@@johnzimmerman7798 Ironically used market prices show all that crap about them. Does your face itches ? From all that clown make up you ware defending olympic crap cars.
Did a thermostat on a friends, $95 dollars for the part and that was years back. They are sharp and run strong though. The HSE 5.0 was my favorite on the lot. The owners wife took a Land Rover on the customer test track and toppled it over sideways. Some days are awesome even at work. She wasn't harmed FYI.
The Car Wizard seems very happy with his wife's Evoke. The Land Rover Defender in Europe had Ford Transit diesel engines and those are pretty reliable, plus if you need to change them they are plentiful.
I'm still watching the ads, hard NO. Worked as a lot porter and detailed at Bennett jaguar/Range Rover in college. Become a Range Rover tech you'll have great job security. Ok now I'm gonna watch ha.
I personally have a ranger rover for about 3 years already. Though it might have some few minor breakdowns such as lighting/electrical seats. However, I think that the interior and exterior is unbelievably comfortable. I honestly think that it’s just a personal preference about these cars. In conclusion I think that it’s a good investment to make. :)
A good investment, I like you. Since your into investments, i have a bridge I want to sell. It's in New York. I have the paperwork ready for you to review and sign. It's solid construction and has a good history. Lmao. Doug Demuro, Scotty Kilmer, Chris Fix, Eric the car Guy, all know that Land and Range Rovers are as reliable as a used rusted can opener, when all your food is in cans. Your screwed. Go to TRLs page they brought a brand new Land Rover and the first week it was in the dealership because the check engine light came.on andn2 sensor need to be replaced. How the hell did it come off the line and it was sold and already ends up in the shop and ot wasn't a recall.
Reading some of these comments, anyone would think that all JLRs broke down all the time. They don’t. I’ve had four and they have been completely reliable, only been in the shop for service and the extended warranty I paid for proved to be a complete waste of money. They have a poor reputation of course and they are not without their problems as a brand but then I had a Q8 for 18 months which spent nine weeks in the shop until I lost patience with it and went back to a Range Rover.
@@MrPeterthepilot Sounds like you got the best apples from the bad tree, I've never seen anyone drive a land Rover past 30-60k without hefty issues, hell most land Rovers i see around my area never move out of parking
Sold my 2006 range rover years ago. While drive the other day on my Toyota, i came across my sold Rover, it was on a towing truck with the new owner looking all frustrated 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well in my experience, I’ve owned my 2003 Range Rover HSE (M62TU) best car hands down. Original 230,000 miles with timing chain guides replaced at maintenance.
My 05 hse has the same setup. Did the vanos rebuild and timing chain guides. Owned it for 5 years its been very reliable for an old car currently 168,000 on it. I will never sale it its not worth anything but its been a good suz for me
@Super Mom Toy collector would you advise then for someone looking into purchasing one what to look out for? I know my way around a wrench and do all maintance for myself (Eclipse 2003 GTS)
Hey you're right buddy. Doug demuro bought his land rover through carmax. I think with a 100000 mile warranty and he's taken it back 12 times for the same issue!check out that video.
Junk i even seen a guy with one had to replace his transmission twice and engine rebuilt and damn supercharger going out he had to pay up nearly 6 -7,000 im like just buy a new car fuck that
The main problem with the LR 4 is the Low quality Timing Chain Tensioners and Guides. They can be upgraded and then they are reliable. I don't recommend people to buy a Range Rover/ Land Rover unless they are a professional mechanic. The Dealer wants $ 10,000 to replace the Timing Chains, Guides, Tensioners, Camshaft Sprockets, etc. There are expensive special tools required to work on Land Rovers. I purchase high- end cars & trucks as a hobby. I perform all repairs and maintenance in house.
I'm an Englishman who has been driving Land Rovers products for over twenty years and can honestly say there is no place more comfortable to be.... ....whilst waiting for a tow truck!
Land Rover jaguar makes best looking cars all the models are beautiful except discovery 5 ( front looks stunning except side and back ) , in Mexico they discontinue jaguar sedan , fortunately I got a 2013 25000km XFR , I won’t sell it never . My wife wants a Range Rover sport , we went to dealer , it costs 150 grand USD . The price is crazy right now
No, man! Listen to yourself... if no one's buying them, well, then how is the company surviving... and thriving, consistently pumping out newer, fresher models year after year? Clearly, its got huge market that willingly hands over huge margins in places you know nothing about. We happily use an Evoke, 2013, and now in market for the big daddy, 2019-2021 model. Super happy with these machines.
I really don’t know what the market is like in your area, but where I am, a nicely cared for older LR/RR, without a BMW engine, is always in demand ... especially the Ford derived V8 models (such as the Sport HSE) and the 90s/early 2000s Discos and Disco II. The P38 Range Rovers a little less so unless they are very clean and lower miles. The older Rovers, 2002-2004, seemed to suffer the worst from slipped sleeves because BMW would not invest in updating the worn out engine block tooling for the old Buick aluminum V8. The older engines were better than the last trucks that used it. Ironically, most of the Rovers that are not worth buying are the trucks that utilized most of the BMW parts (specifically, the V8 engines). Like most all European cars, the most troublesome aspects of the larger Ford produced Rovers are based on technology that fails as the trucks age and wear. Navigation systems and computer controlled driver’s assist controls fail and are complex and expensive to fix, especially when the truck ages and values out. Also like most of the European makes, the newer models are built with leases in mind (to non traditional customers) and over rely on the brand name to move cheaper engineered and built units. Granted, a newer Evoque or Discovery with a Ford supplied engine will provided for cheap, easy to find engine parts; however, the question exists is does a newer, smaller LR/RRs give you any more “bang for the buck” than just buying a Ford Edge or Edge based Lincoln? They just don’t seem to have the ride or comfort that the larger and older Rovers offered ... but, to each his own. As far as service, I am really not sure that a 15 year old or newer Rover will be any less reliable or more/less difficult to repair than the same age BMW. Granted, replacement aftermarket parts for the older Rovers are not as cheap or easy to locate as older BMW ... which is the major factor that has (so far) kept me from owning one. Outside of that, I wouldn’t mind taking on a “big”, non BMW powered Rover! If someone discovers an economical engine swap for the BMW V8 Rovers, they would grow in popularity, too! I am not aware of any US market Rovers having a Jag engine other than the Ford based V8 that they both shared?
The problem is that the only reason why they would have never had been a very good 😌 for the past two years because of this happening to the cars that they have had been very very bad in the past few
I remember online auto loan applications in the late 2000’s not allowing Kia’s. I bought a 2010 Hyundai Genesis 4.6L, tech package with 30k miles for $19k in 2013. No problems getting a loan for it. I really enjoyed the car. Kept it to 110k but got rid of it for a 4runner. No issues/repairs at all during my ownership. But didn’t want to find out what the next 100k had in store.
I’ve owned a range rover and it was great during the warranty period. Around the five year mark it started having problems. I considered them usual wear and tear such as the AC compressor, valve lifter, suspension airbags and a few cosmetic things such as the dash leather peeling off. It was expensive to repair, but I figured it was the price of owning a Land Rover. I’ve owned Toyotas, which are super reliable. Why can’t they engineer land rovers to be reliable?
Oof I had the worst time dealing the Land Rover...my horror story began with buying A new 2016 supercharged range Rover sport...in 9 days the Dashboard lights went out,the gauges stopped working and my Cabin lights all went out..took it back they kept it in the shop for 13 days before I told them I wanted my money back and ended up with a lengthy argument and me getting my money and A new caddy Escalade instead.
LR3's /RRSports have some known issues, like bushings and air suspension components, but for the most part are pretty reliable and not that hard to work on. Just don't waste your money on Chinese electronic parts. Spend the money and do it right the first time!
I owned 2004 Diesel Engine Series 3 Range Rover for 7 years, no problems, since last 6 years owned series 4 Diesel here in New zealand, no problems to date just regularly serviced now done hundred and eighteen KM coming up to ten years old, only issue top tailgate does not close electrically have to pull down, due to the computer being corrupted by non franchise service computer. Superb vehicles to own and drive, great design . Here Jeep have poor reliability reputation, Dodge shocking reputation. Good maintenance is the key.
It's all about Prestige...Oh Look at me, I have a Range Rover. I'm super rich and do not care if it breaks all the time and it's worth half what I paid for it two years later.
@@atx-cvpi_99 Yes they did - This engine started as the Buick 215 from 1960. Was retired by GM as it did not fit with their ethos and cost too much to build. Rover bought the entire technical package at that time.
@@timboyle3114 About the same time GM sold the tooling for the 225 v6 to Jeep, then in 1975 GM bought the tooling back from Jeep and produced the 231 Buick v6, which years later became the 3800 v6 after a major design. There was also an Olds version of the 215, which was similar but had different cylinder head with a different bolt pattern.
I have owned one aince 2010 and have 160,000 miles on it with no major issues. I have people at the dealership asking me if I would sell it to them. I have owned my second one now for two years with no major issues. Don’t really know what you’re talking about.
I find it interesting that most of Landrover negativity comes from non owners of the brand. I've owned a few over 8 years, the latest being the L494 Range Rover Sport in diesel format. We've towed our caravan for thousands of miles in all weather. So far no major issues. A sensor fault on a Disco 4 cost £150 to fix. I believe the key is to purchase a well looked after model, service it regularly and listen to your local independent who often understands them better than the main dealers. If you don't want the service costs or just expect it to run neglected buy a Landcruiser. I know I've had x2 Colorado's and a 120. As for nobody wanting them, that certainly isn't true in England where prices for GOOD examples remain high. ALL cars are machines and all machines can break. I'd rather spend money repairing a car I love rather than spending to repair the beige box of fictional reliability that some cars promise!
They are not exclusively diesel in Europe. Not sure where you’re getting your information from. I was looking for Range Rovers and came across a video of some bloke speaking rubbish.
I think the evoke has the Volvo 3.2l SI(short inline)6. Good engines but they are crap shoots. About half of em drink oil due to the light tension rings used to achieve "low friction". I thought gelee (current owners of Volvo) picked rover up at some point? I've always appreciated the luxury and off road prowess they have but, it's british....electrical night mare!
You do know the 4.4tdi is a Ford US engine and the 5.0 Supercharged is a Ford Coyote engine commonly used in the Mustang. If the engine breaks it’s likely you US guys fault ;-)
Nathan, would this be accurate? I think that BMWs don't hold their value because they have the latest technology, and technology depreciates quickly, plus BMW'S are mass produced. The M cars that compete with the supercars have their issues do depreciate, but are cheaper to get parts cause they are mass produced. But since supercar's performance engines usually don't usually endure high, mileage as often, are they as reliable?
You should buy one to fix up for your channel. Tons of people would tune it to watch and see how that turns out. You may not make much or any money on the car, but i think you'd earn quite a bit on the videos. I'd watch 'em. I bought a '10 HSE which is the most luxurious car to drive (seating position is awesome), as well as have an e46 and e39 which is why i subscribe to your awesome channel.
@@renegademade6384 Yeah, I do. I'm not sure you're point. Nathan has a good following at 132k subscribers and makes good money. The challenge is keeping content interesting so he keeps current subscribers and grows the base. He has a good style and offers a lot of knowledge, just needs the next brand or model car that can gain him the same fanatical viewership as he has with BMW's.
So if the issues are the power plant… made by either Ford ow BMW … then rag on them … not the Land Rover… Never heard some of this BS … I have 2017 RR Sport loaded… and my repair costs have been less over all than any GMC product I ever owned…
The Discovery 2 was probably one of the worst Land Rovers ever made because of the front driveshaft breaking the transmission case. The worst Land Rover ever built was the Freelander 1 with the 1.8 or 2.5 engines. Those engines were known to blow head gaskets at a higher failure rate than a Honda CR-V. In America, a lot of Freelander 1 SUVs were lemon law buybacks. They were really bad and completely unreliable and they had a lot of problems under warranty. NEVER EVER BUY A USED LAND ROVER.
Being a universal Tech I find the most problematic models are 2002 to 2006 anything with a British Motor Wanker Engines are the ones to stay away from.
Yea I am a fan of the look and the interior of Range Rovers but the reliability of the Brand or Lack of...why can they never get it right.If it was OK you would not be reading negative comments all the time on You-tube all the time.I wish a person or company would get one new or old .Then go over it from top to bottom with the aim of making it reliable even long life.Like put the Range Rover body on a Toyota Land cruiser chassis ....bullit proof?Has anyone done this?
I’m pretty disappointed in Nathan and the comments. Compared to BMW’s terrible reliability, Land Rovers are definitely more reliable. Everyone on the comments loves to defend bmws and say that they just require “More maintenance”. This isn’t true. All BMWs suffer from door lock failures for years, CAN bus shorts, vanos failures, strut failures, oil pan leaks valve stem seals and the list goes on. Land Rover is no worse and probably better than any bmw.
I’ve worked on both and bmw is by far worse. Constant problems with the twin turbo v8s, every engine model that bmw make suffers from rod bearing issues and the list goes on and on. Land Rover problems are much easier to deal with, like leaky airbags. BMW on the other hand has inherit engine design flaws. The rod bearing failures across all models should be all the evidence I need.
All their vehicles are unreasonable. The science of reliability was developed in the UK aircraft industry . Reliability is taught as a subject in the UK but this knowledge has not been accepted by the car industry even with the UK being the home of the rolls Royce Trent 1000 engine. Another oddity from a European manufacturer. Quite right keep well away . Hopefully they may employ a few engineers like fiat and make a good car.
@footballcoreano thank you. BMW mass produces these cars to make them more affordable. Otherwise, they would be a supercar. I heard Lamborghinis aren't that great, but they have clout because they aren't mass produced. Factor in maintenance cost, bet it's way more expensive than a BMW
If you can afford bmw maintenance costs then they will be reliable,if not which I assume then they will be money pits,German cars are not simple machines like Japanese or Korean cars, you pay a premium for a bmw even if it’s an x1 suv
They wernt jaguar engines when they had the v8 in the discovery ot was the rover v8 or the buick v8 as ita otherwise known and they tended to slip sleeves on the larger capacity engines sold in the states
Once you own a range rover you no longer think like this. Your welcome to your opinion .. all power to you .. but you can also be wrong. Land rovers are the best car ever and I've owned them for over 40 years one or another. LR and RR - Its a toyota that is comfortable. (australia)
There is opinion (yours) and there is fact (dozens of reliability surveys of the years ranking their reliability at the bottom consistently). You may like them for some odd reason but that doesn't change the fact that they are unreliable POS.
Anytime I see a well maintained vintage Range Rover, I make sure to give the driver a thumbs up… because I’m cognizant of the small fortune it takes to keep them running. What would be groundbreaking, would be if Land Rover could make a Range Rover, where unbeatable reliability was their goal. Imagine how well they’d retain their value??? Instead, they’re punchlines of unreliability. (Remember “Cars 2”?)
'The only problem is see is reliability and nothing' ,"it's features are the best it's interior is also the best of other cars design is also too good "I just love it 🥰🥰🥰" "💯 a right choice reliability needs to be little worked 🧐🧐
In all fairness we drive Land rovers here in Ireland, Great for towing and work, Lovely 4x4, If they are not maintained properly though they will cause trouble, The Range Rover is a great 4x4 and the newer diesels are def the engines to go for, 3.0 tdv6, 3.6 and 4.4 tdv8's
He must be a Jeep guy.🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jeep and Ford brakes down more then Land Rover from what i've seen. I have had two Land Rovers in my life and never had any issues with them. I've seen Fords leaking oil that makes the older Land Rovers look good. Land Rover aspecially Range Rover is bullet proof, just make sure that it's got a full service history and don't skimp on the servicing. It's alot of car for little money.
Best car to drive and in my experience no worse than any other luxery SUVs..lots of other videos on here back my claim but I guess you can't please everyone
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range rover garage owners are millionaires. let that sink in
The one huge advantage of doing Ford, Chevy, Dodge is that there's an endless supply of repair vids to pump out.
You keep saying that you taxi fanboy
and there is a reason there are endless supply of parts from those manufacturers, because they are cheap built shit
Ford n dodge are endless pits
And parts.
You can say the same thing with just about every BMW that you buy, Nathan.
BUY
MORE
WARRANTY
Even though bmw isnt known for their reliability, range rover is far worse imo. (Modern bmws anyway, the old ones were pretty good in their day)
F Bmw
Old school BMW is reliable as hell. What are you talking about? Lol.
No you can’t
Always wanted one. But, like you, they scare the hell out of me thinking about the repairs. Good video Nathan.
Just buy one. Find an L322 06 or newer that had the timing chains done. These youtube guys rarely own them, and spew crap.
@@johnzimmerman7798 Ironically used market prices show all that crap about them.
Does your face itches ? From all that clown make up you ware defending olympic crap cars.
/me
Why is he so close to the camera???
He’s going to zoom out & have a Rover sitting there...
Im a Chevy guy.. from the trucks to sportscars.. had the yukons escalades.. but when it comes to the suv. The RR is the best. And all i run now.
Did a thermostat on a friends, $95 dollars for the part and that was years back. They are sharp and run strong though. The HSE 5.0 was my favorite on the lot. The owners wife took a Land Rover on the customer test track and toppled it over sideways. Some days are awesome even at work. She wasn't harmed FYI.
Range Rovers never met a hoist they didn't like.
Never touched them. I did have a 1972 scout 2 for 12 years . Was a tank . Never any problems, except rust around the windshield. Common problem
The Car Wizard seems very happy with his wife's Evoke.
The Land Rover Defender in Europe had Ford Transit diesel engines and those are pretty reliable, plus if you need to change them they are plentiful.
It’s actually a Discovery Sport.
My mother has an Evoque, it's esthetically pleasing for sure, but mechanically it's junk.
The car wizards Wife has a mechanic as a husband. Do you ?
I'm still watching the ads, hard NO. Worked as a lot porter and detailed at Bennett jaguar/Range Rover in college. Become a Range Rover tech you'll have great job security. Ok now I'm gonna watch ha.
I personally have a ranger rover for about 3 years already. Though it might have some few minor breakdowns such as lighting/electrical seats. However, I think that the interior and exterior is unbelievably comfortable. I honestly think that it’s just a personal preference about these cars. In conclusion I think that it’s a good investment to make. :)
Lol, it's a good "sink" to invest in.
A good investment, I like you. Since your into investments, i have a bridge I want to sell. It's in New York. I have the paperwork ready for you to review and sign. It's solid construction and has a good history. Lmao. Doug Demuro, Scotty Kilmer, Chris Fix, Eric the car Guy, all know that Land and Range Rovers are as reliable as a used rusted can opener, when all your food is in cans. Your screwed. Go to TRLs page they brought a brand new Land Rover and the first week it was in the dealership because the check engine light came.on andn2 sensor need to be replaced. How the hell did it come off the line and it was sold and already ends up in the shop and ot wasn't a recall.
Reading some of these comments, anyone would think that all JLRs broke down all the time. They don’t. I’ve had four and they have been completely reliable, only been in the shop for service and the extended warranty I paid for proved to be a complete waste of money. They have a poor reputation of course and they are not without their problems as a brand but then I had a Q8 for 18 months which spent nine weeks in the shop until I lost patience with it and went back to a Range Rover.
@@MrPeterthepilot Sounds like you got the best apples from the bad tree, I've never seen anyone drive a land Rover past 30-60k without hefty issues, hell most land Rovers i see around my area never move out of parking
99%of all landrover s are still on the road 1% made it home lol
Sold my 2006 range rover years ago. While drive the other day on my Toyota, i came across my sold Rover, it was on a towing truck with the new owner looking all frustrated 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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😆 🤣 junk toyota will always beat rovers in reliability toyota will forever run around rovers
Sure ya did 😏
@@user-fn1rb9ze6p buy a range rover and find out yourself.
@@user-fn1rb9ze6p I know right. No doubt this guy is lying
Well in my experience, I’ve owned my 2003 Range Rover HSE (M62TU) best car hands down. Original 230,000 miles with timing chain guides replaced at maintenance.
Ya, to a certain point maintenance makes a big difference. No question.
We use to stop light em from the lot getting gas. The HSE 5.0 Range Rover was the undisputed champion over all makes and model SUV. Cool ride!
My 05 hse has the same setup. Did the vanos rebuild and timing chain guides. Owned it for 5 years its been very reliable for an old car currently 168,000 on it. I will never sale it its not worth anything but its been a good suz for me
@Super Mom Toy collector would you advise then for someone looking into purchasing one what to look out for? I know my way around a wrench and do all maintance for myself (Eclipse 2003 GTS)
Old rovers last the new current ones are junk
Hey you're right buddy. Doug demuro bought his land rover through carmax. I think with a 100000 mile warranty and he's taken it back 12 times for the same issue!check out that video.
Junk i even seen a guy with one had to replace his transmission twice and engine rebuilt and damn supercharger going out he had to pay up nearly 6 -7,000 im like just buy a new car fuck that
There’s an old adage about Land Rovers….they can bring you to the desert but the won’t bring you back…lol
High quality filming... nice focusing, super mate *
The main problem with the LR 4 is the Low quality Timing Chain Tensioners and Guides. They can be upgraded and then they are reliable. I don't recommend people to buy a Range Rover/ Land Rover unless they are a professional mechanic. The Dealer wants $ 10,000 to replace the Timing Chains, Guides, Tensioners, Camshaft Sprockets, etc. There are expensive special tools required to work on Land Rovers. I purchase high- end cars & trucks as a hobby.
I perform all repairs and maintenance in house.
Wish Lexus can buy them lmaoo
Why would a quality made brand buy a junk brand? You know how many crappy crap Toyota would have to make for Land Rover?
@@PrituBhai because they would teach them how to make cars that last duh
@@KrossKountry595 yeah JUST TEACH. Buying is way too far
@@PrituBhai yes right hrother3
RR has sophisticated technologies and motorized things make those things easily breaks
I'm an Englishman who has been driving Land Rovers products for over twenty years and can honestly say there is no place more comfortable to be....
....whilst waiting for a tow truck!
Land Rover jaguar makes best looking cars all the models are beautiful except discovery 5 ( front looks stunning except side and back ) , in Mexico they discontinue jaguar sedan , fortunately I got a 2013 25000km XFR , I won’t sell it never . My wife wants a Range Rover sport , we went to dealer , it costs 150 grand USD . The price is crazy right now
No, man! Listen to yourself... if no one's buying them, well, then how is the company surviving... and thriving, consistently pumping out newer, fresher models year after year? Clearly, its got huge market that willingly hands over huge margins in places you know nothing about. We happily use an Evoke, 2013, and now in market for the big daddy, 2019-2021 model. Super happy with these machines.
I’ve had nothing but issues with my Rover
I literally tried to give it away and no one wants it 😂
99%of all landrover s are still on the road 1% made it home lol
Excellent review. With tumultuous and various dichotomous amalgamation of vehicles from external brands, Range Rover still manage to exist as a brand.
Can anybody tell me whats this video was about?
Yes the engines ain’t cheap… but what would you expect from a Dual super charged V6 or V8 pushing 400-500 BHP?
I really don’t know what the market is like in your area, but where I am, a nicely cared for older LR/RR, without a BMW engine, is always in demand ... especially the Ford derived V8 models (such as the Sport HSE) and the 90s/early 2000s Discos and Disco II. The P38 Range Rovers a little less so unless they are very clean and lower miles. The older Rovers, 2002-2004, seemed to suffer the worst from slipped sleeves because BMW would not invest in updating the worn out engine block tooling for the old Buick aluminum V8. The older engines were better than the last trucks that used it. Ironically, most of the Rovers that are not worth buying are the trucks that utilized most of the BMW parts (specifically, the V8 engines). Like most all European cars, the most troublesome aspects of the larger Ford produced Rovers are based on technology that fails as the trucks age and wear. Navigation systems and computer controlled driver’s assist controls fail and are complex and expensive to fix, especially when the truck ages and values out. Also like most of the European makes, the newer models are built with leases in mind (to non traditional customers) and over rely on the brand name to move cheaper engineered and built units. Granted, a newer Evoque or Discovery with a Ford supplied engine will provided for cheap, easy to find engine parts; however, the question exists is does a newer, smaller LR/RRs give you any more “bang for the buck” than just buying a Ford Edge or Edge based Lincoln? They just don’t seem to have the ride or comfort that the larger and older Rovers offered ... but, to each his own. As far as service, I am really not sure that a 15 year old or newer Rover will be any less reliable or more/less difficult to repair than the same age BMW. Granted, replacement aftermarket parts for the older Rovers are not as cheap or easy to locate as older BMW ... which is the major factor that has (so far) kept me from owning one. Outside of that, I wouldn’t mind taking on a “big”, non BMW powered Rover! If someone discovers an economical engine swap for the BMW V8 Rovers, they would grow in popularity, too!
I am not aware of any US market Rovers having a Jag engine other than the Ford based V8 that they both shared?
The problem is that the only reason why they would have never had been a very good 😌 for the past two years because of this happening to the cars that they have had been very very bad in the past few
99%of all landrover s are still on the road 1% made it home lol
I remember online auto loan applications in the late 2000’s not allowing Kia’s.
I bought a 2010 Hyundai Genesis 4.6L, tech package with 30k miles for $19k in 2013.
No problems getting a loan for it.
I really enjoyed the car.
Kept it to 110k but got rid of it for a 4runner.
No issues/repairs at all during my ownership.
But didn’t want to find out what the next 100k had in store.
There is a trick to the RR 5.0 engines! You must run oil with zinc or zinc additive.
you can buy ZDDP additives to boost current API SN or SP oils.
or find an API SL oil with more zinc
where do you this idea/info?
Iv owned rr for 30+ years, you learn!
I’ve owned a range rover and it was great during the warranty period. Around the five year mark it started having problems. I considered them usual wear and tear such as the AC compressor, valve lifter, suspension airbags and a few cosmetic things such as the dash leather peeling off. It was expensive to repair, but I figured it was the price of owning a Land Rover. I’ve owned Toyotas, which are super reliable. Why can’t they engineer land rovers to be reliable?
Oof I had the worst time dealing the Land Rover...my horror story began with buying A new 2016 supercharged range Rover sport...in 9 days the Dashboard lights went out,the gauges stopped working and my Cabin lights all went out..took it back they kept it in the shop for 13 days before I told them I wanted my money back and ended up with a lengthy argument and me getting my money and A new caddy Escalade instead.
LR3's /RRSports have some known issues, like bushings and air suspension components, but for the most part are pretty reliable and not that hard to work on. Just don't waste your money on Chinese electronic parts. Spend the money and do it right the first time!
Endless money 💰 pits.
I owned 2004 Diesel Engine Series 3 Range Rover for 7 years, no problems, since last 6 years owned series 4 Diesel here in New zealand, no problems to date just regularly serviced now done hundred and eighteen KM coming up to ten years old, only issue top tailgate does not close electrically have to pull down, due to the computer being corrupted by non franchise service computer. Superb vehicles to own and drive, great design . Here Jeep have poor reliability reputation, Dodge shocking reputation. Good maintenance is the key.
check bodywork before buy.Some panels can be painted twice.
It's all about Prestige...Oh Look at me, I have a Range Rover. I'm super rich and do not care if it breaks all the time and it's worth half what I paid for it two years later.
I thought I had one 1987 with a Buick engine. Is that possible ?
Yes - the rover v8 was originally a buick from the early 60’s. Lasted in the range rover till 2002 and disco till 04
GM never used that engine. The GM Buick V8 engines are cast iron.
@@atx-cvpi_99 Yes they did - This engine started as the Buick 215 from 1960. Was retired by GM as it did not fit with their ethos and cost too much to build. Rover bought the entire technical package at that time.
@@timboyle3114 About the same time GM sold the tooling for the 225 v6 to Jeep, then in 1975 GM bought the tooling back from Jeep and produced the 231 Buick v6, which years later became the 3800 v6 after a major design. There was also an Olds version of the 215, which was similar but had different cylinder head with a different bolt pattern.
I have owned one aince 2010 and have 160,000 miles on it with no major issues. I have people at the dealership asking me if I would sell it to them. I have owned my second one now for two years with no major issues. Don’t really know what you’re talking about.
I find it interesting that most of Landrover negativity comes from non owners of the brand. I've owned a few over 8 years, the latest being the L494 Range Rover Sport in diesel format. We've towed our caravan for thousands of miles in all weather. So far no major issues. A sensor fault on a Disco 4 cost £150 to fix. I believe the key is to purchase a well looked after model, service it regularly and listen to your local independent who often understands them better than the main dealers. If you don't want the service costs or just expect it to run neglected buy a Landcruiser. I know I've had x2 Colorado's and a 120. As for nobody wanting them, that certainly isn't true in England where prices for GOOD examples remain high. ALL cars are machines and all machines can break. I'd rather spend money repairing a car I love rather than spending to repair the beige box of fictional reliability that some cars promise!
Land Rover promised reliability but they are never reliable.
well said agree
This tittle: ''Why The Range Rover Is The *SUV No One Really Wants*'' is the worst TH-cam tittle I've ever seen. wtf are you talking about?
They are not exclusively diesel in Europe. Not sure where you’re getting your information from. I was looking for Range Rovers and came across a video of some bloke speaking rubbish.
Man I love you been that honest as always
I think the evoke has the Volvo 3.2l SI(short inline)6. Good engines but they are crap shoots. About half of em drink oil due to the light tension rings used to achieve "low friction". I thought gelee (current owners of Volvo) picked rover up at some point? I've always appreciated the luxury and off road prowess they have but, it's british....electrical night mare!
The car no one wants?? Umm, excuse me sir! This is still one of the most highly valued SUV’s on the market!
correction: Highly valued by status seeking stupid people.
Highly valued… I meant highly overrated
Land Rover, the best vehicle in the world to wait for the tow truck in.
You do know the 4.4tdi is a Ford US engine and the 5.0 Supercharged is a Ford Coyote engine commonly used in the Mustang. If the engine breaks it’s likely you US guys fault ;-)
They used the BMW engine from 2003 to 2005 invthe Range Rover HSE.
Nathan, would this be accurate?
I think that BMWs don't hold their value because they have the latest technology, and technology depreciates quickly, plus BMW'S are mass produced.
The M cars that compete with the supercars have their issues do depreciate, but are cheaper to get parts cause they are mass produced. But since supercar's performance engines usually don't usually endure high, mileage as often, are they as reliable?
Not sure what this guys point is.......He says he doesn't know quite a bit......???
Once bitten twice shy
You should buy one to fix up for your channel. Tons of people would tune it to watch and see how that turns out. You may not make much or any money on the car, but i think you'd earn quite a bit on the videos. I'd watch 'em. I bought a '10 HSE which is the most luxurious car to drive (seating position is awesome), as well as have an e46 and e39 which is why i subscribe to your awesome channel.
Do you even understand how much TH-cam pays
@@renegademade6384 Yeah, I do. I'm not sure you're point. Nathan has a good following at 132k subscribers and makes good money. The challenge is keeping content interesting so he keeps current subscribers and grows the base. He has a good style and offers a lot of knowledge, just needs the next brand or model car that can gain him the same fanatical viewership as he has with BMW's.
Had a land Rover model 88 , better than jeep to drive through woods. plow down trees luv ed it. not a range rover
If you’re not into Land Rover why make this video?
So if the issues are the power plant… made by either Ford ow BMW … then rag on them … not the Land Rover… Never heard some of this BS … I have 2017 RR Sport loaded… and my repair costs have been less over all than any GMC product I ever owned…
Don’t buy, lease!! Turn back in before the real problems start! Or wait until RR goes EV, then all the crazy mechanical issues go away!!
The problems start as soon as it’s driven 😂 and when they have EV’s, they still won’t be reliable.
Hey Nate when are you gonna start fixing stuff 😂 lately all we get is lip 👍🏻
Yugoslavia 💪
Terrible cars. The evoque is total trash. It cost alot to repair and each 4 months apprx something new goes wrong
The ones with the BMW diesels had a GM 5 speed automatic transmission which was notorious for failing.
The Land Rover Discovery 2 is great when maintained, they don’t use a Jaguar engine though. It’s the Rover v8 derived from Buick.
The Discovery 2 was probably one of the worst Land Rovers ever made because of the front driveshaft breaking the transmission case. The worst Land Rover ever built was the Freelander 1 with the 1.8 or 2.5 engines. Those engines were known to blow head gaskets at a higher failure rate than a Honda CR-V. In America, a lot of Freelander 1 SUVs were lemon law buybacks. They were really bad and completely unreliable and they had a lot of problems under warranty. NEVER EVER BUY A USED LAND ROVER.
The ultimate money pit.
When you buy a land rover it tata's self to mechanic
Haven’t bought one yet but has so much to say. RR are the car that everyone loves but can’t always afford. Buy a Honda
Being a universal Tech I find the most problematic models are 2002 to 2006 anything with a British Motor Wanker Engines are the ones to stay away from.
What are your thoughts on M57 diesel?
I got one since 2010. No problems whatsoever. Low consumption. Do not exceed oil changes over 10K miles.
Range rovers are unfortunately very unreliable 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Terrible quality and service TATA RANGE ROVER! THe last in the reliability rankings. DO NOT BUY IT OR YOU WILL VISIT THE CAR WORKSHOP MANY TIMES
Yea I am a fan of the look and the interior of Range Rovers but the reliability of the Brand or Lack of...why can they never get it right.If it was OK you would not be reading negative comments all the time on You-tube all the time.I wish a person or company would get one new or old .Then go over it from top to bottom with the aim of making it reliable even long life.Like put the Range Rover body on a Toyota Land cruiser chassis ....bullit proof?Has anyone done this?
What's the old joke? Buy 2 so when 1 breaks you have 1 to drive.
I’m pretty disappointed in Nathan and the comments. Compared to BMW’s terrible reliability, Land Rovers are definitely more reliable. Everyone on the comments loves to defend bmws and say that they just require “More maintenance”. This isn’t true. All BMWs suffer from door lock failures for years, CAN bus shorts, vanos failures, strut failures, oil pan leaks valve stem seals and the list goes on. Land Rover is no worse and probably better than any bmw.
probably
uhhh no i used to work at a landrover dealership biggest pieces of junk on the road.
I’ve worked on both and bmw is by far worse. Constant problems with the twin turbo v8s, every engine model that bmw make suffers from rod bearing issues and the list goes on and on. Land Rover problems are much easier to deal with, like leaky airbags. BMW on the other hand has inherit engine design flaws. The rod bearing failures across all models should be all the evidence I need.
Land Rover Range Rover they seem to make fine lawn ornaments here in Vermont. 😁👍
There’s a guy in Vermont that actually got a free Jaguar. That’s how bad Jaguars and Land Rovers are.
Any LS-Swapped Range Rovers?
True...
All their vehicles are unreasonable. The science of reliability was developed in the UK aircraft industry . Reliability is taught as a subject in the UK but this knowledge has not been accepted by the car industry even with the UK being the home of the rolls Royce Trent 1000 engine. Another oddity from a European manufacturer. Quite right keep well away . Hopefully they may employ a few engineers like fiat and make a good car.
Junk fiat
Japanese cars are the most reliable. Yes, would be good if they worked with the Japanese manufacturers so they could make a reliable car
After the first 10 seconds of this person not being able to formulate a thought I turned it off
Hahaha same. Anyone can start a YT channel I guess lol
I had an eagle talon , never again
Haha! The interiors are great. The rest of the vehicle is a basket case.
Land Rover makes BMW's look reliable
Lol, you're funny
@footballcoreano thank you. BMW mass produces these cars to make them more affordable. Otherwise, they would be a supercar.
I heard Lamborghinis aren't that great, but they have clout because they aren't mass produced. Factor in maintenance cost, bet it's way more expensive than a BMW
@footballcoreano yes if you maintain your car properly by doing all properly maintainance it will last longer than expected
@@tesla_models Funny coming from someone with username Tesla Model S. Another status driven overhyped POS.
If you can afford bmw maintenance costs then they will be reliable,if not which I assume then they will be money pits,German cars are not simple machines like Japanese or Korean cars, you pay a premium for a bmw even if it’s an x1 suv
I Feel like it's all about affordability coz even today they are still being bought even though u saying Soo😜
They wernt jaguar engines when they had the v8 in the discovery ot was the rover v8 or the buick v8 as ita otherwise known and they tended to slip sleeves on the larger capacity engines sold in the states
2006 and on no more BMW Engine..its a Ford Engine
Range rover Never again...im happy so very happy with my Mercedes GLS
Don't cry about it bro ..Either u gonna buy it or not..
Solution buy a range Rover throw the powertrain to the garbage and put a Toyota powertrain in it
Or put an LS.
well my.co worker has a lot of oroblems
with his range rover
Once you own a range rover you no longer think like this. Your welcome to your opinion .. all power to you .. but you can also be wrong. Land rovers are the best car ever and I've owned them for over 40 years one or another. LR and RR - Its a toyota that is comfortable. (australia)
You are the exception not the rule. But yet here in oz i see loads of people driving this car. I dont own it but it is intriguing
There is opinion (yours) and there is fact (dozens of reliability surveys of the years ranking their reliability at the bottom consistently). You may like them for some odd reason but that doesn't change the fact that they are unreliable POS.
Cap
Bmw fan haa
Cars that you don’t buy : German cars , British cars . Cars you buy : Toyota , Toyota , Toyota , Subaru
Honda and Mazda are legit also
All the cars that you mention other than the LR/RR brands are actually reliable and well made.
What do You mean everybody wants it
I liked this. You didn’t bash anyone or LR. I LOVE the styling but I’ll keep with BMW. enough there to keep me busy.
Anytime I see a well maintained vintage Range Rover, I make sure to give the driver a thumbs up… because I’m cognizant of the small fortune it takes to keep them running.
What would be groundbreaking, would be if Land Rover could make a Range Rover, where unbeatable reliability was their goal.
Imagine how well they’d retain their value???
Instead, they’re punchlines of unreliability. (Remember “Cars 2”?)
'The only problem is see is reliability and nothing' ,"it's features are the best it's interior is also the best of other cars design is also too good "I just love it 🥰🥰🥰" "💯 a right choice reliability needs to be little worked 🧐🧐
this car always garage kept because never leave the garage these cars lease only after 5 years turn into scrap metal
Well...put a Coyote in it and call it a day!
No one really wants 😂😂😂😂
Bro compare the price and sales range rover are selling the most in their price range
Mazda outsells range rover by a mile shot
Rovers are not even top 10 on the list
Range rover is an overrated Chrysler that people buy because they’re after the hype
In all fairness we drive Land rovers here in Ireland, Great for towing and work, Lovely 4x4, If they are not maintained properly though they will cause trouble, The Range Rover is a great 4x4 and the newer diesels are def the engines to go for, 3.0 tdv6, 3.6 and 4.4 tdv8's
The modern one?
Junk
I think 2006 -2008 were considered the best years if fitted with a Jaguar engine. Anyone have knowledge of these years?
I have a 2006 RRS with 195,000 and look forward to my next RRS .. Best Vehicle I have owned.
@@fxmoon123 the current are junk
Bmw engines were only from 03 to 05 and that’s when they were the worse. 4.2 is basically bulletproof when it comes to buying a 90k msrp vehicle
He must be a Jeep guy.🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jeep and Ford brakes down more then Land Rover from what i've seen. I have had two Land Rovers in my life and never had any issues with them. I've seen Fords leaking oil that makes the older Land Rovers look good. Land Rover aspecially Range Rover is bullet proof, just make sure that it's got a full service history and don't skimp on the servicing. It's alot of car for little money.
Cap.
Best car to drive and in my experience no worse than any other luxery SUVs..lots of other videos on here back my claim but I guess you can't please everyone
Ok but they really aren’t
2003-2007 Range Rover is a craigslist find $3-4k all day. Equivalent year Land Cruiser with double the miles is $13-25k if you search 10x harder.
Yeah people like the LC
And you can get a 2002-06 Cadillac Escalade for just a little more money and they are more reliable.
Tatra not ta-ta. Ta ta's are special on a whole other level : )
wut?
btw it is owned by TATA
It’s actually Tata motors not tatra. Tatra is a Czech vehicle manufacturer from Kopřivnice
@@manaspandey7086 oops Tata
@@manaspandey7086 yes I stand corrected