Ok. Now I'm positive. The Tomorrowland ND is different from the "regular" ND that was shown in the previous videos. The original ND did in fact have the larger driver and the TL had the slightly smaller one. Its all about excursion. The speaker that travels more up and down will have more thumpy bass. Being that the tomorrowland ND in this video is more narrow and deeper than the TL, which was just the opposite in the previous videos, there will be more bass and clarity. See the material that the driver cone is made from makes a huge difference also. For the longest time speakers have been made of "paper". More like pulp and other stuff. Paper will carry the mids and highs, up to about 8 khz, very well. Whereas the driver cones made from "plastic", polypropylene, will sound better on the lower sounds. It almost had a "canny" sound if not done meticulously. Plastic is also much cheaper. China-plastic cones, vietnam- paper cones. As i stated in a previous comment most of the charge 5s if not all are made in vietnam. That would be why the "newer" NDs such ad the tomorrowland here has the more narrow and deeper PAPER driver. But my question is, how did the TL in this video end up with the same driver as the ND in the previous videos? Is this TL made in china? Just look under the rubber plug on the body of the speaker. Where the ports are. You may need to take a picture and then zoom in to see it. Not on the rubber plug itself but right under the usb port.
ND sounded best for my reason for buying. Bought a Charge 5 Tomorrowland, it’s ND, it’s for my sis for Xmas and she likes dance and drum and bass etc. She’s not going to fiddle with EQs so the Charge 5 seemed a good option for straight out of the box and play. Got it for £120 while the Flip 6 at the same place is £130 and even all the other Charges from the same store were £170-160. I was a bit concerned why cheaper? it’s a black Charge 5 like the other black Charge 5 that’s on there for £160. But everything seems to be the same, looks better with the gold too, and it’s a ND which suits. All good.
I played it safe and got one ND, one TT and one NT. Listened to them all individually. I ended up with 2 NT models. The sound is AMAZING. I can put the 2 anywhere i want in order to make them sound balanced. I'll tell you right now that I could swear that there is center speaker! I invited a friend over and he said the same thing. Where is the other speaker in the middle? It has to do with the Digital Signal Processing. These speakers use a BS bluetooth codec, code-decode, and it still sounds clean and balanced with plenty of bass. Also the latency is not THAT bad. Thats when the people speak on the screen and the words come out later from the speakers. Its noticable if you look for it but again, not bad. As far as the ND being better, the ND version WAS made in China. Now pretty much all versions are from vietnam. Just look at the writing on the soeaker when you open the waterproofing rubber cap where the usb and charging port is. NOT on the rubber plug. Next to the ports. You may want to take a picture then zoom in. It doesn't say where the speaker is made on the box. Jbl headquarters is in the USA but thats not where the charge 5s are made.
My second ND: grey for the first one and now the black model. In France's Super U shop there is a amazing price: 119 EUR Very good sound with my music, equalizer settings: bass 2 mid 0 treble 0 Really impressive ND model, but i don't listen the others...
Salut Laurent.. Dis moi.. Avant d'acheter tu as regarder le numéro série pour savoir.? Et la version ND est disponible dans toutes les couleurs ou dans quelques unes spécifique.? Merci d'avance pour ta réponse..
I just receive my charge 5 ND model and i love it, its build like a tank and great sound. I didn't try the TL model yet, hope maybe i will get 1 more charge 5 TL for partyboost with squad color it so georgeus and like intimidating 😂. Like your comparison bro 👍 keep the good work.
Tengo la NT y también mejoró el sonido de los bajos. Incluso siento que ya no se pierden tanto cuando le subes hasta un 70%. La TL y ND también debieron mejorar la reproducción de frecuencias graves
@@miguelramirez2711 entonces estas diciendo que la NT es mejor q la ND y TL? por otro lado vi un video comparativo entre la versión tomorrowland vs la comun la tomorrowland se las comía en cuanto a sonido en general...no se q versión será...
Is elke jbl charge 5 in kleur camo TL? Want ik wil graag een zwarte of een camo charge 5 halen en het liefste wil ik dan de ND der van want heb zelf ook die van Tomorrowland en wil dan eentje extra voor stereo maar dan wil ik wel gewoon nog een ND model, snappie? Maar Nice vid bro 😎 😃
In the other video I believe he said that the ND model had the wider speaker and the TL was more narrow and deeper. Now the TL is wider and the ND is more narrow?
No because i have a red TL and it doesn’t have any foam around the tweeter, the buttons on the top are out a bit instead of in and the cover folds open
The differences are slight! but it doesn't mean the ND model is perfect.. TL has more clarity and a deeper base than the ND and can also get a bit louder too... NDs have slightly better punchy bass and slightly better build quality!
@@cesargamerpro3189 El camuflajeado es TL bro(lado derecho) el mismo apunta cuando menciona de la versión TL, en las versiones TL siempre usan tornillos más grandes, he tenido charge 3 y 4 TL y charge 3 y flip 4 en versión gg y los tornillos son más pequeños, yo creó que le ponen esos tornillos más grandes a las TL por la potencia que tienen esas versiones.
Bro let me give u guys latest about the arguments,, the best to check the sound is to,, keep the both speakers in the edge of the wall bro My Tl is always my joy cause I have heard the heavy bass on tl model.. both I wish to find one with nd model let me confirm clear.. I love them both ❤️❤️
As the speakers located differently against the microphone, e.g. TLs twitter is closer, viewers can’t judge adequately the difference.
Good observation.
Ok. Now I'm positive. The Tomorrowland ND is different from the "regular" ND that was shown in the previous videos. The original ND did in fact have the larger driver and the TL had the slightly smaller one. Its all about excursion. The speaker that travels more up and down will have more thumpy bass. Being that the tomorrowland ND in this video is more narrow and deeper than the TL, which was just the opposite in the previous videos, there will be more bass and clarity. See the material that the driver cone is made from makes a huge difference also. For the longest time speakers have been made of "paper". More like pulp and other stuff. Paper will carry the mids and highs, up to about 8 khz, very well. Whereas the driver cones made from "plastic", polypropylene, will sound better on the lower sounds. It almost had a "canny" sound if not done meticulously. Plastic is also much cheaper. China-plastic cones, vietnam- paper cones. As i stated in a previous comment most of the charge 5s if not all are made in vietnam. That would be why the "newer" NDs such ad the tomorrowland here has the more narrow and deeper PAPER driver. But my question is, how did the TL in this video end up with the same driver as the ND in the previous videos? Is this TL made in china? Just look under the rubber plug on the body of the speaker. Where the ports are. You may need to take a picture and then zoom in to see it. Not on the rubber plug itself but right under the usb port.
Thanks! Very helpful review! ❤
I like my TL more than the ND, call really tell the bass is different from each other, but treble is definitely brighter with TL
That's right, I also have TL and it sounds clearer like an ND
@Dingo Ko
Is bass strong on TL or ND has better bass?
I have TL although i want a ND
@@zeljkozuber6629 ND has more bass
which has better sound quality?
ND sounded best for my reason for buying. Bought a Charge 5 Tomorrowland, it’s ND, it’s for my sis for Xmas and she likes dance and drum and bass etc. She’s not going to fiddle with EQs so the Charge 5 seemed a good option for straight out of the box and play. Got it for £120 while the Flip 6 at the same place is £130 and even all the other Charges from the same store were £170-160. I was a bit concerned why cheaper? it’s a black Charge 5 like the other black Charge 5 that’s on there for £160. But everything seems to be the same, looks better with the gold too, and it’s a ND which suits. All good.
I played it safe and got one ND, one TT and one NT. Listened to them all individually. I ended up with 2 NT models. The sound is AMAZING. I can put the 2 anywhere i want in order to make them sound balanced. I'll tell you right now that I could swear that there is center speaker! I invited a friend over and he said the same thing. Where is the other speaker in the middle? It has to do with the Digital Signal Processing. These speakers use a BS bluetooth codec, code-decode, and it still sounds clean and balanced with plenty of bass. Also the latency is not THAT bad. Thats when the people speak on the screen and the words come out later from the speakers. Its noticable if you look for it but again, not bad. As far as the ND being better, the ND version WAS made in China. Now pretty much all versions are from vietnam. Just look at the writing on the soeaker when you open the waterproofing rubber cap where the usb and charging port is. NOT on the rubber plug. Next to the ports. You may want to take a picture then zoom in. It doesn't say where the speaker is made on the box. Jbl headquarters is in the USA but thats not where the charge 5s are made.
TT vs NT?
My ND is made from China. TL is made in China. Looks like everything is made in China nowadays. 😢
It sounds like the ND also has a bit better highs. Sounds a bit more open if you ask me.
My second ND: grey for the first one and now the black model.
In France's Super U shop there is a amazing price: 119 EUR
Very good sound with my music, equalizer settings: bass 2 mid 0 treble 0
Really impressive ND model, but i don't listen the others...
which firmware you use now?
Salut Laurent.. Dis moi.. Avant d'acheter tu as regarder le numéro série pour savoir.? Et la version ND est disponible dans toutes les couleurs ou dans quelques unes spécifique.?
Merci d'avance pour ta réponse..
I just receive my charge 5 ND model and i love it, its build like a tank and great sound. I didn't try the TL model yet, hope maybe i will get 1 more charge 5 TL for partyboost with squad color it so georgeus and like intimidating 😂. Like your comparison bro 👍 keep the good work.
Now we have 4 different versions of the Charge 5 🥴
The new version is NT
Its nd but better like axel have nt pulse 4
3:32 ND
3:42 TL
wow they actually sound different,
I have the tl and the nd and i found that my red tl has more pyshicality in its bass than the nd, i also had tomorrowland as nd
Cuál tiene más bajos? Cuál tiene mejor calidad de audio? Gracias 🙏🏼
TL tiene mas claridad de sonido, ND tiene mas bajos pero un poco muffleado
Tengo la NT y también mejoró el sonido de los bajos. Incluso siento que ya no se pierden tanto cuando le subes hasta un 70%. La TL y ND también debieron mejorar la reproducción de frecuencias graves
@@miguelramirez2711 entonces estas diciendo que la NT es mejor q la ND y TL?
por otro lado vi un video comparativo entre la versión tomorrowland vs la comun la tomorrowland se las comía en cuanto a sonido en general...no se q versión será...
Do you think they will release another update??
I'm very happy after this update. ND user :)
What is better on ND after update?
Is elke jbl charge 5 in kleur camo TL? Want ik wil graag een zwarte of een camo charge 5 halen en het liefste wil ik dan de ND der van want heb zelf ook die van Tomorrowland en wil dan eentje extra voor stereo maar dan wil ik wel gewoon nog een ND model, snappie? Maar Nice vid bro 😎 😃
I have my ND and its superbb 🔥🔥🔥👌
In the other video I believe he said that the ND model had the wider speaker and the TL was more narrow and deeper. Now the TL is wider and the ND is more narrow?
Hello Techder, my brand new Charge 5 Speakers have a Serial Number start with TT, do you know that version ?
Hi, Is Tomorrowland edition model same as regular ND ?
Yesss!
I don't believe so
so, what colors has ND? I heard camo, green, white, red and blue are ND. And also i heard about NT... So, what colours are ND, i really need to know.
I believe that you may have them backwards. ND on right and a tomorrowland TL on the left
No because i have a red TL and it doesn’t have any foam around the tweeter, the buttons on the top are out a bit instead of in and the cover folds open
Which nd ir TL ? Right or Left ? Min 5:25
Are you sure that the charge 5 on the right is a TL and not an older ND?
The tomorrow Land version is the ND and the other is a TL.
Thanks for the information.
I have a TT model. Any difference?
I think it’s like a hybrid between nd and tl, but I’m probably wrong.
@@freehandz it’s just a TL built a little better
tt is like the nd
Is the better bass from the ND noticible or is it just a slight better, and would it be a hood upgrade from the TL or they are about the same?
The differences are slight! but it doesn't mean the ND model is perfect..
TL has more clarity and a deeper base than the ND and can also get a bit louder too...
NDs have slightly better punchy bass and slightly better build quality!
Is charge 5 has more power when plugged in? like charge 4?
What extreme and boomboxes do that not the charge series
Tomorrowland edition looks sick 🔥
Stfu jbl fan kid
Kid that doesnt have jbl speaker and watches jbl video to fullfill the drrams 😂
@@chrstx ?
@@user-v4827 is just a stupide guys
@@D1OR-BS wdym lol?? He is the stupid he said i dont have any jbl??
Which version is new pls tell
Porque mi JBL Charge 5 no se mueven así los bajos? Que tengo que hacer para que vean así jajaja ayudaaaa y es original 100%
Could be the mic but ND sounds better in everything
Wat is het verschil?
Did you notice a volumen decreased?
Idk its the mic
mine too but its more balanced
How is better nd, tl, or nt!?
For me Its fucking ND 🔥🔥🔥 more louder just use eqailizer to have a great crisp of quality sound...
@@warrenbuynasceddie3422 You kan give me a name of eq than you use ? ✌️
Wich it is best?
ND (Black model) or TL (camouflaged)
cual es mejor?
la ND (negra) o la TL( camuflada)
opiniones por favor
opinions please
Nd better bass ik that
Los dos suenan brutal
How long does the battery playtime?
20 hours
Hello from Ukraine
How do I know if my charge 5 is ND or either TL model? If that is stated on the first two letters of the serial number?
Yes, It has to do with the two first letters in the Serial Number
Just ordered a TML, are all TML the ND?
Tl model it is equal or worse in max volume???
Equal but little less loud
@@techderaudios more bass ?
Pregunta para mí sonaba mejor ND más armonía se sentía
TL - Better Bass and Mids
ND - Better Treble
Tl more bass ??
Tl is really good in heavy bass that might rip the radiator,, u can Google it and read the instructions clear,,
after the update which is better the tl or nd
nd always been better
Porfavor alguien me dice cuál es el modelo ND y TL 😃
ND es la de lado izquierdo , TL lado derecho, tiene los tornillos más grandes.
@@armando6347 cuando toca el de la izquierda dice Tomorrowland es el TL bro
@@cesargamerpro3189 El camuflajeado es TL bro(lado derecho) el mismo apunta cuando menciona de la versión TL, en las versiones TL siempre usan tornillos más grandes, he tenido charge 3 y 4 TL y charge 3 y flip 4 en versión gg y los tornillos son más pequeños, yo creó que le ponen esos tornillos más grandes a las TL por la potencia que tienen esas versiones.
Creo q según mi oído suenaejor ND
ND Azul, TL camuflado
Nice Video🔥
Para mi ambos son buenasos
Cool
How do I check if I have the TL or the ND?
Serial number underneed flap charging
On the box or under the tweeter it says ND TL Etc (you have to take off the cover)
@@techderaudios mine says tt. Whats this model?
TT looks like TL
Bro let me give u guys latest about the arguments,, the best to check the sound is to,, keep the both speakers in the edge of the wall bro My Tl is always my joy cause I have heard the heavy bass on tl model.. both I wish to find one with nd model let me confirm clear.. I love them both ❤️❤️
Voice almost disappear on TL after 4:36 ☹️
New update charge 5
First one much better
Tl
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hallo