Which MONSTA bat is best? M6 vs M5 vs M4 vs M2 | ASA/USA Slowpitch Softball Bat Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2022
- Today the Slowpitch Bat Bros bring you a comparison of each Monsta ASA bat variation:
'M2' 1-piece (Sinister)
'M2' 2-piece (Torch)
'M4' 2-piece (Game Only)
'M5' 2-piece (Flip Money & DNA Legacy)
'M6' 2-piece (Skud)
Disclaimer: this review is not sponsored and we're gonna keep it brutally honest.
One of the common critiques on Monsta bats is that they're rarely available, but right now the M2 and M5 bats can be found in-stock for reasonable prices all over the place - here are some links:
M2 Torch/Sinister/Black Sheep:
www.monstaathletics.com/produ...
www.monstaathletics.com/produ...
allamerican-athletics.com/mon...
www.headbangersports.com/coll...
gssportsus.com/collections/ba...
www.headbangersports.com/coll...
gssportsus.com/collections/ba...
M5 DNA Legacy:
www.monstaathletics.com/produ...
M6 Torch Mutated:
www.monstaathletics.com/produ... - กีฬา
Hittrax Exit Velocity Testing will take place after on-field hitting!
Also a big update: it sounds like Monsta recently announced that they will we discontinuing their M2 bats - and will move forward with just M5, M6, and M7 (tentative). Not sure exactly what their reasoning behind that is, but if anybody has any additional insight or speculation, feel free to reply to this comment with your thoughts!
Additional commentary below contains *spoilers* so don't read until after watching:
Both kinds of bat testing are super important:
1) Exit velo testing off of a tee shows how good the bat is when you square it up perfectly every time.
2) On-field hitting exposes how easy or difficult it is to connect with that ‘perfect’ spot on the barrel. And hitting off of real pitching also shows how the bat reacts to a little bit of incoming velocity. The M4/M6 seemed to get “bullied by the ball” as we like to say - resulting in more rollovers and slight mis-hits. The M2/M5 powered through the ball much better and created a lot more ideal loft/spin.
Could you guys make a video where you hit baseballs with slow pitch bats
what batting cage you at , and great video thank u
The rumor mill on the topic says it’s a patent issue with the M2. Not sure, but this video was great. Loved everything about it. You might need a dedicated pitcher though will for live BP. That other guy was crushing it but you had to hit quite a few balls over your head 😂. Seems like a real awesome dude though so no disrespect intended to that baller.
I like that this will even out the game some in ASA. The M2 tech is just too superior in ASA right now.
Monsta's Carl Pegnatori just addressed this issue on the Monsta fan page on Facebook.
@@mx_ata2d642 For those of us who don't do FB, can you please enlighten us?
Great video as usual bro. This was VERY detailed, and I'm all about the deetz!
Great content as always. I love the m2 but starting to lean towards the m5 now. I have the dale brungardt on order can’t wait to get
I finally got on the Monsta bandwagon last year and I am sold...I got the Bat Hound's Unleashed model of the Sinister and although it was way heavier than my other 25 ounce bats, performance was great...the balls have that crack sound when hitting them and the balls jump...i have felt that "i didn't get it feel" when i hit the ball but the ball flies anyhow...when you do feel it, it really goes....next up for you guys is the Utrip Suncoast Austin Dawe balanced 12" Ruckus and the CE version and the new 12" Ruckus Endload.....time to get these on the national radar...very popular down south Florida way...great job on the Monstas, boys
I have the Monsta Unleashed too, sometimes it's a little unforgiving, but I don't have that many swings on it yet either
What up fellas! Great video. Yesterday I swung the 25oz DNA, 26oz fallout, 25oz torch, all 2021. Great pop for nukes! One that has surprised me the most is the 2018 true North! Great durability!
Another great video! Asking again, ever considering doing a hitting tips video?!?
Just got my DNA Legacy about 2 weeks ago, got about 200 swings with a T. My league just started up and Its an absolute unit of a bat
Dope! We haven’t tried the M6 yet sadly, but soon baby soon!
Keep it real 💯
I was just using the M2 sinister clack addict today. Under-handing to myself because why not, and I was probably getting 365-375 in the air with it! Had multiple balls roll over 410 feet in total distance. Most insane bat I’ve ever used. Idk if I would say it’s better than Usssa Masburn Genesis. But damn both really fun bats!
Awesome review 🔥🔥🔥
Great Video Guys, we are using some Monsta M2 in our Team, very hot bats.!!
Gotta say my kreacher and my sinister I bought because of your recommendation and I love them both.
Been waiting for this one
Would have been interested to see how the Monsta Black Sheep stacked up to the bats in this review.
The M2 torch juiced (black sheep) was also one that hit a 104mph for you
Wow! that was great!!! I'm really digging the new M5 stuff, it performs like a broken in M2 right out the wrapper, I was getting up to 100mph within the first 15 cuts. I do love how tanky the M2 bats are, but for my personal preference, I still game the M6 SKUD. I'm really looking forward to the Torch Mutated when that drops.
I do wonder how much temperature plays into how well the bats perform, in addition to swing preference. In my experience (with both Monsta and Anarchy) the harder barrelled stuff performs better in the cold, whereas the thinner/hotter stuff kicks ass when it’s warm/hot.
What temperature is best for these bats. I’m in Florida
@@woodrowhurley2944 So M2 and M5 bats, I wouldn't swing under 50. The M4 and M6 I wouldn't swing under 60. Both of those conditions I would say are for game swings, I wouldn't take rounds of BP with them at them temp.
@@BatFlipBP perfect we get to 50 degrees for about 13 minutes a year lol
@@woodrowhurley2944 yeah, same here in Phoenix! I hear people putting their Monsta's away for the season already, and we still have triple digit forecasts!
From answers I’ve gotten back to inquires from different sources…my understanding is that…
M6 is M4…but from more recent batches with better processing of materials after lessons learned from original M4 batch
Literally just played my first game yesterday after not playing any competitive ball in 13 years got picked up by a couple buddies because they had a empty spot on the roster. One of my boys had the black listed monsta and I fell in love with the bat. So down the rabbit hole I go. Acquiring all new equipment.
Are you going to do a review of the Monsta Trippin Torch USSSA bat? Thanks for all the video's you produce very helpful my location is Yellowknife NT Canada so this content truly helps narrow down the best bats and what climate they perform the best in as well. Keep them coming please take care all.
You guys should give the Louisville slugger 4thefallen ASA bat a try it kinda looks like a Asa version of the genesis really interested in seeing if it could hang with these bats or the krecher
Would love to see you guys do this with the dna mutated fully broken in. The splitting wigs fully broke in too.
I've swung all except the DNA legacy and the Skud and I personally preferred the Flip money over everything else. The barrel on the Flip is just super forgiving and I loved the 26oz with the .5 oz endload. Great review as always guys!
dude the Flip $ is incredible!!
@@slowpitchbros hopefully the DB44 exclusive will be the same, bat looks great. I personally am all for them making the M5 .5 oz endload a mainline bat. Hoping to get my hands on a DNA legacy and give that a go.
I agree with them completely on the weighting. I generally swing balanced or .5 el and a soon as I picked up the dna legacy I could feel the weighting difference immediately. It wasn't even that it was a heavier swing endload but it was an overall heavier feeling bat altogether. Mine is a 25 and it feels more like an anarchy in weighting. -Windy
@@BenchwarmerBats who is selling the DB44? I must have missed that announcement
All American Athletics dale brungardt
Great video. What weights are you swinging? Thanks
Literally bought a Tiospaye after watching Cam swing it. I'm Sioux Indian so it means a little more to me the bat that is.
Since you like the LS U-trip bats so much, you should really review some of the LS ASA/USA bats and see how they compare with the Monsta!
I do wonder how much temperature plays into how well the bats perform, in addition to swing preference. In my experience (with both Monsta and Anarchy) the harder barrelled stuff performs better in the cold, whereas the thinner/hotter stuff kicks ass when it’s warm/hot. Great video as ever guys!
The temperature definitely does have a play in bats and balls. In the cold weather the bat barrels are gonna be cold and harder as well as the balls and can hit a ball a mile in the cold lol and in the warm/hot weather the bat barrel is gonna hot and soft as well as the balls and won’t fly as much
I know this is old but like which bats are you talking about performing better or not in the warm off cold.
I got the same sinister but green nd I love it the ball shoots off the bat fast
Just wondering , for the M2 “juiced” technology basically a torch with extra half ounce endload ?
Did you guys hit the Tiospaye? It was on the field lineup in your video was it just a repeat Torch? Or was it the Juiced version
Can you please do a review on the Fiend and Gangreen? I’m surprised you haven’t yet.
finally I grabbed the right model. I still have a new red Torch sitting in the wrapper.
If you need to unload that Torch I know a guy, ME!
Will y’all be doing a monsta black sheep balanced review for Asa/USA
Im guessing the torch is the 2021 model do you know if the 2022 model is similar?? Is it worth buying it or should i shop around for the 21 model? Iv been wanting a torch for awhile can never get my hands on one this video just confirms my hunger for one lol
I’d like to see you guys hit a DNA Legacy with 300-500 hits.
Could you do a video where your hitting the dabeers clinchers and give your input on what bat is best
You guys are the kings of the reviews. What is the most forgiving bat for miss hits? Asking for a friend.
Definitely M5.
Whats the difference between torch and fallout? Is it weighting or is the tech actually different? Looks like they are the same, M2 tech, but im new to Monsta and have trouble keeping up with all the different tech/repaints
Yo will. I am debating on the sinister or black sheep (both m2 tech obviously) but Sinister is 25oz exclusive and black sheep in 25oz and 26oz and was wondering, as someone who swings mostly 26-27 oz bats, how did the 25oz sinister feel? Does it have enough endload to feel like it does some of the driving through the ball for you? Or is it so light that you have to do all the work? Basically just asking if it’s worth going with the 25oz based on the performance in the video. Thanks!!!
I was wondering the same thing.
which one is better the end load or mid load M2 Monsta? Chicks did the long ball in our church league.
Are these bats considered senior bats? i play in a ASA bats league but I was told it had to be a senior bat. i have no idea what that means or how to tell if the sinister bat is a senior bat. i was also told as long as it has ASA I should be good to go.
Need you to bring back slowpitch bros 😢
Just bought the 2022 version of the M2 single piece sinista. Based on your opinion. Hope I love it. Never swung a 25 ounce before. So hope it works out lol
I play ASA modified ball with clincher golds in NJ. Last season I bought a 27 ounce kreacher! Amazing bat. The other game bat I used was Miken freak balanced. Great bat as well.
What kind of 2 piece m2 torch was it? 3500 mid load? Or balance? My new m5 midload 3900 I’m not a huge fan of. Just curious if the midload of the m5 is as heavy as the m2
hey Will never swung a m4 or m6 with them being lighter swinging did you feel if they got bullied by the ball a bit
Any chance you will compare the Purcell Genesis to the Marshburn?
What handle flex were the torch and sinister?
So are all the M5 the same? I seen a Monsta WMD Torch Mutated M5 for sale and didn’t know if I should get it over the worth krecher
I bought the Tiospaye from A3 after seeing Cam smoke the ball. I was wondering what the difference between this bat and an actual Torch is. More importantly, why is a Torch going for $400 and sold out while the Tiospaye and other Torch repaints are redly available at MSRP?
Thanks and keep up the great work. I have bought 4 bats in the past 2 years based on your videos here and on the Bat Bros channel and all lived up to expectations
The tiyo was 249 before this video and went up to 275 after :(
Where did you get the “not a team bat” sticker on your m4. I need one for my genny.
I'm seeing some bats that are referred to as m2 made for cold weather. Are all M2 bats made for cold weather or is there a special subset of M2 bats that are made for cold weather?
Hey I see the 2021 M2 2 piece for sale. Is the one you are using the same or is it the 2022?
Y'all have to try the tripping torch!! Please
I just purchased a Sinister M2 (woody) and I just realized that the league I play in use ASA 40 core 275 balls. I'm kind of a noob at this but can this damage my bat? I love the videos man, keep up the great work.
Yes it can. Monsta says to only use .52 300 with their USA/ASA bats. Anything harder will damage the bat.
What weight legacy you swinging with that 1 oz endload.
Black sheep vs torch vs sinister vid?
Trying to figure out what I liked more. 9:07 the sickest cut line drive through shortstop or 9:03, text book tap back🤣😂🤣😂
definitely the 2 best hits of the video!! lol
Try the monsta fallout it's sick
Id love to know which handle the torch and sinister was
What’s the best cheapest slow pitch bat that I could you use for beer league
Any chance you do the new 4TF?
You ever swing the og red The One from back n the day?
What weight DNA Legacy were you swinging?
I assume all the handle stiffness is the same?
Could you do a under $200 hot bat? And a $150 under hot bat?
I have a new KP 23 the one that is not out yet I can send it to you I would love to see how it compares to the Dc 41
Whats the model code for that specific torch? Link aint working
Not going to lie, really wanted to see your buddy Cameron hit off the tee. Curious what his exit velo is.
Which handle is better 3500 or 3900? Which would you purchase m2 or m5 given availability of each
Which balls did you use for BP? You’re only supposed to use 52COR
What do you guys do with the hr ball over the fence?? lol
Where did you find that flip money bat at
I have been waiting for this video :) I have a question. I bought the Worth Krecher from HB Sports based on your recommendation. I'm seriously considering a Monsta M2 Torch. I have two quick questions. 1) How much distance do you think the Mosta M2 Torch adds compared to the Krecher? 2) Between those these bats which one would you pick 2021 Monsta Candy Black Sheep LE or 2022 Monsta Wood Grain Black Sheep LE? Thanks!
Candy sheep
17 or so feet per 300
What handle we’re on the torches?
Hey guys I usually swing 27oz balanced bats. But really want to get a torch. I have found the "candy" model still in stock in some places. Just curious what the difference in feel would be switching to a 25oz bat? I appreciate any input you guys have.
I don’t think you’ll regret it. I’m 50 and have been playing since the days of 34 oz Black Magic. My most recent bat was a 28 oz Demarini Flipper and that was great but after an early season slump last year I grabbed a teammates Torch and started crushing the ball and did all season. I purchased my own purple candy torch late in the season and thing is a beast while not even being broken in yet. Never thought I’d like a lighter bat but it doesn’t swing like one at all.
@@ericlowry802 Thanks for the input 68 and returning to the game after nearly a decade on the tennis courts. Once swung SRV5 26-27 oz/Synergys w/ .44 cor now .52's and catchup bat research shows 1 pc M2 Monsta's the stick and rolled the dice on a 25oz
Did monsta change tech on the GO? It's listed as M6 on their website not m4.
Sounds about right considering who’s name is on the Skud
I have a tournament in may 5th for ASA and have the 2023 m5 torch autism awareness slow pitch bat but if they use a utrip ball how will that effect it I know they use ASA balls but think sometimes they use .44
So should I use it for tournaments or just use my 17 of juggy
How do these feel with average Joe swing speeds?
Monsta Trippin is COMING!!
You guys ever review the Anarchy Demon Supercharger?
Or the Nitrous Supercharged. Can’t wait for the broken in Anarchy review
Question for you.. I’m fairly new to slow pitch softball and have always used my game bats for batting practice before each game and multiple people use my bats. Obviously this will wear the bats down faster but is there anyway around this? Should I use different bats in batting practice? If so what do you recommend? I play in twice a week from April to basically beginning of November. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Depends on what bat you’re swinging and what ball you’re hitting. If you’re swinging and ASA bat with 52/300s, you’re more than likely ok using it for everything. There are some exceptions but if you watch this channel, you’ll figure out what’s fragile. Same wits USSSA. Watch the channel to figure out what’s frail and what will last.
Bats do have a finite life, but it seems like people move on from bats way before the life of the bat is up.
I buy a bat and use it for everything. I am of the opinion that BP is better for your game than “hot out of the wrapper.”
Have your favorite, be a personal..I tend to let my crew use 75% of my unused . Keep 4 personals. Let the odd person swing them.. or the ladies ;)
Is the monsta gambler just a torch repaint??
What is the difference between the monsta torch and the monsta candy torch
What's different about the Mad Hatter that made yall love that m4 tech but hate the GO m4?
What exactly is the difference in design of the "M rated numbers mean"? They all have to be 1.20 for ASA, so just to understand what the differences are.
You should do a Warstic 240 review
Review the Warstic bats they just came out!
Is the Monsta Gambler a good one???
You guys should make a video just going oppo. I hit the furthest softball I'd had ever hit going oppo. Something with getting your arms extended and hitting softballs you guys would smoke em out
So I usually swing a 27.5 or 28 oz bat and was thinking of going with a monsta. Since they don’t go that heavy is it even worth purchasing?
At least for the m2 they have a slight end load feel to them. You won’t regret swinging one.
This is the best comparison by far. I have the torch but also want a sinister. Should I get the sinister? Also for USSSA should I go Louisville balanced or end load?
You should get the sinister
you won't hate either version of the Genesis...I have all 3 models and they all perform great...now they are hard to get though so your only option would be the Genesis Marshburn with I believe a 1 ounce endload
@@brianbanks3044 Thanks for the info! I found the balanced genesis on headbanger so I believe ima go with that one
@@slowpitchbros definitely getting the sinister woody.
What balls are you using in this video?
Did you guys make a video where you hit baseballs with slow pitch bats
How many hits to break in a Sinister?
You’re using ‘unsanctioned’ Evil BP balls with Monsta bats in the cold of Oregon 😱😜😉😂
Haha well they held up fine for the most part
When you gonna restock some merch???
What websites can I buy a monsta from?
What oz was the torch?
Do you have any monsta softball bats for sale. I see you dont do much softball stuff just baseball more now. Broke my old torch finally and am looking for another. Get back at me and let me know
Our league just switched from 52s to 44 ASA balls. My boy has a sinister that we swing with those 44 balls be too hard for that bat