He goes red in the cheeks like me when talking in front of people. I really like Ben, because he injects some humour into his talks and keeps the audience engaged. I wish I had that talent! :)
I want these random tests to become a big thing in education, they seem useful. Please do one on whether testing children helps them learn, or improves teaching. I have seen too many 6/7 year olds crying out of stress because of Y2 SATS.
First we have to prioritise the purposes of education. If you define the purpose of education to optimise performance in written exams any evidence based research is likely to come down in favour of learning the things that can be easily measured in those exams and indeed practising the exams. How do we weight the importance of exams against other aspects such as being cooperative, providing leadership, being able to study autonomously etc etc?
Generally speaking especially in terms of sociology and psychology findings are usually generalizable moreso than the reverse. I think maybe in the same way as finding about a medicine or a program, especially when what is really at play is understood should be applicable elsewhere. If it's not generalizeable it probably is more likely that what's causing the change is still available. It's a lot like effects being dose dependent, usually yes but sometimes no. Whatever it was that the parenting program "did" in America is probably still applicable in Britain just that there may be a different way of actually gaining leverage and actually doing the same intervention (like what you're doing is increasing parenting time and increasing security. If you look at the parenting program as increasing parenting time and increasing security then you can still do the same thing, just the parenting program won't work that was used in America) I'm reminded of the argument in concern to socialism. The findings are looking more and more to be generalizable. I think the concern about scale is especially overdone. Probably people will respond to more or less a similar thing in concerns to social democracy regardless of the scale but dependent on other factors entirely. If we could actually go to socialist democracy we would do very well but we don't know what intervention to apply to do so
Was the trial in Daniel really randomized? All the people on one diet were Jews, and all the people on the other diet were non-Jews. I love that story in any case.
Given what he goes onto say, early in the presentation, about doctors needing to trust their authority less and go with the evidence, I have to conclude that you didn't watch 5 minutes into the video before commenting. That or you're incapable of hearing things that go against your worldview.
Interesting presentation. There are so many aspects of education that are politically-driven or depend on your social aspirations. I wonder if it is really possible to come up with results that are the same as what you get in medicine. I suppose if you reduce education to GCSE results that would be one way, but what an impoverishment!
So why is Gove completely changing the education system. Current results in GCSE and A levels are improving over the years, overhauling the system to create a more 'rigorous' system has very little (if none) evidence. In our schools we need to inspire creativity and let intelligence thrive rather than put more stress on students through rigour. There are alternatives to the current system and the (victorian-esqu) proposed system, just look more closely. I am a current student.
Since when has the basic sentence "I'm a(n) [insert profession title here]" become condescending? Especially when Goldacre goes on to cite the bad history of authoritarian doctors as his reason for stating his profession outright.
I think an observation about his smug delivery is relevant because it devalues his message. I'm attacking who he is I'm attacking the smug way he referenced his profession.
He goes red in the cheeks like me when talking in front of people. I really like Ben, because he injects some humour into his talks and keeps the audience engaged. I wish I had that talent! :)
Excelent it is the time that education and teacher assume the rol to teach evidence production and use methods in any field .
I want these random tests to become a big thing in education, they seem useful.
Please do one on whether testing children helps them learn, or improves teaching.
I have seen too many 6/7 year olds crying out of stress because of Y2 SATS.
I find Dr. Goldacre's talks quite compelling. Are there any substantive criticisms of what he is saying about science, education, and medicine?
First we have to prioritise the purposes of education. If you define the purpose of education to optimise performance in written exams any evidence based research is likely to come down in favour of learning the things that can be easily measured in those exams and indeed practising the exams. How do we weight the importance of exams against other aspects such as being cooperative, providing leadership, being able to study autonomously etc etc?
Generally speaking especially in terms of sociology and psychology findings are usually generalizable moreso than the reverse. I think maybe in the same way as finding about a medicine or a program, especially when what is really at play is understood should be applicable elsewhere. If it's not generalizeable it probably is more likely that what's causing the change is still available. It's a lot like effects being dose dependent, usually yes but sometimes no. Whatever it was that the parenting program "did" in America is probably still applicable in Britain just that there may be a different way of actually gaining leverage and actually doing the same intervention
(like what you're doing is increasing parenting time and increasing security. If you look at the parenting program as increasing parenting time and increasing security then you can still do the same thing, just the parenting program won't work that was used in America)
I'm reminded of the argument in concern to socialism. The findings are looking more and more to be generalizable. I think the concern about scale is especially overdone. Probably people will respond to more or less a similar thing in concerns to social democracy regardless of the scale but dependent on other factors entirely. If we could actually go to socialist democracy we would do very well but we don't know what intervention to apply to do so
Was the trial in Daniel really randomized?
All the people on one diet were Jews, and all the people on the other diet were non-Jews.
I love that story in any case.
Given what he goes onto say, early in the presentation, about doctors needing to trust their authority less and go with the evidence, I have to conclude that you didn't watch 5 minutes into the video before commenting. That or you're incapable of hearing things that go against your worldview.
Interesting presentation. There are so many aspects of education that are politically-driven or depend on your social aspirations. I wonder if it is really possible to come up with results that are the same as what you get in medicine. I suppose if you reduce education to GCSE results that would be one way, but what an impoverishment!
So why is Gove completely changing the education system. Current results in GCSE and A levels are improving over the years, overhauling the system to create a more 'rigorous' system has very little (if none) evidence. In our schools we need to inspire creativity and let intelligence thrive rather than put more stress on students through rigour. There are alternatives to the current system and the (victorian-esqu) proposed system, just look more closely. I am a current student.
Since when has the basic sentence "I'm a(n) [insert profession title here]" become condescending? Especially when Goldacre goes on to cite the bad history of authoritarian doctors as his reason for stating his profession outright.
1.53 - This man is a Dr. He's also in no way smug or condescending....oh, wait.
I think an observation about his smug delivery is relevant because it devalues his message. I'm attacking who he is I'm attacking the smug way he referenced his profession.
Charlotte, I think we have to get over that. I'd rather have the smug truth than humble snake-oil.