How does On3 REALLY feel about Coach Prime & Colorado? We ask On3 recruiting expert Josh Newberg
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2024
- On today's DNVR Buffs Podcast, RK and Jake are joined by On3 recruiting expert Josh Newberg to squash the beef between DNVR, Buff Nation and On3. Josh also shares great insights into Juju Lewis' recruitment, recruits' perceptions of Colorado and Coach Prime after this year's spring game and home visits. The guys then discuss the long list of things that are "very mid at best". Former Michigan State offensive tackle Ethan Boyd has committed to Colorado, Isreal Solomon and Victory Johnson have entered the transfer portal, Tyler Brown wins Colorado weight lifter of the spring and much more.
0:00 Start
1:00 Intro
1:15 Josh Newberg joins the show
28:50 Top 5 things that are very mid at best
41:19 Portal news and updates
45:00 Juju Lewis
50:28 Isreal Solomon and other Colorado transfer portal entries
53:40 Tyler Brown
54:30 Questions: Cormani McClain, Coach Prime, Nick Saban, General Booty, at home visits, Carl Reed, and Twitter spaces.
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as somebody born and raised in the south (Texas) played football high school and college I can promise you Nick Saban and deion Sanders are nowhere near the same celebrity, everybody's mama and daddy and granny knows who deion Sanders is
I wanted to say the same thing!!! So many texts and facetime that Deion is in the building that place will be a parking lot. They will have to rescue CP with a helicopter.
Facts!!!💯
Thank you💯
Appreciate you both for having me on! I love the channel and what you guys do. I thought we had a really good conversation about recruiting. I look forward to talking CU Buffs recruiting this offseason and hopefully we can collab again this summer when recruiting starts to heat up during OV season. Thanks guys!
After a few days of negativity re who's tweeting what (too much drama for me), I enjoyed your clear-headed thinking of the big picture. Thanks for being part of the show. Come on back!
Nice job Josh. I like your reports, but O3's website isn't as user friendly as 247. It's a little busy and clunky.
We appreciate you for coming on the show Josh!
Don’t trust On 3. As my grandmother use to say “Feed them with a long handle spoon”😳
First time listener of Josh and On3. Gotta say, I really liked the energy. Good vibes and his point on HS recruiting to me didn't come off as the typical "they gotta recruit HS kids wahhhh" type stuff. It felt like he was just trying to with his point of view tell us that it might be extremely beneficial especially in the future years to invest in the HS recruiting a bit more and certainly, if he is actually in the mix, I say JuJu will be a must visit IF that visit is truly important to JuJu. I didn't get the feeling he was saying colorado isn't approaching it right. Just my take. Earned a lot of respect for on3 there. Nice Buffs helmet just for show was nice! I know it's not special but I never felt a hater vibe from Josh at all. So can't wait to see you on later! DNVRxOn3 lol
In the black Community The reaction to Deion Sanders coming into the hood is way different than if coach Saban show up.
Exactly
Facts... Most of us could walk right saban and wouldn't even know who he was 😂😂😂
Fax💯
I don't think these guys get that. Deionized Sanders is Royalty in the black community. Therefore, he's loved and hated in a way that no other coach ever will or can be simply because they are not him. Saban is not Sanders and Sanders is not Saban.
This guy is completely unaware of black self hatred.
RK don’t play poker ♥️ ♣️ your facial expression said it all…. The grimace 😬 was hilarious
Coach Prime was right when he said if he went to one school to talk to a prospect everyone else in that area would be offended if he failed to visit them. All eyes are on Prime - all the time.
I feel the same way. Folks from all over the country are "keeping reciepts" on CP's moves.
The downtown food & beverage folks are happy.
And folks like me see a Muhammad Ali quality in Coach Prime. All those high octane celebraties who came a visiting last year will be wanting to glom some of Neon Deion's shine.
Funny how important it is for Coach Prime to do in home visits according to Newberg , that he would have learned all of this inside info on Cormani. Hmm didn't Miami send there whole coaching staff there on more than one occasion? What does that prove?
Also our recruiting staff and coaches do background checks, even more now. They probably could have done better last season.
To be fair, Miami truly doesn’t care about character whatsoever
Coach Prime and his team knew all this about Cormani but he needed to make a splash with a 5 ⭐️recruit and ignored the red flags thinking they could change him. I bet his mom wanted him to finally have a strong male role model but it didn’t work……….
@@joshuahorton5135 Makes total sense the state of the program is in currently.......
Also, the recruiting staff can find out that same information during their trips
Please dont turn onto one of those shows that invite people who bash Coach Prime all in the name of getting "all perspectives" or "being balanced". Not saying that the On3 guy did that at all, just saying please dont morph into that. We get haters from all angles now, so we honestly don't need more of it.
RK standin on straight biz. You a real one RK 🤞🏾
He’s really not lmao
I kinda feel like you guys fell for the On3 guy’s bait a little bit with the in home recruiting stuff by choosing to take a side on it. The truth is that it doesn’t matter what any of us thinks, Coach Prime will do what Coach Prime wants to do, and we are just along for the ride. We can all have opinions on every little thing but to be honest I (and I think most buffs/CP fans) don’t really care about all that.
We are just here to witness greatness, and heck if Coach Prime is wrong along the way then it’ll simply reveal itself and he will find a way to pivot and grow, just like any great leader would. I just hope that takes pressure off y’all, in that just because you guys have Coach Prime’s back (which you should) doesn’t mean you’re obligated to defend everything that he does 👍
Exemplary essay.
Going along for the ride...
Instead of a 4 minute ECLIPSE. With Coach Prime its like a shooting star which stays in the sky for 5 months an autumn.
There's an
Attitude in the Altitude
Do phones not work anymore? If CP needed to know more about a HS player he can call up there
Coach Prime can video chat with any coach. I think they knew they had work to do with Cormani, and Prime thought he would come around. You could tell how he was late to show up and half assed it all the time in the videos that he was a kid who had had his ego stroked his whole life and wasn’t hungry for success. He had already arrived in his mind.
We lost nothing. Compare him to the RB that came in this year who was a dawg every time you saw him working. It’s obvious he was gunning to start and was damn well going to do everything to be the starter. And if he isn’t, it isn’t because he didn’t work hard enough.
Marked differences between the two. One is working to move up. One felt he had already arrived.
CP has a whole recruiting team, its not just him lol.... This guy thinks the recruiting staff isnt travelling, interviewing/etc.?? CP does not need to be doing all that as well.
"this guy'' is well aware of that....
People don't know the process! It's the team. It's the position coaches, but he gets the last say after they vouch for the player! It's the head coaches job to recruit the high-profile players! I laugh when people say that he doesn't know how to coach or recruit... I'd implore them to take a look at what the head coach duties are! It's as if people think that they're a king instead of a coach!
I believe the current recruitment process is appropriate. When my son went off to college, I visit the University of West Virginia. I did not want a home visit. I wanted to know where my son would be living, eating, the surroundings, security, parking etc. Great content.
You should open the lines for the fans to speak if you invite this guy back again.
That would not go well at all. Lots of f bombs and bullying would likely be directed at the guy.
I think Coach Prime knew what he was taking on with Cormani and believed he and CU could make a difference.
I'm 53, and EVERY school in the SEC, ACC, BIG-12, and most of the west PAC-12 schools have always had great recruiting! I once spoke to Barry Alvarez and asked him why Wisconsin couldn't get those players? He told me that they love it here in the summer, but that winter weather is a recruit killer! Usually student athletes stay near home because it's easier easier!
Coach Prime is getting those players that they missed on and opening pipelines to get those players! People are acting like this is year 5-10!
This was great. Nice change of perspective from the norm
I’m an RK guy and Not a Josh guy. But Josh bodied RK in that in home visit argument 😂 tough scene
Josh a great guy Team Tampa for life
If talking to high school coaches count as in home recruiting yes I might agree but it isn’t in home visits is when the coach goes to the players house not talk to there coach because they can talk to high school coaches on the phone and ask those questions
Jake folded like a pretzel 😂 Rk way to stand on business.
Why can’t CU recruiting staff investigate HS coaches views etc? Is Coach Prime the only one who could do that?
Let me know how those rosters look now that portal is wide open. The days of high school kids staying is over so miss me with the 1980s bullshit.
We better win this year.
At the mention of #12 all I can do is recall his Giant Play at TCU. Baiting the qb to toss that pass; then breaking form and snagging their 6 points off the scoreboard and returning the ball up field, out of bounds, and presenting the ball to CP, "You mean like this?"
At the metion of 12 all I see is Stanford's #13; snagging the ball off of 12s head for a touchdown...Stanford's 13 is him ...
I thought I was the only person on Earth who thought Drake is mid - *AT BEST*
Man that On3 interview was gold y’all need to start having all the haters on views would be in the millions!!!!!
Even more; make it a point to interact with the next opponent's PR guy.
Imagine
Our Opponents' Coaches Show . If you cud book an opponent asst coach?? Wow!
He used FSU as the blueprint and I do believe what Coach Prime is doing is similar. He was wrong because most if not all the impact players FSU had in 2023 came via the transfer portal and that is a fact not opinion…….. Nick Saban is not and I repeat is not as famous as Deion Coach Prime Sanders…..
They already knew that about cormani they were just taking a chance on him!
Not y’all friends now lol I love it😂
The On3 comment that because Saban could do selected in-home visits completely countered the argument that Coach Prime will be better able to pull full classes of top tier recruits after they have an established winning record. Of course Saban could visit his top3-5 targets, he had numbers 6-25 licking at their chops just to get an offer. Total doublespeak of expecting Coach Prime to both wait his turn and be held to the highest standard in NCAA coaching.
Also Jake dropping Tyler Brown as a news item with the portal entries a full segment ahead of mentioning the lifting award was frosty. Well played!
Hey guys? Try doing with Boulder rrstsuranters what David Letterman did by going to various restaurants.
It'd be like frre commercials for them and hey? Dining is part of the Game Day experience.
247 sports for sure
That was wonderful. Nice step towards a great working relationship.
There were overreactions from on3 and Josh Pate after all the outgoing transfers prior to CU bringing in their transfers. Also JD Pickell sorta overreacted about the Shilo sanders IG post
Should of had Neely on during this interview. But I doubt he would of been on the same screen as On3
Josh and on3 , picking out small thing to make them big issues. Yall slick trying to get him to follow YOUR RULES.
Shout out to Stillwater, guns up☝🏽but a total buffs nut in the Prime era!
Spaces is like clubhouse @RK
Way to go, RK!
They both folded. These people are looking for an in and there goes Jake agreeing. I think your invite to the cookout needs to be reviewed.
Can I say this Jake folded but RK stood on business. The narrative changes soo much on prime. If he goes to see juju THEY WILL say he is playing favorites. Jake don’t change because they gave you an opportunity I get it but nah JD talks down on CU
Newberg has never been an issue, and Wiltfong is very pro CU. The asshole over there is Andy Staples.
The gall of wanting Coach Prime to fly all over the country conducting home visits with his (and his family’s) history of blood clots is incredibly tone deaf. Risk his health 🤦🏽♀️
Coach Prime isn’t listening to him or any other goofball, trust me.
Saben and Prime are not the same. Both huge names in sports for different reasons.
New buff, what does Sko buffs means?
scaled down version of Let's go Buffs! over the years just became Sko Buffs! (thanks for being a new one, welcome to the herd!)
Its California-Colorado alpine slopes version of "Skoal" which is Scandinavian for
"Get the Fuck Out the Way"
@@professormichaellemaire8801 Interesting take since our family dog was Skoal, and we raised a glass to him many times over the years since that's what us Swedes said when toasting. He'd always wag his tail, never felt like he had to get the fuck out of our way.
Watch Andy Staples video from today. He said coach prime may not have a p4 job by 2026.
General Booty is John David Booty's nephew
If he does a visit for one, he'll have to do it for others. I don't care obe way or the other which method CP uses, but know it will cause backlash if he starts it for one. He may feel it's worth losing others.
Nice olive branch, and it will boost that guys numbers, but he definitely is a part of a systematic issue with not just college football but this country. He is so entrenched in the "good ole system" that different is not seen as innovative, instead it's wrong
"You saw the comment yesterday...." -rk. Bro. I didnt see s#!$ about juju yestetday. Just say what was said RK! Lol ✌️ Now i gotta do homework!
My bad!!
@@ryankoenigsberg3037 You know I'm playing bro! I give Jake a lot of crap(in a good way) on Twitter. Had to call you out here, just cause i didn't catch what was said yesterday or the day before. But then you don't tell us & I was like...what?!? No! Lol but nah bro. Your good!
Great show today & really liked the tension & how fun the On3 interview was. I really agree with you but I think he might have a point with possibly having to make a special visit for JuJu, but in my opinion only if it matters to JuJu which I'm not sure how you find out unless directly from him but if he doesn't care...neither should us or Prime. If any part of him wants a visit to his crib once...I wouldn't call Prime out for going against his own thoughts on that because you're right...this is the possible heir apparent & to secure a QB of his caliber to listen to Shedeur for a while & learn the offense and how to be a pro like Shedeur will be, but then BE THE GUY that Prime mainly builds the program around the next 4/5 years. Shedeur & his Father and Bro being the spark plugs/jumper cables/etc that brought this team back from 1-11 purgatory to possibly him & JuJu to give Prime the most important piece to build what he wants to build & possibly make it easier for him to stay not only thru JuJu's years but hopefully beyond if it's all setup right.
But yea...I just wanted to give YOU some s#!t cause I love ya..haha. I hope to meet up one day but as Jake knows, I'm terminally ill & hardly get out of my bed let alone the house. But I wanna make it to the bar for a Nuggets game or Buffs game this year. I hope to see ya there! And I've never gotten to tell you this bro, but congrats on landing your girl. Allie was & is always nice to me. She was the one who gave me the member package, but with a hat & two t-shirts because of the wording at the time & I told her she didn't have to of course bit she did it anyways. She's just so sweet & funny & of course gorgeous! Loves sports! You found a true gem for the long term I hope. You two seem great together & for eachother & I'm praying for you both as you grow old brother!
Hope to talk to you again soon RK. It brightens my day so maybe I'll get in touch on twitter/X like I am w/Jake!?! Not a bugger or annoying but I understand you're probably swamped w/people that want your ear or to say hi etc. You're a popular guy haha. I certainly didn't expect a reply just now, not because you don't ever reply, but because you just got a ton on your plate & more. So thanks for the reply RK. I hope you know I was just playing. Thanks for all you do. You make getting thru each hour/day so much easier & I cannot thank you enough for that. It helps distract me from some nasty symptoms and severe pain etc. So, God bless. Stay cool, stay safe & stay healthy Ryan! 🙏 Hope I see you at the bar soon bro! Have a killer weekend! Go Nuggets! LFG!
Btw, T-Cal said he DID beat you in madden like you said, but had no issues telling me & the entire live show on the spring gsme that you got a lot of game yourself in madden! But he's excited to play NCAA tho. Haha
Keep being you bro. Never change! Thank you for everything you do that not only helps me but helps the world of buffs fans/colorado sports fans & other content you get involved in, Broncos etc. Lots of love man.💙 take it easy RK! Beer on me when we meet. I'll have to get a soda but I got ya... ✌️ brother!
Sorry so long...lol didn't expect the reply abd had a lot I've been dying to tell you from a while back to just an hour ago. Lol
@@gicueN17R0 😂😂😂 all good
Jake and RK were not prepared for this interview. He asked you to call his bluff and you didn't.
I got in here late. Guys you missed the mark with on 3! ANDY STAPLES!!! He is the e ultimate hater!
GEEZ.....In writing my previous comment I paused your video at the initial point of the in-home visit topic. Well, when I finished writing I continued on with the video/in-home visit topic and I can't believe you brought up one of Prime's INVALID excuses....other people/schools, etc. that don't get visits will be upset.......WOW. That is SOOOO untrue. On3 had a 1st round knockout in calling you out "I don't think that's true", in-home/in the streets off record mumblings about Cormani that could have been identified, and your comment about guys wanting to come to Colorado to see the mountains, school, etc.......that's ridiculous, why can't both happen????? In-home visits and unofficial/official visits to see the damn mountains, etc. That excuse was taken straight from Prime's press conference. I like you guys wayyyy better than On3 but you got knocked the F. out. Now let me go finish the video. Good call on bringing On3 in though guys. Besides this topic, you guys do really rock!!
I think Coach Prime knew about Cormani's issues, he probably believed if he was surrounded by a caring staff, new environment and mentorship that he would change. Cormani was also important in marketing CU. Prime had snagged the top CBs at JSU now at CU. The marketing of Cormani just didnt work out well in the end. I am from Florida and live near the area Cormani is from. Coach Prime is well connected here. Plus Prime's staff takes visits and gets necessary information with Prime probably face timing in.
Imagine a Coach Prime Mile High in the Rockies University of Colorado Buffaloe recruits Bowling Tournament.
5 on a team
32 alleys
160 potential recruits all in one place
Give 'em a PEP talk and then let the mountains do what only the Mountains can do.
PLEASE GUYS DON'TTRUST THESE GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DNVR is a class act 3 is a bunch off industry pretenders. they are not in Colorado's best interests.
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All of that would matter is the corner was not in bolder due to off the field issues this guy could not get on the field because he is not good enough
It’s not Josh it’s JD
Many comments saying Jake folded. I don't think he did. He was open-minded to hear the point of view from an objective voice who's been covering college recruiting for 13+ years. And Josh didn't come off as a hater by any means. (will add I've been a Folsom faithful for 44 years, love tuning into Bucky, Darius, Unc, RK and Jake, and I think it's good to get the perspective from someone outside the fold such as Josh)
Agreed, but I'll say Josh hasn't shown himself to be an hater in his videos but his ON3 counterparts have.
it gets exhausting being a trailblazer... bringing tomorrow into today while people judge you on yesterday's standard.
The concept of squashed beef is so laughably ridiculous; and actually diversionary. Bring the ones throwing the stones to the table; not the best they’ve got! Why have the discussion without details. I choose to take this moment with Newburg as a fresh start. No overlooking the specifics hereafter…
On 3 is taking this in-home visit as if Coach prime thinks he’s better than people they just don’t understand it if they pay close attention to the recruiting staff that’s what the recruiting staff is doing. He’s trusting them to do those things. That’s why you have a team he would never do home visits, and he still gonna win a national championship in the next 10 years
DNVR you guys can’t take this guy serious he’s trying to control coach prime. Prime is not doing what he doesn’t agree with so he’s mad. Coach prime doesn’t have to recruit like Nick Saban. He’s Deon and these kids respect prime over Nick.
Ridiculous. No, Coach Prime does not need to do an in-home visit, not even for a quarterback. Plus, Coach Prime has walking difficulties. If a player wants to join Colorado's football team, he can do an official visit and bring his parents/guardians.
I want to see these interviews with the so called haters if CU doesn’t make a bowl 😂
I do not agree with Jake… Coach Prime does NOT have to take in home visits.
Nick Saban, with all due respect to the greatest college coach of all time. Is no where near the celebrity of DEION SANDERS!!! Especially in the south. Not even close.
We have him as a 4 star, but I still say he's a 5 star... 😂 what kind of contradiction yall run at On3. Then u started off, I pick up on yall when coach prime arrived. On3 uses colorado platform for more clicks. Yall should do more thanking to coach prime for getting your rates up.
Wow, he fold smh
shouldn't compare Saban with many coaches. Not even a fair comparison to Prime. How long has Saban been a coach? I mean come on.
Jake you lost me with the drake take 🤦🏽♂️
I love you guys and your show but your response to the On3's question about Prime/JuJu and a home visit was a complete fanboy, not wanting to wrestle feathers with Prime response. I LOVE PRIME and Colorado but I call myself a Fan man or unblind fan, meaning I'm realistic in my overall opinions/thoughts on Prime/Colorado. The no home visits is probably the #1 issue I have with Colorado/Prime and Prime's 3-4 reasons he gave at that press conference as to why he doesn't do them made the situation worse, not believable, etc. His responses were ridiculous. If Prime had said something like he minimizes travel due to his foot injury I would have understood. There is NOTHING anyone can tell me to justify how a in-home visit with a recruit is not SIGNIFICANT. Especially in a African American household (of which I am) and/or a single parent household and especially with Prime's charm/charisma. Your guy's response was almost exactly in unison. I just ask that all fan boy content creators have SOME balanced in their reporting. I was watching this video and paused it after hearing your response to write this. As for one3 hating, you also haven't brought up their one reporter (forgot his name) with the blond hair who seems like a Colorado hater to me. He does call out some good, somewhat balanced stuff (like the in-home visits) but he does seem like a level 4-5 Colorado hater (he's on the spectrum at least). I do love you guys but more balance. There's no way in private you agree with the no in-home visit also minimizing the HS recruiting approach. Although the last few weeks, HS recruits and transfer with multi year eligibility seems to have picked up
Respectfully my cousin's son is being heavily recruited. We all are African American. My cousin's son wants to use as many visits as possible as a gift to his mom. This is one way he feels he can provide for her a chance to see different parts of the nation. Prime's reasons might not be what people want to hear. Nevertheless there are recruits that prefer him to not come to their neighborhood and rather show off on their social media with a campus visit.
If Coach Prime does an in home visit I think it would be pretty rare and I dont think it will be "in-home". I think the player and his family would meet him somewhere in that player's city.
Still don't trust On3😮
Boooooo! On 3. They have made their position clear.
Don’t ever disrespect marvel again
There’s no beef. There’s only lonely people that want attention.
This Josh guy has been covering college football recruiting for over 20 years, if anybody knows how's coaches get top players he does
CSU…mid at best
Yall soft for dodging the on3 smoke. Yall know those are the biggest Prime haters and let them off the hook. Disappointing as hell. SMH
You know your comment history showing a pattern of interjecting combative narratives is public right?
@@willh69I’m aware
RK you're too sensitive. It's a game. Everybody doesn't have to like your team. Prime and Shedeur are big boys. They can handle criticism. Prime invites it and he thrives on it. It comes with the territory, and it's so much better than being ignored. What if everyone loved the Buffs? Could you think of anything more boring than that? #skobuffs
On3 sucks my lord
Y’all starting to boot lick a bit and not think logically… a home visit for a 5 star QB wouldn’t hurt. He flying around doing book deals and tv commercials. Locking in a Qb for post Shedeur is clutch. And Coach Prime ain’t Nick Saban.
i seen the “Jake folded“ comments and upon further review he 10000000% folded 🥲
Facts. RK is a true Buffs fan. Jake is looking out for his career….
RK is literally a stakeholder in the original DNVR.
Jake is an awesome dude who needs to make sure he looks after his relationships that are non-CU where there may be bigger opportunities in future for him at these companies
So he can make more money and live a great life
Leave him alone
@@willh69 1. You could’ve written that all together
2. Leave him alone ? I’m not messing with him I just said what I saw
@@TaeAlpine121 nah it needed to be said
Chess moves happening here
Carry on...
@@willh69 I think you’re slow