I saw the plane two weeks ago and checked what versions were there. It turns out they have... you know the as3x and safe and the plug and play. And then i saw this bundle with the battery and the plane. But what if you don't want the battery because you don't want to spend an extra 100 dollars on a charger but not the plug and play because you need your own receiver and you just want to put it together and bind it or the safe because you know or have flown a lot of edf's (if you have flown edfs before) please horizon do what you do for a example the f18 one version is just the basic as3x so please just come with one out just with the as3x
I just bought this plane today...very beautiful aircraft and went together very quickly and I look forward to flying it. It actually looks more like a su-27 than and su-30, but this EDF jet is very impressive.
Why is the SU 30 no longer available in the SAFE version? It is no longer available in your shop. Will the SU 30 be discontinued yet? After a long search I was able to find a single one and bought it. But I would be interested to know why it is only offered in the Basic version.
When is Spektrum going to make a Safe receiver with more than 6 channels? That is why you could not offer the air brake and flaperons at the same time. I like to have the safety of Safe as I fly once in a while because of my job takes me travelling all the time. Same thing happened with your E-Flite EC-1500, you could not get retractable landing gear because of the cargo door. Having a Safe receiver with more than 6 channels will enable you guys to make more sophisticated and feature rich airplanes in the future. Just a suggestion.
Great looking jet. You would have to be keen to buy this at the cost presented. Much too expensive for me in Australia no matter how you convert the exchange rate. Great video boys.
E-Flite is making very nicely done models. I am becoming an E-Flite addicted because their planes have the AS3X and SAFE system already included as well as the ordnance. Really difficult to stop buying them and to choose which one. I liked the EC1500 but i bought the F4, then i was a step far from buying the f18 when as a magia comed out the Su-30 and i am really puzzled about what will be the next one to come out from the magic cylinder in the next future! Becasue the Su30 is a BBB...
@@laseonestar Full Cheers Lase, but oh boy this will be way too intense if this is your first EDF jet. It will make for some great video, but I do suggest buying something like the 64 mm F15 first. Get about 30 flights on it and then fly the mach out of this jet. If you want to buy it first and have it sitting in your hanger, that would be totally awesome and look as sweet and motivational as can be. But, ha ha, don't let it be the first EDF jet you fly my friend. Best, Josh
Pilot Ryan!!! I hope to see your review on this jet soon... I would like to know would you take this eflight SU30 or a freewing F18 or F22. My purchase is in your hands! Thanks!
Hi, I will be in Orlando shortly and would like to know what’s the SIZE of the box. And if you would recommend me to take it with my flight back home (caribbean)? Woud I have any issues at the airport? Since I need to know the exact size of the box. Also how long would it take for me to receive it in Orlando during my 10 days vacation if I order it BNF version.... please do let me know asap. Thanks
Hello Benjamin! The Su-30 was just announced and is available for pre-order now. It will begin shipping in the US around the first or second week of December (2019).
I am totally buying this....but I am going to be terrified the first time I fly it. 😂 Looks amazing. Do you have to use the spectrum LiPo’s and what is “recommend” as opposed to, if I want to use a larger pack what is the max the ESC’s can handle? Thanks
You can use whatever you’d like. They are just capitalizing on what’s new. I’ll use my same old batteries and rip out all the safe stuff. I use a 9 channel receiver and make tailerons.
Interesting to watch and hear arguments from someone who wants to sell a product. So: 1.) I like the plane and will buy it. It looks great detailed. Rear engine covers could be in other color but OK. 2.) That rotating main gears by retracting are great! Very scale. I wish Freewing would use them in it's F-14. 3.) The greatest bullshit is to take off/land from grass. Maybe stadium like grass is OK, but all other type of grass stress the attach point of gear and foam too much. After while you see cracks. EPO EDF planes are not suitable to operate on common grass. Always use paved runway. 4.) SAFE is great. I wish Spectru would come with 7-channel SAFE receiver to use flaperons on such planes. 5.) Finally detachable nose cone. Not only cheap replacement by damaging it but great way to store the plane - nose down and lean to the wall. 6.) I miss the vectoring system, but it's not so bad. It's not possible to have all. 7.) Use batteries with > 50C. That 7000mAh 30C are not usable for these bigger EDFs with higher current consumption. I use Admiral 6S 6000mAh with 50C. 8.) Not true that small planes are automatically easier to fly than this scale planes. Small planes like Viper, on which I learned also to fly EDFs, are light and wind sensitive by landing and jump by improper higher landing speeds. I await that this SU-30 will fly and land great! 9.) Looking forward a lot on this plane. Really step forward from E-flite. 😘
It fits the Spektrum 7000mAh 30C battery (www.horizonhobby.com/7000mah-6s-222v-smart-lipo-30c--ic5-spmx70006s30 ) with some extra space around it and the dimensions for that battery are: 6.6 x 2.4 x 1.9 in. (168 x 60 x 48mm) @ 1.96 lbs. (890g)
Well I've got one ordered, did that today. The weight & the straight main landing gear I believe are the weak points from what I can see. They should have engineered main landing gear with spring loaded rear elbow reflux design a "mis". A second "mis" is no thrust vectoring until you fly a vectored Jet you have no idea how cool it is... I have flown thrust vectored SU's for years. The very first one out was the Hobby Lobby SU-34 twin 70mm which I still have two. Both are airworthy to this day. I have the Green Camo Aileron / Elevator vectored version, and the Blue white Camo 3 axis thrust vectored version. Both fly very well but are slightly underpowered when it comes to vertical maneuvers. I fly at or above 6,000 MSL. Anxious to see the power to weight ratio of this eflite version, at this altitude it maybe a little underpowered. With a durable airframe I could up the power, we will see. Thanks Horizon / eflite for coming out with this product.
They're are taking my money and I can't stop them!!!!!!!!! I LOVE these planes. But I can't spend that on this plane. No way! I would have a hard time at 400 bucks. Not to mention no vectored thrust for cobra maneuvers and flat spins etc. Guess I'll just have to sit back and be jealous on this one.
Yes! You can use the AR636 receiver from one airplane in another airplane, however, you MUST reprogram the receiver BEFORE DOING SO otherwise AS3X and SAFE Select will not work correctly which could result in a crash! Even if you reverse channels/servos in your transmitter so the control surfaces move the correct directions when you move the sticks, AS3X/SAFE may be responding in the wrong directions (also, the gains and other parameters will not be correct/the same from model to model)! You can either erase/zero out all AS3X and SAFE Select settings (so you do not have AS3X or SAFE Select), or you can load in the correct AS3X/SAFE Select receiver configuration file for the model you're installing the receiver in by downloading the file from this page (hover over the "RECEIVER CONFIGURATIONS" button to see the list of model files available to download): www.spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPMAR636#prod_manuals You will then use one of these programmers to load the file into the receiver: Using a computer: spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPMA3065 Using a phone/tablet: spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPMBT1000
Well it doesn't look like a Timber, so I don't think it will fly like a Timber. The serious answer though is they are tuned for each plane they come in. So, for real, if you are asking this question, pay the few extra bucks to get the BNF. Not only will you have the RX in the new bird that is tuned, but also you will still have an RX in your Timber. And yes, I did put an Apprentice RX in a FW190. A lot of work to get it right.
@@NoonzAirborneRC I'm in same boat Heli guy for over a decade.. always accused of flying like a planker anyway.. Can a sim help with the landings? or should we buy smaller aircraft first?
@@CVSiN if you want to do planes here is what I did. I got the eflite valiant (apprentice is good too) you can land ALOT slower with flaps and get the feel for it bc you have to react slower. Plus you have safe and the too I mentioned are real sturdy. Valiant is no pup either lots of power, fly sport mild 3d. When ya get the hang of landing. I got the eflite viper edf. Stable fast retracts and flaps. If you can lad the vIPer no issue then you get this or f18...i have a f18 new in the box when I'm ready. Biggest piece of info! Give yourself lots of space to land. As a heli guy landing a plane is simple...good approach and flare. Sound familiar? But trying to land let's say like a street in the country. You just made it harder.
@@CVSiN Also, even if you buy this, also buy a F15 to fly first. In addition to Apprentice or Valiant being a decent starter, so is the Timber. Huge flaps and light wing loading. But even with those planes, this is an EDF. What that means is the time to spool up the fan is not as small as a prop plane from hitting throttle to getting power out. If you come in to slow, well you just can't do that. The little F15 gets you use to the room to take off and also can get you use to using high alpha to slow the plane. I've flown quite a lot of planes and even this in the wrong runway is a nightmare. Of course, use a simulator.
Myles Lee I would definitely recommend an e-flite apprentice as a beginner plane , it is what I used to learn how to fly and it was an absolute awesome plane!
F18 and this beautiful Sukhoi ... Keep up the good work guys! Cheers from France
Gents, outstanding offering! The details are tremendous, and I LOVE the speedbrake AND the sequenced geardoors. Not sure which I like more!
Absolutely GORGEOUS!! Amazing modeling of the aircraft. Well done, Horizon!
Andrew FlyGuy Agreed Andrew!
This is a awesome looking jet!!!
I love this jet! Flys beautifully. Well done
That what you said about it performing better on grass then f18 makes me very happy
Really, people are complaining about the price? I am surprised! Looks like a ton of airplane for a great cost.
I saw the plane two weeks ago and checked what versions were there. It turns out they have... you know the as3x and safe and the plug and play. And then i saw this bundle with the battery and the plane. But what if you don't want the battery because you don't want to spend an extra 100 dollars on a charger but not the plug and play because you need your own receiver and you just want to put it together and bind it or the safe because you know or have flown a lot of edf's (if you have flown edfs before)
please horizon do what you do for a example the f18 one version is just the basic as3x so please just come with one out just with the as3x
Been flying my f16 eflite 70mm planing on on going with the f4 phantom then this one are those good stepping stones?
I just bought this plane today...very beautiful aircraft and went together very quickly and I look forward to flying it. It actually looks more like a su-27 than and su-30, but this EDF jet is very impressive.
Why is the SU 30 no longer available in the SAFE version? It is no longer available in your shop. Will the SU 30 be discontinued yet?
After a long search I was able to find a single one and bought it. But I would be interested to know why it is only offered in the Basic version.
When is Spektrum going to make a Safe receiver with more than 6 channels? That is why you could not offer the air brake and flaperons at the same time. I like to have the safety of Safe as I fly once in a while because of my job takes me travelling all the time. Same thing happened with your E-Flite EC-1500, you could not get retractable landing gear because of the cargo door. Having a Safe receiver with more than 6 channels will enable you guys to make more sophisticated and feature rich airplanes in the future. Just a suggestion.
Great jet! How is the performance on Gras for start and landing?
Never known anyone to talk so long without taking a breath lol. Hard sell.
Great looking model...fab
I would love to be able to buy just the kit and convert it to pusher prop.. guess depron will have to do.
One question: What’s was Eflite’s cost to make this plane ?
It's incredible how far HH has come. This EDF looks amazing!
What’s the price
Great looking jet. You would have to be keen to buy this at the cost presented.
Much too expensive for me in Australia no matter how you convert the exchange rate.
Great video boys.
Darn those shipping taxes mate
Cheers
Great plane, glade you guys chose the su 30. On a side note I would be terrified to fly it. And I've flown full scale fixed wing and rotary. Lol
E-Flite is making very nicely done models. I am becoming an E-Flite addicted because their planes have the AS3X and SAFE system already included as well as the ordnance. Really difficult to stop buying them and to choose which one. I liked the EC1500 but i bought the F4, then i was a step far from buying the f18 when as a magia comed out the Su-30 and i am really puzzled about what will be the next one to come out from the magic cylinder in the next future! Becasue the Su30 is a BBB...
What is the longest lasting battery that we can put on the plane?
I'm going to love watching videos of people doing high alpha in this plane.
Hey mate
This is going to be my first EDF jet
I hope 😁
Oh boy it looks awesome 😎
Cheers Josh
Lase
@@laseonestar Full Cheers Lase, but oh boy this will be way too intense if this is your first EDF jet. It will make for some great video, but I do suggest buying something like the 64 mm F15 first. Get about 30 flights on it and then fly the mach out of this jet.
If you want to buy it first and have it sitting in your hanger, that would be totally awesome and look as sweet and motivational as can be. But, ha ha, don't let it be the first EDF jet you fly my friend. Best, Josh
Josh Weaver RC I am going to try Josh lol
I’d like to fly this
Pilot Ryan!!! I hope to see your review on this jet soon... I would like to know would you take this eflight SU30 or a freewing F18 or F22. My purchase is in your hands! Thanks!
Tyron Liebenberg lol I already have the 18 and 22. Su30 for me next. Can’t wait.
Tyron Liebenberg F-22 is a must! So just get SU30 & F-22... 😬
@@DanDaMan007 lol sounds like a win.
Hi, I will be in Orlando shortly and would like to know what’s the SIZE of the box. And if you would recommend me to take it with my flight back home (caribbean)? Woud I have any issues at the airport? Since I need to know the exact size of the box. Also how long would it take for me to receive it in Orlando during my 10 days vacation if I order it BNF version.... please do let me know asap. Thanks
Hello Benjamin! The Su-30 was just announced and is available for pre-order now. It will begin shipping in the US around the first or second week of December (2019).
I am totally buying this....but I am going to be terrified the first time I fly it. 😂
Looks amazing. Do you have to use the spectrum LiPo’s and what is “recommend” as opposed to, if I want to use a larger pack what is the max the ESC’s can handle? Thanks
You can use whatever you’d like. They are just capitalizing on what’s new. I’ll use my same old batteries and rip out all the safe stuff. I use a 9 channel receiver and make tailerons.
Terrence Jackson thank you! Appreciate the response. That’s what I thought but wanted to make sure.
I am planning on shoving whatever 6s battery goes in. And then I’ll fly it and watch it.
Oh and all EDF’s fly better with tailerons in my opinion. You have better roll control at low speeds.
Terrence Jackson thanks for the tip! Appreciated
Gorgeous bird.
I have like 4 prop planes and the F15 and I'm really thinking on buying the SU30 now 🤔
Will the e-flight 80mm fans fit in this?
Interesting to watch and hear arguments from someone who wants to sell a product. So:
1.) I like the plane and will buy it. It looks great detailed. Rear engine covers could be in other color but OK.
2.) That rotating main gears by retracting are great! Very scale. I wish Freewing would use them in it's F-14.
3.) The greatest bullshit is to take off/land from grass. Maybe stadium like grass is OK, but all other type of grass stress the attach point of gear and foam too much. After while you see cracks. EPO EDF planes are not suitable to operate on common grass. Always use paved runway.
4.) SAFE is great. I wish Spectru would come with 7-channel SAFE receiver to use flaperons on such planes.
5.) Finally detachable nose cone. Not only cheap replacement by damaging it but great way to store the plane - nose down and lean to the wall.
6.) I miss the vectoring system, but it's not so bad. It's not possible to have all.
7.) Use batteries with > 50C. That 7000mAh 30C are not usable for these bigger EDFs with higher current consumption. I use Admiral 6S 6000mAh with 50C.
8.) Not true that small planes are automatically easier to fly than this scale planes. Small planes like Viper, on which I learned also to fly EDFs, are light and wind sensitive by landing and jump by improper higher landing speeds. I await that this SU-30 will fly and land great!
9.) Looking forward a lot on this plane. Really step forward from E-flite. 😘
I asked you guys a question a couple times does it fit a 6000 mah 75c pack! I want to know cause I would love to have a 5 minute flight time
It fits the Spektrum 7000mAh 30C battery (www.horizonhobby.com/7000mah-6s-222v-smart-lipo-30c--ic5-spmx70006s30 ) with some extra space around it and the dimensions for that battery are: 6.6 x 2.4 x 1.9 in. (168 x 60 x 48mm) @ 1.96 lbs. (890g)
What is the OD of the main spar?
Beautiful plane ✈️ I want one
Well I've got one ordered, did that today. The weight & the straight main landing
gear I believe are the weak points from what I can see. They should have
engineered main landing gear with spring loaded rear elbow reflux design a "mis". A second "mis" is no thrust vectoring until you fly a vectored Jet you have no idea how cool it is...
I have flown thrust vectored SU's for years. The very first one out was the Hobby Lobby
SU-34 twin 70mm which I still have two. Both are airworthy to this day. I have the Green Camo Aileron / Elevator
vectored version, and the Blue white Camo 3 axis thrust vectored version. Both fly very well but are slightly underpowered when it comes to vertical maneuvers.
I fly at or above 6,000 MSL.
Anxious to see the power to weight ratio of this eflite version, at this altitude it maybe a little underpowered. With a durable airframe I could up the power, we will see.
Thanks Horizon / eflite for coming out with this product.
They're are taking my money and I can't stop them!!!!!!!!! I LOVE these planes. But I can't spend that on this plane. No way! I would have a hard time at 400 bucks. Not to mention no vectored thrust for cobra maneuvers and flat spins etc. Guess I'll just have to sit back and be jealous on this one.
hurry up with the UMX version
This is nice but a Mig-29 Fulcrum would be sweet.
that's really nice jet plain how much is that
Does it have thrust vector capabilities?
no.
Muy bonito jet , voy a comprar uno , saludos desde Mexico
Looks a million bucks!
And probably costs just as much!
very very cool!
I want to see Jason do some SCALE 3D with this plane...... lol ..
Hi, Dale! :D BTW - Jason probably could 3D this puppy in your yard! ;)
Dale Cheek Of course you do Dale! lol
I don't fly and I still want to get one!!!!
Can I use my ax3x from timber in this aircraft?
Yes! You can use the AR636 receiver from one airplane in another airplane, however, you MUST reprogram the receiver BEFORE DOING SO otherwise AS3X and SAFE Select will not work correctly which could result in a crash! Even if you reverse channels/servos in your transmitter so the control surfaces move the correct directions when you move the sticks, AS3X/SAFE may be responding in the wrong directions (also, the gains and other parameters will not be correct/the same from model to model)! You can either erase/zero out all AS3X and SAFE Select settings (so you do not have AS3X or SAFE Select), or you can load in the correct AS3X/SAFE Select receiver configuration file for the model you're installing the receiver in by downloading the file from this page (hover over the "RECEIVER CONFIGURATIONS" button to see the list of model files available to download): www.spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPMAR636#prod_manuals
You will then use one of these programmers to load the file into the receiver:
Using a computer: spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPMA3065
Using a phone/tablet: spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPMBT1000
Well it doesn't look like a Timber, so I don't think it will fly like a Timber.
The serious answer though is they are tuned for each plane they come in.
So, for real, if you are asking this question, pay the few extra bucks to get the BNF. Not only will you have the RX in the new bird that is tuned, but also you will still have an RX in your Timber.
And yes, I did put an Apprentice RX in a FW190. A lot of work to get it right.
This looks nice!!!
Looks good but a different Camo scheme i would like better and @ $1250 AUD is pushing it for me for foam.
How fast does it go or mph
Top speed in level flight is over 100 MPH
How much
Is it easy to fly
so i fly 3d helicopters for about 8 years now , never touched a plane but this one has me wanting to buy lol . bad idea?
YUP!!! i fly 3d and scale helis. taking off and flying will be no issue for you. the landing thats where the excitement happans
@@NoonzAirborneRC I'm in same boat Heli guy for over a decade.. always accused of flying like a planker anyway.. Can a sim help with the landings? or should we buy smaller aircraft first?
@@CVSiN if you want to do planes here is what I did. I got the eflite valiant (apprentice is good too) you can land ALOT slower with flaps and get the feel for it bc you have to react slower. Plus you have safe and the too I mentioned are real sturdy. Valiant is no pup either lots of power, fly sport mild 3d. When ya get the hang of landing. I got the eflite viper edf. Stable fast retracts and flaps. If you can lad the vIPer no issue then you get this or f18...i have a f18 new in the box when I'm ready. Biggest piece of info! Give yourself lots of space to land. As a heli guy landing a plane is simple...good approach and flare. Sound familiar? But trying to land let's say like a street in the country. You just made it harder.
@@NoonzAirborneRC Thanks John good info here.. Appreciated.
@@CVSiN Also, even if you buy this, also buy a F15 to fly first. In addition to Apprentice or Valiant being a decent starter, so is the Timber. Huge flaps and light wing loading.
But even with those planes, this is an EDF. What that means is the time to spool up the fan is not as small as a prop plane from hitting throttle to getting power out. If you come in to slow, well you just can't do that.
The little F15 gets you use to the room to take off and also can get you use to using high alpha to slow the plane. I've flown quite a lot of planes and even this in the wrong runway is a nightmare. Of course, use a simulator.
Does this plane sound as real as the F18, and how is the top speed?
Similar sound and top speed (over 100 MPH!) as the F-18!
Great looking plane 😎😎😎😎😎😎
Sasquatch shaved his beard
SU 34 next
Sir send me PDF file
That is a sexy beast!
My wife said I can't afford this.
Tell your Wife.. it has a BBC and 69 Decals on it..
LOL
Hire a Lawyer :)
does the airbrake work Also, what is a good beginner airplane?
Myles Lee I would definitely recommend an e-flite apprentice as a beginner plane , it is what I used to learn how to fly and it was an absolute awesome plane!