I think the hardest part is realizing WHEN you need to respec from damage skill tree, to ES/survivability skill tree. Its very tough to choose the moment. Depends a lot on the gear as well. Also, WHEN to go CI. And you do need all the damage you can get, to actually kill bosses fast enough even in act 3 and cruel difficulty, before even starting maps.
There’s a setting for shadows. Set it to high if you haven’t. It’s something like “shadows + illumination.” For some reason the highest setting kills my rig, and I have a 4080. So it’s not just you. Immediately turning it off made it run like butter.
Can you use maxroll guide planner to show skill tree at level 45/60/70/80 or something as progression steps? The tough part is always transitioning stuff in the tree, while remaining strong and relevant for cruel difficulty and then early maps.
Mobalytics has a build variant section. I'll update the builds at some point with tons of variants. I'll likely consolidate it all into 1 link at some point.
@NickTew Thanks. I was struggling to keep up damage at beginning of act 3 as a sorc, but used your mobalytics setup from your first video. Following your tree now and setup and im shredding beginning of act 3 at lvl 36.Like you said Mana Tempest really unlocks spark, and I never knew how good cast speed and projectile speed will help in increasing the damage. Long story short, Thank you for giving me something to use reliably for the campaign and even further
For 60 spirit you could swap put the cast on shock for blashemy, the curse aura, 30% more damage and you can support it with AOE and increased curse effect
One tip for performance i have is if you go into your geforce or graphics settings and turn on vsync via that, and turn it off in the game it helps tremendously for fps. Hope this helps!
The other things i would get is another 60 spirit to achive 160-170 to have a cast on shock, it wont be close to as good as it was but is a free increase and the difference is significant
Sugestion. Equip blink on second weapon (soo you're able to swap gear and blink). If you have spark configured on you main weapon only, casting spark will swap back. That way, you can improve mobility.
might've already been said, but another reason people say it will nerf the build when that gets fixed is because when you use EB to convert ES to mana, the nodes that give ES do not scale your max mana.
Have you checked your "Lighting" options in the graphic settings? When I select Shadows instead of + Global Illumination I gain around 70 fps, its pretty crazy.
In regards to your fps during streaming, there is a graphics option "Dynamic culling" which will disable effects to hit the fps target set on the slider below it.
I've tried this, but it basically just puts my game to like 720p and looks awful. My main issue is killing elites, they explode with loot + the on death explosions my fps just insta tanks from 100 to 60 and it is the worst feeling ever.
@@NickTew disable dynamic resolution, dynamic culling and dynamic resolution check the same fps target meter but produce very different results, the problem isnt culling, its dynamic resolution
1:38 I’m sure when the full game releases they’ll have that smoothed out tbh we’re beta remember! GAMES MASSIVE ON TOP. You can always change resolution and lighting in the settings. Even has performance settings
Poe is very cpu dependent. Gpu is fine, but a 7800x3d or 9800x3d if you can afford/find one. Im running a 7800x3d w a 4090, but the 4090 isnt needed, and dont have any issues. Thanks for the update on the build!
Hey Nick, love your videos man. Keep it up. Im playing a chrono, and I really want to try something like this build. Do you think its possible to build this build effectively as a chrono? My worry is not having arcane surge for the mana regen, so im thinking i may need to stack regen on my gear or something to compensate
Nice update vid, thanks for saving my refugee cold mage! I was wondering on something for the Lightning conduit tho, could we charge it several times with Elemental invocation and then burst the charges on bosses etc? :D
Try turning off shadows or at least making them as low as possible. Also bloom has a bit to do with it as well, turn that down to make things less flashy.
No, the best way to scale it is chronomancer. Chronomancer has a node that makes it 4 seconds again, and it also has another node that gives you 30% life recouped. Also on the tree there is a notable that makes recoup effects 25% quicker. On the regular dogshit 8 second recoup it only makes it like 6 seconds, but if you are a Chronomancer and you take that, all of a sudden you have a 3 second recoup which is VERY strong. Unfortunately chronomancer offers like no damage at all especially if you take 4 points to do this whole combo so... probably not worth it.
For your pc stuff try using a different renderer, dx12, vulkan and dx11 are all different, as well as using nvidia dlss and stuff should improve fps a bit, the main bottleneck is always the cpu in this kinds of games, since it has to calculate a whole bunch of stuff
Swap that orb of storm for the ascendancy skill elemental storm for the debuff applications the results are huge in my testing, super worth the swap. Truste me, it will trigger like every cd due to the amount of times spark hit the opponent
Hi bro, thanks for the guide, love the build. Probably gonna try it out next. I was going to try sorceress right before they nerf the original OP build and I just decide to go to another class first. Just wondering, would you consider using making a maxroll planner for the build? Its slightly more intuitive now since they allow you to make a passive tree with a progression path. It's just a much better tool right now :)
I'll consider it, I have a deal with Mobalytics but it's primarily for Diablo. I do agree that skill tree progression is important, however how you spend your points is highly dependent on your gear etc
@NickTew haha no worries. A lot of these builds are also in experimental phases as well. Maybe i will just go in and wing it and see how far I can push it without getting stuck then adjust 🤣
Dl cpuz and check your bus. Should be 16x. Check ur intergrated grpahics is not taking over your discrete GPU. Check power performance set max. Switching to dx11 can be a temp fix. Disable intergrated graphics from device manager and bios. Reset bios. Check if monitors are the same hz. Make sure 3080 in the top pcei lane. Watch wudijos video about bugs and lag.
As for the FPS try changing to Intel in settings under Upscaler. Its way less intensive and looks better then the default or nvidia upscaler even on nvidia cards.
I just had a unique helm that has Eldridge battery baked in drop. Now i need to decide if pulling those points out of the tree and putting them elsewhere is worth because my Rare helm does have a few stats i prefer over the unique.
I see you have 5/3 dex support gems slotted in, I was under the impression that the extra ones above 3 in this case wouldn't work. am I missing something ?
What do you think about shock chance jewels and skills? Does they worth running or complete garbage? I guess it should make some value in those unique gloves.
Have you experimented with using the echo nodes? They apply 30% dmg when you apply an ailment such as shock. I noticed no one is using this nodes and they seem really good dmg so trying to understand why no one uses them.
Isn’t 5800x3d discontinued? Been looking for it and it’s difficult those available are +$500. I have a 5600x my fps drop below 30s when playing coop 🫤 real nightmare
Quick question i have everlasting amulet how i can put the affix for pierce like ours or whats the currency item for do that, thnks for a lot of information on ur build really help me a lot tru my sorc experience
Thanks for this I need to get a better amulet like yours because I only have 2.9k shield and 3.3k mana also figure out how you got your spark dps that high. Loving the build so far.
@ is Poison and Bleed considered chaos dmg? I thought it was the purple stuff. So if I take chaos resist it also heavily reduces the potency of those effects on its own?
The main bug with ghost writhe is actually that it shouldn't work with Chaos inoculation. At least they have the same item in Poe 1, and it does not work with chaos inoculation. because CI makes your life 1. In this game, it seems to be converting your base life to ES BEFORE factoring in CI. Very wierd. Most likely uninteded and a bug, but maybe not.
Not a bug, not at least right now. It's the games routine for conversion at play here. The baseline is considered to be all flat values added up from gear or passive tree and level. This value gets converted and changed simultaneously. This means, that all conversion and changes come from one base value. CI does not change the base-value, but after conversion sets it to 1. This is especially important, as there are ascendencys that would lower the value of hp to 0.5 otherwise, therefore killing the character. The intention was to make it easier to understand and to remove double-dipping. So right now this works as intended, maybe a bit too good on the other hand xD
Hey bro 2 things. you get recouped from Glazed flesh 15% as life, mana and energy shield. also ive run your build but now im running Arc not spark. Arc hits like crazy.
You should look at Ghostwrithe unqiue chest.. Also my spark has 22k without needing eldricht, at just 2.8k mana.. when I have currency to swap my amulet with yours + fill the missing res from that swap elsewhere, I'll try it out with eldricht too, should make it something like 30k on spark plus 9-10k ES..
Im playing a very similar build in t16 maps and am I the only one noticing that orb of storms almost never actually applies exposure? Idk if its a visual bug but i literally never see exposure on a monster especially not on bosses, maybe like 1/20. It has to shock to inflict exposure and thats based off hit dmg and mine never does enough dmg to shock regularly even with the shock support
Not sure, maybe try ranking up your orb of storms or linking it with more dmg related supports. You can see in my clips mine seems to apply it pretty consistently
If u could get alot of life regen, there is a node that makes energy shield not recharge but works with life regen instead which means u could also drink life flask to get your shield back up quick w/o the 4 sec delay. Haven't tried but thinking about trying it but don't know how much life regen needed to make it feel good. Has anyone tried this ?
whats the point tommorow this will be nerf instead of fixing real problems with the game GGG Decide its more important to Nerf builds in EA like ok Loot system and Gearing system is not important bur Nerfing is
The point is not that it’s still functionally possible it’s the fact that people watching this will buy gear that caters to EB and Neck. Nerfed rip exalts
@@thejesse247 Oh no, -40 exalts, my life is over. I sold my kidney, got another job, took out a 2nd mortgage on my house, all to fund this necklace just for this FILTHY youtuber to knowingly promote a BUGGED interaction!
I think the hardest part is realizing WHEN you need to respec from damage skill tree, to ES/survivability skill tree. Its very tough to choose the moment. Depends a lot on the gear as well. Also, WHEN to go CI. And you do need all the damage you can get, to actually kill bosses fast enough even in act 3 and cruel difficulty, before even starting maps.
A lot of it really is just feeling it out and being able to evaluate where you are at in the process. I dont think CI is viable until at least 2.5k ES
There’s a setting for shadows. Set it to high if you haven’t. It’s something like “shadows + illumination.”
For some reason the highest setting kills my rig, and I have a 4080. So it’s not just you. Immediately turning it off made it run like butter.
Can you use maxroll guide planner to show skill tree at level 45/60/70/80 or something as progression steps?
The tough part is always transitioning stuff in the tree, while remaining strong and relevant for cruel difficulty and then early maps.
agreed, hope he sees this!
Please this!! Im not lvl 90 so can’t copy exactly
Mobalytics has a build variant section. I'll update the builds at some point with tons of variants. I'll likely consolidate it all into 1 link at some point.
@NickTew Thanks. I was struggling to keep up damage at beginning of act 3 as a sorc, but used your mobalytics setup from your first video. Following your tree now and setup and im shredding beginning of act 3 at lvl 36.Like you said Mana Tempest really unlocks spark, and I never knew how good cast speed and projectile speed will help in increasing the damage. Long story short, Thank you for giving me something to use reliably for the campaign and even further
For 60 spirit you could swap put the cast on shock for blashemy, the curse aura, 30% more damage and you can support it with AOE and increased curse effect
One tip for performance i have is if you go into your geforce or graphics settings and turn on vsync via that, and turn it off in the game it helps tremendously for fps.
Hope this helps!
You can also get +30 Spirit chest and get Grim Feast to improve sustain and survivability, you can double overcap your ES. 20K ES FTW
The other things i would get is another 60 spirit to achive 160-170 to have a cast on shock, it wont be close to as good as it was but is a free increase and the difference is significant
Sugestion. Equip blink on second weapon (soo you're able to swap gear and blink). If you have spark configured on you main weapon only, casting spark will swap back. That way, you can improve mobility.
might've already been said, but another reason people say it will nerf the build when that gets fixed is because when you use EB to convert ES to mana, the nodes that give ES do not scale your max mana.
That’s how conversion works in poe2. Everything is calculated at the same time. There is no conversion chain which can gain % during each step.
Energy shield conversion also worked this way in POE 1 at least when I played that, which admittedly is a while ago.
how did you get your 4th ascandency?
Thx for sharing your builds. You have a great calculative mind.
ty ty
Have you checked your "Lighting" options in the graphic settings?
When I select Shadows instead of + Global Illumination I gain around 70 fps, its pretty crazy.
Th nick really appreciate you playing I hope you can stream soon an find out how to fix that
In regards to your fps during streaming, there is a graphics option "Dynamic culling" which will disable effects to hit the fps target set on the slider below it.
I've tried this, but it basically just puts my game to like 720p and looks awful. My main issue is killing elites, they explode with loot + the on death explosions my fps just insta tanks from 100 to 60 and it is the worst feeling ever.
Try clearing Nvida shader cache and increase the size. Then turn off CPU multithreading in game
@@NickTew disable dynamic resolution, dynamic culling and dynamic resolution check the same fps target meter but produce very different results, the problem isnt culling, its dynamic resolution
@@dailyjohnson5583 lmfao turn off multithreading in the game. what else should he do, turn off his monitor?
@@stellar476 probably wouldnt hurt
What about Elemental Storm? Is it weak? Also what do you think about using Cast on Shock, especially since you have two shocks per enemy?
Just a heads up the tree you have listed in the description has mind or matter speced.
what affixes shoudl we be going for on jewls?
been waiting for this! 🎉
@nicktew can you move while holding down spark?
Great video! Thanks so much!
Any good planner for a Chronomancer ? I'm stuck out here!
1:38 I’m sure when the full game releases they’ll have that smoothed out tbh we’re beta remember! GAMES MASSIVE ON TOP. You can always change resolution and lighting in the settings. Even has performance settings
Not sure about that.
POE 1 was like that, that's why I quit tbh.
Diablo may have its shared of problems but man is it smooth.
@ I got the plat for game and never touched it again
Poe is very cpu dependent. Gpu is fine, but a 7800x3d or 9800x3d if you can afford/find one. Im running a 7800x3d w a 4090, but the 4090 isnt needed, and dont have any issues. Thanks for the update on the build!
How are you so fast while casting?
Hey Nick, love your videos man. Keep it up. Im playing a chrono, and I really want to try something like this build. Do you think its possible to build this build effectively as a chrono? My worry is not having arcane surge for the mana regen, so im thinking i may need to stack regen on my gear or something to compensate
what stat should i anoint the amulet with from the passive tree for this build? great video and thorough explanations
Is it not worth speccing into Eldritch will for the stun threshold and a bit of extra % mana on top if it?
Question which support gems are good for the gem mana remnants.
The Mobalytics build planner doesn’t have weapon sets associated with it.. I think it’s not updated properly in general? 😢
I wonder if this would work with freeze damage...
try using process lasso to prioritize the game for ur cpu
Nice update vid, thanks for saving my refugee cold mage! I was wondering on something for the Lightning conduit tho, could we charge it several times with Elemental invocation and then burst the charges on bosses etc? :D
How are your items on the ground different colours to mine?
Try turning off shadows or at least making them as low as possible. Also bloom has a bit to do with it as well, turn that down to make things less flashy.
Recoup was 4 seconds in POE1, the only way to scale it is an ascendancy on (Titan?). Its just not worth it any more.
No, the best way to scale it is chronomancer.
Chronomancer has a node that makes it 4 seconds again, and it also has another node that gives you 30% life recouped.
Also on the tree there is a notable that makes recoup effects 25% quicker. On the regular dogshit 8 second recoup it only makes it like 6 seconds, but if you are a Chronomancer and you take that, all of a sudden you have a 3 second recoup which is VERY strong.
Unfortunately chronomancer offers like no damage at all especially if you take 4 points to do this whole combo so... probably not worth it.
For your pc stuff try using a different renderer, dx12, vulkan and dx11 are all different, as well as using nvidia dlss and stuff should improve fps a bit, the main bottleneck is always the cpu in this kinds of games, since it has to calculate a whole bunch of stuff
I'm still following the early maps build posted on the previous video. What level would be the best to swap to the ES build?
Probably once you get decent ES bases on all pieces
Swap that orb of storm for the ascendancy skill elemental storm for the debuff applications the results are huge in my testing, super worth the swap. Truste me, it will trigger like every cd due to the amount of times spark hit the opponent
Hi bro, thanks for the guide, love the build. Probably gonna try it out next. I was going to try sorceress right before they nerf the original OP build and I just decide to go to another class first. Just wondering, would you consider using making a maxroll planner for the build? Its slightly more intuitive now since they allow you to make a passive tree with a progression path. It's just a much better tool right now :)
I'll consider it, I have a deal with Mobalytics but it's primarily for Diablo. I do agree that skill tree progression is important, however how you spend your points is highly dependent on your gear etc
@NickTew haha no worries. A lot of these builds are also in experimental phases as well. Maybe i will just go in and wing it and see how far I can push it without getting stuck then adjust 🤣
Dl cpuz and check your bus. Should be 16x. Check ur intergrated grpahics is not taking over your discrete GPU. Check power performance set max. Switching to dx11 can be a temp fix. Disable intergrated graphics from device manager and bios. Reset bios. Check if monitors are the same hz. Make sure 3080 in the top pcei lane. Watch wudijos video about bugs and lag.
Have you toyed with unleash much? Because honestly that's felt so much stronger with crits still being allowed than controlled destruction
I tried it for like 10 seconds, i'll give it another try
As for the FPS try changing to Intel in settings under Upscaler. Its way less intensive and looks better then the default or nvidia upscaler even on nvidia cards.
at start of video, how do you not failed when your honour go down 0 twice?
Does the loot filter work on console?
I just had a unique helm that has Eldridge battery baked in drop. Now i need to decide if pulling those points out of the tree and putting them elsewhere is worth because my Rare helm does have a few stats i prefer over the unique.
i had a lot of pc issues...4070 super build...windows 11....i changed to Vulkan for the renderer and I haven't had any issues since.
I see you have 5/3 dex support gems slotted in, I was under the impression that the extra ones above 3 in this case wouldn't work. am I missing something ?
What do you think about shock chance jewels and skills? Does they worth running or complete garbage? I guess it should make some value in those unique gloves.
Shock magnitude MAYBE but I quite like duration + ES. Chance probably not.
Have you experimented with using the echo nodes? They apply 30% dmg when you apply an ailment such as shock. I noticed no one is using this nodes and they seem really good dmg so trying to understand why no one uses them.
It's good just far away, so not worth the investment currently
I got a lvl 80 minion infernalist and i think im going for your, because minion suck for event on map .
Thk for your i for and video, keep it update !
How are you getting your spark damage so high? I'm level 67 and it's 1,600...
Getting a CPU with a 3D cache would do wonders for you probably. 5800X3D or if you are willing to swap to AM5 then 7800X3D / 7950X3D.
Isn’t 5800x3d discontinued? Been looking for it and it’s difficult those available are +$500. I have a 5600x my fps drop below 30s when playing coop 🫤 real nightmare
thanks sir loved it grat video thanks again love ya
Quick question i have everlasting amulet how i can put the affix for pierce like ours or whats the currency item for do that, thnks for a lot of information on ur build really help me a lot tru my sorc experience
Distilled X, hold alt over pierce to see what you need
Quick question. Why Mind over matter doesn't work? My mana take 0 dmg . literally 0
mom will not work util your es breaked
can you make a level guide for this build. I'm struggling to level up
what gems are you running
dynamic culling :) , and dlss balanced works fine for me
i know you're working with mobalytics but please put the skilltree on a different site as well that also shows the pathing while leveling up
yo i got like same build with maybe 5 lvl under but i only got 3k n spell how did you get 20k?
Can you make a video with tips for early game? I've been strugling a lot, currently lv 21, thanks!
do you think that chrono would be able to pull this off as well?
Yes but you'd have to spec more into mana regeneration rate as a result of not having arcane surge. Your cast speed would probably feel awful too
Thanks for this I need to get a better amulet like yours because I only have 2.9k shield and 3.3k mana also figure out how you got your spark dps that high. Loving the build so far.
Maybe a dumb question but how do you survive poison and bleed? I thought your Energy Shield doesnt protect from that.
chaos inoculation passive makes your hp to 1 but you are immune to chaos dmg
@ is Poison and Bleed considered chaos dmg? I thought it was the purple stuff. So if I take chaos resist it also heavily reduces the potency of those effects on its own?
@@Maginator1they are chaos dmg
The main bug with ghost writhe is actually that it shouldn't work with Chaos inoculation.
At least they have the same item in Poe 1, and it does not work with chaos inoculation. because CI makes your life 1.
In this game, it seems to be converting your base life to ES BEFORE factoring in CI. Very wierd.
Most likely uninteded and a bug, but maybe not.
Agreed
Not a bug, not at least right now.
It's the games routine for conversion at play here.
The baseline is considered to be all flat values added up from gear or passive tree and level. This value gets converted and changed simultaneously.
This means, that all conversion and changes come from one base value.
CI does not change the base-value, but after conversion sets it to 1.
This is especially important, as there are ascendencys that would lower the value of hp to 0.5 otherwise, therefore killing the character.
The intention was to make it easier to understand and to remove double-dipping.
So right now this works as intended, maybe a bit too good on the other hand xD
Use a 2nd PC just for the stream and use a capture card to capture your gaming PC video.
where did you get the sigil of power gem?????? plssss
as i know, sigil of power is a skill you get when you equiped a weapon (staff)
Is there a way to refund ascendancy points?
Just refund it the normal way, it just cost more
@ damn didn’t know you could do this, thanks!
They really should add full respec for people !
Hfs man this build looks fun.
I have 3200mana and Spark lvl 21 and my spark does 5k dmg - yours 22k. Where could be the problem?
Hey bro 2 things. you get recouped from Glazed flesh 15% as life, mana and energy shield. also ive run your build but now im running Arc not spark. Arc hits like crazy.
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This is the build i swapped to. Its amazing hits 10x harder and same better map clear. also you will get better fps lol no joke
Stupid question: how are you able to run so fast while casting spark?
get a lot of cast speed and only tap the cast button don't hold it
tap cast
It’s not a bug but they might change the node to at 50% of it’s value because yeah is a bit broken
Might wanna think about a dual pc setup.
enable dynamic resolution in graphics options
You should look at Ghostwrithe unqiue chest.. Also my spark has 22k without needing eldricht, at just 2.8k mana.. when I have currency to swap my amulet with yours + fill the missing res from that swap elsewhere, I'll try it out with eldricht too, should make it something like 30k on spark plus 9-10k ES..
Does Eldrich battery scale on %ES nodes?
Cause I tried that and my max mana didnt increase.
Eldritch only takes the ES of your gear pieces. If you have the amulet that gives max mana as extra es then that es can scale with the tree nodes
it does not
maybe try Vulkan - I think it's supposed to be better under heavy CPU load
and then ya DLSS+dynamic res
Thanks NT
1 HP will get 1 shot by Poison?
Poison=chaos dmg. Read what it does CI
@ i am new here. The CI stands for? Lol~ been searching google and it seems like POE1 has similar but I never played :C
How i get Sigil of Power?
its on a staff. and you use it in the second swap slot
@@mortenottosen4938 thx for the info
Im playing a very similar build in t16 maps and am I the only one noticing that orb of storms almost never actually applies exposure? Idk if its a visual bug but i literally never see exposure on a monster especially not on bosses, maybe like 1/20. It has to shock to inflict exposure and thats based off hit dmg and mine never does enough dmg to shock regularly even with the shock support
Not sure, maybe try ranking up your orb of storms or linking it with more dmg related supports. You can see in my clips mine seems to apply it pretty consistently
Your skills trigger orb when you are near it so stand in it and spam spark.
If u could get alot of life regen, there is a node that makes energy shield not recharge but works with life regen instead which means u could also drink life flask to get your shield back up quick w/o the 4 sec delay. Haven't tried but thinking about trying it but don't know how much life regen needed to make it feel good. Has anyone tried this ?
Looks more fun than diablo, i liked that but it got boring and most people used the same build.
be waiting new pob
Play on stem deck bro
I hope this survives.
No chaos res, no pdr, no sustain unfortunately
bugged :D
whats the point tommorow this will be nerf instead of fixing real problems with the game GGG Decide its more important to Nerf builds in EA like ok Loot system and Gearing system is not important bur Nerfing is
source? Or just a wild guess :D ?
This necklace is gonna get nerfed.. don’t build around this neck lmao.
Edit - don’t buy this neck your exalts will be wasted the build is fine.
Target spotted
bro didnt watch even 2 mins into the video - just spec out of EB lol
The point is not that it’s still functionally possible it’s the fact that people watching this will buy gear that caters to EB and Neck. Nerfed rip exalts
@@thejesse247 Oh no, -40 exalts, my life is over. I sold my kidney, got another job, took out a 2nd mortgage on my house, all to fund this necklace just for this FILTHY youtuber to knowingly promote a BUGGED interaction!
for sure ? curious if it was announced.
i have 60 spirit and i cant use archmage anyone know why?
Because it requires 100 spirit lol? Maybe read the gem
I thing ggg will this nerf