Julian Barbour: The Janus Point & the Arrow of Time (180)
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Julian Barbour is the author of the highly regarded The Discovery of Dynamics and the bestseller The End of Time and now, The Janus Point.
He received his PhD in physics from the University of Cologne in 1968. He is a past visiting professor of physics at the University of Oxford and lives on the edge of the scenic Cotswolds, UK.
A major new work of physics, The Janus Point will transform our understanding of the nature of existence.
In a universe filled by chaos and disorder, Julian Barbour makes the radical argument that the growth of order drives the passage of time - and shapes the destiny of the universe.
Time is among the universe's greatest mysteries. Why, when most laws of physics allow for it to flow forward and backward, does it only go forward? Physicists have long appealed to the second law of thermodynamics, held to predict the increase of disorder in the universe, to explain this. In The Janus Point, physicist Julian Barbour argues that the second law has been misapplied and that the growth of order determines how we experience time. In his view, the big bang becomes the "Janus point," a moment of minimal order from which time could flow, and order increase, in two directions. The Janus Point has remarkable implications: while most physicists predict that the universe will become mired in disorder, Barbour sees the possibility that order - the stuff of life - can grow without bound.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:02:57 The story of the book cover.
00:04:33 What does time mean to you?
00:05:36 The influence of Ernst Mach.
00:09:11 About the "Royal" Zero.
00:28:30 Entaxy, thermodynamics and statistcal mechanics.
00:35:57 The cyclic universe.
00:41:28 The theoretical virtues of the Janus Point.
00:55:05 Is there a necessity for a theory of quantum gravity?
01:07:00 What is the failure of the "singularity" theory of cosmogenesis?
01:09:00 The essence of the Janus Point theory.
01:17:58 The Borde-Guth-Vilenkin Theorem
01:21:25 How do you reconcile the Janus Point Paradigm with current observations?
01:38:00 What would you put on a timeless monolith?
01:43:00 What is now possible that you once thought was not as a younger man?
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*Which is more likely -- the universe began according to the standard Big Bang model, or something more like the Janus Point scenario took place?* Don't forget to subscribe and leave a thumbs up!
As space and time are inseparable (as are mass and energy describing the grid at the subatomic level as per Penrose), the arrow of time must follow the increase or decrease of entropy (wether expressed in spacetime or energymass). As such the arrow of time must 'flip' at the furthest expansion of our cosmos, upon its decreasing again contracting back towards its point of origin (where the energymass setting will again dominate). As a consequence, in a shielded environment such as the wider sagittarius A singularity (named 'milkeyway') we would witness this cosmic contraction fase outside our own galaxy at an INVERSE arrow of time. This in turn means the OBSERVED redshift of furthest galaxies is actually an indication of a CONTRACTING universe as we speak, voiding the need for any 'dark energy'. pls let it be known that the Janus point and the myth of dark energy are mutually exclusive and let us revoke any issued Nobel Prizes concerning any 'dark matter' or 'dark energy'. We can do better. Also the inversion of the arrow of time is not limited to the largest scale singularities only, it would also apply to the 'smaller cycles' of smaller singularities, making it a complex issues. As a reminder; at the subatomic level we also see this inversion prinicple , e.g. at the 'quantum eraser' double slit tests. Again, if we know the atom, we know the galaxy, the solar system and the cosmos. Same principles. Just nested.
Perhaps an eternal steady state universe exists and our bang was once a huge star in that universe l like the idea as it unifies two theories
Nothing Dr Barbour said convinced me to throw out everything I have been taught, so for now I'd still have to bet on the Big Bang model as currently stated. It seems he is implying particles would have a mass (to form Kepler pairs) before the Higgs mechanism has imparted it to them or in the case of a collapse after conditions would be so energetic that the Higgs mechanism would no longer be possible.
@@RWin-fp5jn what idea of entropy is being invoked here?
Janus point might actually describe early big bang cosmology.
Assume SPIRAL cosmological redshift hypothesis and model, where hyper-dense proto galactic formation as early as mid day one and the universe attains mature size and density by the end of literal day 4.
so no increase in complexity post week one, just past events have not had a chance to show up here, as has been unfolding since the end of hyper cosmic expansion day 4.SCM-LCDM it may be in the actuality there is no material contradiction between Janus Point and big bang cosmology. See creation science and big bang cosmology in volume II of the Pearlman YeC series for the alignment of Torah testimony, science and ancient civ.
Happy 50th Brian.
I adore Julian Barbour! Wish he was my grandpa. :)
Thank you for the discourse. Mr. Barbour is absolutely brilliant in many ways. Excellent choice for the interview and certainly someone who I will be following.
I love this guy, and Sir Roger Penrose...two older blokes still bending minds after decades of work. PS happy Birthday 🎂
Thanks very much
Penrose’s conformal cyclic cosmology has the universe ending in a state where there are no clocks or yardsticks (no time or space), setting the stage for the next Big Bang.
Intuitively satisfying.
I’ll never ever tire of the arrow of time. Thanks.
This is priceless and very much appreciated. Thank you so much, both of you.
9:59 this visualization was really well chosen! After that it allowed me to think of the same on an infinite spring that converges to its center and expands again 🍥
I normally only listen to these brilliant interviews, and it was a very nice treat to find such an explanatory animation right at the time I went back to listen again.
Thank you and keep up the great work 😀👍
Thanks very much
The universe is infinite.
Life in it is eternal, it adapts, it always changes and goes through infinite cycles.
A balance of life, death and new beginning that spreads throughout of the Infinity of the eternity of the universe.
If there was even remote chance it was right it would be the only "religion" that would constitute any meaning to any existence...
I'm more than ok with my Consciousness ceasing to exist when I'll die naturally or by having my brain smashed, but the thought that wherever we or our descendants will do in Universe is in the end meaningless because Heat Death is inevitable was always unbearable for me! And Sir Roger Penrose CCC gives little solace, although better and more sensible than wild ideas about "Universes, creating Universes creating Universes"( psychological artefact stemming from our cave man-like obsession with fertility, anthropomorphism, and materialistic ideas about consciousness that lead to Simulation HYPEothesis culture, what Lee Smolin proposes is just another version of the same cognitive trap... Why should Universe unless conscious care about creating other Universes with constants better for life?! It solves nothing and you may just as well evoke Creator Simulator if you are willing to give any credence to Smolin.
Back to Barbour.
That's the truly "New Akeropoulos of Cosmology"!
Sadly I can't quite grasp myself to believe in it even for a minute... It all rests on a very peculiar interpretation of Quantum that goes against both Orthodoxy and Sir Roger Penrose and Relativist propositions for Gravity. Right?
And I also don't understand (you can explain it to me if you do) how can we experimentally distinguish Barbours QM from Everett... as it is basically a Everettian math applied to Time rather than measurement results.
As to his Christian faith... It really baffles me. Such a beautiful Universe if real would certainly indicate existence of some Buddhist like Cosmic Consciousness but definitely not Christianity. As religions of a book teach that this world will be erased and God will simulate on some super computer human souls after that.
I don't like it. Neither traditional Christianity nor it's Dennettian version. But honestly I think Anirban Bandyopadhyay and his team should talk to Julian how theoretically Stuart Hameroff Theory of Consciousness might work in Julians interpretation of QM?
It would be interesting.
But for now I'm sticking to Sir Roger Penrose ideas.
Wow man, Julian's two triangle 🔺️ monolith reminds me of King David's star ! This episode was phenomenal Dr. Keating , you did a great job in this interview ! Thank you .
Thank you, so much. I am so glad you liked it
Geometric unity in the morning with Eric and in the afternoon Julian tells us that geometry is fundamental.
Happy Birthday Sir!
I love your channel!!!!
Happy Birthday Dr.Brian Keating! congratulations on reaching 50!! also great podcast! Also, what a genius Julian Barbour is! loved hearing him speak.
I think you should interview Eric Lerner. Non mainstream scientists also deserve to be heard even though their point of view may seem outrageous
✨👌🏻great talk
Happy Birthday Professor Keating!!
Excellent job on the audio balance, & a great conversation!
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Like you, I have been doubtful about multiple universes, especially the idea that every decision we make, we create a new universe with copies of ourselves in it. This would create so many issues. However, recently there was news of a parallel universe probably existing that is a mirror-reversed version of ours with time going backwards. Perhaps it it is possible that at the Janus point, two universes were created - one backwards and one forwards. Time would be created in the same way in both universes from expansion and increasing complexity, so time would not go backwards in one of the universes, but whichever one that we are not in would be considered to have negative time. Thank you for your wonderful video with Dr Babour.
why would it be a strait line forward or backward -its maybe a 8 shaped möbious strip
Ticking away, the moments that make up a dull day....
I really enjoyed this one..Some of Barbour's ideas are so startling that one automatically wants to disagree.. Several conjectures seem blatantly unsupportable, some nearly supernatural, together making it difficult to accept the entire theory..BUT THEN AGAIN, many parts of the theory have the ring of potential truth and if the parts I don't understand have merit, well.. That's what I love about Julian, he expands the "Box" beyond our programmed biases..Thx for a great offering.
Thank you indeed Brian 👍 Julian Barbour, along with Roger Penrose, is one of the most fascinating and adorable scientist alive today.
Thanks
I think scientists always say that microphysics is time-reversible. IMO a more correct way to say it is that microphysics is velocity reversible with time still moving forward. For example, when we are asked to imagine a film of "two billiard balls colliding and flying away" being run forward and backward, we cannot tell if the scene is playing out in forward or backward flowing time. The example of idealized billiard balls is supposed to be similar to microphysics. But notice that in that imagined experiment the film runs backward but time is still running forward. This is the point Tim Maudlin makes. And this kind of ties into what Julien's theory of time is. Time is something that happens when the configuration of constituents parts of the universe changes from one state to the next. So as soon as there is a configuration change from one state to the next, time falls out of it. That is what time is. This fundamental time is without any rate yet. This time is another name for the phenomenon of change of configuration from the *current* state to *next* state. This by definition is the forward flowing time. In other words, when we say that the current configuration changes to the *next* configuration, this use of the word like *next* is what gives us the direction of time flow implicitly and automatically. In fact, that can be called the definition of the direction of the fundamental time. Also, note that even if the configuration goes from A to B and back to A on and on we can get time out of it. Also, note if the configuration does not change across the whole universe then the notion of time is rendered meaningless. Now, how do we get to the rate of the flow of time? Well, when we build comparative instruments from some parts of the universe, we call clocks, to compare the relative change of configuration of other parts of the universe. This choice of the clock is what gives us the rate of flow and the familiar day-to-day time we are used to. The clocks are usually subparts of the universe that cyclically go thru the same set of configurations. The hour hand goes back to the same place on the dial after 12 hours. The other subparts whose time clocks measure may or may not be cyclic.
This is a magnificent podcast. Happy to discover it, happy to subscribe, and happy entropy month!
Love to hear that! Welcome to
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What you mean with entropy month? 🤨
If we knew the actual mechanism that made the physics of our universe work, would it change the kind of questions that physicists ask?
I would re-phrase your question: '.. If the physicists would change their kind of questions, would we learn the actual mechanism that makes the universe work..' Answer: YES. The likes of Einstein may be excused since they were the early ones, but at some point we have to recognize that if decades of questions only leads to failure and further complications without answers, something in our shared 'dogma's' we take for granted must be flawed (even if mathematical approximations of GR and QP work). As with architecture of any kind of structure, the fundamentals of our physics can NEVER be more complicated than the theories derived form it, some of which we master 100%. It is an oxymoron to suggest otherwise, yet we keep on doing it for 100 years, celebrating each new complexity as a breakthrough to even further unknowns awarding increased complexities with prizes in stead of awarding actual simplifying solutions. The scientific community by and large is not looking for answers, only for continuation of complexity and related job opportunities. Some individuals are genuinely continuing on this path (suffering form human hubris that our curriculum cannot be wrong) some are in the know (simply making good use of the gullibility and ignorance of the public). Either way, I don't think we will reverse course, just blindly 'following the science' wherever its economics takes us.
awesome ideas and conversation. thank you
Please ask if spacetime is made of gravitons. Ask if gravitons are the carriers of the physics constants. Ask if wave functions are describing gravitons.
A theory shouldn't be beautiful as a requirement. It should be right. It should tell you how gravitational propulsion works.
At the very least, the set of questions here seem very promising. And, while I share Dr. Keating's general rejection of "beautiful" as necessarily associated with "useful", this set of postulates starts to scratch both itches rather satisfactorily.
This was great!
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Gorgeous.
And probably only possible for one who avoided academia and trained the mind on what the ancient Greeks got from the East.
Hence respect for philosophical truths unknown to Physics, and little regard for the dogmas.
Getting rid of entropy, noting that "creation" means growth/extension, not treating "time" as a dimension, accepting that the properties of things are dependent on the whole … Awesome!
Newton's "ice cube" space … great realisation that it is not homogenous but has increasingly complex structure. Ever so close to breaking out of the prison of chrono centric atomism.
What's in the way is the half-notion those ancient Greeks got from the East.
Atom understood as the indivisible is the bit they got right.
Atoms, plural, as indivisible bits of stuff, occupying and interacting in an emptiness, and calling that emptiness "vacuum" … dead wrong.
Fix that by realising that the undivided and indivisible "Atom" (just one) is all there is, and it is more correctly called "the universe" … and, yes, all dimensions are defined from within it, and there is no "outside" to it.
In my tradition, it is called Advaita. The undivided and indivisible in which all apparent phenomena arise in the Moment of Creation (and "creation" meaning, as noted, a growing, not a beginning.
"Creation" in my school is called Tantra: The spinning, weaving and extension of existence, apparent in the fine structure of the brain, cosmic filaments and all things which are self-similar at many scales.
Ever so close … gives me hope that we could soon see an end to the sometimes amusing but often unfruitful woo which has been coming forth from physics all my lifetime.
Also wanted to suggest a few podcast interviewees: James Woodward (inventor of the famous, or perhaps infamous, Mach reactionless propulsion drive) and Bei Lok Hu (Theoretical Cosmologist from U of MD).
"Bedrock of physics should be ratios". Good quote. Nassim Haramein has been saying the same thing for years. So think you guys have it.
Fascinating person Brian. Thanks!
Thanks buddy what’s your favorite takeaway?
@@DrBrianKeating I never thought about motion or geometry that way. Mind expanding!
I agree with you he’s amazing
“Philosophy without geometry is lost 📐” Julian Barbour
Great interview!
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When I try to visualize the expansion of the universe without the contents actually having to move, it helps if I can disregard the concept of distance. I still don't get how his model is supposed to work though. ;)
The neutron is the maximally connected double cover which is the Janus point. When neutrons are compressed by gravity so much that they touch they become the vacuum energy, a sheet of photons 90° to us, and then re emerge in lowest energy density points where the spatial energy is only lambda. No gravity. Deep voids. And this the quantum basement is low enough for the neutrons to reemerge.
Then the neutrons decay, into atomic hydrogen, as they do. Completing the cycle as that hydrogen will now begin to fall towards an event horizon again.
Event horizons act like energy pressure release valves venting from highest energy pressure conditions to lowest
Neutron Decay Cosmology is inevitable.
Path of least action. Geometry demands.
Agree shape is only thing that counts as it has built-in relativity. The sides are relative to one another, so you have information. I would think min of 3 points required to have relativity, so interesting you picked a triangle. Could be the reason 3 is a magic number.
Hey Prof Brian, I thought you were around 35-40 yrs - judging by your looks. Happy birthday! 🌟 Awesome convo and lateral thinking .😁 Thanks!
That means the Multiverse to me
Same ! Happy Unborn day! To wish the face of you before your parents well! Maybe romancing the timeless reduces shortening of telomeres? I wonder!
On the subject of entropy and time I discovered
1- entropy has no units its just a number (Boltzmann)
2- entropy requires every particle to have an identity
3- Because every particle has an identity (solves the Gibbs paradox) and every particle is in motion then every particle is in its own time.
4- for any system there is an infinite number of entropies.
But that does not apply to the universe, what grows in it is not and will not be entropy, but the complexity that makes it more varied and structured that grows without borders or limits through the multiverse since the energy to create light, heat and life they are infinite.
@@gimo6881 Define *complexity?*
How about you show the equation for getting WORK from HEAT..
@@mikebellamy you never read the Janus point?
There even a summary article on the BBC page.
@@gimo6881 The BBC are atheists so just as confused as you.. His belief that order spontaneously arises in the universe has a fatal flaw: *HE DOES NOT DEFINE ORDER?* Neither does he show how the second law does not work in his model.
So like all atheists makes unsubstantiated assumptions and even math models to justify the evasion of truth.
Time is actually a constant change created by the human beings to measure the changes happening in this Universe.
A very interesting discussion. I feel that the four laws of thermodynamics prove the Universe is eternal (energy cannot be created or destroyed), I also think it is infinite, possibly in an infinite multiverse, because of inflation, which seems to require a multiverse.
That's the only real truth.
Mr. Barbour and I should talk.
Time is a compact dimension one single Planck second in size. All points in space share this dimension. Thus using Kuramoto synchrony we can evolve a hyperplane of the present with matter on one side and antimatter on the other. An inflow here is an outflow from there. Clockwise here is counterclockwise there.
This is why chirality and symmetry.
The large scale topology of our manifold is I believe not so much physical in terms of distance but related to energy density.
It is a novel (who thought there was a shape that has been unexplored) minimal energy single sided closed surface. A form of Klein bottle but inderterminable exactly because there is a single point, time, where all world paths collide. The node.
Surface(cos(u/2)cos(v/2),cos(u/2)sin (v/2),sin(u)/2) 0>u>4π 0>v>2π
This is the manifold. Noticed that 4π, 2 rotations are needed to complete the surface. Electron half spin is an artifact of this topology.
One expressed orbit as electron and simultaneously an orbit on other side of temporal membrane as positron. Thus conservation of charge and spin at every point all the time.
I have some videos which go into greater depth but posting links might be rude. Anyone interested can look them up.
So... When am I on your show? 😉
There’s just something about julians energy- he seems so kind and whimsical- what a fun physicist!!!!! 👈🏼⏳👉🏼 I have said yesterday is gone tomorrow never comes so we always are “here- RIGHT NOW we’re HERE” (quoting the princess madison lane in reverse singing heaven isn’t to far away written by her dad- jani lane who sings in forward and reverse at the same time!!!!) type in “Nevaeh jani lane re-versed” a song reversal of the warrant/warrEnt band from the USA HEAVEN.
About this talk dont know what to think, my mind blow away, you are in much better position, to find pros and lacunas, in all great minds, we have apparatus, to see, to smell, to taste, to hear, maybe, develop a apparatus to fell the universe. ..all the best
Thanks Nuno
@@DrBrianKeating Hi, maybe you can work like an detective, difrent theory, are the suspects, you can eliminate one by one acording your knowlege, until you find the final theory, all the best.
The nebula of Orion m42 is in the shape of the mandelbrot set.
If you connect the stars Alnitek, Rigel and Saiph, it's an equal lateral triangle the nebula is the eye. Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy 42 is the key to the whole thing. Lol
If the universe is expanding and I as a member of the universe am expanding is time simply the perception of that expansion? Could it be that one's expansion is reconciled as the passing of time by one's mind?
The mind 'knows' that something is changing, expansion, but because the observable surroundings don't appear to be changing it must account for the change somehow...
haha loved how Dr Brian Keating trying _really_ hard to keep an open mind, this discussion was really bizarre. lol 😄
Agreed. What the hell is this guy talking about? This seems more like amateur philosophy than theoretical physics. He just throws out a bunch of self-coined buzzwords with no conclusions. 'We need to think more about angles and shapes than sizes.' Wtf, ok I guess? It's like listening to that one uncle at a reunion that has 'ideas' about how things 'really' work. He doesn't have a 'new approach to time', he just throws out a rephrasing of the same physics we already knew. I dunno, guys like this or Kastrup or Don Hoffman with their hot takes on metaphysics are really unhelpful in my opinion.
If our universe is conscious then I think that geometry and shape relationships make sense.
Let's assume a finite amount of energy was embedded into the universe as it came into being. Mysteriously, some of that energy took the form of matter. Meanwhile, some remained free (the CMBR after transparency). Further, some energy was 'squeezed out' of matter as stars condensed and became nucleosynthetic furnaces. That and other energy was later captured and excited electron states in atoms to become molecules etc. Time, then, is simply the translation of energy-to-substance and substance-to-energy. Were there only energy 'time' would be non-existent. Were there no energy, time would also be non-existent as matter would fail to undergo processes. Essentially, time is the interaction between matter and energy.
Since those interactions seem to occur on a quantum level, time gives the appearance of being 'stepwise' rather than continuous. That clock-hand 'springs forward' only when energy is released. Ultimately, time is our perception of change and that perception is based on what we might term 'consciousness' -- the interaction between matter and energy. As entropy accumulates, the universal clock is expected to run down. But consciousness (and life) hints at the possibility of counter-entropic processes.
Our civilization is poised on the knife's-edge of entropy and counter-entropy. Consciousness makes it possible for us to 'decide our own fate'. In choosing aright we move from entropic-fate to counter-entropic destiny...
If any of this makes sense to you, you may be 'counter-entropic'!
I was told that when scientist talk about infinity they mean a very high number but not literally infinite
At 41:29 _"The heavens declare the glory of God"_ could not agree more...
I love how little random movement is possible here.
All this time I thought Julian Barbour was a theoretical physicist but it turns out that he's a real live person after all.
At 42:18 Paul Dirac said _"God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world"_ yes I would also agree with that...
If the complexity was not 0 at Julien's Janus point (maybe he is using this as another name for big bang) then it could be a local minimum. In other words, there may be many more Janus Points. In that picture, we can think of only one direction of time from the earliest configuration to later configuration which may go thru many local minimums. In other words, the direction of time is unidirectional - an idea suggested by Tim Maudlin and different from Julien's idea of reverse direction of time on the other side of THE Janus point he talks about.
Barbour is asking the question the mainstream approach has been keeping quiet about for a good century or so now, which is if the universe itself is open or closed? And if its not closed, or could possibly be not closed, how are you going to apply entropy to it as a whole on a cosmological scale?
Because also if the universe is open, the very idea of a theory of everything, being looked for in the way the mainstream approach is looking for it becomes a nonsense.
Infinity is not a number! Even a computer 'knows' that!
I would have commented on it, but I don’t think it’s fair before I read this book. But it sounds interesting. I wanna say one thing about intelligent design, which doesn’t solve anything, because I have to ask who or what created the designer. One thing I’m sure of, is simplicity is a fundamental thing in nature/ the universe etc. ( niel turok) . I guess we have a long way to go before we can make a satisfying theory about everything.
It’s Neil !!!
@@ericpins9384 did you only have a comment about using a capital N . This must be very important, because I’m sure you didn’t understand what I wrote. Before you by your self saw who I were referring to before replacing it with the capital N. Sorry Niel Turok . FSM
Black holes take an infinite amount of time to form and therefore there are no black holes at all! Hence no information paradox either
It's the universe's analog to a computer clock speed exponentially slowing at is tries to compute the information, essentially freezing.
Time is infinitesimal compact dimension.
Vibrating strings, loop networks and spinors don't really fit the profile of how the big bang behaves. The mechanism that makes physics work should start small (like the big bang did) and then get larger in time. All that light cone stuff would make sense if the mechanism that causes physics to work, behaved like a light cone from time t= 0 to t = t0. In other words, only positive time for each light cone. Also, it wouldn't really be a cone, it would be a sphere that gets larger in time.
You're not seeing light cones correctly. They are a 2d representation of a 3d sphere in space time. If you imagine looking down into the cone the 2d cross section is an expanding circle representative of a slice of the sphere.
My momentum is a fraction of all you folks' groovy moves. Friggin!
If the universe was uniform before the big bang, I believe our number for it should be 1 not 0.
I feel like momentum is secondary to position as more fundamental based on my OBE 😂
Surely somehow the momentum connects to even #s and position odd? Or not and my woo woo maps need updating again 😆
The mic setup could be better.
The universe is ratios, yes! But if zero and singularities, and infinities make little sense...then what does that imply...about the big bang itself? 😀
And if time is only movement...what does that imply...about the very idea...of a direction? 😁
T=0 state is the moment in which momentum takes its place. Bethlehem is where and how its born. Look into these words I've mentioned above and it will be incredibly fun, that is if its truth you love!
Start: 2×10^-28 m^3/(kg s^3) ≈ (-∞ to -43, 43 to ∞) G^. (gravitational constant gradients) Finish.
My 🧠 hurts
Shouldn't it more accurately be called, if anything, the Big Expansion, instead of the Big Bang?
11:00 'we see angels..' see SPIRAL cosmological redshift hypothesis and model exhibit on parallax and the cosmic distance ladder..
in SPIRAL we conclude the mantle of science is w/in 'thousands, not billions', year age of the universe.
another interesting guest and interview.
Julian Barbour lets me the same feeling that Roger Penrose; supersmart, clear talking people, but that I can't understand what the heck are they talking about...
Can Julian, Brian, anyone understand Galilean relative motion: I.e. the earth is approaching the released object. If you don’t know what gravity is don’t call yourself a physicist.
Jean Pierre Petit avait écrit avant lui cette idée d'univers avec le temps inversé....c'est un copieur ???
Spacetime is made of Expanding gravitons. Expanding Gravitons act like water ripples. Expanding gravitons are continually being created; they are created faster at higher energy densities. Imagine a graviton with it's opposite edges expanding away from its center at the speed of light (radius r = ct). Now imagine two two gravitons that are centered on the expanding edge of the first graviton. If this was the universe, then the opposite edges of the universe would expand at 4 times the speed of light. Gravitons are sufficient to explain the inflationary epoch of the big bang.
Time is the equal and opposite direction of gravity. Direction of time is out and direction of gravity is in. Thereby gravity is focused where as time is dissipated. Silly Einstein said time is what the clock says that is like saying heat is what the thermometer says. The clock measures the rotation of the earth but is not time itself. Also heat is not temperature but does affect temperature. Einstein was a good thinker its the people that give him credibility that I wonder about. To escape gravity you reduce time to travel point A to point B from earth out to space showing the relationship. Reducing time to travel would be increasing velocity.
"Before common era"... oh, so progressive...
Brian; what is _"my religion?"_
The hydrogen atom has a size (the particles in space)
The box is needed for ego to see itself as individuals separate self- samadhi is no awareness of the box 😂
The skin box- the birth of the ego as separated by a skin bag - the manager of defense and protection and image of self - yay complexity and a cluster less blindspot
Barbour is the Last Newtonian
Lol. True
What I know from my consciousness point of you is whether it is the bottom up experience of kundalini or the top down experience of samadhi or the OBE my mins had- -It’s all a different experience of the triangle! With kundalini I didn’t experience the energy concentrated on the spine like a funnel coming up though it did go up. The other two experiences though… I could feel the force that was like a marble in a funnel shaped when I came back into my body, all I could feel was the shape of that force, the pace of it. And samadhi was a dualistic experience In the beginning with an inverted triangle of energy coming down.
Also I’ve never seen colorful or as in people but I do have a way to hallucinate, you look at people kind of like those magic I pictures with a diffuser viewing and people or pictures on the wall or anything on those can be like a shadow and once I saw this like inverted swirly shadow Luke a little dark tornado above this girls head while she was I think full of envy, what the heck
Colorful auras- OK that is one of the typos, I’ll just leave the rest to the mystery of life
And who asked this?
Around 22 mins
And with coming back into my body/ there was no size association- just the feel of the pace of a force with no associations on a felt sense level and the pre samadhi moment- where I dunno? The light of awareness came down? It felt like there inverted triangle was a shape matched to my body and that was how I knew the shape was an upside down funnel verses the pace gave it away with the OBE return
The* way mind and body has a lens and hearts anchor things is wow
Thermo patent office call energy transfer process perpetual motion 😒🤣😏🏗🏋♀️👣🛸🌊
Hi amazing, Tjarda Boekholt team, say time is irrevercible, in 3 body problem, whit Black holes. ...
You never hear about the white holes?
Hi, yes but they are theorical, no prove that they exist in real world. ...maybe one they experts detect one, all the best.
@@nunomaroco583 I do believe that they exist since according to the saying, "everything that goes in has to come out"
isnt that a biased arbitration in which Barbour tries to fit two triangles!?
he failed twice to answer Dr Keating question about the predictions of Janus Point!!
Standard BB or Janus Point? ... The asymmetry (arrow) of time which means the spontaneous accumulation of space-time (history): self-closure does not take place for the 4-line. Developing Einstein's hypothesis of cylindrical world GRT "migrates" into phase space, due to this it is quantized: it looks like Universe is an embryo. P.S. W. Pauli, RT, paragraph 22, Geometry of the Real World: "So far we have assumed that the form ds2 is a definite form. In the real space-time world, this does not take place, since ds2 in normal form has three positive and one negative term." *Apparently* time coordinate x0 pull along with it the spatial coordinates x(1), x(2), x(3), because if it is impossible to return to the past, than it is impossible to return to where " there" is not with the accumulation of space-time (age).
In timelessness we in a moment of time recreate the T=0 state. This is the John 3:16 correspondence I've been learning about. Meaning if we are the seeds in the Garden of Eden (Milky Way/Cosmic accumulation) we are Bethlehem . To know thyself is to know all things. Man is the measure of all things. Tree of life is spirit/God our true state Tree of Good n evil is physical/ego/devil
@@333STONE In general - no law of conservation of space-time is know, and the measure "of all things" is - variety.
30:20 This man just pulled a straight up Morpheus on us..
Nice plagiat on the french physicist Jean-Pierre Petit Who has been Working on the Janus theory for 40 years ...
Here you have another physicist trying to sweep the physics constants under the rug by declaring that scale doesn't matter. "Get rid of size", he says. It's not correct.
More technically, that thing which takes up no space, is not a thing at all, but no-thing, since whatever it is, it is certainly not physical. It is ineffable and infinite spirit. God. There is nothing else.
If there is only God, there is only 1 to divide in order to create the means by which Gnosis is gained, yet 1 remains timeless and unchanged, retaining its oneness forever. If we express this in the simplest terms, we can say 1 is divisible by n, where n is any number. This simple expression tells us immediately that, as the value given to n approaches 0, the value of 1/n approaches infinity, and visa versa.
1/n → 0, as n ---> infinity
1/n → infinity, as n -> 0.
Zero and infinity have an inverse proportional relationship around unity. The closer you get to one, the more you approach the other, yet one alone is all there is. In this sense, it can be stated that zero and infinity are the same in nature. This calls to mind the idea of reaching the top of the highest mountain there is. As you reach the singular tip, that shrinks to zero size, the infinite expanse opens up to you all around it.
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@@gimo6881 That was an excerpt from Phil Langdon you can find him on you tube. Have a look 🙂
@@333STONE Erm... No thanks. I'm not a Cristian fanatic.
@@gimo6881 You dont have to be a Christian fanatic nor even religious to know what the truth is.
@@333STONE 🤷♂️ well... whatever.
Another great interview Brian. Sadly I don’t think Julian Barbour made his theory or the testable predictions any clearer here than in his book, which I read. I think he could have avoided half of the book that included unwarranted criticisms of thermodynamics and statistical mechanics and just spent more time making his theory clear. Shape dynamics runs into problems it seems to me in the case of galaxy rotation, where shape is not as important and other factors and the rotation curves follow MOND. He didn’t even mention that. Statistical fluctuations also matter wrt structure formation.
... And who asked your opinion?
I do not understand why religion is relevant to or should have any influence on developing a scientific theory. These are two fundamentally different things.
I'm going to start by clarifying that I am an atheist. I use to think about this the same way as you but at some point while studying the philosophies that underlay science it became crystal clear why this happens.
I'm sure I'm not going to point out anything you aren't already aware of, yet and still there's no escaping the necessity of axioms that must be presumed and therein lay the problem right? If you're a smarty pants and really want to perserve your worldview then this can provide you a kind of safe space with which to do this. You can "experiment" in this area until you have something that let's you get to the same conclusions as already functional frameworks but stays within the bounds of your comfort... which if we're being intellectually honest is pretty much what everyone is doing.
Keeping to this intellectual honesty I find this exasperating and exhausting because this does mean we're always at the mercy of culture, there is a kernel of truth to the constructivist arguement of science, we rely heavily on intuition at the foundations and so social constructions will and do bleed into our science, I'm not sure we can ever isolate and insulate the practice from this.
I'm open to being corrected. 😅
Oh and at 42:46 we get Maxwell _"I have looked into most philosophical systems and I have seen that none will work without God"_ definitely like that one..
I believe it's amazing how much math people do but never look at what the numbers represent and most theory's don't account for coalitions of matter am I missing something or is he saying the fractal universe??? We must remember this is 3d space or a pyramid not a 2d triangle
I would humbly suggest _"love the lord they God with all thine heart and all thy soul and all thy mind ..."_ precedes _"love thy neighbour as thyself"_ because the former is a prerequisite. Which is like saying you can't really know yourself if you don't know who God is which follows from the fact we are told that he made us in his image.
And exodus 21:20 says slavery is ok n beating them is ok !!!!! Do u follow that commandment????
Neutron Decay cosmology is the physical process which solves Janus point theory
@Dr Brian Keating
so time did get slower in the early universe and now time goes faster and when matter are sarce time will again go slower becuase there are no interactions -so maybe time went real fast in the early universe and our 100 years equals to 200 in the early universe thus universe is younger than we thought .... and maybe im just ...wrong
Yes, You're wrong, as the fools as says about the "End of the universe" because in the end is a false theory.
he is wrong about shape and size, if you shift your perspective you can not only change how you perceive its size, but also its shape. together shape and size are lock and key and i call them form. this shows that in this universe both form and perspective are very fundamental to understanding it.
incidentally someone had said long ago, that even though we know energy=mass from einstein, we dont know how to realize it in the real world. according to this person its a matter of perspective, if we find the proper way to shift our perspective we can change our perception of mass into pure energy/light, and that of light into mass. he left it unclear if he was refering to changing the dimension we look thing through or something else, but overall what he says makes some sense to me.(come to think of it something could be said about psychedelics and the way they can change our perspective)
You cannot compare to someone who has studied the eternity and infinity the complex universe during his 83 years of life.
Around 1:17:48 Julian says _"if you leave out all the fine details this is broadly what we know about the universe"_ reflecting on the coincidence of his theory with the current _"unshakeable"_ belief that the universe started out very smooth with tiny irregularities which grew into what we see now. Well among other problems like where did the energy come from there is one really big one:
*When was the matter (particles) created?*
Because if the mass of the universe was all made in the early hot Big Bang (1e80 protons) then it would collapse back into a black hole! In fact if we enclose the whole mass in a sphere the *minimum* diameter of that sphere where the escape velocity equals the speed of light is 52.5 billion light years! So there can be no geometry in the early universe upon which Barbour's theory can hang!
This is fundamentally the problem of trying to make a universe without God when it is quite obvious that it was the creation of God from the observed order which must have been higher in the beginning. Which is why all naturalists must redefine the problem, in this case the meaning of entropy to get over the real problem and it doesn't work. This idea that for thermodynamics things have to be in a box is incorrect. The system boundary does not have to be physical and the universe's mass can be thought of as within a finite boundary.
You cannot compare to someone who has studied the eternity and infinity the complex universe during his 83 years of life.
@@gimo6881 Well he wasted his life because he has no answers which make any sense. It's really obvious that the second law absolutely precludes the universe creating itself.. That is just plain dumb!
@@mikebellamy what a toughhead fool...
@@gimo6881 Atheists don't know the second law..
@@mikebellamy 🤦♂️
This ain’t Judge Dredd! The dome 👆 is unbreakable so flat is the earth
Are you an idiot or what...?