Dr ANGLE - WHAT WENT WRONG? - MOERMAN ANGLE ADAPTOR REVIEWED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- This video looks at the current issues with the MOERMAN Dr angle adaptor as of 2019
I still use this product at the moment but I have to be very careful how much pressure I'm applying on it due to the issues covered in this video.
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It’s awesome that a man that uses Moerman products gives such an honest opinion!!
Yup, I'll always do my best to provide accurate helpful info so the end users can make an informed choice wether to buy something or not. In this case I'd say save your money till the better version is out
That's a great review, Peter. Love your candor..
Thanks very much indeed!
Appreciate you taking the time to watch the video.
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Great review! Ive experienced very similar results from my Dr Angle. Conceptually, it is an excellent tool within the exception of the aforementioned structure issues
Clean Streak Window Cleaning Services yeah the concept is great just poor quality finish to the product
Great video and honest impartial review.
Thanks buddy. I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video, 😁🤜🏻🤛🏻
Honest review mate 👍
Always 😁👍🏻
I use a Wagtail angle arm which is fixed and works great in many situations. The added length of this one is a good idea to give you an Ettore ledge eze effect but being so long it’s going to create huge leverage force when you put pressure on it. Any moving parts at the joint is going to be dodgy. There are already adjustable aluminum cranked angle arms out there that are shorter but even they have similar wobbly bits issues. A safe bet would be a set of two or three fixed aluminum moulds - maybe 40 and 30 degrees so you can create zero degrees if you want when using a 30 or 40 handle.
Hey Mark, don't think we've chatted much before. Thanks for your imput and your videos, appreciate it 👍🏻
Very helpful and agreed. Haven’t used it enough yet to add my feedback but just upon examination I found the same problem. My doctor angle at the end of a pole extended past 24 feet is just too wobbly. Would love a sturdy version.
They are working on a better version but this one shouldn't of been released. The better qualitly finished version should be out for sale, this is damaging to moermans brand and they will loose customers if they continue to put out products that brake and need improving.
TRAD - MAN agreed. They are already fighting a reputation-even if unjustified-of being cheap, so they need to not put out poorly made stuff. Their good stuff is the best there is, but this...and the last angle adapter, just aren’t what I hoped.
@@mikegray1702 precisely buddy
Great honest review.
Love the new backdrop. 👍🏻
Thanks buddy!
Yeah was tricky with the lighting because the banner is shiny so the lights were causing some of the banner to be unreadable, so I've had to reposition all the lighting until it looked a bit better lolz. The joys of video making
TRAD - MAN you did a good job of it. It looks fantastic. What’s the backdrop made of and what lights are you using
@@squeakycleandave1 the lighting is soft box studio lights.
I'll have to double check what the banner is made from, but it's quite a strong thick material with a shiny surface on the front side.
I saw immediately that the bottom was weak so I made a modification of it to fit it to my wfp that has worked perfectly...I cut an 8 inch section from an Unger aluminum pole and drilled holes to correspond with the holes in the Dr angle and used the blue click buttons provided to lock the Dr angle to the Unger aluminum pole section. Then I fitted the Unger section into a zero trad pole tip (which formerly had a red Unger tip on it) and drilled and screwed them together. Since there are 3 click points holding the Unger section to the Dr angle, it distributes the stress between them and the Dr angle has not cracked. It actually works beautifully and has served me well every day for many months now. I pre-ordered mine so I have had it since it was first available. I do hope they improve it though, because it needs to work for everyone equally since it is such a helpful and inovative tool. Thank you Trad-man for the very honest review! I love moerman tools as well, they reignited my love of window cleaning and I am forever thankful!
Yeah let's hope the next version is better and they strengthen the angle adjustment section as that is very flimsy also
What angle adapter do you recommend? I bought the Dr angle adapter but I can't even fit it onto my pole.
This is my pole setup... th-cam.com/video/aIFtgZ1Zjq0/w-d-xo.html
Is there a product out there that go's deeper? Like the ones you have whit waterfed poles?
Yeah unger nlite
I'm looking for an adapter like the dr angle from moerman or adapter from unger but one that goes further. For example, if there is a roller shutter box in the way and you cannot pull straight down
The unger nlite pole and adaptors are brilliant. You can make the adaptors longer with extra sections to
The fact that moerman allowed this to pass any kind of fit for purpose standard, is pretty shameful ! Thanks for a very honest & informative review Peter ✌
No worries buddy, hope your keeping well!
@@TradMan Keeping well mate . Likewise I hope?
@@JasonDunlop247 that's great!
Yeah I'm super duper thanks matey
Since making this video, have you received any news that you can share with us, on any Dr Angle Arm fixes (improvements) by/from Moerman?
They tried to tighten it up but it affected the performance of the locking button. It kept sticking so for me I'll be staying with using a wfp angle arm for now with an excelerator screwed to it 👍🏻
@@TradMan did they put this tightened up one out on the market? Or was it just a prototype they sent to you for testing? Do you think they will try to fix it properly, or abandon the project as is?
I thought it was worth following up because I was going to buy one, but I don't think so now. I'll wait (maybe).
I think it was a prototype mate
Mine broke on the first window. A 2/5 for the moerman guy? I'm loving the honesty Plaid man!
Yeah buddy I do like some of moermans stuff but this dr angle is just no where near acceptable.
Thanks for watching!
Mine cracked strait away. I’ve just put together my own and works great
Great review 👍 - just wondered if this has been fixed yet
As far as I know its still the same
Hey Trad Man, I’ve just ordered this from window cleaning warehouse, do you know if these issues have been fixed?
Thanks for the content keep it coming.
Hey bud, no as far as I'm aware its the same wobbly and fragile Dr angle.
I use a wfp angle adaptor.
Check out my vid called the ultimate trad pole
Hey I was just watching that video actually as I’ve just received my phantom. I looked on WCW and I couldn’t see on angle adapter starter kit how you could connect the excelerator like you have, it only has the clip pieces?
Here’s the link windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/products/facelift-phantom-precision-angle-neck?_pos=4&_sid=5411d9369&_ss=r&variant=31436516032572
@@michael-reay-beaton you need two angle adaptors. Its a bit annoying but basically I have the precision angle adaptor and a standard angle adaptor.
The precision one is the one that goes onto your pole. The other half is the standard angle adaptor as its round. Then pop the excelerator on the top and put a single screw through the existing hole in the squeegee handle to fix it on.
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thx for review 😲
No problem buddy 😁👍🏻
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Aye sure it's brotha
Great video!Happend with me,he broke...
Yeah it's happened to a few folks mate. Not good situation
Hi, have Moerman sorted this problem out yet?
They are working on it but no it's not been sorted as of yet.
@@TradMan thanks. I really need one but dont want to be something that's not fit for purpose
@@malcollins611 in all honesty it does work but it needs strengthened up as it's a bit wobbly. Personally I've never broken one but it does flex under side to side pressure like when scrubbing. If you use it with the excelerator and fliq it does work but if you pop on a wet applicator you'll see it flex a heck of a lot more and will potentially snap. Used with lighter pressure it will do the job but just have to be careful not to put too much pressure on it, especially side to side scrubbing. That's my honest thoughts buddy
@@TradMan I suppose that's the problem.....buying a tool you "have to be careful with". I have had problems with Moerman products before so dont want any more hassle
@@malcollins611 yeah it's a shame because some of the tools are brilliant, like the excelerator 2 and the liquidator channel is great once you master the techniques. But dr angle was a let down when it was released and it's not proving very easy to fix because if they tightened it up too much the tool wouldn't work well when changing the angles it would be too tight so they are trying to get it tightened up a bit more without compromising the angle adjustment. Personally if I need a trad pole with angle arm I'll use the ionic hydra pole as that has a proper end cone for moerman tools and the angle crank on the ionic pole is much stronger
moerman tools are also super lightweight and made from the same materials.. My guess it's a pass with moerman only attachments. Anything heavier like a stainless steel ettore channel... blegh.
Even with the excelerator, it bends the Dr angle when your scrubbing. The dr angle is no where near sturdy enough. It's a shame as the concept is great. I still use mine but I'm very careful how much pressure I'm applying on it as it bends a lot at the angle adjustment section.
Here's hoping version 2 will be better
@@TradMan awww was just a theory. boo lol. oh well.
No issues from me buddy
Gday bro, seems to be a reaccuring theme that these companies have want window cleaners to test their gear, then don’t listen to what they suggest and just produce products to a price point rather than built to last.
Yup seems that way mate, the concept of Dr angle is great, just the final product was not made to a good quality and standard
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Appears they are targeting the residential customer and not the professional market.
I wouldn't even sell this to the general public, it's flimsy and easily broken. Here's hoping version 2 is better, shouldn't have to keep waiting for version 2's all the time either. Wasting people's time and money for sure.
Thanks for watching!
Moerman likes 2.0 Versions
Yeah seems so unfortunately
Not another one that can’t figure out on how to put it properly on the pole!??
It's not just about putting on a pole, did you see the footage of the movement in the angle adjustment, it's wobbly, unstable and poor qualitly. There's no point even defending it pal, it's terrible and even moerman know that as they have already begun trying to fix it with modifications
Polzn Bladz Aye aye! How successful can we hope to be if we don’t listen to our most loyal customers?
@@polznbladz3242 will you work with other brands to better/make new tools ?
sorry to hear that .i partly got into window cleaning for what i thought would be the simple way of life to make an honest living. but now i am learning its a dog eat dog world . greedy window tool merchants are the norm .i still have my passion for window cleaning.and i hope you get yours back as you have great window cleaning skills
@@polznbladz3242 will you still use their products?