0:40 - "It seems that everyone has a 450 rally bike these days." Yeah. Everyone but BMW, KTM, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Suzuki. They ignored our urgent requests for decades. Now the upcoming competition is listening to us and giving us what we want. Kove, CF Moto, AJP, Keeway, Rieju... I hope they all succeed and take sales from the big manufacturers that tried to protect the sales of their heavy and expensive 850cc and 1250 cc ADV bikes.
@@PeakMotorcycles - I knew what you meant but couldn't help be a bit snarky about the big motorcycle manufacturers whose marketing departments try to tell us what bikes we will have rather than making the bikes we want. Thanks for the great EICMA coverage. Next best thing to being there!
the Keeway 450 engine isn''t KTM and they are part of a huge group so have plenty of money for development so suspect it is probably their own work as rally bikes seem to be a bit of a thing in China recently, they certainly have plenty of places a rally/adventure bike would be a handy tool, and Keeway are part of the Geely group along with QJ Motors, Benelli, MBP (a new brand only just getting to the market). Geely is a huge company which make their own cars and also owns Volvo, Lotus and Proton, the engine does look like the Kove 450 motor, suspect the Geely group may well be behind the funding for Kove given it's sudden expansion and fast development of new bikes and engines, difficult to untangle who actually owns what etc with some of these Chinese companies
My first bike was a Keeway Cruiser. The Superlight 200cc if I remember correctly. Nice little bike, cheap and easy maintenance. Did everything a small bike is supposed to do. I'll keep an eye on this bike. Might be easier to get in my country than the Kove. And it seems a lot of these lesser known brands who do cheaper, smaller cc bikes, are moving into the 300+ cc category, with some very attractive options for most people
Keeway is really popular here in the Philippines specially their Cafe Racer 152. Hoping they will release higher CC's in here. I have a Keeway Cafe Racer 152 and I am a testimony that Keeway brand is durable, it's already 3 years old motorcycle of mine but it didn't give me a hard time, it didn't break on me up until now.
Thanks for that. Real owner feedback is always better than some random review on TH-cam and it's good to hear that it's going well after three years. Thank you.
Wow thank you for noticing my comment 😊. I will upload on my channel my personal feedback/review on my Keeway Cafe Racer 152 after 3 years of owning. Maybe or you couldn't understand it though because I was reviewing it with my own dialect here in the Philippines.
Keeway has never gone ahead. Design copies, like the Monster 300 or the Forza/Xmax 125 scooter oder ADV scooter. The 450 Rally is a prototype, so it leaves Kove to get keen buyers first (if Kove gets its EU act together like importers and dealerships). At least Keeway is faster than Japanese brands to satisfy customer needs with a 450 Rally. Cheers, Günter/Nürnberg
A are hinting at a crf 450 rally version for next year.. The big problem is its also gonna to be nearly 2x the cost of the crf250/300 rally So well done there honda, ill be get a cb500x instead shall i? At half the price?
@@PeakMotorcycles They are what they are for the price at which they sell. If you want Honda go buy a Honda at Honda prices. I understand what he means. 😀
The Kove uses a Zongshen 450 single, same as the fantic caballero 500, though Kove has a different double overhead cam top end. If this is the same, it might be the standard 39hp SOHC version, or perhaps Keeway have done their own thing with the top end.
So many new brands that present affordable quality this year. And bikes that ppl asked for. Ktm had a chance to give us a new 390 Adv and just didn't care about that. Its a great miss with all the new 450cc bikes that are presented here. And the 450 Rally from Ktm doesn't count...that is too niche.
QJ motor is a huge group as it is owned by the geely group. Keeway and MBp is not a part of QJ motor. Keeway does not even have a factory of its own, they are more like an OEM brand, they choose products from many manufacturers in china and brand them as keeway. Do an image search of some of their products , you will know.
i don't have high hope for the keeway rally bike, apparently they are doing it just for the money because kove has done it and attracted a lot of attention. keeway is part of qjmotor or qianjiang motor, they are notoriously famous in china for producing over weighted motorcycles, e.g. something 245kg for a 700cc. and they didn't attend the dakar rally to test out their bike like kove did. also i think the design is a bit of joke really, the pointy screen and all the lines on it, what are those for? just gonna make it difficult to see the road and poke into the rider's eyes when going up big rocks. apparently the bike is lack of testing.
@@089Biker I had some friends visit the other day on a couple of Suzuki VanVans. I think they were sold up to 2016 with a rear drum brake, but you are right, it’s not 1960.
Thanks for all the coverage you are making on the different brands. Really interesting to see. And yes it is obvious the Chinese manufactures are trying to take a piece of the market. They are definitely making a push in the 300 - 800 cc range. There is where I personally have been missing ADV, dual sport and just lighter street bikes. After seeing this particular manufacturer I see they do not have any shame or moral limits. Straight copy of a Ducati monster with that V twin.. And the "rally" bike looks like a copy paste. The quality looks poor and not something I would even try to ride on. Its a shame because there are other brands that are willing to help bringing the Chinese forward and trying to make something that at least resembles of some quality. I hope for KOVE and CF moto. Thanks again for your vids!
I know what you mean, but I don't think Ducati would do a 300cc V-Twin Monster. Then again, I'm bot sure where they are sold. I can't remember seeing any Keeway bikes in the UK.
@@PeakMotorcycles "Keeway Motor Company did become a shareholder of Benelli in 2005 which allowed us to share design and production resources with the Italian motorcycle brand. This partnership has been beneficial to both brands, with Keeway being able to incorporate Italian design elements into our bikes while maintaining affordability and reliability. The partnership has allowed both companies to create innovative bikes that meet the needs of riders all over the world." -from their website.
Keeway are part of the same group as Benelli and QJ Motors they don't own them, all of them are part of the Geely group which is a huge company which make their own cars and also owns Volvo, Lotus and Proton
0:40 - "It seems that everyone has a 450 rally bike these days." Yeah. Everyone but BMW, KTM, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Suzuki. They ignored our urgent requests for decades. Now the upcoming competition is listening to us and giving us what we want. Kove, CF Moto, AJP, Keeway, Rieju... I hope they all succeed and take sales from the big manufacturers that tried to protect the sales of their heavy and expensive 850cc and 1250 cc ADV bikes.
🤣 I meant that for a long time there wasn't much choice and now there's a bit, and yes, definitely about the rest of it!
@@PeakMotorcycles - I knew what you meant but couldn't help be a bit snarky about the big motorcycle manufacturers whose marketing departments try to tell us what bikes we will have rather than making the bikes we want. Thanks for the great EICMA coverage. Next best thing to being there!
motorcycle prices went crazy, to buy a big 250kg adventure bike is not what we wanted, i hoped for CRF 500 L this year
Very nice bike. Hope we get some news about prices and availability in Europe...
Indeed. That has been very quiet.
Thank you! The videos are helpful to get a closeup look
Thanks for watching. Not all were my best work, but I'd like to think that I did the most in the available time.
the Keeway 450 engine isn''t KTM and they are part of a huge group so have plenty of money for development so suspect it is probably their own work as rally bikes seem to be a bit of a thing in China recently, they certainly have plenty of places a rally/adventure bike would be a handy tool, and Keeway are part of the Geely group along with QJ Motors, Benelli, MBP (a new brand only just getting to the market). Geely is a huge company which make their own cars and also owns Volvo, Lotus and Proton, the engine does look like the Kove 450 motor, suspect the Geely group may well be behind the funding for Kove given it's sudden expansion and fast development of new bikes and engines, difficult to untangle who actually owns what etc with some of these Chinese companies
Thank you for the info! While reading your comment I was getting ready to reply exactly what you eventually said in the last sentence, lol
Thanks Andy
My first bike was a Keeway Cruiser. The Superlight 200cc if I remember correctly. Nice little bike, cheap and easy maintenance. Did everything a small bike is supposed to do.
I'll keep an eye on this bike. Might be easier to get in my country than the Kove.
And it seems a lot of these lesser known brands who do cheaper, smaller cc bikes, are moving into the 300+ cc category, with some very attractive options for most people
Good luck. I’d be interested to hear how you get on if you can get one.
what a MASIVE variety of bikes oh lord
It was pretty big. (And there was another section of scooters and EV’s which I only noticed later…)
Thanks!
You’re welcome.
That first bike you showed, the 300 naked, looks pretty good. Might make a nice affordable commuter for city people.
Yup, like a baby duc Monster? Nice to see a 300 v-twin too.
fit and finish seems off, the side stand is fouling the drive chain@@PeakMotorcycles
Keeway is really popular here in the Philippines specially their Cafe Racer 152. Hoping they will release higher CC's in here. I have a Keeway Cafe Racer 152 and I am a testimony that Keeway brand is durable, it's already 3 years old motorcycle of mine but it didn't give me a hard time, it didn't break on me up until now.
Thanks for that. Real owner feedback is always better than some random review on TH-cam and it's good to hear that it's going well after three years. Thank you.
Wow thank you for noticing my comment 😊. I will upload on my channel my personal feedback/review on my Keeway Cafe Racer 152 after 3 years of owning. Maybe or you couldn't understand it though because I was reviewing it with my own dialect here in the Philippines.
How much that price
I haven’t seen one for sale I’m afraid. I’m not sure if it’s available outside China.
Keeway has never gone ahead. Design copies, like the Monster 300 or the Forza/Xmax 125 scooter oder ADV scooter. The 450 Rally is a prototype, so it leaves Kove to get keen buyers first (if Kove gets its EU act together like importers and dealerships). At least Keeway is faster than Japanese brands to satisfy customer needs with a 450 Rally. Cheers, Günter/Nürnberg
Thanks. I’ve not seen any in the roads, so that makes sense
A are hinting at a crf 450 rally version for next year..
The big problem is its also gonna to be nearly 2x the cost of the crf250/300 rally
So well done there honda, ill be get a cb500x instead shall i? At half the price?
I guess we’ll see? There was no mention of it at EICMA, but they don’t have everything, even if it feels like it!
Does the Keeway 450 engine look to be a NC450 variant like the Kove runs? The more the merrier in this class :-)
Not sure, but someone else mentioned that.
The TX450 looks rather short or is it just the camera?
I think it's the camera. It looked full size up close.
Keeway make solid kit for a sensible price.
Solid is not the word i would use for their products
@@gavinearls2935 Ok....
🤣
I've not had any real experience with them. Perhaps that will change.
@@PeakMotorcycles They are what they are for the price at which they sell. If you want Honda go buy a Honda at Honda prices. I understand what he means. 😀
The motor looks the same as the Kove. Even the oil filter access is tucked behind the exhaust the same as the Kove.
The Kove uses a Zongshen 450 single, same as the fantic caballero 500, though Kove has a different double overhead cam top end. If this is the same, it might be the standard 39hp SOHC version, or perhaps Keeway have done their own thing with the top end.
Maybe the Dakar people will race in a Chinese desert one day so they can race all the ying tong rally bike copies there.....
Luckily they choose the completely ethical and squeaky clean Saudi Arabia at the moment so they don't run into any such problems.
@@PeakMotorcycles😂😂
😂😂😂
It's a shame that Dakar is in SA.
@@kests it is.
I never heard anything about this TX450. What this animal is?
Me neither. It was in the middle of their stand so I thought I'd take a look.
Mi nueva moto y por 6500 euros 😊
If only! Not sure it’s a production model. Not yet at least.
keeway & Qjmotor & Benelli have a close relationship and common platform
MBP is keeway's sub brand with cfmoto
Thanks for that. They look pretty good.
So many new brands that present affordable quality this year. And bikes that ppl asked for. Ktm had a chance to give us a new 390 Adv and just didn't care about that. Its a great miss with all the new 450cc bikes that are presented here. And the 450 Rally from Ktm doesn't count...that is too niche.
Well said
QJ motor is a huge group as it is owned by the geely group. Keeway and MBp is not a part of QJ motor. Keeway does not even have a factory of its own, they are more like an OEM brand, they choose products from many manufacturers in china and brand them as keeway. Do an image search of some of their products , you will know.
Thanks for the explanation.
I'll take one for testing purposes. Just to help them out.
You are such a gentleman. I’m sure they would appreciate that, just to help them out of course 🤣
and yeah…
Yeah?
Front fender like KAWASAKI KX 2018
Thanks. I haven’t taken a close look at the KX.
i don't have high hope for the keeway rally bike, apparently they are doing it just for the money because kove has done it and attracted a lot of attention. keeway is part of qjmotor or qianjiang motor, they are notoriously famous in china for producing over weighted motorcycles, e.g. something 245kg for a 700cc. and they didn't attend the dakar rally to test out their bike like kove did. also i think the design is a bit of joke really, the pointy screen and all the lines on it, what are those for? just gonna make it difficult to see the road and poke into the rider's eyes when going up big rocks. apparently the bike is lack of testing.
Yup. It doesn’t quite have the finish, and without the Dakar success to support the design and quality, I doubt the Kove would be doing as well it is.
"on the back theres a single disc" WTF else?!
Drum brake?!
@@PeakMotorcycles its not 1960
@@089Biker I had some friends visit the other day on a couple of Suzuki VanVans. I think they were sold up to 2016 with a rear drum brake, but you are right, it’s not 1960.
@@PeakMotorcycles cant compare moped components to a new developed motorbike
Thanks for all the coverage you are making on the different brands. Really interesting to see. And yes it is obvious the Chinese manufactures are trying to take a piece of the market. They are definitely making a push in the 300 - 800 cc range. There is where I personally have been missing ADV, dual sport and just lighter street bikes. After seeing this particular manufacturer I see they do not have any shame or moral limits. Straight copy of a Ducati monster with that V twin.. And the "rally" bike looks like a copy paste. The quality looks poor and not something I would even try to ride on. Its a shame because there are other brands that are willing to help bringing the Chinese forward and trying to make something that at least resembles of some quality. I hope for KOVE and CF moto. Thanks again for your vids!
Ich denke du bist mit deiner Meinung komplett auf dem Holzweg 😂😂😂
@@romcomomg Ja det kan du tycka 😊
I know what you mean, but I don't think Ducati would do a 300cc V-Twin Monster. Then again, I'm bot sure where they are sold. I can't remember seeing any Keeway bikes in the UK.
@@PeakMotorcycles Yea sure it is an ace looking thing to blast around on for the right person... But maybe not in Italy!! :)
The 302 Vtwin looks great like a modern Moto Morini 3 1/2 ...I would like a try on that!
FWIW Keeway own Benelli.
Do they? I thought QJMotor owned Benelli?
@@PeakMotorcycles "Keeway Motor Company did become a shareholder of Benelli in 2005 which allowed us to share design and production resources with the Italian motorcycle brand. This partnership has been beneficial to both brands, with Keeway being able to incorporate Italian design elements into our bikes while maintaining affordability and reliability. The partnership has allowed both companies to create innovative bikes that meet the needs of riders all over the world." -from their website.
Keeway are part of the same group as Benelli and QJ Motors they don't own them, all of them are part of the Geely group which is a huge company which make their own cars and also owns Volvo, Lotus and Proton