I insert and cap the center tub, I fill the tank with water, I then add the pea gravel, then I add the carbon and as everything falls to the bottom the lighter stuff just overflow with the water. It makes it clean enough for me.
I have a brand new 10x44 tank that I am going to add to my 10x44 water softener tank as I’m rebedding with new resin. I’m going to put new tank before the softener. But want media that doesn’t get back washed. I ordered a regular non electric clack control head and also have a new riser tube. My question is, what kind of media would be best that would last at least a couple years without being backwashed. I’d like the best media. Here’s my current setup before water hits my main house water line: One large capacity iSpring 50 micron self flushing electric filter, then 25 micron charcoal/sediment filter, then water softener, then smaller iSpring 50 micron self flushing electric filter, then three stage, 5 micron whole house filters (20x4.5 each), then the whole house iSpring uv light before hitting the main water to the house I’m also wondering if there’s a way to manually backwash this. I was thinking if I ran the water in reverse on the new tank only with water entering to outlet and exiting the inlet with a garden hose attached, that it would backwash it manually Thanks for any info!
Hello, The media you use will depend on the contaminants you are trying to remove. It is best to backwash media to ensure it is not getting clogged or that there is no channeling happening in the resin bed. We can get a non electric backwashing head for you tank . You should contact us and talk to a water treatment specialist. They can help you with your selections.
How often or how long are we suppose to replace the filtration tank or replace what's inside? My tank, with its Fleck, ,has not been touched since new, 10yrs ago.
Not good. Carbon builds up biologically after a year. I recommend yearly for all activated carbon filters and definitely not multiple years. A few months beyond maybe ok.
do you have to put pea gravel in before the carbon? I never heard that before? Also, I know I need to put a cubic foot in mine, my question is.... aren't you supposed to do a rinse out of your newly bedded carbon filter before running it through your softening system?
Yes, it is highly recommended to put gravel in to help flow rates and support carbon media. Yes, and ideally once your carbon is added to your tank, you would fill the tank with water and allow it to soak before hooking it up to your system. You do want to put it through a couple of backwashing rinses first.
@@uswatersystems why didn't anyone tell me about these additional steps when I purchased my new media and stones last week? How much time is required for the soaking and then backflushing? Should this backflushing feed in through the upper or bottom connections on the valve?
would be much better if you actually perform a real tank with media. After installing the new stone and carbon media then reinstalling the tube and valve body, is there any filling of the tank and letting it sit for two days and/or some kind of backflowing efforts? Chocobill
It is not all the same and tests taken at one time may not help. It's good to know what type of water is being sent to your home. Here in SE Florida we have chloramine treatment which means no free chlorine bleaching out of the yellow color so you should use a carbon capable of doing both there. We found one that does work well for both but is pricier than the cheap stuff. We also found that almost all the other companies in our area are not using this carbon but a cheaper less effective type that is ok on chemicals, though slower reactivity requiring larger amounts, and are not rated for tannin color removal. The only time we may sway a little is if we find the chlorine levels to be really high so we do use a blend of both by making half of it the best and most reactive chemical removal carbon. Again pricey - but the correct way to treat water. There are other filtration medias but they really do next to nothing with the water type we have here.
What do you use to seal the valve at the top of the tank when you put it back on? Gasket material or gasket maker of some sort, coat the threads with pipe dope? Thanks.
The heads have o-rings and some gasket lube should be applied to the o-ring only. Never put anything on the threads. It's a good way to cement it closed forever or damage the threads on both. We rarely ever have to replace o-rings in the last 50 yrs of service so why include a replacement each time. Also not all heads are the same even though most tanks are. Different controls and heads may use different o-rings. Just lube it and make sure it is in it's proper place.
How often do you need to change the media? I purchased this property 19 months ago and the water was great, it is well water. Just before Christmas the water has started to smell a little like sulphur. The well and filtration system was installed in 2005.
How long the carbon can last depends on the amount of Hydrogen Sulfide in your water source, the amount of Carbon you are using, and how much water you are using. Also, the Carbon usually needs to be washed with a chlorine solution to last longer when Odor removal from Well Water is the application.
hello, we're going to use 13" by 54" tank but we don't know how much media we need to use. btw, we're thinking of using activated carbon and 2 layer of gravel for our post-filter and silica sand and the same layer of gravel for our pre-filter
@@truth6600 More like 16". 50% freeboard is required and 48" of the tank is the usable space. The 6" of gravel should not move unless you have the backwash rate set to high. GAC backwash rate is about 10gpm/square foot. 13" tank is just about that so a flow control of 10 gpm is recommended on the backwash.
Same steps. Only more difficult because Iron Media is heavier than Carbon. Remove media, put distributor pipe in tank ( cover pipe opening ), pour in Gravel, and then your media ( remove cover from pipe ). Backwash new media once you have re-installed the control valve head on your tank.
@@supportsoftenerparts7976 I have a brand new 10x44 tank that I am going to add to my 10x44 water softener tank as I’m rebedding with new resin. I’m going to put new tank before the softener. But want media that doesn’t get back washed. I ordered a regular non electric clack control head and also have a new riser tube. My question is, what kind of media would be best that would last at least a couple years without being backwashed. I’d like the best media. Here’s my current setup before water hits my main house water line: One large capacity iSpring 50 micron self flushing electric filter, then 25 micron charcoal/sediment filter, then water softener, then smaller iSpring 50 micron self flushing electric filter, then three stage, 5 micron whole house filters (20x4.5 each), then the whole house iSpring uv light before hitting the main water to the house I’m also wondering if there’s a way to manually backwash this. I was thinking if I ran the water in reverse on the new tank only with water entering to outlet and exiting the inlet with a garden hose attached, that it would backwash it manually Thanks for any info!
Yes, you do. For some odd reason this important step was left out of the video. There are articles on the Web that explain How To Replace Media ( Carbon, Birm, Greensand, or Calcite ) in Filter Tank
Came here to ask this exact question but us water systems carbon tank and it came with the gravel and instructions to put a couple inches before you put the carbon in so I'm not quite sure why they left out of this video. So just to clarify it absolutely does need the gravel in first before the carbon correct?
Sometimes that is difficult because many iron removal medias look alike. Just use whatever media you choose for iron removal. Another hint is if it required regenerating with Potassium Permanganate which would make it MGS or MTM.
Adding activated carbon without a 6" gravel underbed is just all wrong. Distributors only will plug up. Carbon begins to build up biologically after about a year and should be replaced. 5 years is also all wrong. You can tip over the tank and use a hose over on a screen below it to catch the carbon. I also find it best, with the top off, to slowly with a hose add water until full. Then let it sit for a little while which when it is put back together will flush out better and quicker of the carbon fines.
Every month when my water softener regenerates my water comes out black from the faucets, sinks, toilets and showers. It will stay black for a couple days then clear up. My clothes have also started to have a musty smell and won't go away no matter what I do. The black water has ruined my toilets and showers. Is it because I need to replace the carbon? Please help me I'm desperate. We have had our softener for 4 years.
Sounds like you didn't put pea gravel in before you put the carbon in the tank. Usually you put in a good 6 in of quarter to half inch pea gravel before you put the carbon in which should prevent this exact problem happening to you
If it's possible that your company blended carbon with the softener then it needs to be rebedded with softener resin only and a separate carbon filter if you want filtered water as well.
@@chapterk-2586 Gravel underbed on ANY carbon filter of the tank type and that was not a small unit. On softeners it is not as critical until you get over 10" diameter.
I used to lean it over on a metal screen and used a hose to empty out the carbon and then filled up a couple of buckets with the spent carbon and gravel and then propped up the end of a hand truck to tip it over more. 16" were difficult but manageable.
The main purpose of carbon is to remove taste from the water. If the water begins to taste strange (like chlorine) then you know it's time to replace it.
@@edwardgreenberg8298 We recommend 6 month replacing of the filters on RO systems especially the pre-filter to help protect the membrane that can last multiple years if serviced regularly. Again with any filters do not do it less often than yearly.
It only becomes a matter of taste and odor if before a year. It should be rebedded annually due to expected biological buildup anyways. Do not create a "farm" inside by following "glowing answers"
Hi .please tell me .i have needs par day 4000 liter water. .4% iron and 2% mud in my water. Please tell me how much of the amount of carbon or resin or other medan how many kg need .and what the name of other Medan
Your figures do not appear correct. Could you be using the wrong terms? I also never heard of a "mud percent" number and I am a former director of an EPA Certified Environmental Water Quality Lab.
The company I purchased my water softener from charges $98.50 for a "cube" of carbon. It is the only size they sell. They will come out and change it for me for $100. + tax. I can't justify trying to do this as a DYI project for the money and effort involved. Besides, if THEY break it, they pay for it.
I charge $375 for this. The key is the quality of resin you are getting. Sure for $100 you are getting the poorest shit on the planet put in guaranteed. If your happy with that then ok.
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I'm Japanese. Thanks for your nice movie. This made me easy to understand how to use softners.
I insert and cap the center tub, I fill the tank with water, I then add the pea gravel, then I add the carbon and as everything falls to the bottom the lighter stuff just overflow with the water. It makes it clean enough for me.
I wouldn't completely fill the tank with water
I have a brand new 10x44 tank that I am going to add to my 10x44 water softener tank as I’m rebedding with new resin. I’m going to put new tank before the softener. But want media that doesn’t get back washed. I ordered a regular non electric clack control head and also have a new riser tube. My question is, what kind of media would be best that would last at least a couple years without being backwashed. I’d like the best media.
Here’s my current setup before water hits my main house water line:
One large capacity iSpring 50 micron self flushing electric filter, then 25 micron charcoal/sediment filter, then water softener, then smaller iSpring 50 micron self flushing electric filter, then three stage, 5 micron whole house filters (20x4.5 each), then the whole house iSpring uv light before hitting the main water to the house
I’m also wondering if there’s a way to manually backwash this. I was thinking if I ran the water in reverse on the new tank only with water entering to outlet and exiting the inlet with a garden hose attached, that it would backwash it manually
Thanks for any info!
Hello,
The media you use will depend on the contaminants you are trying to remove. It is best to backwash media to ensure it is not getting clogged or that there is no channeling happening in the resin bed. We can get a non electric backwashing head for you tank . You should contact us and talk to a water treatment specialist. They can help you with your selections.
How often or how long are we suppose to replace the filtration tank or replace what's inside? My tank, with its Fleck, ,has not been touched since new, 10yrs ago.
he said every 5 years
Not good. Carbon builds up biologically after a year. I recommend yearly for all activated carbon filters and definitely not multiple years. A few months beyond maybe ok.
do you have to put pea gravel in before the carbon? I never heard that before? Also, I know I need to put a cubic foot in mine, my question is.... aren't you supposed to do a rinse out of your newly bedded carbon filter before running it through your softening system?
Yes, it is highly recommended to put gravel in to help flow rates and support carbon media. Yes, and ideally once your carbon is added to your tank, you would fill the tank with water and allow it to soak before hooking it up to your system. You do want to put it through a couple of backwashing rinses first.
@@uswatersystems why didn't anyone tell me about these additional steps when I purchased my new media and stones last week? How much time is required for the soaking and then backflushing? Should this backflushing feed in through the upper or bottom connections on the valve?
how many pounds of carbon does that size of tank that you are preparing?
1.5 Cubic ft
would be much better if you actually perform a real tank with media. After installing the new stone and carbon media then reinstalling the tube and valve body, is there any filling of the tank and letting it sit for two days and/or some kind of backflowing efforts? Chocobill
do you have tank ready to replace and exchanged wt an old one?
Can I do this without a lab coat?
good grief
Yes, but then your results may vary. XD
Should I do a water test to know the type of media I need, or is all media the same?
Thanks in advance
It is not all the same and tests taken at one time may not help. It's good to know what type of water is being sent to your home. Here in SE Florida we have chloramine treatment which means no free chlorine bleaching out of the yellow color so you should use a carbon capable of doing both there. We found one that does work well for both but is pricier than the cheap stuff. We also found that almost all the other companies in our area are not using this carbon but a cheaper less effective type that is ok on chemicals, though slower reactivity requiring larger amounts, and are not rated for tannin color removal. The only time we may sway a little is if we find the chlorine levels to be really high so we do use a blend of both by making half of it the best and most reactive chemical removal carbon. Again pricey - but the correct way to treat water. There are other filtration medias but they really do next to nothing with the water type we have here.
Thank you very much for explaining how to replace the media
What do you use to seal the valve at the top of the tank when you put it back on? Gasket material or gasket maker of some sort, coat the threads with pipe dope? Thanks.
Never put anything on the threads. The seal is on the o-ring. Some rubbber gasket lube should be used or replace the o-ring if you are worried.
@@waterpurificationproductsi7056 why isn't this new "O" ring included as a complete replacement package as well?
The heads have o-rings and some gasket lube should be applied to the o-ring only. Never put anything on the threads. It's a good way to cement it closed forever or damage the threads on both. We rarely ever have to replace o-rings in the last 50 yrs of service so why include a replacement each time. Also not all heads are the same even though most tanks are. Different controls and heads may use different o-rings. Just lube it and make sure it is in it's proper place.
How much media do i need for a rain soft ec4 system
Good to know I have a Kinetico water treatment system & I'm having the CARBON filter added.
How often do you need to change the media? I purchased this property 19 months ago and the water was great, it is well water. Just before Christmas the water has started to smell a little like sulphur. The well and filtration system was installed in 2005.
Please call us at 1-800-608-8792 to talk to one of our certified water specialists about proper well water treatment! Thanks!
How long the carbon can last depends on the amount of Hydrogen Sulfide in your water source, the amount of Carbon you are using, and how much water you are using. Also, the Carbon usually needs to be washed with a chlorine solution to last longer when Odor removal from Well Water is the application.
Hi Sir, our source water is 700 TDS. what kind of elements that i will used? tnx.
hello, we're going to use 13" by 54" tank but we don't know how much media we need to use. btw, we're thinking of using activated carbon and 2 layer of gravel for our post-filter and silica sand and the same layer of gravel for our pre-filter
It depends on whether it is a straight inline filter or a backwashing filter. Either way 6" of gravel.
If you don't know,the rule of thumb is to leave 18" from the top so on backwash nothing goes to the head.
@@truth6600 More like 16". 50% freeboard is required and 48" of the tank is the usable space. The 6" of gravel should not move unless you have the backwash rate set to high. GAC backwash rate is about 10gpm/square foot. 13" tank is just about that so a flow control of 10 gpm is recommended on the backwash.
How to do with a 200+ liter tank? Tipping it over like this is not possible.
Thank your for this demo. I will appreciate it if you can do a video about how to replace the iron Media Filter. Thank you.
Same steps. Only more difficult because Iron Media is heavier than Carbon. Remove media, put distributor pipe in tank ( cover pipe opening ), pour in Gravel, and then your media ( remove cover from pipe ). Backwash new media once you have re-installed the control valve head on your tank.
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I have a brand new 10x44 tank that I am going to add to my 10x44 water softener tank as I’m rebedding with new resin. I’m going to put new tank before the softener. But want media that doesn’t get back washed. I ordered a regular non electric clack control head and also have a new riser tube. My question is, what kind of media would be best that would last at least a couple years without being backwashed. I’d like the best media.
Here’s my current setup before water hits my main house water line:
One large capacity iSpring 50 micron self flushing electric filter, then 25 micron charcoal/sediment filter, then water softener, then smaller iSpring 50 micron self flushing electric filter, then three stage, 5 micron whole house filters (20x4.5 each), then the whole house iSpring uv light before hitting the main water to the house
I’m also wondering if there’s a way to manually backwash this. I was thinking if I ran the water in reverse on the new tank only with water entering to outlet and exiting the inlet with a garden hose attached, that it would backwash it manually
Thanks for any info!
Hi I’ve purchased a secondhand cylinder it’s about 32” tall I just wanted to know do I fill it up with carbon to the top or do i only fill 3/4.
Not to the top. Halfway to 3/4 is plenty.
How much catalytic carbon you have to fill out if your tank is 52x12
Good Day, I just purchased two bags of carbon and one box of stones. I also have a 52" x 12" unit for 5 years. First time changing out the media.
What size gravel media? 1/8" pea gravel or smaller?
The gravel we use is 1/8" by 1/4" .
@@uswatersystems We use Red Flint #20 1.65-2.0mm
Don't you need to also put in pea gravel too?
Thank you sir. I look forward in checking it out cause i need to replace my carbon soon.
Yes, you do. For some odd reason this important step was left out of the video. There are articles on the Web that explain How To Replace Media ( Carbon, Birm, Greensand, or Calcite ) in Filter Tank
I realy need the multiport valve, litle bigger around 2 inch, where can I buy it. Could you give me information about it. Thank you.
Came here to ask this exact question but us water systems carbon tank and it came with the gravel and instructions to put a couple inches before you put the carbon in so I'm not quite sure why they left out of this video. So just to clarify it absolutely does need the gravel in first before the carbon correct?
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How much media for a 1354 rank
7
How can I tell what type of media I have in my system? I am trying to remove Iron stains
Call us at 1-800-608-8792 or visit uswatersystems.com for info on Water Tests. You first need to test your water to know how to treat it properly.
Bagaimana kalau tabung nya 4872, bagaimana caranya untuk mengeluarkan media nya?
Sometimes that is difficult because many iron removal medias look alike. Just use whatever media you choose for iron removal. Another hint is if it required regenerating with Potassium Permanganate which would make it MGS or MTM.
Where can I buy just the tank by itself?
Hi. You can find some on this page: www.uswatersystems.com/parts/water-softener-parts-and-accessories/resin-and-media-tanks
At any water treatment company that's not just a sales company.
What's the name of the cup shape filter at the tip of the distributor tube?
distributor basket
Steve
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Can you use charcoal in these?
No. GAC = Granular Activated Carbon.
Are you a gay fish?
Adding activated carbon without a 6" gravel underbed is just all wrong. Distributors only will plug up. Carbon begins to build up biologically after about a year and should be replaced. 5 years is also all wrong. You can tip over the tank and use a hose over on a screen below it to catch the carbon. I also find it best, with the top off, to slowly with a hose add water until full. Then let it sit for a little while which when it is put back together will flush out better and quicker of the carbon fines.
Every month when my water softener regenerates my water comes out black from the faucets, sinks, toilets and showers. It will stay black for a couple days then clear up. My clothes have also started to have a musty smell and won't go away no matter what I do. The black water has ruined my toilets and showers. Is it because I need to replace the carbon? Please help me I'm desperate. We have had our softener for 4 years.
Sounds like you didn't put pea gravel in before you put the carbon in the tank. Usually you put in a good 6 in of quarter to half inch pea gravel before you put the carbon in which should prevent this exact problem happening to you
If it's possible that your company blended carbon with the softener then it needs to be rebedded with softener resin only and a separate carbon filter if you want filtered water as well.
No gravel around the basket ?
He got it wrong. There definitely should be 6" gravel.
Holy shit - I think I'd rinse the media with water before pouring it into the filter.
When wet the media will NOT be easy to pour into the funnel. Much easier to rinse the media once it's in the tank.
Bad directions here. There should be a gravel base
not on a small vessel that size
@@chapterk-2586 Gravel underbed on ANY carbon filter of the tank type and that was not a small unit. On softeners it is not as critical until you get over 10" diameter.
How U gonna pickup a 16" tho :/
I used to lean it over on a metal screen and used a hose to empty out the carbon and then filled up a couple of buckets with the spent carbon and gravel and then propped up the end of a hand truck to tip it over more. 16" were difficult but manageable.
How to know when to change the carbon
The main purpose of carbon is to remove taste from the water. If the water begins to taste strange (like chlorine) then you know it's time to replace it.
I am also using a reverse osmosis filter so that would not work. Could you suggest something else?
Replace the RO filters
@@edwardgreenberg8298 We recommend 6 month replacing of the filters on RO systems especially the pre-filter to help protect the membrane that can last multiple years if serviced regularly. Again with any filters do not do it less often than yearly.
It only becomes a matter of taste and odor if before a year. It should be rebedded annually due to expected biological buildup anyways. Do not create a "farm" inside by following "glowing answers"
Thank you....
Will carbon remove oil Our well water
very good demonstration, thanks It is better to wear gloves to avoid soiling you hands
Hi .please tell me .i have needs par day 4000 liter water. .4% iron and 2% mud in my water. Please tell me how much of the amount of carbon or resin or other medan how many kg need .and what the name of other Medan
sulaman sulaman332
Use 1354 vessel with 75 liters of iron removal mno2 and a carbon filter after resin filter to remove the oder
Any doubt mail me cxcwallis@gmail.com
Your figures do not appear correct. Could you be using the wrong terms? I also never heard of a "mud percent" number and I am a former director of an EPA Certified Environmental Water Quality Lab.
The company I purchased my water softener from charges $98.50 for a "cube" of carbon. It is the only size they sell. They will come out and change it for me for $100. + tax. I can't justify trying to do this as a DYI project for the money and effort involved. Besides, if THEY break it, they pay for it.
The home service call in includes the carbon.
Claude Vann My company is gypping me---they charged $ 300 !
That is a good price. Most dealers do charge 2x or 3x as much for this product and service.
I've been charged $200. Is that good?
I charge $375 for this. The key is the quality of resin you are getting. Sure for $100 you are getting the poorest shit on the planet put in guaranteed. If your happy with that then ok.
Thanks
Have a easier way to take the carbon out of a tank without lifting the system at all. It takes no more than 5 minutes
care to say what that way is?
@@swsquish No, it's a trade secret.
take the strainer off the uplift pipe... flush the vessel. carbon comes out.
I always knew the media was dirty
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