed up off track by reacting wrongly too many time.
Imo Carlos Sainz is improving every season he isn’t the most gifted driver like Max or Charles but still getting closer ans closer every season, I could see him win a world championship in his mid to late 30s
Given the right circumstances a J.Button-like title or an outside shot like M.Webber had in 2010
Ocon's 2022 season was not good compared to Alonso by any means. The only reason Ocon finished ahead was because Alonso had horrible luck.
Funny, if Max would have performed worse but still won the championship, Checo would have looked better and they probably would have been first or second. All drivers above Redbull had some bad days too but they didnt have a teammate who always wins. Just like Mercedes, Redbull had one very consistent driver and one who struggled more, but in Redbulls case the consistent driver performed better.
Personally i think Redbull has the best driver lineup by just having Max. He could have won the championship on his own and checo shows how good the Redbull car is. Yes its the best car but not that much faster as Max makes it seam to be.
That second paragraph you wrote is BS. Max made a couple of mistakes too and if it were a close championship fight those few mistakes would have cost him and the team. I'm talking about things like that curb strike at Canada. The definitely do not have the best driver Line up on the grid purely because of Max he couldn't win the championship on his own if other teams had a better car. Perez was underwhelming which created this godlike illusion around max. There was none of that at the first 4 races of the season when Checo was performing, staying close to max and those two wins. It was when he started underperforming was what made people think max is god, but really he just wasn't challenged. Races like Singapore he couldn't win because the cars were more even there. Races like Las Vegas He couldn't pull away even if he wanted to because Ferrari had a decent package their too
@@san-joshuabarrett You are undervalueing Max's season. There is a reason why no one came close to these numbers even with equally or more dominant cars (Ferrari 2004, Merc 2014-2016 were more dominant in my book, we can debate the timing gaps if you want). I am curious which mistakes you are referring too because I think most people agree that Max drove as close to a perfect season as F1 has seen so far. Perez also isn't as bad as people say. Sure, he is below Hamilton, Alonso, LeClerc and probably Russel but he is very resilient, experienced and a good team player.
In equal cars, that means as a team RB will mostly be getting P1 for Max (due to Perez actually helping him and he currently edges Hamilton and Leclerc imo) which is a lot more points than P2 and below. Perez would than still end up in top 5 usually.
@@NardKoning The reason why no one came close to it was because they had competition if you take the Merc 2014 - 2016 season for example. Rosberg and Hamilton were challenging each other and taking wins from each other right throughout. If it was Rosberg performed like Perez throughout those 3 season (2014-2016) then he could have easily have atleast 15 wins each of those seasons easily. Perez only challenged for like 4 races then his performance went off a cliff. I’ve stated the mistake before him making one at Canada at the same curb Russel lost it if I’m not mistaken. But I remember his radio message “Almost took myself out there haha😅” He had one or two other tiny moments in his car and even a race where his brakes were an issue too but he was just too far ahead for it to be a problem. If it were a closer battle those would be much more detrimental.
And I am NOT undervalueing his season. All I’m saying he’s not godlike as people make him seem. Atleast I’ll wait to see him win that much in a season which has much more competition from other teams. Which I hope 2024 season the teams (particularly Lewis in the Mercedes’)can take the fight to him consistently. And not that one race good other 3 races bad thing they had going on in 2023. If max does that in a close championship battle, all credits to him.
@san-joshuabarrett the reason checo looks bad is because the difference between cars haven't been that large. Qualifying results were close. It wasn't like the Mercedes years in which the two Mercedes cars were 0.5 to 1 sec faster than anyone else. Checo is a bit slower as Max in qualifying and therefore a lot of other drivers qualified between them. That made the difference seam that large. Even Max wasn't always on pole. Still in the race he made something that is very hard look like it is easy. Still the difference in speed between the Redbull and its closest rival is smaller as between the Lewis and his closest non-merc rival in the Mercedes domination years. The strength of the Redbull was tyre wear, but towards the end of the year, other teams were catching up. Still, Max kept winning. Even as you pointed out, other teams were close in race pace.
If you have 19 out of 22 wins, you are one hel of a consistent driver. No other driver had this kind of consistency. I stand by my statements.
@@ruudkooijman819 I stand by mine too. RB’s Quali pace is nothing compared to their race pace. And everyone knows it’s on race day that RB car comes to life and no car on the grid can come close to it. Countless number of races Max fans boast about how he was just cruising. He can put late in the race to get fastest lap with no issue. And their were plenty of races where the RB was miles ahead Quali, where the even create graphics showing on track how far behind the closest car was. So that 0.5 to 1sec ahead thing isn’t just unique to Mercedes. Winning 19/22 is good but I don’t see that happening with the right competition that’s all I’m saying. And if he does that in a tittle fight as competitive as 2021 or even 2014-2019 I’ll comeback to these comments and give him his cherries. Until then he’s a phenomenal driver just not godlike as some would make him seem.
Speaking of talent, it can't be long before you are hosting one of the big F1 shows! You have a voice for radio and a face for tv - perfect combination. But more to the point of real skills, your delivery is outstanding. It is so clear and moves very well. And your analysis is excellent. Well done, young man!
Red Bull have a clear nr.1 driver in Max with a classic wing man. This is similar to Schumacher/Barrichello, Senna/Berger, Hamilton/Bottas. I believe Max is better than any other driver currently on the grid, so as long as he can do his thing, Perez' performance is les of an issue. I would prefer a Norris as team mate though... Mercedes and Ferrari have 2 drivers that are quite close in performance, and it might turn into a nasty rivalry if it would come to a title fight. I think Piastri has shown that he could become a driver to challenge Max, his mental capacity and demeanor are those of a champion, and I think Norris might have a tough year ahead of him.
I agree with putting Sauber last: what a boring line up of also rans... The team feels like it is in a state of limbo. If Haas can somehow improve, they will be dead last, along with Sargeant and Stroll.
i disagree about redbull. bottas and barichello are much better than checo. the redbull was the best car in 21 races (max won 19 and 2 p2). bottas or barichello would have been in the podium in like 18 of those races easily. checo only had 9 PODIUMS. 9 out of easily optainable 21 is so bad and make you wonder if the redbull is only the best car in 12 races for example how many podiums he can get and how many points/which position he will end up. and i'm pretty sure every team values the constructor championship i disagree with the people who say otherwise so checo for me is a big threat to redbull in the constructors
@@oussamabendakir1453I think you mean threat? Treat changes the meaning of Checo's place in the team 😉.
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 yes i added the 'h' . thanks
@@oussamabendakir1453 👍
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I totally disagree about George. Bare in mind he has had the brunt of the bad luck. A engine failure from a potential podium I’m Australia, an engine problem in COTA which ruined his race, that same engine problem caused him to retire Brazil, a break problem in Mexcio, resulting in his tyres dropping out of operating temperature, a major strategy blunder in Japan as well as Lewis handicapping him in Qatar. That’s a lot of points lost due to circumstances outside of his control. Yes he had a scruffy season but he had far worse luck than Lewis, and people breeze over that.
at 8:36 both alpine drivers also scored enough on their on to keep their 6th place in the constructor championship
Always good insight. Well thought out. And I have been following F1 since 1970.
What was your favourite season you've watched
Snap! Approximately lol.
I've probably technically been watching it since 1965 but it took till the early '70s for me to start remembering them. I have "photograph" - like watching a series of postcards - memories of numerous races (especially Graham Hill at Monaco - couldn't tell you where he finished, or how many times I actually saw him. His last one is the one in which the commentary has brief snatches of memory so I say that's the first I remember).
The race I remember for the majority of the laps was Japan 1976. I definitely remember Lauda's accident in Germany (who doesn't?), and more so, his incredibly brave return. Seeing the blood on his fire "proof" balaclava still gives me the shivers. Despite being a Hunt fan, I had 100% respect for Lauda, especially when he pulled in at Japan. That took bigger balls than staying out given the toxic masculinity of the time.
I agree with you regarding Aldas too. Do you watch Aidan Millward and Josh Revel? If not, I totally recommend them. You'll really appreciate them too.
This list is spot on. Good job mate
Aldas, are you open to referring to the team Sauber is branded as as Sauber in future videos? I think everyone will know which team you mean, everyone without a gambling problem despises that name and the less attention for this brand, the better I think
Mercedes in 1st is a war crime
Agree with you pretty much regarding the listing. It's not an easy decision to make and the top 4 could be juggled, but not so much that I'd argue with anyone's positions with these 4.
I really don't like the sprint races, but watching this - with a number of individual drivers in various teams being "held back" by their team mates - I had an idea. It could even work with a reverse grid. Only have the top scoring drivers from each team in each sprint. Don't add the points to the GP scores, so retirements that are not the fault of the driver aren't going to affect it, and have two championships to fight for. With only 10 cars on the grid, I reckon the racing could be awesome!
As 2024 will have a ridiculous Silly Season, I could see RB releasing Checo early (if he provides the same mediocre performance as 2023) and moving Danny Ricc into the no. 2 seat. Lawson could then prove himself with 12 or 13 races in the Racing Bulls car. That gives them options to also sign on someone else to place under the Red Bull umbrella for 2025 and beyond.
I think Aston Martin really shot themselves in the foot with their new fancy gun: Funding but Stroll :/
NANDO el rey
i don’t agreed bout like Okon as a good guy.
I would rather have an Alonso/Stroll lineup than an Ocon/Gasly lineup, it's 100% better to have one top tier driver and one bad driver than two middle tier drivers, specially when the higher you place in a race, the more points you exponentially get.
Would you rather have a lineup where your drivers get P8 P17, P9 P14, P8 P18 or a lineup that ends every race P10 P11, P12 11, P10 P13?
The first team will get more points and big moments, this list doesn't take that into account and therefore is wrong.
When it comes to the drivers on the grid this year, 3 of em clearly standout as the best in every metric. Max Verstappen, Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc. The rest of em are just catching up. Like in the early 2000s Michael Schumacher, Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen. We're in for a treat in the future with Verstappen V Leclerc if Ferrari builds a winning car. Formula 1 comes alive when these two start battling. And you know they respect each other to make it fairly clean. 😊
Change leclerc and alonso
This is pretty disrespectful to Alonso you have to at least include him here(or take out leclerc)
@@coolio33388 As if Alonso cares about my opinion. I'm talking about sheer raw talent behind the wheel and drivers who are still improving with experience. We all know what Alonso can do.
@@sujjoJust like Hamilton is going to improve much anymore lol. He is going to retire in a few years anyway.
Well I would rate Max highest, Hamilton and Alonso on same level and then Leclerc according to their performance last year
Following on from that Aldas. Most people agree that Merc incompetence in strategies, opposite setups to LH and mechanical failures cost George AT LEAST 40 points. Definitely at least 30 or more. And that’s before counting his own mistakes.
If that hadn’t of happened he’d of easily got 4th. So I don’t think he is entirely to blame for last year.
But the same goes for ferrari drivers and leclerc who has been cost 60+ points by reliability,strategy and pitstops
@@greenfj1466 I’d have doubts it’d of been 60 points. But still a lot sure. Some of it was Leclerc’s fault (Australia) like some is George’s fault (Canada).
If Ferrari weren’t Ferrari I can see Charles getting 2nd place though. As Ferrari were lightning fast at some races.
@@gameofender4463singapore too my man
40 points 😂😂😂😂 Russell didn’t lose shit. 18 points at most in Australia - that’s it. Every other points loss was self-inflicted LMAO
Respectfully Aldas, I don’t agree with you in regards to Merc on two counts.
1) I don’t think Lewis had that much “better race pace” than George. Merc were always explaining that their drivers were running opposite setups to hope they got the most with one of them. For example choosing to get a podium with one even if the other could only get a 7th or 8th with the other.
Example, in Belgium they had George run the slower, high downforce setup in case it rained and Lewis the opposite.
And when you mention COTA, the car was against the rules simple as that. And Lewis ran more downforce than George.
And 2) George has arguably had the worst luck of the year. With the possible exception of Charles. A complete reversal of 2022. When Lewis was faster/better but was unlucky and it was George carrying the team in the points.
I think they’re both equal in all aspects or INCREDIBLY close.
It comes down to who got the better setup and who has the more reliable car. Since George’s car failed him TWICE. And both occasions he was faster than Lewis (Australia and Brazil).
Look at the numbers. In race pace Lewis is CLEARLY ahead of GR and it is NOT that close.
@@izieky Yes it is close. But as I explained and you completely ignored. They run opposing setups as a matter of principle to allow the team the opportunity to maximise learning of the car and how it behaves as well as making sure at least one got the maximum out of the car.
It’s just not close watch the races before you talk, Mexico was the perfect example Lewis was able to nurse his tires perfectly to a p2 while George was stuck in traffic burning his tires the whole race
Your basically saying that Lewis has had a better setup in 95% of the races this year which just isn’t true. Sure George was unlucky in Australia but that’s where the bad luck peaked
@@petertheawesome1 Take your own advice. An Mexico is an outlier and you know it is. Look at Vegas and Abu Dhabi, George was up front and Lewis was struggling to stay in the top ten. They were equal in race pace. It was just a case of who got the better setup.
There are 6 drivers who need to go: K-Mag, Checo, Bottas, Zhou, Logan and Stroll. Zhou and Bottas…even in the RBR they’d be a boring lineup. Logan’s chance of being in F1 in 2025 is about .000001%.
I agree that Mercedes have the best driver line-up even if others might say Russell and Hamilton are the likeliest to "clash" if they have a race winning or championship tier car. I think they are both mature enough to keep it civil, they are in two very different places in their career which helps. Additionally, Lewis Hamilton's driving always goes up a notch when there is a championship on the line so I think the gap between him and George would keep the peace regardless.
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Well said.
Put any driver you want on Perez’s seat, and you’ll get the same result for the team.
There’s no way to go down.
I think that 2 place in Canada carried Nico’s average qualifying above Albon
Checo is getting a little too much hate I think. Only a couple of drivers on the grid would be able to handle ths RB19. I think Charles is definitely one of them.
The car has extreme oversteer. So even Drivers like Fernando or Lewis, who both prefer understeer cars might have struggled with it.
Checo is still a lot better than Pierre and Albon, because this RB19 is so far ahead of what they got to work with during their times and even with those slower cars Verstappen was able to make the gaps between them quite obvious.
Take a shot every time Aldas says “you know” 😉
P.s. great vid as always man
Mate, you probably won't read this and I know people reading the comments don't care about my comment.... But I've been watching your videos for a pretty long time and I really like them, the way you talk about F1 with so much passion and with great content. I just think you are an amazing TH-camr! But I realised a minute ago I wasn't subscribed to to your channel. But now I am, I should've done it way earlier, but as we say in the Netherlands: "beter laat dan nooit/Better late than never!"). And yes I know like I said you probably won't read this and the people reading the comments won't care about this comment. But I just wanted to thank you for your amazing content, keep it up and you deserve and probably will be sooner than later one of the most respected F1 YT channels! And if anyone reads this: WTF! TY! And Please give this man the support he deserves! Greetings from the Netherlands! And Imre (that's me haha😂) And to really end this: THANK YOU ALDAS FOR YOUR GREAT CONTENT!❤🎉
Absolutely no british bias, don't even think about it!
Good list bro
My choices (Given as if 2023 happened in a vaccum and ignoring everything from 2022 and before) :
1: Ferrari (I rate Leclerc and Sainz higher than George individually but I rate LH higher than all the other 3)
2: Mercedes (I rate LH about the slightly above Lando and Russel slightly above Piastri , for the sake of this rating I ignore the context of Piastri being having been rookie with the potential to have a much better sophmore year , going on 2023 performance alone)
3: McLaren (Even though points-wise Piastri got a smaller percentage of McLaren's points than Perez got for Red Bull, in several races Piastri had a worse car than Lando which explains some of the gap between the two , I think Piastri had showed MUCH better performance than Perez when all is said and done so even with me rating Max quite a bit above Lando , McLaren is significantly ahead of Red Bull in this comparison on my book)
4: Red Bull (I rate Max higher than Fernando and Perez above Stroll)
5: Aston Martin (I dont think I have to explain anything here)
6: Alpine (I lied , i think that to rate these two compared to the AT/VisaRB drivers you have to take into account 2022 Yuki vs Gasly)
7: Alpha Tauri/VisaRB (too many unknowns , dont know where else to put them )
8: Williams (I rate albon higher than Hulk, and even though I rate Sargeant lower than Kevin , i think Albon makes up for the diffrerence)
9: Haas (I rate Hulkenber above Bottas and I rate kevin about the same as Zhou)
10: Stake/Sauber (Better luck next year...)
15 hour late notification, just beautiful!
Finally someone not overrating McLaren
They have the most potential and it isn’t even close. Piastri is already better than Russell and Norris was the second best driver behind Verstappen last season.
These type ranking videos are fun ...but let's be frank shall we? ANY team would take Checo if they could have Max. That factor makes them the best line up.
Any team wouldn't take Checo if they risked losing the constructors' championship (which Red Bull did in 2021 btw) due to him underperforming while also facing a COMPETITIVE team (i.e. not the 2022 and 2023 Red Bull domination). For what happens when you have just one great driver in a non-dominant car see Aston Martin. Would you sign Alonso if that meant Stroll came with the deal? Let's be frank here shall we? This ranking is about the line-ups not how incredible Max is so the teams would happily sign Checo alongside him (they would most definitely not). You can't have the cake and eat it too. Checo won't matter as long as the Red Bull is in a class of its own. The minute others catch up or pass we'll see Checo's value and then it won't matter how incredible Max is. And it's the constructors' title which gives the winning team the big, big money not the drivers' title.
@@DanielB.-uv5jiIt wasn't necessarily Checo's performances (which were not that great) in 2021 that cost Red Bull the constructors championship, it was Mercedes ramming their rivals out of the track in Silverstone and Hungary.
You're assuming their team would have a dominant car, for a driver line up ranking you need to imagine all drivers in the same car, surely. If you still think Max & Checo would outscore Leclerc & Sainz, Lewis & George and Lando & Oscar, think about this...
If all drivers had the same car and the results were something like this:
1st Max
2nd Fernando
3rd Lewis
4th Charles
5th Lando
6th Sainz
7th George
8th Checo
9th Oscar
10th Lance
Max and Checo's team would be around 3rd or 4th I reckon
1 max. Doesn't need a teammate
2 mercedes
3 mclaren
4 ferrari
5 -10 doesn't matter
Aldas my guy always putting Mercedes 1st is just pure British bias.
Sure, Lewis is Lewis and will always try to drag everything and anything out of the car regardless of pace or end result but your boy George throws quite the hissy fits and can get explosive when things don’t go his way and still has the capability to throw away races at a moments notice. I don’t think it’s fair putting Mercedes number 1.
On pure combined drive line up ratings that should go to Ferrari as they have the best balanced line up at the top. Leclerc might have ultimate pace but Sainz is always there if Leclerc falters like he does at times.
And I’m not even a Ferrari fan.
Agreed. Ferrari is much consistent compare to Mercedes
I think in equal cars RB will beat both of them actually. Max will edge out Hamilton and LeClerc and Perez is much more resilient than Sainz or Russel and not as bad as he seems. Plus RB actually works well as a team.
Perez better then Sainz and Russel... Wtf are you talking about also tbh if leclerc ham and max all got equal cars it would be way closer then you think, Leclerc and max in slightly equal cars were evenly matched in 2022 and 2021 ham was matching max with a slight slower car, honestly max would have like 9 wins leclerc like 7 and maybe ham 7 too @@NardKoning
@@LucasMueller0418 They were somewhat equal because Max had 2 reliability DNFs. Very quickly after going toe to toe Ferrari/LeClerc crumbled. I would sooner say 10 wins Max, 7 wins Hamilton, 6 wins LeClerc but that is a pointless discussion to have.
Perez is not (much) worse than Russel and Sainz, this is where people miss the statistics. Its closer over a season than people think. Halfway in 2022 season (after fairly equal cars in this first segment) these are the standings:
1 Max Verstappen 208
2 Charles Leclerc 170
3 Sergio Perez 151
4 Carlos Sainz 133
And that is with 2 reliability DNFs for Max. Otherwise RB would walk Ferrari much harder and LeClerc would be closer to Perez' amount of points even. Notice how Perez is above Sainz? And if people claim that Ferrari is better than Merc (which many are), then that means RB would beat Merc even more than in these points I just showed.
I stand by my point, RB is stronger than rated here and the best team out of all. They are underrated because Max is at one with this car making Perez look terrible and crushing his mentality. In a team v team fight Perez would not have this problem and he would be, as he was in 2022, above Sainz and potentially Russel as well.
No offense to your opinion when talking about AlphaTauri and only talking about Ricciardo trying to move to Red Bull and completely ignoring the fact that Yuki has made himself a suitable candidate for that seat is rather annoying. He beat 3 teammates over the course of the season, and consistently put that car even when it was a backmarker, into point or near point-scoring positions
I had Williams ranked number one because one of the drivers is from my home country.
I see you’ve adopted the same strategy sir.
Putting the Williams line up below HAAS is crazy. IMO, the HAAS lineup is far more uninspiring than Williams or Stake F1/ Alpha Romeo
Maybe I misunderstood but you basically said the Haas drivers are a match for the Alpine drivers, just without the car to back them up, then put two other driver pairings between them. Personally if I were a team manager I would take Ricciardo and Tsunoda over Ocon and Gasly without hesitation.
10) Stake - Neither drivers have got much, Bottas can show some potential but is nothing compared to what he used to be. Zhou is fine, but doesn’t seem like a huge amount of potential (kinda like Gio)
9) Williams - Albon is a solid driver who on his day I feel can fight with the best but Logan needs to show more potential than he already has
8) Haas - Kinda similar to the Stake lineup but more solid I feel
7) Racing Bulls? - Yuki has become a very solid driver, Ricciardo is still solid for sure, not the Daniel of old but still able of some great results
6) Aston Martin - Alonso is performing amazingly and is such a valuable driver to Aston, stroll is fine but lacking considering is vast levels of experience.
5) Alpine - A very solid and closely matched pair of midfield drivers, no wow factor from either driver but both very capable
4) McLaren - Probably the lineup with the most potential to grow. Lando is definitely on his way to becoming a top driver. Piastri has bags of potential too, defo has some areas to work on but no doubt that will happen with experience.
3) Red Bull- Verstappen is scarily good right now and will take a lot from those around him to beat him. Checo has been lacking and is defo a weaker no2 driver compared to the likes of Bottas, Barrichello etc, but he is a very capable driver and has proven himself to be a quality driver in F1 over his career
2) Ferrari-Both top level drivers, Sainz I think has surprised a lot of people with how close he has been to Leclerc during their time at Ferrari and one of the safest pair of hands in terms of a lineup.
1) Mercedes-Close with Ferrari and similar sentiment. Feel Hamilton and Russell have a higher ceiling to Leclerc and Sainz, although it does have the potential to be a tense relationship
I just have a different view on the top 2. I think on the end is hamilton carrying russell on this. Carlos highs and lows last season were def better than the highs and lows of russell. So in terms of lineups Ferrari for me is on top of Ferrari. So if hamilton is carrying on this section russell on this type of list why is max not carrying checo? Just doesnt add up and the top 1 placement just makes this list a bit of inconsistent. Specially when he mentions in "terms of talent theorically mercedes line up is stacked" well this is not theorically if we are analyzing their last season performance. So the list was good until you arrived to the top 2 and it makes the list like meee
You are ranking drivers. How can you say, that HUL and MAG could beat GAS and OCO in the same car and proceed to put Hass line-up 8 and Alpine 5th. Please explain.
I think it’s because he wasn’t harsh enough in this video on Magnussen like he has been in the past. Magnussen isn’t in Hulk’s/Ocon’s/Gasly’s league. Magnussen is so boring people tend to gloss over the second he’s talked about.
Might be biased but I'd rank the McLaren line up here as the bet since Norris and Piastri both have so much promise and are very close and improving whereas LeClerc is error prone and Sainz seems to have a few off races and the same is true of Russell. I'd rank the three Mclaren top then Mercedes then Ferrai but they are all very compeditive here.
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Yuki is a cool character, whatever you say man😂
My top 10 lineups:
1 - Mercs
2 - Ferrari
3 - Mclaren
4 - RB
5 - Alpine
6 - AT
7- Aston Martin
8 - Haas
9 - Sauber
10 - Williams (Albon is good but Sargeant is horrible)
Is Aldas gonna call it Stake, Sauber or Kick?
Kick in Islamic countries and Japan because gambling is banned. Stake everywhere else
my boy preditected Tsunoda flipping out at the first race lmao
I think it’s a reasonable list.
If Mercedes had a more stable platform within the W14, I’m sure both drivers would’ve been more consistent. Sometimes GR had the upper hand on Saturday or vice versa with Lewis. But the gap would be 0.3-0.5s. Something for Mercedes to look into.
Carlos and Charles were much closer in quali on a weekend-to-weekend comparison. But Ferrari has to design a car that’ll suit both the driving style of their drivers. Mercedes don’t have this problem…
Anyone think if Zhou or Sargeant struggle, we see Mick Schumacher return in one of those seats? I would ask about Lawson, but I think he’s waiting for the Alphaturi seat that’s coming.
I think Mick is better than Zhou and Sargeant. Trouble is, is he a better option than the likes of Vesti or Antonelli?
for me it'd be:
1. Ferrari
2. McLaren
3. Mercedes
4. Red Bull
5. Aston Martin
6. Alpha Tauri
7. Alpine
8. Haas
9. Williams
10. Sauber
i really hope Sargeant steps up his game this year, I want to see him do well.
I question the part on Driver Line-Ups already with many. I think that an obvious number 1 driver and being supported number 1 driver goes a long way. That is underrated.... I think Lewis LOST the 2021 not because of the last race. He should have been ahead already of Max in points. Easy to blame masi but it was the working together as a team. You can say whatever you want but that 2021 season of Red Bull, beating the Dominant Mercedes in that season WAS a team effort. We even saw Albon (praised by many including Max) on the back getting the best setups...
You can say much about Perez but HE does have the back of Max (not saying it goes both ways). But they can work together, that is completely different from Russell and Hamilton. They even pushed there team to work opposite... if it would have be Russell they would still drive the 0 pod concept. Putting them at number 1 is just ridiculous to me. If your looking at the top 10 drivers of team bosses/drivers they all ranked Russell 9th. So to me if you want to great drivers together think best is Ferrari if you consider chemistry as a factor because it's a team sport I would go for Red Bull...
Perez did a great defense for Max but i think saying "Dominant Merc" in regards to 2021 season is just wrong. Even Adrian Newey admitted that their car was the better car throughout the season, and if you don't believe literally the guy who made the car, most data analysts agree that they were pretty equal.
@@edanurbozkurt4163 Yeah, the guy who helped design the car is really going to talk down his own creation. Just like parents talk their own kids down all the time. Newey is not a reliable source in this, that merc was definitely dominant as it was still a remnant of the cheat it was designed as.
@@edanurbozkurt4163 the real Merc only came out when they turned on the real engines.... but for the rest they won the constructor championship and it's considered a era like we had the Ferrari era, now it seems a Red Bull dominant era (you know between rule changes) they literately won all constructors championship in those. Of course Red Bull did a real good job to catch up and 2024 isn't a 100% Red Bull will win it all. But in general there is 1 team dominating an era. But ok your right that season it was for sure more equal RB in the beginning of the season where Mercedes just had that extra at the end of the season. It wasn't a dominant season for Mercedes but the era itself was.
Don't you think that when Bottas did a better job like in Mexico it could have swung the other way?
I'm new here. Good list. This youtuber could pass for Gordon Ramsay's son, he looks just like him (but way younger and dark hair)
Of all the teammates Max has had, Only Sergio was able to deliver for, and against Max. What Driver did better against Max? Albon? Gasley? Danny ric? hahaha no.
Sure Sergio had a pretty crap 2023 season. Though, when your team developed the car for your teammate (Max) who's driving style is exactly the opposite of yours...Well. Yea though, Checo made big mistakes for sure (Mexico GP). BUT most of the season he was fighting a car that wasn't developed for him, so he suffered because he just cant have confidence in the car. Alas, that's F1 The #1 driver gets the car he wants. Sergio needs to somehow find it in 2024 or he's gone. Mercedes #1 though? I mean. I dont see it unless Merc does something magical with the car. Lewis for the win though if you right!
The car is develop to be the fastest possible, its up to him if he can't adapt and keep up with his teammate
Wonder what Sauber would be called in the next F1 game lmao
Oscar pastry gonna be a menace on track this year.
3 weeks later: Charles Leclerc and Lewis Hamilton are teammates at Ferrari....
Still an accurate video for 2024
Magnussem is doing much worse than hulk in my opinion. You can simply think like this: If haas was going into bankruptcy at the end of 2023 and leave F1, making hulk and mag free, mag would not receive any call to drive for any team in 2024. Hulk, on the other hand, he definitely would be called to williams or sauber at the very least.
After Russell's form last year I would probably go Ferrari > McLaren > Red Bull > Mercedes
Relevant drivers probably: Max, Lewis, {Charles, Lando, Carlos,} Oscar, George, Sergio
Where Charles, Lando and Carlos are all really close with each other. Charles is more talented, but Carlos is tactically smarter.
Mine would be:
1. Ferrari
2. McLaren
3. Mercedes
4. Red Bull
5. Alphatauri
6. Alpine
7. Aston
8. Williams
9. Haas
10. Stake
Think 2025 will see changes, Checo will be out, think one of the Alpine drivers may go, Williams, Stake and Haas will have new driver lineups for sure.
I agree with your top 10 fully! Thanks for the vid
Good video, but I would have Ferrari as the top combination
There should be a difference between strongest and best. The best line up is the red bull because there is a clear no1 driver and a descent no2. The strongest lineups are probably Merc, Ferrari and McLaren.
"What kind of contract their gonna give Carlos?" that didn't age well
Lol, Ricciardo pushing for RB seat really aged well.
I'd drop Haas to 10th, but otherwise I see little to argue with. I think a RB style line-up with a strong/ordinary pairing does have significant advantages, but on overall strength of both drivers RB deserves to be about where it is.
1) Mercedes (Lewis has TONS of experience, George can bring Carlos's form)
2) Ferrari (Very good pair, but Ferrari needs to manage them better)
3) Red Bull (I think Pérez will step up, and will bring a Piastri level)
4) McLaren (Norris did mistakes in crucial moments, Max never)
5) Alpine (above averages, no weak link)
6) Aston Martin (Alonso is world class, if Stroll can bring the first or last 1/4th of the season, they could go for 5th)
7) Tauri (Tsunoda got a nice season, both driver will race for remain in F1)
8) Haas (Hulk is still a beast, last chance for KMag)
9) Stake (We saw Bottas vs Lewis and Albon vs Max, and Zhou is better than Logan)
10) Williams (Albon is good, but Logan is just too bad for everyone else)
How dod Ferrari need rto manage their drivers better, and not merc, when it was the merc drivers that came together constantly, and cost themselves a shot of victory in quatar
Isn't it hilarious how people pick on Norris as the guy who "made mistakes in crucial moments" when all of the drivers maybe apart from Max made errors that were costly?
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 Alonso had like 1, in Vegas, I can't remember more. Norris need to do that step up to be on pair with Max and Fernando.
@@purokujunior4720 Fernando run to gravel in the quali of Spanish gp, he spun in the sprint at Spa and ran wide a couple of times in Qatar. He didn't have a perfect season, but a great one nevertheless, and a bit better one than Lando's in my opinion. Alonso is pretty much my favourite driver btw, but I still try to be objective when I am evaluating the performance level of each driver.
The magnuson gas is wild
14:48 like a fish to water you mean? lol
Quality
I honestly think it’s Ferrari is number 1, they’re so close to each other and have been very consistent thoughtout the season
1. Ferrari
2. Mercedes
3. Red Bull (max carries it)
4. McLaren
5. Alpine
6. Aston Martin
7. AlphaTauri
8. Williams
9. Alfa Romeo
10. Haas
Ferrari 1. ?
@@chemil2907 charles and carlos are very good solid drivers
Charles is wdc material, Carlos is solid but one step behind, overall Ferrari p1
@@chemil2907 yes. I’d say there’a a bigger gap between sainz and Perez than there is leclerc and max, so ahead of red bull, and a bigger gap between sainz and Russell than leclerc and hamilton
@@dpot2231Hamilton> Leclerc
Russell>Sainz
Bro putting Mercedes 1st lmfao they're a crash and DNF Fest
Ferrari deserve top spot because the team have produced results using their two drivers in an efficient way there aren’t any times that spring to mind where the drivers would negatively impact the other drivers race. When I think of rating team driver line ups it’s less about their individual ability and their performance that they bring the team overall. Clearly HAM/RUS is the best two drivers together on the same team but they don’t work efficiently well together so they are an unstable line up
Yes, but at the same times you will never see Ferrari's drivers full potential in the same car and the same time
I think Merc on 1 is a bit optimistic. For me it is a bit like with Red Bull. They have a magnificent driver with Sir Lewis but Russell did not impress me at all last year. On the other hand Charles and Carlos have really shown they can take matters in their own hand while being hampered by their team. I would honestly rank them 4: RB. 3 McLaren, 2: Merc and 1: Ferrari.
Now if RB was Max and Verstappen.... easy #1, if Checo would be replaced mid season for Daniel, they instantly gain a spot, maybe even two. I rank Oscar and George higher than Checo but not higher than Daniel in an RB. And yes, I am biased, I am an RB fan. That said... everyone is biased so there is that.
I love gunther for the memes, but he needs to go and get otmar in
Surprised that Williams is in 9th with just one driver
Max Verstappen is 150% compared to everyone else so it doesn't matter who his teammate is 🤷♂️
Max fans are unbearable
Did not age well about Sainz
Alpine is in the middle just like everywhere
Dunno if I would put Mercedes at the top. George, although marvelous in his best of days, has shown weaknesses not worthy of a world champion, both in race craft and in personality. Lewis does bring the duo up, but still I would put Charles / Carlos on top of them when averaging. And as potential definitely Norris and Piastri are on top.
Aldas c’mon brother, Merc #1 are you taking the piss?
just call it sauber bro, that's what the team is
How come mercedes with the same issue as red bull ( being one driver perform much better than the other ) be first and redbull 4th Then Ferrari was clearly the best line up all fact consider
I would say williams has the worst driver line up. Williams was much faster than alfaromeo. Zhou is better than saergent and bottas is better than albon.i doubt the true potential of williams as their driver is albon.albon is getting a lot of praise however he is having a rookie as teammate and williams is lot better than whatvit was 2years before. I am sure other midfield drivers like ocon, bottas, hulkenberg would beat albon.
In my opinion, the list goes
1. Ferrari (Charles's quick, Sainz's smarter).
2. McLaren (the only team that I think has 2 drivers who could genuinely win a title)
3. Red Bull (Verstappen carries)
4. Mercedes (Hamilton's quick, however slightly overrated. Russell's is quite overrated in my opinion.
5. Alpine (2 good mid field drivers)
6. Aston Martin (Stroll brings this down quite a bit)
7. Alpha Tauri (Ricciardo seems to be bringing the team forward, Yuki makes a few too many mistakes. however, is quick
8. Haas (2 conscient mid field drivers. Hulkenberg better than Kmag)
9. Williams (Albon's the best mid field. I always considered this year as F1.5 for Sargeant. Williams knew he wasn't ready but they had Latifi so they promoted him early to prepare him for 2024.
10. Stake. (Bit boring)
McLaren higher than 4th is not possible in my opinion. They have never even won a race, let alone fought for a championship. How can 2 youngsters with zero F1 achievements (yes I understand its the car but stats are stats) be above a 3x WDC with 54 wins and a 6-win resilient veteran. I think we need to see a bit more from the McLaren boys before putting them in with the big boys.
Potential
@@NardKoning i wouldnt say "zero F1 achievements"..... oscar had a sprint win and a couple podiums and lando finished second to max 5 times, and got 7 podiums in the second half of the season. i do agree that they're around 4th, but i think we've definitely seen what they are capable of with a good car.
What is stake
1) Merc (two WDC calibre drivers).
2) Ferrari (One WDC and one very close to it).
3) Red Bull (Max is Max and Checo is, well Checo).
4) McLaren (Oscar has incredible potential and Norris is a puppy. Modern day Hakkinen & Coulthard. Same team too).
5) Aston (Fernando is a legend and Stroll has shown moments of brilliance).
Not that it would surprise me that your takes on Russell and Norris are once again 💩, but the fact that after the shocker of a season that Lance had all that you've got to say about him is "he had moments of brilliance" is simply ignorance at its finest.
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 Ahh the Russell hater is still obsessive over George no surprise. And Stroll has had great moments in his career. More than Lando 😂.
@@gameofender4463 So I'm obsessive about George because I think his last season was still underwhelming to say the least (true), but you are surely not obsessive about Norris even though you just said Lance has had more impressive moments than Lando (false). The lack of self-awareness you have surprises me once again.
Nah sorry but Williams has to be last. Albon is fine but Sargeant drags them down. In my opinion Sargeant is currently the only driver on the grid that clearly isn't good enough for F1. Maybe he will be better next season but the last one was just bad, even for a rookie. Also it's hard to say how good Albon really is. I'd pick Bottas just because he was able to stand his ground with a top team. Yeah Albon was rushed but there is still a question mark. I see Haas and Sauber about the same. Magnussen really isn't better than Zhou and Hulk and Bottas are pretty equal as well. Maybe slight edge to Haas because of the experience.
Aged like fine milk
This is a video for 2024 , not 2025
so this video is still just as accurate as the day he published it