The guy who won, Peter Dempsey, is the only one of the four never to race an IndyCar. That was his only Indy Lights win. He now owns a USF Pro2000 team and one of his drivers, Lochie Hughes, won the first race of the year last weekend in St. Pete.
I've seen that FOUR-wide finish in Indy Lights several times before (still one of the greatest finishes in ALL of racing, period.), but that MX-5 Cup finish, holy hell. *A SINGLE THOUSANDTH of a second between first and second. That's insane.*
Having been to Daytona for the 24 the past two years, the MX-5's are easily the best 45 minutes of track time on Thursday and Friday. Especially 2023's Thursday race.
@@insertcolorherehawk3761 I understand that it’s not the same series and it’s more of a variety of branches, but Arca, Mernards, and NASCAR’s 3 main series are kindov like one series with different branches. If that makes any sense
@@insertcolorherehawk3761that is true. Idk why that matters to his point? He's saying NASCAR as a whole creates close finishes... Which is true... I'd much rather watch some of the best racing every week than just watch Max or Lewis win everything every day all the time in F1... And in WEC Penske and/or Ferrari win everything... Heck we showed up to Lemans this year with a NASCAR and went faster than any of your cars that aren't driving computers... 😂😂😂
@@AZ_sports_are_betterBecause I'm being pedantic and that Modifieds *aren't regular stock cars* Also, that ignores Indy and maybe I should lump F2 and F3 into describing F1?
Makes me really happy to see someone putting the modifieds in a video like this with the rest of the worlds top motorsports series. I love driving my modifieds
Thanks, though I still believe I missed a few. There should be another 3 wide finish involving bike racing in this video but it got claimed and prevented to be shown, so it didn't make the cut.
And Portland '97. Yeah, there are a bunch and I'm sure there have been plenty of three-wide finishes in grassroots divisions that were never televised, so I don't think making a video including all such finishes would be possible.
There's also the bike racing 3 wide finish from MotoGP's feeder series in 2015 that was originally meant to be in this video but unfortunately Dorna gets pissy about it and blocked that part. 😔
That 2013 finish was ruined by the caution coming down early before they crossed the finish line, so that didn't make it to the list. There was also 2021 Wawa 250 that almost made the list if not for Justin Allgaier who was pushing AJ Allmendinger stole the P3 from Jeb Burton
The mazda last lap was amazing. Love the battle with actual grass runoff, dirt in the air, different lines to try to beat on corners entry vs exit. I wish f1 could be like this
I did explained in the description that this would only count by the time the series had implemented electronic timing and scoring, and NASCAR only started implementing that from 1993 onwards. But on second thought, since I did rough estimations on the 2nd and 3rd clip, I do think that should count as one. So when there's a Part 2 of this, that 1981 Dega finish should be included. Thanks for your suggestion! :)
Is Kyle the only driver in the vid 2 times? he truly is an insane racecar driver. Used to drive for my uncle I think that's him on the radio in the 2007 race. Always said Kyle can drive the car to the max potential and he's one not to be fucked with when racing lol.. Hope he does good this season
For directly involved in the battle for the victory? Yeah Kyle made it twice here. There's also Travis Kvapil but he's not a direct contender in that 2003 Truck race at Daytona.
That was a great finish but unfortunately that didn't count as three-wide finish because Raul Boesel never went alongside Mark Blundell, his car's nose not even reached Blundell's rear tire when they crossed the line. I would like to assume that because Boesel almost level on Gil De Ferran the other side, who himself was properly alongside Blundell might gave you the impression of a three-wide finish. Thanks for the suggestion though! :)
There was another 3-wide Indy Lights finish at Chicagoland I think in 2003 or 4 when it was the Indy Pro series. Ed Carpenter won it. Not sure how close that one was but I remember them finishing 3 wide...
Ed Carpenter didn't win the race, it was Mark Taylor. Ed finished 2nd, but it was indeed a three wide finish albeit not as close as anything in here. Unfortunately there's no full race footages nor the finish clips of it available anywhere on the internet, tried scouring on TH-cam and Google (I even enter page 2 of the search results lol) and nothing came up other than the images.
That's between top two. The thing that counts here are the margin between top 3 in a three-wide finish scenario, which is why the 2011 Dega race ranks quite low in this compilation.
The 2021 Wawa 250? That was _almost_ a three-wide finish but Justin Allgaier, who was pushing AJ Allmendinger, stole P3 under Jeb Burton who was on the bottom lane.
Well at least in the case of battle for the win it rarely happened on the rest of the world AFAIK. There have been few three-wide finishes that I know of but they're not battles for the win, only for podium places and anything lower than that, so those didn't count. I think I have replied twice for something similar to this question, but there should be another clip here that's properly from outside the US (and it's a bike racing, too), but unfortunately that one got claimed and prevented from being shown to the public so that didn't make it to the final video.
I think it really goes to show how much American motorsport has figured out how to make race finishes more exciting when they are every clip in here but 1
Everything in this video are all American series though, even that Mazda MX-5 Cup 😅 Well there should be another finish that's properly outside US but unfortunately that got claimed and prevented to be shown, so that didn't make the cut.
johnson shouldve been black flagged for that dega win...he dropped left sides below the yellow line. every other driver whos done that gets black flagged...but nascar wanted their golden boy to win so they looked the other way...no one even mentioned it
Well then Tony Stewart should be given black flag too in 2008 fall Dega race, or Dale Jr. in 2004 fall Dega race. Or Elliott Sadler who was under the yellow line in 2015 Xfinity fall Dega race, or Denny Hamlin in 2020 race of, you guessed it, fall Dega, and so on. I'm just saying, the problem is not on the driver that wins the race, but NASCAR's inconsistent interpretation and implementation of the yellow line rule at Daytona and Talladega. But you do you if you hate JJ. 🤷🏻♂️
I hope that was sarcasm 😅 But if not, F1 never had three-wide finishes in their entire history up until this point. The closest one we got to that was the 1971 Italian GP, where top 3 was separated by 0.09 seconds but François Cevert who finished P3 never went alongside the top 2 at the line
@@kalebdegroot7825 The reason why it's not possible isn't a track size issue, it's just because there is nearly never a pass between them, they just follow each others. The first who pass the finish, who's nearly always the same, has plenty seconds ahead the second. So no, this is the real reason why 3 wide finish isn't possible. Even 2 wide finish seems to be impossible too. This is the most boring motorsport ever.
The difference between the cars is just too great. The field keeps finishing races in performance order for that track almost every time. Driver skill only ends up causing +/- 2 positions over the average F1 race. Quickest solution is to somehow increase the number of accidents & breakdowns per race which would mix the grid up more often. Maybe tell Pirelli to go back to making tyres that randomly explode, since that was the only big source of excitement in the past 5 years of F1 honestly.
I’ve watched it quite a few times in the last 2 weeks, but this is the first time I’ve noticed either Clint or Kevin can be barely heard on a hot mic (I assume they muted their own) they think it was Suarez while it was still under race review. Obviously the Play by Play mic would still be on.
Happy to be included in there :)
Cheers to you dude, you're a legend to grassroots motorsports lovers!
Congrats dude. True motorsports fan if you're watching small channels like this.
Hell yeah! Go get it again Friday!
Amazing run!!
4 wide finish actually dropped my jaw. unbelievable
Freedom 100 needs to return to the Month of May for sure 😔
They did the same thing in the nascar xfinity series at Indy. Unfortunately it was for a stage win lol
It was 0.039 from 1st to 4th
@@DannyPlaysStuff Under Penske I don't think it'll ever return...
The guy who won, Peter Dempsey, is the only one of the four never to race an IndyCar. That was his only Indy Lights win. He now owns a USF Pro2000 team and one of his drivers, Lochie Hughes, won the first race of the year last weekend in St. Pete.
"THEY'VE ALL WON IT" is possibly one of the most underrated motrsport calls in history
God bless Hindy
replace "underrated" with "stupidest" and yes
@@ChevchukRacing🤓
Amazing call haha.
THEYVE ALL WON IT
I've seen that FOUR-wide finish in Indy Lights several times before (still one of the greatest finishes in ALL of racing, period.), but that MX-5 Cup finish, holy hell.
*A SINGLE THOUSANDTH of a second between first and second. That's insane.*
If you've never had the pleasure of watching the Mx5s race, you gotta. It is some of the best racing you'll ever watch.
Having been to Daytona for the 24 the past two years, the MX-5's are easily the best 45 minutes of track time on Thursday and Friday. Especially 2023's Thursday race.
W modified recognition
I like how the first 9 minutes is just NASCAR, goes to show how many close and exciting finishes the series has had.
The various series had, since Modifieds, Trucks, and “Late Model” (Cup) cars don’t actually race in the same series like a multiclass circuit
@@insertcolorherehawk3761 I understand that it’s not the same series and it’s more of a variety of branches, but Arca, Mernards, and NASCAR’s 3 main series are kindov like one series with different branches. If that makes any sense
@@insertcolorherehawk3761that is true. Idk why that matters to his point?
He's saying NASCAR as a whole creates close finishes... Which is true...
I'd much rather watch some of the best racing every week than just watch Max or Lewis win everything every day all the time in F1... And in WEC Penske and/or Ferrari win everything...
Heck we showed up to Lemans this year with a NASCAR and went faster than any of your cars that aren't driving computers... 😂😂😂
@@AZ_sports_are_better Well as far as I know Penske didn't win 1 single race in WEC. You can't say this about it
@@AZ_sports_are_betterBecause I'm being pedantic and that Modifieds *aren't regular stock cars*
Also, that ignores Indy and maybe I should lump F2 and F3 into describing F1?
An actual 4 wide finish. Incredible.
Mx5 racing is always exciting
2:34 pit crew wearing cycling helmets cracks me up for some reason.
Makes me really happy to see someone putting the modifieds in a video like this with the rest of the worlds top motorsports series. I love driving my modifieds
Keep the hustle 🫡
That indy lights 4 wide finish is insane
I was at Chicagoland for that Indy car race the entire race was awesome
Man the trucks in the mid 2000s sounded awesome
Wow dude, incredible research. I love these kinds of videos, great job!
Thanks, though I still believe I missed a few.
There should be another 3 wide finish involving bike racing in this video but it got claimed and prevented to be shown, so it didn't make the cut.
im still convinced that Mx-5 cup is the peak of motorsport
Forgot 2013 Nationwide Series at Talladega
And Portland '97. Yeah, there are a bunch and I'm sure there have been plenty of three-wide finishes in grassroots divisions that were never televised, so I don't think making a video including all such finishes would be possible.
There's also the bike racing 3 wide finish from MotoGP's feeder series in 2015 that was originally meant to be in this video but unfortunately Dorna gets pissy about it and blocked that part. 😔
That 2013 finish was ruined by the caution coming down early before they crossed the finish line, so that didn't make it to the list.
There was also 2021 Wawa 250 that almost made the list if not for Justin Allgaier who was pushing AJ Allmendinger stole the P3 from Jeb Burton
I really appreciate you responding to all comments and suggestions on top of the well done research for the vid! 👍👍👍
Cheers 😄
The mazda last lap was amazing. Love the battle with actual grass runoff, dirt in the air, different lines to try to beat on corners entry vs exit. I wish f1 could be like this
I think there was a 3 wide finish at Rockingham in the Busch series back in the 90’s won by Todd Bodine
1995 AC Delco 200 is already on the shortlist for part 2 😊
I was there in person for the 2019 NHMS Wheelen Tour, it was hot as hell upwards of 100F that summer but it was worth going to watch
Greatest Photo Finished 3 Abreast In NASCAR History 1981 Talladega 500
I did explained in the description that this would only count by the time the series had implemented electronic timing and scoring, and NASCAR only started implementing that from 1993 onwards.
But on second thought, since I did rough estimations on the 2nd and 3rd clip, I do think that should count as one. So when there's a Part 2 of this, that 1981 Dega finish should be included. Thanks for your suggestion! :)
That's Amazing
Is Kyle the only driver in the vid 2 times? he truly is an insane racecar driver. Used to drive for my uncle I think that's him on the radio in the 2007 race. Always said Kyle can drive the car to the max potential and he's one not to be fucked with when racing lol.. Hope he does good this season
For directly involved in the battle for the victory? Yeah Kyle made it twice here.
There's also Travis Kvapil but he's not a direct contender in that 2003 Truck race at Daytona.
Rick Allen started his trademark final turn speech a little prematurely at 6:20
CART race at Portland in 97
had a 3 wide finish with Mark Blundell winning
That was a great finish but unfortunately that didn't count as three-wide finish because Raul Boesel never went alongside Mark Blundell, his car's nose not even reached Blundell's rear tire when they crossed the line. I would like to assume that because Boesel almost level on Gil De Ferran the other side, who himself was properly alongside Blundell might gave you the impression of a three-wide finish.
Thanks for the suggestion though! :)
There was another 3-wide Indy Lights finish at Chicagoland I think in 2003 or 4 when it was the Indy Pro series. Ed Carpenter won it. Not sure how close that one was but I remember them finishing 3 wide...
Ed Carpenter didn't win the race, it was Mark Taylor. Ed finished 2nd, but it was indeed a three wide finish albeit not as close as anything in here.
Unfortunately there's no full race footages nor the finish clips of it available anywhere on the internet, tried scouring on TH-cam and Google (I even enter page 2 of the search results lol) and nothing came up other than the images.
@@DannyPlaysStuff you're right my bad! I just remembered Bob Jenkins saying his name I just left Taylor out of it in my memory 🙃
2013 freedom 100 dare I say best finish in Motorsport history
Agreed
The 2013 Freedom 100 finish will always be my favorite.
Yet another banger brought to you by Jimcord
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Man that 2003 truck finish was Cool, certainly the winner won't ever be convicted for horrendous sex crimes against children
Holy crap, that MX-5 finish was incredible!
It's not every day you get to see your favorite NASCAR driver (Johnny Benson) & favorite IndyCar driver (Tony Kanaan) in the same montage.
Love it! 😊
I like how 80% of them are NASCAR
Rick Allen is the bane of my motorsports existence.
Great vid
"Oval racing is boring" mfs after seeing this 😲
if this dont put a grin on your face, you're dead inside
Mods at New Hampshire had a legit tie in 2008. Ted Christopher and Chuck Hossfeld
Mods at loudan never disappoint
I LOVE 3 WIDE FINISHES
Where is the 2005 Piston Cup final at the Dinoco 400?
The only three-way tie in motorsport history and it's not in here?! That's crazy
hearing ralphs voice in the first clip sent me back
Stock car oval racing probably has the most photo finishes of any motorsport out there.
The 2011 Talladega cup was 0.002, tied for closest in NASCAR
That's between top two.
The thing that counts here are the margin between top 3 in a three-wide finish scenario, which is why the 2011 Dega race ranks quite low in this compilation.
how could you leave out the 2006 Dinoco 400?
where was that one xfinity summer daytona finish?
The 2021 Wawa 250? That was _almost_ a three-wide finish but Justin Allgaier, who was pushing AJ Allmendinger, stole P3 under Jeb Burton who was on the bottom lane.
@@DannyPlaysStuff after looking at it, you right. I swear it was 3 wide
This is why I love American series as a Finn.
You forgot the 1997 ARCA Reeses 400K
Thank you!
That'll definitely be in part 2 if I have enough data of other finishes 😊
Something F1 could never do but F1 and all racing is fun to watch
didn't the mx5s also have a5 wide finish on Daytona or am I remembering wrong. mx5s have the best racing of any series
2:30 It's Rick Crawford making the pass! At the 12 year old
Honestly I liked him when he was racing and now the mere mention of his name turns my stomach 😞
DW: I believe he got him by an inch!
TWO ONE THOUSANDTHS OF A SECOND HE BEAT BOWYER!
DW: Okay, a 1/16th of an inch!
😂😂😂😂😂
Would love to see some older ones.
If there's enough footages of them I will make a part 2 :)
Same
You forgot the 1995 Busch Series AC-Delco 200 race at Rockingham.
Thank you!
If I had enough data of other finishes outside from anything in this video, it will certainly gonna be on the Part 2 :)
10:13 remember what Roger Penske took away from you 😢😪
So it never happened outside of US or you only included US?
Well at least in the case of battle for the win it rarely happened on the rest of the world AFAIK. There have been few three-wide finishes that I know of but they're not battles for the win, only for podium places and anything lower than that, so those didn't count.
I think I have replied twice for something similar to this question, but there should be another clip here that's properly from outside the US (and it's a bike racing, too), but unfortunately that one got claimed and prevented from being shown to the public so that didn't make it to the final video.
Like cars 1
Man they’ve really screwed the sound of nascar engines even the 07 trucks sounded amazing
I would like to see Motorsport final lap crashes
wheres McQueen chick and the king?
truck series was cooking at superspeedways
Truck Series at superspeedways either create massive bangers or turned into demolition derby, with occasional snoozefest in between
I think it really goes to show how much American motorsport has figured out how to make race finishes more exciting when they are every clip in here but 1
Everything in this video are all American series though, even that Mazda MX-5 Cup 😅
Well there should be another finish that's properly outside US but unfortunately that got claimed and prevented to be shown, so that didn't make the cut.
@@DannyPlaysStuff damn that actually sucks
What about CART at Portland in 97
I have already responded to a similar question here so you can look it up but TL;DR, it wasn't a three wide finish
5:21
This was 0.002
That was between the top 2. The title says"...All Three-wide FInishes"
Needs an update ;)
2 updates, nascar cup at kansas and cars tour from Langley
So we aren't counting the 1959 daytona 500
that involved a lap car.
johnson shouldve been black flagged for that dega win...he dropped left sides below the yellow line. every other driver whos done that gets black flagged...but nascar wanted their golden boy to win so they looked the other way...no one even mentioned it
Well then Tony Stewart should be given black flag too in 2008 fall Dega race, or Dale Jr. in 2004 fall Dega race. Or Elliott Sadler who was under the yellow line in 2015 Xfinity fall Dega race, or Denny Hamlin in 2020 race of, you guessed it, fall Dega, and so on.
I'm just saying, the problem is not on the driver that wins the race, but NASCAR's inconsistent interpretation and implementation of the yellow line rule at Daytona and Talladega. But you do you if you hate JJ. 🤷🏻♂️
@@DannyPlaysStuff im all for consistent callings. Which NASCAR doesnt do
Pretty hard for their short term memory.
Then again NASCAR has been doing this kind of inconsistent calls for decades so it is what it is.
Modifieds are best girl
Why not include all of the F1 three wide finishes....
😂
I hope that was sarcasm 😅
But if not, F1 never had three-wide finishes in their entire history up until this point. The closest one we got to that was the 1971 Italian GP, where top 3 was separated by 0.09 seconds but François Cevert who finished P3 never went alongside the top 2 at the line
@@DannyPlaysStuff OH, it was sarcasm for sure.
Not a single F1 finish here ?
What a FKG surprise !!!
Open wide your eyes tiny F1 fans, this is REAL racing !
You can’t really have 3 wide finishes on F1 tracks. There’s not enough room.
@@kalebdegroot7825 The reason why it's not possible isn't a track size issue, it's just because there is nearly never a pass between them, they just follow each others. The first who pass the finish, who's nearly always the same, has plenty seconds ahead the second. So no, this is the real reason why 3 wide finish isn't possible. Even 2 wide finish seems to be impossible too. This is the most boring motorsport ever.
The difference between the cars is just too great.
The field keeps finishing races in performance order for that track almost every time. Driver skill only ends up causing +/- 2 positions over the average F1 race.
Quickest solution is to somehow increase the number of accidents & breakdowns per race which would mix the grid up more often.
Maybe tell Pirelli to go back to making tyres that randomly explode, since that was the only big source of excitement in the past 5 years of F1 honestly.
"Promosm"
Based Allah stream
I’ve watched it quite a few times in the last 2 weeks, but this is the first time I’ve noticed either Clint or Kevin can be barely heard on a hot mic (I assume they muted their own) they think it was Suarez while it was still under race review. Obviously the Play by Play mic would still be on.
I didn't catch it though, I might need to listen to it again.
@@DannyPlaysStuff
18:03
And I mean it’s incredibly low.
Oh yeah I hear it now, had to crank up the volume to barely hear it though.
Sounds like it was Clint saying that. Good catch!