I've noticed a few comments on the fish handling, if you notice they have to toss the fish to get past the edge of the net. Yes, they could pass the fish in a congo line, but one of the top factors in delayed mortality is time out of the water which would be extended if they needed to hand the walleye to someone who could then release it outside of their net spread. They have been doing this since before I was born, I'm going to assume they know better then most of the keyboard fisheries biologists, haha.
Jay - I hope you aren't taking any criticism personally - to be fair, any nice size fish in any video spends more time out of the water than these fish do between the videoing and photographing. That being said, anyone who looks unfavorably on you or your channel because of the optics is misguided in their distaste. It's not you - you're just there to make the content. As you are someone that cares and greatly respects the resources, I can only imagine your initial reaction would have been similar in terms of the optics...key word there, optics. I can assure you that anyone spending the time handling or working with fish will know there is no impact with what they are doing. It's all perception of the masses and the less knowledgeable. Stay well Jay.
I at least trust you and those people completely, you are the ones who have the true respect for nature and the biologists know their stuff! I'm glad that you felt comfortable to document this event and it had some really neat information about how the walleye spawn occurs. Great work, and it's nice that you're able to make some content while most fish's seasons are closed. Stay safe, and keep up the good work Jay!
Hey - I undertand what your saying and most definitely understand fish handling having a Family camp in North Of Wawa since 1960, it wasn’t a critisim of you or the show you let us enjoy, my point was at first the way that guy was tossing them over the nets could have been done much more careful. After being netted and then milked and handled which is stress enough they didn’t need to look like a helicopter going back in the water. Had I done this as a child at Camp - I would have lost my fishing privledge for the trip. I’m lucky to have learned the skills to be very advanced in hunting and fishing and respect what your doing. PM me should you wish to discuss
I've seen video of lakes being stocked by air dropping fish from a plane, and not a low pass either. If that's not a problem I doubt being tossed a couple feet is that big of a deal. I probably would have been more gently personally, but I wouldn't hold this technique against anyone. Were the roles reversed I probably won't be too bothered by how rough/gentle the fish was getting me back into oxygen as long as I made it back in relatively fast.
Trout and Bass fishermen: OH MY GOSH the fish are super fragile, gotta keep your hands wet and release really light and easy. Walleye biologist: *Squeeze eggs with force* *Throws the walleye over my shoulder...SPLASH*.
Jay, this was a fantastic video, I love the information and the passion everyone showed towards the fish, thank you for this content. And thank you to Kevin for his work with the hatchery and fire department
Tell you what Jay, your channel has made me want to move up to Kenora once I finish school in a couple years. Fishing is good down here in southern ON but your channel is making the north look unmatched.
Great video...this brought back fond memories of doing this very same work in Northern Alberta in the late 1970s. A great summer job experience (except for dealing with all the hundreds of spawning suckers each day...our hoop traps would be chucked full of them!).
Super cool. I used to volunteer at a hatchery in southern Ontario working with rainbow and Browns. There is so much behind the scenes work. I miss it and wish there were more opportunities to volunteer up here in nwo.
In Ohio the fisheries biologists and hatchery workers would mix the eggs and milk with an eagle feather. Their rationale was interesting saying it’s the best natural way to preserve eggs while fertilizing them. They also cleaned the eggs with an iodine barge to kill any parasites.
I was surprised when the guy stirred the eggs and milt with his hands. I've seen many videos where they use turkey feathers for stirring them. Apparently the eggs aren't as fragile as most think. Great video Jay! Very informative.
Love the videos man started watching you last year and just found out you went to my home body of water lake Simcoe! I was trying to find a video of you there I got stoked when I seen you bassin
Hmm I'm trying to understand why he's tossing them back that way? I mean I'm sure it's not effecting them but like why do it like that? Why not just drop? 😆 The 720 spinning toss technique is unusual
Hey Jay, another great video. Question for ya. I live in Fargo, ND (SE North Dakota) and fish a couple of lakes. We are hitting northerns very well but we cant crack the code on walleyes yet. Where I am at in SE ND would you guess that most walleyes are done spawning? Thanks!
@@mtfishingwizard Where are you at in Montana? Like I said Im in SE North Dakota, obviously the further north we go the colder and later the spawn is. We nailing 24-34 inch northerns which we love but they spawn super early.
@@mtfishingwizard Gotcha, so we pretty much have the same weather, you guys are on average a bit colder than us in SE ND. Typically by mid May the spawn is done here they say. Thanks for sharing the info.
The people out there are making a direct impact on wildlife. The people in the comments complaining about how the fish are thrown are just sitting back and doing nothing.
Why would you use brood stock that are not the best possible specimens? If fish from other lakes are growing at up to 4 times as fast (5:24 timestamp), why in the world would you not use those faster growing fish for, essentially, a put-and-take program? Not trying to be a wise guy. I'm sure the biologists have good reasoning. I'd love to know.
Would the genetics of the male matter? If they were to milk larger males would the fry grow up to be bigger than those fertilized by the small ones they were milking?
I’m really surprised they aren’t selectively breeding the males and females based on length, thickness, health, etc to genetically produce better walleye. Seems as if they are just netting a bunch and squeezing the natural gene pool into a dish. Helps grow the population faster for sure, but doesn’t help make the population better. In Texas we selectively breed massive male and female bass, and then re-stock lakes with those genetic freak baby bass. Do y’all do any selective breeding in Ontario?
As a biologist, I want to warn you for side effects from selective breeding. You have to understand that with selective breeding they also select genetic malfunctions. Like you said, freak bass is exactly what they become. Just like with all the Health issues in dog breeds. What they do here is much better, by keeping the gene pool as diverse as possible. Personally, catching a large freak bass, or any other selectively bred fish, would be far less satisfying than catching a large wild fish. They are more rare, healthy and have really made the most of their environmental conditions. Even for wild fish, a lot is about genes, but naturally selected genes on all aspects.
I think a big factor on this whole discussion is resources and funding. Texas has a population of 24 million, Manitoba has a population of 1.4 million. As well, the share lunker program has third party sponsors (Toyota) throwing cash at the program. I would love to see Manitoba specifically spawn the big mamas, but I just don't think it's realistic based on the resources available.
When they stock walleyes they get dropped out of planes. He's the pro and I'm just here learning! Thanks for the comment, I do appreciate the feedback!
@@JaySiemens it’s all good. I’m very aware of how restocking works in North Eastern Ont. With fry , etc. From a professional standpoint and handling fish, for me I would have shown an easier path in releasing. Thats my upbringing. To date as far as I’ve seen there are no mortality reports on release fry being dropped from a plane because they can’t track it. That’s truth. I’m very in touch in MnR in Wawa. Your channel is great, videos great and for the negative remarks and calling me a snowflake above - I laugh. Try that for real. My whole point was to say a milked out adult free fish caught in a net to support respawn programs didn’t need to be tossed like waste. The best part of this - it stimulates conversation to better a natural resource clearly we all love. For that - all welcome to comment. Reach to me private should you want more info on conservation.
Good stuff Jay I learned a lot I definitely will be throwing the females back I sent this vid to my 13 year old son so he understands why we throw back the spawning females although the places we fish in ND and SD have great fisheries like devils lake etc but it’s important to stick to the slot limits for a reason thanks again
I've noticed a few comments on the fish handling, if you notice they have to toss the fish to get past the edge of the net. Yes, they could pass the fish in a congo line, but one of the top factors in delayed mortality is time out of the water which would be extended if they needed to hand the walleye to someone who could then release it outside of their net spread. They have been doing this since before I was born, I'm going to assume they know better then most of the keyboard fisheries biologists, haha.
Jay - I hope you aren't taking any criticism personally - to be fair, any nice size fish in any video spends more time out of the water than these fish do between the videoing and photographing. That being said, anyone who looks unfavorably on you or your channel because of the optics is misguided in their distaste. It's not you - you're just there to make the content. As you are someone that cares and greatly respects the resources, I can only imagine your initial reaction would have been similar in terms of the optics...key word there, optics. I can assure you that anyone spending the time handling or working with fish will know there is no impact with what they are doing. It's all perception of the masses and the less knowledgeable. Stay well Jay.
I at least trust you and those people completely, you are the ones who have the true respect for nature and the biologists know their stuff! I'm glad that you felt comfortable to document this event and it had some really neat information about how the walleye spawn occurs. Great work, and it's nice that you're able to make some content while most fish's seasons are closed. Stay safe, and keep up the good work Jay!
Hey - I undertand what your saying and most definitely understand fish handling having a Family camp in North Of Wawa since 1960, it wasn’t a critisim of you or the show you let us enjoy, my point was at first the way that guy was tossing them over the nets could have been done much more careful. After being netted and then milked and handled which is stress enough they didn’t need to look like a helicopter going back in the water. Had I done this as a child at Camp - I would have lost my fishing privledge for the trip. I’m lucky to have learned the skills to be very advanced in hunting and fishing and respect what your doing. PM me should you wish to discuss
I've seen video of lakes being stocked by air dropping fish from a plane, and not a low pass either. If that's not a problem I doubt being tossed a couple feet is that big of a deal. I probably would have been more gently personally, but I wouldn't hold this technique against anyone. Were the roles reversed I probably won't be too bothered by how rough/gentle the fish was getting me back into oxygen as long as I made it back in relatively fast.
They can use a 6 inch pipe (diameter) to slide them to the water
Yay!! MN statewide walleye opener is this weekend!!
Been fishing walleye since ice out lol. That’s the great thing about the mighty Mississippi out here! The season don’t close lol
Thats awesome! Stay safe and best of luck!
Trout and Bass fishermen: OH MY GOSH the fish are super fragile, gotta keep your hands wet and release really light and easy. Walleye biologist: *Squeeze eggs with force* *Throws the walleye over my shoulder...SPLASH*.
gonna die after anyways lol
@@mountain3838 These aren't salmon, they will spawn annually once they reach maturity until they die.
Tried catch and cook for the first time this last week. Whole family loved it.
I’m literally in school in the bathroom watching your video
17 minute bathroom break😂
@@owenmccaughtry8053 he’ll yeah bro
Jay, this was a fantastic video, I love the information and the passion everyone showed towards the fish, thank you for this content. And thank you to Kevin for his work with the hatchery and fire department
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you liked it!
Great video Jay..... Not a fan of buddy just tossing them over his shoulder LOL
I’m pretty sure they do that so it wakes up the fish a little bit as it hits the water
Grow up
@@upnorthfishing361 not sure what grow up would have to do with anything about my statement.
Deleted my previous comment. I agree. This seems wrong.
@@upnorthfishing361 you grow up
Biology student from Sweden here, thank you for this video Jay
Thanks for watching!
Tell you what Jay, your channel has made me want to move up to Kenora once I finish school in a couple years. Fishing is good down here in southern ON but your channel is making the north look unmatched.
Its a really great area!
Great video...this brought back fond memories of doing this very same work in Northern Alberta in the late 1970s. A great summer job experience (except for dealing with all the hundreds of spawning suckers each day...our hoop traps would be chucked full of them!).
Quite a few here too! A cool process to watch!
Love the educational component of this video and you are always on the ball with getting this information out to the public. Thank you so much Jay!
I really enjoyed learning about it too! Thanks!
Very cool video, I saw that fish net set up a couple weeks ago while out biking but now I know how that process works!
Yeah! A really cool process!
Fishing is so School. Thank you for a wonderful video.
Awesome content!, education in the sport of fishing is so important, thank you for sharing this!
I'm glad you liked it! Thank you!!
Super cool. I used to volunteer at a hatchery in southern Ontario working with rainbow and Browns. There is so much behind the scenes work. I miss it and wish there were more opportunities to volunteer up here in nwo.
Absolutely!
Great information. Thanks for passing it on!
I’m in Class rn 😂 great video buddy
Awesome
Great video Jay very informative keep them coming..
Thanks so much!! I'll do my best!
In Ohio the fisheries biologists and hatchery workers would mix the eggs and milk with an eagle feather. Their rationale was interesting saying it’s the best natural way to preserve eggs while fertilizing them. They also cleaned the eggs with an iodine barge to kill any parasites.
Interesting! Such a cool process!
Pretty interesting facts thanks for sharing that Jay. Will certainly be a topic of conversation in the boat for opener in a few sleeps. Woot! Woot!
Thats awesome! Thanks for watching!!
I was surprised when the guy stirred the eggs and milt with his hands. I've seen many videos where they use turkey feathers for stirring them. Apparently the eggs aren't as fragile as most think. Great video Jay! Very informative.
Yeah! It was really cool to learn about! Glad you liked it too.
Jay - you really need to take care of these fish hold them in the water let them get there strength back
Biologist- done with that one chuck
Today I learnt anglers release fish, and biologists yeet fish.
Hahaha
Enjoy watching your TH-cam videos
Thanks for watching them!!
Very cool. Thanks jay
Thanks for watching!!
Very cool jay man and very informative ! Keep em coming
Glad you liked it!! Thanks!
Amazing video! Really enjoy learning and seeing the process
Me too! Thanks!!
Love the videos man started watching you last year and just found out you went to my home body of water lake Simcoe! I was trying to find a video of you there I got stoked when I seen you bassin
Don't make it up often but its a great time!!
3% of 80% is much better then 3% of a 1% hatchling year right. Awesome video ontario should have this especially the kawarthas, in scugog!
In Alberta it’s 50cm and up not sure how it works with SHL, but they are said to grow much slower here
Interesting!!
Excellent information...as always awesome content..
Glad you liked it! Thanks!
Very informative! Enjoyed watching like always
Thats great to hear! Thanks for watching!
Very interesting. Cool video, Jay
Thanks 👍
I know in the States the trout they hatch in the fisheries are sterile for the most part. Is that the same way with your walleye?
Love videos like this
Thats awesome to hear! Thanks!
How many fish per ticket can you catch? I didn't see it on the contest rules.
I like Jay's content while the pre video ad runs. #ganggang
Hmm I'm trying to understand why he's tossing them back that way? I mean I'm sure it's not effecting them but like why do it like that? Why not just drop? 😆 The 720 spinning toss technique is unusual
Look up Oneida Lake walleye hatchery. World class.
Good to know! Will do!
Here in colorado they collected 130 million eggs off just one lake alone. Best they ever did.
Amazing!
You should do the walleye wars tournament
Btw love ur vids
Thanks so much!!
Great video buddy!
Thanks man!
Big Trevs TH-cam famous now😂
I think that's badass that they are doing that they give a thousand if you catch a tag fish #catchandcook
Great video!!
Thank you!
That was a cool video. You should do some with maybe trout based programs?
I'll see what I can do!
Hey Jay, another great video. Question for ya. I live in Fargo, ND (SE North Dakota) and fish a couple of lakes. We are hitting northerns very well but we cant crack the code on walleyes yet. Where I am at in SE ND would you guess that most walleyes are done spawning? Thanks!
I'm no expert but here in Montana the walleye start on average mid to late May.
@@mtfishingwizard Where are you at in Montana? Like I said Im in SE North Dakota, obviously the further north we go the colder and later the spawn is. We nailing 24-34 inch northerns which we love but they spawn super early.
@@loboyd691 Great Falls. Central Montana
@@mtfishingwizard Gotcha, so we pretty much have the same weather, you guys are on average a bit colder than us in SE ND. Typically by mid May the spawn is done here they say. Thanks for sharing the info.
AWESOME! Love the content
Thank you!!
Great video! But how did u get into Manitoba??
Film production is still good to go.
The people out there are making a direct impact on wildlife. The people in the comments complaining about how the fish are thrown are just sitting back and doing nothing.
Yuuuuuuuup! I think these guys would notice if the fish handling caused issues.
I'm curious to know how you can cross the boarder into manitoba??
There is no check stop for Ontario residents entering Manitoba, beyond that film production is exempt of quarantine.
Yikes on the walleye bat flip. Wow
They stock lakes by dropping the fish out of planes. They know what they're doing!
@@JaySiemens they drop mature adult fish from planes? It just looks bad is all. I've never seen you toss a fish like that but I guess its all 👍
Is there a Volunteer ,Walleye hatchery in Kenora or close to Kenora?
I'm not sure! Not that I'm aware of!
Well I’m in school watching your video
Hi Jay! Cool work! My partner was stirring eggs :D
Thanks !
Why would you use brood stock that are not the best possible specimens? If fish from other lakes are growing at up to 4 times as fast (5:24 timestamp), why in the world would you not use those faster growing fish for, essentially, a put-and-take program? Not trying to be a wise guy. I'm sure the biologists have good reasoning. I'd love to know.
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Would the genetics of the male matter? If they were to milk larger males would the fry grow up to be bigger than those fertilized by the small ones they were milking?
Better funded programs have the ability to study things like this! This specific program is just aiming for healthy population numbers!
Are we just going to skip over that Falcon lake produced a THIRTY-FIVE inch walleye?
I’m really surprised they aren’t selectively breeding the males and females based on length, thickness, health, etc to genetically produce better walleye. Seems as if they are just netting a bunch and squeezing the natural gene pool into a dish. Helps grow the population faster for sure, but doesn’t help make the population better. In Texas we selectively breed massive male and female bass, and then re-stock lakes with those genetic freak baby bass. Do y’all do any selective breeding in Ontario?
As a biologist, I want to warn you for side effects from selective breeding. You have to understand that with selective breeding they also select genetic malfunctions. Like you said, freak bass is exactly what they become. Just like with all the Health issues in dog breeds.
What they do here is much better, by keeping the gene pool as diverse as possible. Personally, catching a large freak bass, or any other selectively bred fish, would be far less satisfying than catching a large wild fish. They are more rare, healthy and have really made the most of their environmental conditions. Even for wild fish, a lot is about genes, but naturally selected genes on all aspects.
I think a big factor on this whole discussion is resources and funding. Texas has a population of 24 million, Manitoba has a population of 1.4 million. As well, the share lunker program has third party sponsors (Toyota) throwing cash at the program. I would love to see Manitoba specifically spawn the big mamas, but I just don't think it's realistic based on the resources available.
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I’m in the middle of class and saw this video, guess I’ll be muting my mic. 😂
Same😂
@@seanoutdoors1705 Same 😂
👍
I think someone needs to throw the guy in the orange in the water they way he’s tossing the fish,
@Phil McCracken - Clearly you have no idea… This wasn’t to start an argument at all. Say something of substance without name calling - or STFU
When they stock walleyes they get dropped out of planes. He's the pro and I'm just here learning! Thanks for the comment, I do appreciate the feedback!
@@JaySiemens it’s all good. I’m very aware of how restocking works in North Eastern Ont. With fry , etc.
From a professional standpoint and handling fish, for me I would have shown an easier path in releasing. Thats my upbringing. To date as far as I’ve seen there are no mortality reports on release fry being dropped from a plane because they can’t track it. That’s truth. I’m very in touch in MnR in Wawa. Your channel is great, videos great and for the negative remarks and calling me a snowflake above - I laugh. Try that for real. My whole point was to say a milked out adult free fish caught in a net to support respawn programs didn’t need to be tossed like waste. The best part of this - it stimulates conversation to better a natural resource clearly we all love. For that - all welcome to comment. Reach to me private should you want more info on conservation.
Dang...Work or watch Jay... work or watch Jay 🤔
I'll still be here after work!
😳😳😳 🏈
In ohio you can fish and keep spawning walleye,
Thats good old ontario for yah. 😷 masked up while outdoors trying to enjoy nature.
Falcon Lake is in Manitoba
@@ES-hr6hbwell damn close tho.
should have said good ol Canada 🇨🇦 haha.... my bad
Just doing what we gotta do to make the video happen!
@@JaySiemens understand 💯
Ingot one thanks to this vid lol
First Walter in almost 20 years. Nice 16” male eater. Empty stomach just like he said in the vid
Thats awesome! Congrats!
@@JaySiemens been smoking em lately but they’re way post spawn by now 🤣👌
awesome video but you'd think the guy taking eggs would treat the fish with more respect and not chuck them over his shoulder
Totally understand! But they're the pros and I'm good with that!
Good stuff Jay I learned a lot I definitely will be throwing the females back I sent this vid to my 13 year old son so he understands why we throw back the spawning females although the places we fish in ND and SD have great fisheries like devils lake etc but it’s important to stick to the slot limits for a reason thanks again
Awesome!
Maybe time to start using those free coffees, hey Jay?
haha, I think so...
Always wondered if I could re-use songs from one video to the next. Now I know the answer is "Yes!". :)
Of course!
750 eggs live per spawning fish? That's pretty good, but more fish are better fish.
75,000
@@JaySiemens I was speaking of the 1% survival. I wonder how many of those 750 baby fish actually make it to viable spawning size and age?
Third comment!
First comment on your comment
It would be awesome if they only chose the biggest females with the biggest males lol wonder if that would make bigger walleye hmmm
First
Masks outside 🤣
I know what in the world...
Just doing what we gotta do to make the video happen!
Great video! Just wondering why masks outside? In the future people may have to delete videos because they are embarrassing...
Masks were mandatory in this situation. Would you rather have no video? Or a video with people wearing masks?
@@JaySiemens oh I wasn't criticizing you. I love your videos and have learned a lot from you.