@@Madmarsha True. Antivaxxers have been trying to silence the data. Just like Exxon did back in the day, which is a problem up to this day. The publishing structure is just a sidetrack. Keep in mind this talk is TEN years old. And yes, medicine in the US (FDA is US only) is bonkers, it isn't trusted anywhere near the world stage.
You’re not wrong. I posted a video like this on a WhatsApp group, got ejected from the group, and contacted by police after I texted the person. We are turning into a corrupt police state. It’s like 1984 come true!
It's not just negative results that are suppressed. But also traditional/natural approaches. Approaches used when there was more health. (And very few heart attacks.) It all means sickness benefits is crowded. But health benefits is a good opportunity.
Matt Gilbert It is the money. When money encounters science, or politics, or religion, or anything else, things get turned away from where they should be headed. Money may be the root of all evil, as the saying goes, but we all know that money is a rampant force in everything these days.
It's not just money. It will happen in other scientific areas without the evil "big pharma" interests to skew results into false positives. If you find that men are more likely than women to hit the car horn when someone cuts in front of them, you're more likely to be published than if you had found it's about the same.
This is so very important! Replication or REPEATABILITY is one of the cornerstones of science. I’m a PhD student in geoscience/engineering and I find it so frustrating when I read papers and am not able to replicate even elementary results in the lab. Unfortunately, full scale replication is a very technically complex, time consuming, and expensive process. It is going to be to be impossible to do replication without heavy incentives. And currently incentives are basically a BIG ZERO! All of the emphasis is on novelty! We need to fix this across the board. Not just in medicine. (And no, this doesn’t excuse people for being anti-science! Plenty of great work out there.)
The problem is the fact that each person is genetically and epigeneticly different. Foods, environmental exposures such as mold/metals/chemicals, birth and infancy factors such as feedings, conditions in the womb, allergens/sensitivities/blood types, and social situations all play a massive role in addition to genetics. Trials never consider those variables, sadly. Microbiome is crucial and is highly individualized. Sadly, the approach of the standard medical community completely disregards the most important aspect of our bodies, the digestive system. It indeed does matter. Even Hippocrates knew that. Functional Medicine has far more of a clue than our standard medical community.
hello, could you please have a look at this study and tell me what you think, thanks Inhibition of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus replication in a lethal SARS-CoV BALB/c mouse model by stinging nettle lectin, Urtica dioica agglutinin www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3085190/
Laura Willingham yes, yes, yes!!!! So glad to read this comment... I actually had to recheck (username) that i hadn’t written it at another time 😂 I’ve written very similar comments. I used to work in a hospital... I remember my epidemiology class lit something in me, I had the planting of the idea that “results” could really be anything. Everyone is an individual in multifaceted ways. We can’t ever test/study each type with every pharmaceutical, with every potential diet, environment, genetic makeup and the potential billion combos. I’ve said for a while, we are all guinea pigs. Always. We really never know. Additionally, there ARE people who are epigenetically susceptible to many environmental triggers, INCLUDING vaccines. Not that vaccines will damage all of them. But that they are the canaries in the coal mine...and we aren’t acting as if that’s possible .
Thank you for sharing such an insightful talk, it's intriguing to see professional bodies standing up and sharing the truth with regards to suppressed research findings and more 👏
Hero for what by showing fear is real and he knows he a pee in a pot and people laughing at him like he's crazy. worse 2020 and on. We see Doctor it's our fault these days.
@@onewiselady6412 I am so very sorry for your and your family's loss. I can't imagine how difficult it must be for you all. I pray comfort and strength as you continue to walk through this very sad loss.
An SSRI adverse reaction almost killed me in 2006. Serotonin Syndrome....but my doctor wanted to blame an "underlying condition" at first. Now I know high numbers of people have died or suffered brain damage from these prescription drugs. Yet, the marketed induced paradigm is that these drugs are safe.
@wdtony. How are you doing today? I was disabled by an SSRI and know many who have also had horrible experiences, permanent disabilities including brain damage, and many who died. WMD. I hope you are doing ok.
@@beannamated I'm so sorry. I'm thinking of dropping the rest of my meds. I dropped lamprogine. Because I kept forgetting things. I kept losing balance, and getting severe headaches. And that's not including sleep issues.
“Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” ― Eric Hoffer, The Temper of Our Time. So it is with modern medicine.
What I found out recently shocked me. When testing a drug, or other substances, on rats the researchers can use different types of rats which can lead to different results. I was quite surprised as it can be used to give you more favourable results.
Those rat has very high replication of cells, which means that they recover easily from damage done by drugs. The tradeoff is that the rats all die of cancer (lots of cell replication) The rats are breaded to have those characteristics, which means that drugs tested on them show way less damage and help the cosmetics and pharma industry push those products to market faster. For sure, the lab will keep on buying the ’good’ rats that produce the results they want.
Truth is not about having the balls, it's about having the respect for what you do and what you believe in so that others know the truth. Nothing about having balls.
I completely agree with speaker Ben Goldacre and his informational talk on the issue of publication bias. Publication bias can be especially dangerous when viewed through the lens of medical ethics. When doctors look at prescribing medications, especially medications that are new to the market, most of them strive to be as informed as possible about the medication’s effectiveness, benefits, and risks. They operate under the premise of non-maleficence - to “do-no-harm” - and yet despite their best efforts, if the information that they need is not published, they will unintentionally have a skewed view of the medication they prescribe. This is worrying considering that the trials with negative results that do not get published are likely to be the most transparent and informational resource about the medication’s negative side effects. Even in the tragic situation that the medication’s risky benefits outweigh all the negative side effects, doctors are ill-equipped to monitor their patients for the appropriate warning signs of any serious complications, all because these journals favor positive results over negative. Publication bias also makes it impossible for doctors to protect a patient’s autonomy. Doctors strive to abide by the ethical principle of autonomy, where it is their duty to provide each patient with the best chance of making well-informed decisions about their health care. However, if accurate, transparent information is not available to inform a doctor of a medication’s risks and side effects, they in turn cannot give their patients a clear, well-informed choice either. While I understand the excitement of positive test results and the forward momentum of innovation they provide to the scientific community, our progress is meaningless if we ever let our strive for discovery outpace our sense of humanity.
Very true Dr. Ben. This is all due to the 'greed' the pharma industry thrives on. As of today, with the race to develop the COVID-19 vaccine, I'm not sure whether really there would be a 'vaccine' or the immunity wonder within all works the real wonders. Does vaccine really works on viruses?
This has been going on for years. I had a professor whose work, which was damning to the testing industry (academic testing), could never get his research published in the more popular journals. He was widely regarded as an authority in his field, but journal gatekeepers are free to accept or reject the research they choose. We now know that tests do not predict future performance in school and that the best predictor of future academic success is indeed past level of academic attainment.
Antuan Clamaran Exactly, which is why I don’t get it when people say doctors try to “kill us” when I was younger I got diagnosed with pre diabetes and the doctor told me to eat once a day, exercise and stay away from fruits and try to eat as many vegetables as I can and prescribed 200mg of metformin , following her orders I lost 40lbs and got rid of the pre diabetes, the only doctors who are actually “out to get us” are the ones who prescribe medications every visit.
@@GreenLakes1 It varies wildly, from doctor to doctor, from country to country etc. Since governments aren't doing a great job caring for the people's health, it's up to each individual to educate himself and care for his own health.
I’m a survivor of protracted acute withdrawal syndrome from and SSRI. I was injured because Doctors were never taught at med school how to get people off these drugs slowly and safely. This information isn’t well known yet however I hope doctors learn quickly because there are many people suffering and becoming very sick. Love and peace for those going through prescription drug withdrawals 🙏🏻❤️🇦🇺
I watched some of his other videos, and he does seem like a nice guy, but I've had mental health problem all of my life, and I'm 41 now so I've encountered many psychiatrists, and they tend to be a very nasty lot. If you'd ever been in psych wards, you'd know that shrinks treat patients like criminals. No other doctors treat patients as if they're to blame for their illnesses.
If you aren't familiar with Mad in America by Robert Whitaker, it's a good place to start regarding this subject and connect with others of like mind and experience.
This is one of the reasons I avoid doctors and any prescribed drugs and other 'medicine' wherever possible. Unless you're seriously ill there is always a way to treat it with something that comes from nature, by eating more of something, or less of something, or applying something that comes direct from something that grows naturally, or just by ignoring it as best as possible and letting your body fix it, and so being better suited to resist it next time.
That's a very flawed theory, every other animal on the planet suffer from and die from the same illnesses that humans do. And the only ones that ever see a doctor are the ones being cared for by humans.
I'm a pharmacy student, well aware of the multi-tiered criticism of SSRIs. I was having some trouble with mental health and after practically begging with a psychiatrist, and staff at my uni, i still am being forced by the university to follow his orders and take a course of citalopram. It's been incredibly stressful, i feel completely impotent in my own care and the credibility i've worked hard for has been completely ignored. I'm going to have to lie to the mental health staff and tell them i'm taking my medication, i feel dishonest and feel that my care has been completely compromised by this, my depression and self-esteem has never been worse. I understand there are billions (even trillions) of pounds at stake for the pharmaceutical companies, but I wonder if they have some excuse for their behaviour, or if they simply don't think about it. They deserve to have their noses rubbed in every life they've affected or cost
The excuse is "there are billions (even trillions) of pounds at stake for the pharmaceutical companies." It justifies everything they do. Truth doesn't matter when money is at stake.
Thank you Mr. Goldacre for providing this information. Many people are willing to trust certain institutions/organizations, forgetting that all institutions are susceptible to corruption, whether public or private. I hope that this wakes up millions!
I searched about this topic because i came across the book death by prescription....people don’t think this is subject of concern unless they affect by this
This Ted Talk was both frightening and eye opening to me as a physician in training. When prescribing medicine, we have a duty to patient autonomy and beneficence in each patient encounter. This would mean we present all the information in an unbiased way to allow patients to make informed decisions about their own medical care, as well as illustrate and work with them to weigh the risks and benefits of each procedural avenue. Medical research is the cornerstone that allows us to provide this information for safety and efficacy, but in this lecture we learn that scientific and medical journals, as well as the researchers themselves, may be engaging in unethical scientific practices that unravel this trust between lab and clinic. Ben shares many instances about negative results being suppressed or completely ignored in order to construct a positive outcome for the research team and journal. A positive outcome for a clinical trial can lead to exorbitant financial gain, or status and recognition in the scientific community for the lab and investigators. There is certainly a pressure to find positive results, but here we see that this pressure has overridden the ethical duty of honesty and transparency we so desperately need as physicians. We can only operate with the information we are given, and if negative side effects are suppressed as discussed here, we are by proxy not upholding beneficence ourselves. But what else can we do? How are we supposed to know if the information we trust has been construed for selfish benefit? The COVID-19 vaccination campaign and pandemic policy has unfortunately hindered the community’s trust in both research and medical institutions. This Ted Talk provides reasonable ground for those hesitancies. I myself as a physician in training was skeptical of propaganda and confusing encouragement for vaccine recommendations for young and pregnant individuals when there was not enough data to support efficacy or safety profile. It was easy to see that there may be financial pressures by pharma companies placed upon laboratories or government personnel. I think we may discover that a similar offense as discussed in this talk has occurred in the COVID-19 vaccine story. I think serious penalties need to be in place for labs and journals who are dishonest in their publications and the fault for adverse side effects from prescriptions if not published should not fall at the feet of the physicians.
Please look up Dr. David Healy. He will tell you the truth about how pharma conducts clinical trials. Hint: fraud, deception, manipulated statistics, straight up lies dressed up in marketing-speak
I have chronic insomnia. The doctor prescribed an anti psychotic for sleep. I researched the drug and it could be prescribed, off label to patients with a history of serious psychiatric issues. I took it to a pharmacist friend who, was very alarmed. He asked for the script, called the doctor, and, proceeded to blast her. He said she could have caused serious to me and commended me for researching first and, informing him. I’m done with doctors unless absolutely necessary.
To all the people who think this video is in favour of untested herbal medicine here is a quote from Ben Goldacre himself "Just just because there are flaws in aircraft design that doesn't mean flying carpets exist."
I'm just an undergraduate student who amaze to what he talk about, and this absolutely true, In the place i'm study at, you can't even pass your final essay if your research result negative
Henry Ibbs These are not errors, Pharmaceutical companies are driven by profit not honesty. And even if we were talking about errors, this is serious stuff. It is at least inappropriate, cynical at the most, to state that 'humans err'.
Henry Ibbs I took your expression as an exoneration, as if you were downplaying the seriousness of this. It is stills sounds mild to me to call this an 'error', no matter what the dictionary says. Fraud implies an awareness, a deliberateness that is not present in the word 'error' or 'mistake'. In any case, if you agree on the gravity of these crimes, then definitions are secondary. And it sounded 'cynical' not naive. Cynicism implies awareness, again, as in fraud. Calling yourself naive really would imply that you are not aware of the main elementary forces the govern society and human behavior. That would be very, very naive. That's why it sounded cynical to me, just because of a matter of probability and common sense.
Jazzy, take it from a guy with a family of not just physicians, but surgeons and field specialists. They do not have integrity for their profession. Whereas most professionals know something about everything, and where it came from and why.. I've found the medical field is a lot more about dry procedure. In fact, I developed tinnitus and saw three specialists who said it was not curable. It took me two years but i narrowed it down to certain preservatives, mainly nitrates and phosphates. After a certain amount, my ears act up big time in the form of bad ringing that will last for days. When i first got it i was devouring souvlakis daily, and these are heavily nitrated for restaurant storage. Tell me, why did i figure it out for myself, whereas the word preservative was not even mentioned once as a possibility? Most questions to people in the field are answered with "I don't know." In the case of eye floaters, most opto doctors will tell you the laser doesn't work. And yet, there they are, right on youtube. A guy getting his floaters laser treated before our very eyes. Perhaps the procedure has its risks, perhaps the results vary, but the answer from 90% of their community of professionals is a flat out "Can't be done." The next time a doctor tells you something, don't thank him for his advice, ask him why he feels that way.
More relevant over the past two years than any time previously. This entire pandemic has been a complete failure of the medical establishment. They have burnt all credibility that they will never recover with their negligence.
As a graduate student I must admit my fellow students and I always joke how we wish there was a journal of negative results. We could all have multiple publications already!!!
you know, I'm no doctor, but I have dealt with many of them, and I have observed this to be a huge problem. Hopefully on this platform, we can get it fixed and his suggestion to fix is practical and doable in this information age.
Ben pointed out what some may say the obvious. Its all down to incentives. If we live in a capitalist system where profit is the ultimate goal, how can anyone expect a different outcome (in medicine or any other field)? Let's be honest and admit we'd all do the same if we were chairing the FDA, SEC, CDC, FED or any other supervising institution. Not saying communism or socialism is the answer .. but this is the other side of capitalism we have to live with
I think things like health and education, among others, should be left to governments. They are just too important to be left to greedy corporates who prioritize profit over the general good.
A vita role of government should be to correct bad incentive structures. Unfortunately, politics usually makes that seemingly impossible to do consistently well.
Why do we live in a world where so many people have become greedy and have their own interests at heart; instead of caring for the effects this has on communities worldwide? Pharmaceutical companies should be wanting to help people and make a difference in people's lives, not exploiting them. I chose to study Medicine as I truly care for and want to help others live a better life.
It takes far more courage to be able to change one's view than stay the same regardless of damning evidence against it. Good on him for bringing it to our attention.
@@onewiselady6412 I am so very sorry to hear such tragic news about your husband. This should never have had to happen to him - or to you his wife... We will keep fighting this, it has to stop. Justice must prevail! In the UK since yesterday there has been a small but key change, really a slight improvement: there is now more advice available to GPs about psych drug withdrawal, which means their inability to react to that advice will no longer be based on their ignorance..What they do with that extra long-needed info though is for now down to them, some will do good with it and some perhaps not. It feels like a step in the right direction hopefully..Baby steps.. The fight will not stop however, I want to reassure you of that. Sending you warm thoughts and solidarity ❤
there's no money in healthy people. sick people keep coming back. that's why we need to stop putting our wellness in the hands of THEM, and heal ourselves✨
Rankings of trial sponsors by 'silent trial rate' For example, AstraZeneca had 132 trials, of which 26 were silent - their silent trial rate is thus 19.7%. On the other hand, Astellas Pharma Inc had 77 trials (of which 58 were silent) making their silent trial rate 75.3%. STUDY: Huser V, Cimino JJ (2013) Linking ClinicalTrials.gov and PubMed to Track Results of Interventional Human Clinical Trials. PLoS ONE 2013 doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0068409 (or search for 'trialome' on wikipedia or web)
Governments should do the testing. Drug companies should pay for it. They might farm out the work. If a testing company is caught cheating it gets a fine and no more contracts. putting it out of business.
@@malakeet it was in an article written by a previous editor of BMJ, cant remember when i read it. Apparently something like (dont quote me) 1/3 of their income was drug companies buying reprints of (favourable) articles for distribution to doctors and was cited as contributing to why they are reluctant to publish unfavourable papers (ie no orders for copies of those)
Good discussion. Causes? The first one that most easily comes to mind is money. Beyond publishing all studies, there might be a more comprehensive look at hiw the money flows from all this. How do people become so biased? This happens in far more than medical journals. Often we only see what we want to - Happens in the car business all the time.
I think negative findings are useful. Even if the results negate your hypothesis, they tell you what is a dead end (provided you conducted a experiment in a reliable fashion). And so I've learned to enjoy the more concrete negative findings over getting inconclusive (aka inconsistent) results. I hope that journals will realize that both negative and positive findings contribute to the progress of science... But I can see why implementing it might have its complications.
These biases in medicines is even worse if you happen to be female. Most human test trials are done on males because female bodies are more complicated with their hormones and the risks of pregnancy.
Its unfortunate but male and female bodies are more similar than different not to say theres no difference at all but it isnt as big of a deal. Id argue men because many drugs dont work on male bodies to be exact amd males have higher illness and death rates its logicsl to want to test on males and see how effective drugs are not saying women dont matter but its about the overall picture of treatment. Males have a more delicate biology that requires more treatment overall and thus are better for knowing whether a drug works or not
This Ted talk had very good ideas, especially when looking at a Doctors Oath to “do no harm”. The most important wording the speaker used was near the end of his talk: once research gets to a level where we are at human trials, we need to do better at publishing negative results. In thinking from an ethical point of view, that would allow justice and non-maleficence to not be robbed from patients. There are many things I disagree on the matter of publishing negative research as well. There is so much testing and trials that happen for these human studies to come to fruition, and if the medical community was flooded with research published both positive and negative alike, it would be a very daunting task with analyzing, and using tactics like meta-analysis’, to filter out the bad from the good. I also think that once researchers don’t get a result they want, they don’t continue to research it to finish the publication. Besides that, this Ted talk title is also a misnomer as I feel that Doctors do know what drugs they are prescribing. If I went to a doctor who didn’t know what he was prescribing, I would not even consider going through with the treatment. There are new drugs that come on the market and those drugs are ones I feel Doctors are even more worried to prescribe or use for their patients. From a beneficence point of view, Doctors really do want to do what is best for their patients and that includes educating them on side effects of treatments.
I'm miserable because i'm forced to take "antipsychotic injections" called abilify. Ive gained 60lbs in two months. I now have anxiety, depression and sm always sleepy and tired. Im not accountable to my actions because this isnt the actual me, im being stifled and suffocated
Goldacre makes very valid points - which are to do with the consequences of conflicts of interests, and the negative consequences for patients. However, there is a much more serious problem at the moment. The bulk of the medical profession (along with the public) still believes that you can treat chronic diseases by changing the bio chemisrty of the body. I think drugs & surgery have an amazing influence on positive outcomes in many accute situations, but not in chronic illnesses that are a result of poor nutrition and lifestyle - the bulk of sickness today is due to this. Eating a varied whole plant based diet, low fat, low salt - along with strength/cardio/flexibility training and meditation along with a healthy social life will eliminate much of the chronic disease that we have today. Trying to fix these diseases by changing the bio chemistry using drugs is quackery at its worst.
@@mo-om they can't cure type 1 diabetes but they can help manage the chronic condition. They can aid in the weight loss and reversal of insulin sensitivity that can cure type 2 diabetes if caught early enough.
@@mo-om without these "chemicals" (read: naturally derived and then refined substances that act on pre-existing structures within the body in the same way as endogenous structures) many people would die or have their quality of life drastically reduced. Many people DO die because of lack of access to medical care. Please learn about how medicines work before coming for them lmao
@@amoriicovers I am all for what works be it herb or "chemicals". There is no point mocking people (as was done by the previous commenter) because they prefer certain types of medications. People have lived for thousands of years and used those treatments that have now been relegated to "alternative forms of medication". There is a wealth of knowledge on this type of medication and people are probably better off looking into these again rather relying on profit-hungry corporates who lie, cheat and conceal in order to get a drug to market without worrying about how people are affected. I know this would be termed as "anecdotal" but I haven't been to hospital or taken any drug for the last five years. All I had to do was be more conscious of what went into my body and tried to stay fit. The few times I got a little sick, I just used some local herbs and I got well. What I have seen people do is just bash alternative medicine and call people names. That is totally unnecessary. So much for your "evidence based medicine". We can see right through the bad science now. I have no problem taking any medicine as long as it would work. Am just not sure I can trust corporates with my health or the health of my family. Not after watching this anyway.
We need him now. More than ever. So many are fooled by what science is, what peer review means, and the publishing system.
I'm surprised people are allowed to say this these days with all the suppression going on.
@@Madmarsha True. Antivaxxers have been trying to silence the data. Just like Exxon did back in the day, which is a problem up to this day. The publishing structure is just a sidetrack. Keep in mind this talk is TEN years old. And yes, medicine in the US (FDA is US only) is bonkers, it isn't trusted anywhere near the world stage.
You’re not wrong. I posted a video like this on a WhatsApp group, got ejected from the group, and contacted by police after I texted the person. We are turning into a corrupt police state. It’s like 1984 come true!
@@Madmarsha More like "oppression" & "censorship" than "suppression" but I got the gist.
AMEN
It's more than not publishing negative results, it's suppressing results.
exactly...
If there's a culture of publishing negative results it will be harder to suppress results.
Fife and others had Cancer CURES in the 1930's. They had their research labs destroyed and facts trashed!!!!
It's not just negative results that are suppressed.
But also traditional/natural approaches.
Approaches used when there was more health. (And very few heart attacks.)
It all means sickness benefits is crowded.
But health benefits is a good opportunity.
@Wilson Pablo care about what?
Somewhere along the line we lost sight of what science is and instead have focused on what sells.
Matt Gilbert It is the money. When money encounters science, or politics, or religion, or anything else, things get turned away from where they should be headed. Money may be the root of all evil, as the saying goes, but we all know that money is a rampant force in everything these days.
It's not just money. It will happen in other scientific areas without the evil "big pharma" interests to skew results into false positives. If you find that men are more likely than women to hit the car horn when someone cuts in front of them, you're more likely to be published than if you had found it's about the same.
Damn straight
Couldn't have said it any better!
Only human. stinks and man will out smart him self
oh well... we all live in the world full of corruption. I'm glad not everyone is blind...
this guy is a hero
And amazing hair!
Sure is mate 👍🏻👍🏻🇦🇺
@@brendansmyth5053vanished during covid - my working hypothesis: - cowardy custard
This is so very important! Replication or REPEATABILITY is one of the cornerstones of science. I’m a PhD student in geoscience/engineering and I find it so frustrating when I read papers and am not able to replicate even elementary results in the lab. Unfortunately, full scale replication is a very technically complex, time consuming, and expensive process. It is going to be to be impossible to do replication without heavy incentives. And currently incentives are basically a BIG ZERO! All of the emphasis is on novelty! We need to fix this across the board. Not just in medicine.
(And no, this doesn’t excuse people for being anti-science! Plenty of great work out there.)
The problem is the fact that each person is genetically and epigeneticly different. Foods, environmental exposures such as mold/metals/chemicals, birth and infancy factors such as feedings, conditions in the womb, allergens/sensitivities/blood types, and social situations all play a massive role in addition to genetics. Trials never consider those variables, sadly. Microbiome is crucial and is highly individualized. Sadly, the approach of the standard medical community completely disregards the most important aspect of our bodies, the digestive system. It indeed does matter. Even Hippocrates knew that. Functional Medicine has far more of a clue than our standard medical community.
hello, could you please have a look at this study and tell me what you think, thanks
Inhibition of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus replication in a lethal SARS-CoV BALB/c mouse model by stinging nettle lectin, Urtica dioica agglutinin
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3085190/
Laura Willingham yes, yes, yes!!!! So glad to read this comment... I actually had to recheck (username) that i hadn’t written it at another time 😂
I’ve written very similar comments.
I used to work in a hospital... I remember my epidemiology class lit something in me, I had the planting of the idea that “results” could really be anything.
Everyone is an individual in multifaceted ways. We can’t ever test/study each type with every pharmaceutical, with every potential diet, environment, genetic makeup and the potential billion combos.
I’ve said for a while, we are all guinea pigs. Always. We really never know.
Additionally, there ARE people who are epigenetically susceptible to many environmental triggers, INCLUDING vaccines. Not that vaccines will damage all of them. But that they are the canaries in the coal mine...and we aren’t acting as if that’s possible .
@@sawtoothiandi 5-6 year old video and your high standards don't mind ?
@@trafficjon400 sorry, i dont understand what you mean?
Hiding information and research bias has taken on untold heights with COVID-19.
THIS! i am SO over the propaganda.
The statement that 100,000 people died as a result of the testing of one drug literally had me crying. This is a horrible thing that is happening.
Testing died from cancer and agent 47 had plenty of 💔 covers to cover it 😂
People have no idea how big of a scumbag some doctors are. No clue.
This video is more valid now than ever. Thank you Bret Weinstein for directing me to it
Thank you for sharing such an insightful talk, it's intriguing to see professional bodies standing up and sharing the truth with regards to suppressed research findings and more 👏
Still one of my absolute favorite of ALL the TedTalks I've seen. Just a genius. A freakin hero.
Hero for what by showing fear is real and he knows he a pee in a pot and people laughing at him like he's crazy. worse 2020 and on. We see Doctor it's our fault these days.
Youre a left wing nut
@@trafficjon400 if that's all you got out of it, please rewatch.
@@beannamated My Comments below might say a little more. a little of it . he is a sharp cooky .
And as of September 2019, it still hasn't been "fixed", sadly.
Laura Willingham
No it’s has not
I’m so bloody mad
My husband died by suicide 4 years ago and was prescribed ZOLOFT - one of the worst
What makes ya think its going too? 2020
Not yet 7/21
@@onewiselady6412 I am so very sorry for your and your family's loss. I can't imagine how difficult it must be for you all. I pray comfort and strength as you continue to walk through this very sad loss.
@@laurawillingham1965 wow
Thankyou for such a lovely comment ❤️
An SSRI adverse reaction almost killed me in 2006. Serotonin Syndrome....but my doctor wanted to blame an "underlying condition" at first. Now I know high numbers of people have died or suffered brain damage from these prescription drugs. Yet, the marketed induced paradigm is that these drugs are safe.
@wdtony. How are you doing today? I was disabled by an SSRI and know many who have also had horrible experiences, permanent disabilities including brain damage, and many who died. WMD.
I hope you are doing ok.
@@beannamated
Better than the first 3 years. But still have major damage to my CNS and Blood Brain Barrier.
Psychiatry is fucking evil.
@@beannamated I'm so sorry. I'm thinking of dropping the rest of my meds. I dropped lamprogine. Because I kept forgetting things. I kept losing balance, and getting severe headaches. And that's not including sleep issues.
“Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.”
― Eric Hoffer, The Temper of Our Time. So it is with modern medicine.
This guys has another great TED called "Ben Goldacre: Battling Bad Science"
What I found out recently shocked me. When testing a drug, or other substances, on rats the researchers can use different types of rats which can lead to different results. I was quite surprised as it can be used to give you more favourable results.
you can try multiple animals until you find the best to actually conduct the studies
Those rat has very high replication of cells, which means that they recover easily from damage done by drugs. The tradeoff is that the rats all die of cancer (lots of cell replication)
The rats are breaded to have those characteristics, which means that drugs tested on them show way less damage and help the cosmetics and pharma industry push those products to market faster.
For sure, the lab will keep on buying the ’good’ rats that produce the results they want.
They also remove the test subjects, rat's, if they don't get the result they want it all of them.
At vaccine testing, using placebo is not necessary.
this guy's got balls
How so? A lot of people who care about evidence-based medicine have been vocal on this issue.
Truth is not about having the balls, it's about having the respect for what you do and what you believe in so that others know the truth. Nothing about having balls.
Franky Duks he stands up to dragons , metaphorically speaking and spares no field his arguments. I am thankful for every day he lives.
He doesn’t. He won’t speak out about the PACE trial because his boss was the architect Simon Wessley
medicine balls
I completely agree with speaker Ben Goldacre and his informational talk on the issue of publication bias. Publication bias can be especially dangerous when viewed through the lens of medical ethics.
When doctors look at prescribing medications, especially medications that are new to the market, most of them strive to be as informed as possible about the medication’s effectiveness, benefits, and risks. They operate under the premise of non-maleficence - to “do-no-harm” - and yet despite their best efforts, if the information that they need is not published, they will unintentionally have a skewed view of the medication they prescribe. This is worrying considering that the trials with negative results that do not get published are likely to be the most transparent and informational resource about the medication’s negative side effects. Even in the tragic situation that the medication’s risky benefits outweigh all the negative side effects, doctors are ill-equipped to monitor their patients for the appropriate warning signs of any serious complications, all because these journals favor positive results over negative.
Publication bias also makes it impossible for doctors to protect a patient’s autonomy. Doctors strive to abide by the ethical principle of autonomy, where it is their duty to provide each patient with the best chance of making well-informed decisions about their health care. However, if accurate, transparent information is not available to inform a doctor of a medication’s risks and side effects, they in turn cannot give their patients a clear, well-informed choice either.
While I understand the excitement of positive test results and the forward momentum of innovation they provide to the scientific community, our progress is meaningless if we ever let our strive for discovery outpace our sense of humanity.
Its nice to see someone with credibility saying what me and others have been saying for 20+ years.
You and others had kind of the sam credibility, actually.
Stupid ones didnt understand you. Dont understand life around them...
One of the most important videos on youtube.
Checking in during the middle of 2021, it's fascinating the foreshadowing we have missed
Very true Dr. Ben. This is all due to the 'greed' the pharma industry thrives on. As of today, with the race to develop the COVID-19 vaccine, I'm not sure whether really there would be a 'vaccine' or the immunity wonder within all works the real wonders. Does vaccine really works on viruses?
Vaccines are safe. Covid kills. Depends on the drug
I recommend the book Good-Bye Germ Theory, it will answer that question.
Spoiler: No it doesn’t help at all!
This has been going on for years. I had a professor whose work, which was damning to the testing industry (academic testing), could never get his research published in the more popular journals. He was widely regarded as an authority in his field, but journal gatekeepers are free to accept or reject the research they choose.
We now know that tests do not predict future performance in school and that the best predictor of future academic success is indeed past level of academic attainment.
I told my mom (a cardiologist) and she said that she knew this was going on. That’s why she tries to prescribe alternatives to medication.
What kind of alternatives to medication ?
@@antuanclamaran1205 water fasting, eating better/cleaner etc, i'm going to be a nurse practitioner when I get older.
@@GreenLakes1 Eating healthier food + Exercising + Eating less (if overweight) are always good, especially if you do all three.
Antuan Clamaran Exactly, which is why I don’t get it when people say doctors try to “kill us” when I was younger I got diagnosed with pre diabetes and the doctor told me to eat once a day, exercise and stay away from fruits and try to eat as many vegetables as I can and prescribed 200mg of metformin , following her orders I lost 40lbs and got rid of the pre diabetes, the only doctors who are actually “out to get us” are the ones who prescribe medications every visit.
@@GreenLakes1 It varies wildly, from doctor to doctor, from country to country etc. Since governments aren't doing a great job caring for the people's health, it's up to each individual to educate himself and care for his own health.
Even more relevant today than 9 years ago when this video came out
Hard to believe TED published this.
I love this man so much. For so many reasons. I could listen to him speak for days on end.
I’m a survivor of protracted acute withdrawal syndrome from and SSRI. I was injured because Doctors were never taught at med school how to get people off these drugs slowly and safely. This information isn’t well known yet however I hope doctors learn quickly because there are many people suffering and becoming very sick. Love and peace for those going through prescription drug withdrawals 🙏🏻❤️🇦🇺
I watched some of his other videos, and he does seem like a nice guy, but I've had mental health problem all of my life, and I'm 41 now so I've encountered many psychiatrists, and they tend to be a very nasty lot. If you'd ever been in psych wards, you'd know that shrinks treat patients like criminals. No other doctors treat patients as if they're to blame for their illnesses.
If you aren't familiar with Mad in America by Robert Whitaker, it's a good place to start regarding this subject and connect with others of like mind and experience.
Plz, plz, plz never stop. How in the world can u not want this practice to end IMMEDIATELY. And a million thx for exposing this. We need more like u.
Sadly he did stop - during the covid disaster
This is one of the reasons I avoid doctors and any prescribed drugs and other 'medicine' wherever possible. Unless you're seriously ill there is always a way to treat it with something that comes from nature, by eating more of something, or less of something, or applying something that comes direct from something that grows naturally, or just by ignoring it as best as possible and letting your body fix it, and so being better suited to resist it next time.
That's a very flawed theory, every other animal on the planet suffer from and die from the same illnesses that humans do.
And the only ones that ever see a doctor are the ones being cared for by humans.
That's true.
any updates to this issue?
I'm a pharmacy student, well aware of the multi-tiered criticism of SSRIs. I was having some trouble with mental health and after practically begging with a psychiatrist, and staff at my uni, i still am being forced by the university to follow his orders and take a course of citalopram. It's been incredibly stressful, i feel completely impotent in my own care and the credibility i've worked hard for has been completely ignored. I'm going to have to lie to the mental health staff and tell them i'm taking my medication, i feel dishonest and feel that my care has been completely compromised by this, my depression and self-esteem has never been worse. I understand there are billions (even trillions) of pounds at stake for the pharmaceutical companies, but I wonder if they have some excuse for their behaviour, or if they simply don't think about it. They deserve to have their noses rubbed in every life they've affected or cost
The excuse is "there are billions (even trillions) of pounds at stake for the pharmaceutical companies." It justifies everything they do. Truth doesn't matter when money is at stake.
www.ssristories.net
they dont care at all.
I was forced antipsychotic drug and caused breast enlargements and weight gain
I was forced antipsychotic drug and caused breast enlargements and weight gain
Thank you Mr. Goldacre for providing this information. Many people are willing to trust certain institutions/organizations, forgetting that all institutions are susceptible to corruption, whether public or private. I hope that this wakes up millions!
Ben you have the coolness of Marty McFly from Back to the Future and Doctor Who. Keep up the nerdy science!
I searched about this topic because i came across the book death by prescription....people don’t think this is subject of concern unless they affect by this
Thank you. Keep up the good work. 13 years in Cardiac Research.
This Ted Talk was both frightening and eye opening to me as a physician in training. When prescribing medicine, we have a duty to patient autonomy and beneficence in each patient encounter. This would mean we present all the information in an unbiased way to allow patients to make informed decisions about their own medical care, as well as illustrate and work with them to weigh the risks and benefits of each procedural avenue. Medical research is the cornerstone that allows us to provide this information for safety and efficacy, but in this lecture we learn that scientific and medical journals, as well as the researchers themselves, may be engaging in unethical scientific practices that unravel this trust between lab and clinic. Ben shares many instances about negative results being suppressed or completely ignored in order to construct a positive outcome for the research team and journal. A positive outcome for a clinical trial can lead to exorbitant financial gain, or status and recognition in the scientific community for the lab and investigators. There is certainly a pressure to find positive results, but here we see that this pressure has overridden the ethical duty of honesty and transparency we so desperately need as physicians. We can only operate with the information we are given, and if negative side effects are suppressed as discussed here, we are by proxy not upholding beneficence ourselves. But what else can we do? How are we supposed to know if the information we trust has been construed for selfish benefit? The COVID-19 vaccination campaign and pandemic policy has unfortunately hindered the community’s trust in both research and medical institutions. This Ted Talk provides reasonable ground for those hesitancies. I myself as a physician in training was skeptical of propaganda and confusing encouragement for vaccine recommendations for young and pregnant individuals when there was not enough data to support efficacy or safety profile. It was easy to see that there may be financial pressures by pharma companies placed upon laboratories or government personnel. I think we may discover that a similar offense as discussed in this talk has occurred in the COVID-19 vaccine story. I think serious penalties need to be in place for labs and journals who are dishonest in their publications and the fault for adverse side effects from prescriptions if not published should not fall at the feet of the physicians.
Please look up Dr. David Healy. He will tell you the truth about how pharma conducts clinical trials.
Hint: fraud, deception, manipulated statistics, straight up lies dressed up in marketing-speak
it's all so clear and plain as day. there is no reason left for all doctors to not know this. They must want to hurt people
I have chronic insomnia. The doctor prescribed an anti psychotic for sleep. I researched the drug and it could be prescribed, off label to patients with a history of serious psychiatric issues. I took it to a pharmacist friend who, was very alarmed. He asked for the script, called the doctor, and, proceeded to blast her. He said she could have caused serious to me and commended me for researching first and, informing him. I’m done with doctors unless absolutely necessary.
To all the people who think this video is in favour of untested herbal medicine here is a quote from Ben Goldacre himself "Just just because there are flaws in aircraft design that doesn't mean flying carpets exist."
He is a funny guy
Relevant today
I wish he had not been silent the past 2 years 😞
He works with Carl hennigan and would know sunetra gupta I think: how could he have stayed silent?
I'm just an undergraduate student who amaze to what he talk about, and this absolutely true,
In the place i'm study at, you can't even pass your final essay if your research result negative
studying medicine, this provided a useful insight. thanks for sharing.
People need to see this
After watching this video, it's clear to me that integrity and wisdom are rare values particularly in the field of medicine and corporate world..
Henry Ibbs and to commit crimes is human, too. Nice logic.
Henry Ibbs Can you be more cynical?
Henry Ibbs These are not errors, Pharmaceutical companies are driven by profit not honesty. And even if we were talking about errors, this is serious stuff. It is at least inappropriate, cynical at the most, to state that 'humans err'.
Henry Ibbs I took your expression as an exoneration, as if you were downplaying the seriousness of this. It is stills sounds mild to me to call this an 'error', no matter what the dictionary says. Fraud implies an awareness, a deliberateness that is not present in the word 'error' or 'mistake'. In any case, if you agree on the gravity of these crimes, then definitions are secondary.
And it sounded 'cynical' not naive. Cynicism implies awareness, again, as in fraud. Calling yourself naive really would imply that you are not aware of the main elementary forces the govern society and human behavior. That would be very, very naive. That's why it sounded cynical to me, just because of a matter of probability and common sense.
Jazzy, take it from a guy with a family of not just physicians, but surgeons and field specialists. They do not have integrity for their profession. Whereas most professionals know something about everything, and where it came from and why.. I've found the medical field is a lot more about dry procedure. In fact, I developed tinnitus and saw three specialists who said it was not curable. It took me two years but i narrowed it down to certain preservatives, mainly nitrates and phosphates. After a certain amount, my ears act up big time in the form of bad ringing that will last for days. When i first got it i was devouring souvlakis daily, and these are heavily nitrated for restaurant storage. Tell me, why did i figure it out for myself, whereas the word preservative was not even mentioned once as a possibility? Most questions to people in the field are answered with "I don't know." In the case of eye floaters, most opto doctors will tell you the laser doesn't work. And yet, there they are, right on youtube. A guy getting his floaters laser treated before our very eyes. Perhaps the procedure has its risks, perhaps the results vary, but the answer from 90% of their community of professionals is a flat out "Can't be done." The next time a doctor tells you something, don't thank him for his advice, ask him why he feels that way.
So, what's the current status of this issue?
More relevant over the past two years than any time previously.
This entire pandemic has been a complete failure of the medical establishment. They have burnt all credibility that they will never recover with their negligence.
🎯🎯🎯. And many people STILL buy into it.
@@beannamated stupid sheeple can't be taught
Everyone needs to watch this today.
I love science, just can’t trust the scientists sometimes
Wow! How timely is this video?
As a graduate student I must admit my fellow students and I always joke how we wish there was a journal of negative results. We could all have multiple publications already!!!
Great idea
Oh, hm... similar sentiments on current events as well. Fear can make people nearly do anything. That's what government and big pharma work in.
you know, I'm no doctor, but I have dealt with many of them, and I have observed this to be a huge problem. Hopefully on this platform, we can get it fixed and his suggestion to fix is practical and doable in this information age.
Ben pointed out what some may say the obvious. Its all down to incentives. If we live in a capitalist system where profit is the ultimate goal, how can anyone expect a different outcome (in medicine or any other field)? Let's be honest and admit we'd all do the same if we were chairing the FDA, SEC, CDC, FED or any other supervising institution. Not saying communism or socialism is the answer .. but this is the other side of capitalism we have to live with
I think things like health and education, among others, should be left to governments. They are just too important to be left to greedy corporates who prioritize profit over the general good.
Nonsense - I wouldn't vaccinate a child with something dangerous like Gardasil no matter who much money they threw at me
A vita role of government should be to correct bad incentive structures. Unfortunately, politics usually makes that seemingly impossible to do consistently well.
Why do we live in a world where so many people have become greedy and have their own interests at heart; instead of caring for the effects this has on communities worldwide? Pharmaceutical companies should be wanting to help people and make a difference in people's lives, not exploiting them. I chose to study Medicine as I truly care for and want to help others live a better life.
It takes far more courage to be able to change one's view than stay the same regardless of damning evidence against it. Good on him for bringing it to our attention.
After 10 years only 10K views? This video deserves many times more views.
Amazing was listening to DarkHorse Podcast that brought me here.
David Noakes is in Wandsworth prison. He had 3 clinics treating cancer patients with GcMAF.
2019 and it has STILL NOT been fixed
just get worse more people in agony droping dead and commiting suicide. God love us,
Jason Markson - correct
Took my husband’s life 4 years ago
@@onewiselady6412 I am so very sorry to hear such tragic news about your husband. This should never have had to happen to him - or to you his wife... We will keep fighting this, it has to stop. Justice must prevail! In the UK since yesterday there has been a small but key change, really a slight improvement: there is now more advice available to GPs about psych drug withdrawal, which means their inability to react to that advice will no longer be based on their ignorance..What they do with that extra long-needed info though is for now down to them, some will do good with it and some perhaps not. It feels like a step in the right direction hopefully..Baby steps.. The fight will not stop however, I want to reassure you of that. Sending you warm thoughts and solidarity ❤
Louisa Tamburro wow... had forgotten i even wrote that comment here. 11 months feels like a lifetime ago. Thankyou for being so kind ❤️
@@onewiselady6412 you're so welcome and it's the least that any of us can do to - we're in this together ❤ . Best wishes to you and your family.
his voice and the way of speaking ♡....
and he made wonderful points.
this is why I want to do medical writing.
where you from.
Weird, they knew things 8 years ago...why are we morons today?
That is absolutely horrifying.
WTH? people are dying because of these evil companies !
Shutter Eff3ct
Its.ok..the CEO got a 20 million $ yearly bonus for successful profits for year to.uear growth.
I'm sure they can manage.
And if they don't come up with "magic" pills, people like you complain and organize whiny public marches
there's no money in healthy people. sick people keep coming back. that's why we need to stop putting our wellness in the hands of THEM, and heal ourselves✨
9 Yeats later...has anything improved? Anybody know?
Rankings of trial sponsors by 'silent trial rate'
For example, AstraZeneca had 132 trials, of which 26 were silent - their silent trial rate is thus 19.7%.
On the other hand, Astellas Pharma Inc had 77 trials (of which 58 were silent) making their silent trial rate 75.3%.
STUDY:
Huser V, Cimino JJ (2013) Linking ClinicalTrials.gov and PubMed to Track Results of Interventional Human Clinical Trials. PLoS ONE 2013 doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0068409
(or search for 'trialome' on wikipedia or web)
It is good to see wisdom, where abounding knowledge is at work.
"Everybody Lies" Dr. Gregory House
Especially the pharma companies/researchers.
Great speaker.Awesome video.
Governments should do the testing. Drug companies should pay for it. They might farm out the work. If a testing company is caught cheating it gets a fine and no more contracts. putting it out of business.
Government maje money from drugs companies
I know. I'm in "the field" Best you can do is be as informed as possible
Bret Weinstein sent me here
This is really depressing. It feels like just everyone wishes to take advantage of us when they can.
Still actual. More actual than ever.
I wonder if the problem has been fixed. 8 years later.
The academic journals get a large part of their money from either pharmaceutical research or selling article reprints (to drug reps).
May I ask how you know this? I'm not disputing it, just really interested in finding proof of it.
@@malakeet it was in an article written by a previous editor of BMJ, cant remember when i read it. Apparently something like (dont quote me) 1/3 of their income was drug companies buying reprints of (favourable) articles for distribution to doctors and was cited as contributing to why they are reluctant to publish unfavourable papers (ie no orders for copies of those)
I know this video is old now, but has anything been done to fix this problem since then, or is it still out of control?
August 2021 and we are pushing non FDA approved vaccines to the entire population.
"1 positive result published 6 negative results remained unpublished" THIS MAKES US ANGRY!!!
They know nothing more than they learned about it. The patient can die from prescriptions and they don't care.
Wow!! This was very, very interesting. Very infornative. Thank you so much for this video. God bless you.
Wouldn't it be amazing if the pharmaceutical industry could enslave the whole planet sometime in the near future
Good discussion. Causes? The first one that most easily comes to mind is money. Beyond publishing all studies, there might be a more comprehensive look at hiw the money flows from all this.
How do people become so biased? This happens in far more than medical journals. Often we only see what we want to - Happens in the car business all the time.
Hello covid vaccines... lol
Surprised this was not taken down.
Worth favoriting since I'm a PharmD student :D
I think negative findings are useful. Even if the results negate your hypothesis, they tell you what is a dead end (provided you conducted a experiment in a reliable fashion). And so I've learned to enjoy the more concrete negative findings over getting inconclusive (aka inconsistent) results.
I hope that journals will realize that both negative and positive findings contribute to the progress of science... But I can see why implementing it might have its complications.
Jesus, this guy would be executed if he gave this talk today.
Is that why he stopped?
Choices? that can be so short sided and sheltered. There are SO MANY circumstances that are outside the realm of choice.
when ted used to be good
3 years has passed since this talk was given. i wonder how it it is today if publication bias is still prevalent today
These biases in medicines is even worse if you happen to be female. Most human test trials are done on males because female bodies are more complicated with their hormones and the risks of pregnancy.
you know because women don't volunteer to get tested,
Its unfortunate but male and female bodies are more similar than different not to say theres no difference at all but it isnt as big of a deal. Id argue men because many drugs dont work on male bodies to be exact amd males have higher illness and death rates its logicsl to want to test on males and see how effective drugs are not saying women dont matter but its about the overall picture of treatment. Males have a more delicate biology that requires more treatment overall and thus are better for knowing whether a drug works or not
@@ishrendon6435 LoL
@@marielubin8830 not at all true.
@@trishayamada807 that is true ....
He knows speaking the truth now may be too much for him to handle?
this explains the covid vaccines
This Ted talk had very good ideas, especially when looking at a Doctors Oath to “do no harm”. The most important wording the speaker used was near the end of his talk: once research gets to a level where we are at human trials, we need to do better at publishing negative results. In thinking from an ethical point of view, that would allow justice and non-maleficence to not be robbed from patients. There are many things I disagree on the matter of publishing negative research as well. There is so much testing and trials that happen for these human studies to come to fruition, and if the medical community was flooded with research published both positive and negative alike, it would be a very daunting task with analyzing, and using tactics like meta-analysis’, to filter out the bad from the good. I also think that once researchers don’t get a result they want, they don’t continue to research it to finish the publication. Besides that, this Ted talk title is also a misnomer as I feel that Doctors do know what drugs they are prescribing. If I went to a doctor who didn’t know what he was prescribing, I would not even consider going through with the treatment. There are new drugs that come on the market and those drugs are ones I feel Doctors are even more worried to prescribe or use for their patients. From a beneficence point of view, Doctors really do want to do what is best for their patients and that includes educating them on side effects of treatments.
I'm miserable because i'm forced to take "antipsychotic injections" called abilify. Ive gained 60lbs in two months. I now have anxiety, depression and sm always sleepy and tired.
Im not accountable to my actions because this isnt the actual me, im being stifled and suffocated
Try water fasting!
Enibokun Ero I’ve just got off the meds a month ago. Officially a free man :)
I agree with you entirely and that is what Dr Goldacre is advocating for, a transparent publication process void of bias.
Goldacre makes very valid points - which are to do with the consequences of conflicts of interests, and the negative consequences for patients. However, there is a much more serious problem at the moment. The bulk of the medical profession (along with the public) still believes that you can treat chronic diseases by changing the bio chemisrty of the body. I think drugs & surgery have an amazing influence on positive outcomes in many accute situations, but not in chronic illnesses that are a result of poor nutrition and lifestyle - the bulk of sickness today is due to this. Eating a varied whole plant based diet, low fat, low salt - along with strength/cardio/flexibility training and meditation along with a healthy social life will eliminate much of the chronic disease that we have today. Trying to fix these diseases by changing the bio chemistry using drugs is quackery at its worst.
yeah man let's start managing diseases like diabetes and lupus solely with meditation and cardio!!! that won't kill people at all
@@schlondpoofa I suppose your chemicals cure diabetes then
@@mo-om they can't cure type 1 diabetes but they can help manage the chronic condition. They can aid in the weight loss and reversal of insulin sensitivity that can cure type 2 diabetes if caught early enough.
@@mo-om without these "chemicals" (read: naturally derived and then refined substances that act on pre-existing structures within the body in the same way as endogenous structures) many people would die or have their quality of life drastically reduced. Many people DO die because of lack of access to medical care. Please learn about how medicines work before coming for them lmao
@@amoriicovers I am all for what works be it herb or "chemicals". There is no point mocking people (as was done by the previous commenter) because they prefer certain types of medications. People have lived for thousands of years and used those treatments that have now been relegated to "alternative forms of medication". There is a wealth of knowledge on this type of medication and people are probably better off looking into these again rather relying on profit-hungry corporates who lie, cheat and conceal in order to get a drug to market without worrying about how people are affected.
I know this would be termed as "anecdotal" but I haven't been to hospital or taken any drug for the last five years. All I had to do was be more conscious of what went into my body and tried to stay fit. The few times I got a little sick, I just used some local herbs and I got well.
What I have seen people do is just bash alternative medicine and call people names. That is totally unnecessary. So much for your "evidence based medicine". We can see right through the bad science now. I have no problem taking any medicine as long as it would work. Am just not sure I can trust corporates with my health or the health of my family. Not after watching this anyway.