Besides equipment, Samuel Luria commented on my last video and made me realize, I seriously need to get some insurance if I'm going to be doing this. Shit can happen to anyone, at anytime.
Hey Human, I love the vids and really enjoy the different shots. I have been reading the comments and hear a lot of good advice but I also have to say a few things jump out at me being a retired business owner. The comment about insurance is good advice. Anything can go wrong and often does. Sometimes small, sometimes huge. If you are paying someone to work for you and they are not an independent contractor then you may need workman's comp insurance on them depending on what State you are in. Some municipalities require a business license to do any work and you may have to get it for each city you work in. If you are working for someone full time and only doing side work, this might not sit well with your current employer, especially if your jobs are being done in the same jurisdiction. You are taking jobs that could be his. Until you are ready to branch out (no pun intended) on your own, and start a full fledged business, you might be better off making a deal with your employer to get a bonus commission plus your regular salary on all jobs you generate. You get an extra bonus and he takes all the liability, a win win. Its been my experience that loyal employees usually get great recommendations, a hand, and some work thrown there way when they do start up their own company. Not always, some bosses are dicks, but you wouldn't be working for one of those guys very long with your skills. Just some food for thought. Keep up the great vids and stay safe.
Thanks for the tips! Been researching, and doing the lynda.com business training, and there's way more to it than I ever thought. Not ready to go out on my own by any means, just doing the occasional side job. I'm back where I started trees at, took some other experience to realize how well the company is run. Side work was one of the issues leading me to leave in the first place, but I was upfront about not stopping, so we agreed that it's ok. I don't go looking for work anyway, just what comes my way. Learning that doing a job well gets you many clients though, do a job for a family member, at the end of the job you've 5 bids for neighbors to give. To the point where I have to stop taking jobs, a little time off is needed, lol.
joe Schlotthauer not much education required I dropped out of high school and I had my own business I climbed and then everything else any dumbass can do this
Brian Cash lmao let the boy dream dammit. Hahaha life doesn't suck until your at least 18, then when your 25 you understand how much it sucks, by time your 30, you should've figured out how to minimize the suck.
@@dirtbag4559 haha you probably did shit work and went out of "business" (pickup a chainsaw and some spurs counts as a buisness now?) from lack of repeat clients, and now you're sour about it. So many guys like you think they can be proper arborists, and especially climbers without understanding proper pruning/deadwooding, efficient climbing, and how the biology of trees, especially different species, works. Sure you don't need a masters but the tree industry is unfortunately full of fuckheads like yourself that think they know it all and then die or knock some big shit down on a house or powerline, fuck up the whole job so the actual qualified people who graduated highschool can step in and slowly start to fix your awful work over the course of years. Any dumbass can do this, any dumbass can weld, any dumbass can do electrical, key point no dumbass such as yourself can do these things properly even though they think they're hot shit hahaha. So how'd your business end there bud?
Man watching this video gives me flashbacks from when I broke my arm in 3 places rigging shit the exact same way. Real long out in the middle. A top swung back and I didn't tell my ground guys to drop it. The butt end flew past me then swung into me and knocked me into a stob. Arm broke in 3 places and have nerve damage in my left lower forearm, wrist, and hand and in my foot
Thanks =) Seems like the more I get into it, the more stressful it gets. Didn't realize just how much is involved with running a legit business (not that I'm legit yet).
It takes awhile to get a full system down for running a business.. but once you do its well worth it.. And with the love and dedication you have for it I have no doubt you'll get There in no time.. Keep up the good work!
Human yeah man don't stress. One step at a time. Everything will become more routine and easier but the beginning can be kind of tough. Your going to do great. Good luck bro.
Human...did U not learn anything from "Dan the Conman"? If U were using his chainsaw...we could of watched 2 more hrs of video after editing! Hope Ur not offended by the comment...Ur a true "Tree Man" & see Ur ability n every video. Prayed for Ur recovery after the horrendous fall...bruh- mad respect for U!! Don't think I could of filmed the rod through the leg procedure. Put my ass to sleep!
Pleasure to watch. I didn't own a chainsaw until I was 40 and ever since wished I'd had one at 18. Great job, you got them landing pefectly, if I was a young man at the start of my career, id have done this instead of what I did. Make a good living, don't come off the tools until your not able to do it anymore, then worry about growing the business much bigger, enjoy your work rather than money. Everyone needs money, but you need self satisfaction more.
The quote at the end is the same issue with me. I got a small tractor all the climbing gear and a truck. I need a good steady groundie and a chipper good video ..had some heavy limbs up top
Extremely talented professional! If your ever in Poconos in Pa there is an ocean of side jobs here and can let wood right on site. I’ll pay for a vacation here for a half days work lol.
You're right, insurance is very important for a tree man/Arborist. One of his crew fell from the tree and nearly ruptured a disc in his back. Without insurance, that would have been the end of the company. He'd have had to sell his trucks, chippers and saws to get it paid for. My brother often complained about how expensive insurance was for his men. His wife was constantly on the phone with insurance companies trying to find a better rate. It's a treat to watch your videos. Also, if you open your own business, go LLC; you limit your liability that way. If the company goes down, it won't take you down with it.
I also notice your roper not dropping the limbs out of your area quick enough the one almost hitting you having to jump. If he let's it ride for a few feet you can prevent a serious injury. Smashing a leg or hand can end careers before they start. Stay safe
Adam Polinski For real that's some of the worst roping I have ever seen! Theses ground guys need to be up there with a climber one time to see how easy it is to break some ones legs or arms or get some one crushed by not letting the limb run. If I was Corey I would have chewed his ass out! I don't know if they are too stupid to realize what they are doing is dangerous as hell or if they are not skilled enough to be able to let it run at least enough to get clear of the climber. But I as a climber make sure I have a good ground guy roping for me especially when big wood is involved as it's just too dangerous for green horns!!!!!!
You don't need a chipper brotha. Just 2 GOOD hands. I've been in business for 3 years and we have almost every tree down and cleaned up in 10 hours. All I use is my climbing gear and a pick up with a trailer 👍 Don't be afraid to venture on your own. You got this✊
1 good guy = 20+ / hr? Plus work comp and payroll expenses so more like 30. 10 hour day x 30 = 300. A good used 6 inch chipper is 5k. That's 17 days of labor to pay off. Figure 19 for fuel and knives etc. I ALWAYS know where my chipper is. He always shows up. He doesn't talk back. He makes work alot easier. "GOOD" help? Very hard to find. Not even used on craigslist can I find them. They are there, but rare these days. More equipment for the win! Just my thoughts. Lol
Great job man and yeah we have to crawl before we walk in this business and I'm sure by the end of the year you should have your truck and chipper. I am working on my first dump truck for now but these bills never stop...lol
Nice job, you are on the right path. I bought a f350 landscape body first. Could haul brush wood/chips. Rented a chipper when I needed it. Bought chipper next.
Nice, have access to a 6" vermeer chipper, need something to chip into though. Dad's a cadillac mechanic, and says that if it's not a GMC or Chevy, he's not working on it, lol, so that limits it a bit. Looking at a couple on craigslist now though, couple chevy 3500 diesel 4x4's with flat beds that would work well. Can just build a box/whatever for the back.
Healthy? It was covered in death, and it looked like it had some parasitic growths in the branches (yes, there are parasitic plants, too - like mistletoe). Besides, if the homeowner doesn't want it, down she goes.
nice job on the take down . just a heads up that green lanyard looks like it has a big cut on it please check it don't want to watch you get hurt . okay bud be safe
just looking out for ya more eyes are better than 2 . Its funny how someone from the outside notices things . I was a climber for a short while at a tech class in high school and new york state tree felling champ for 2 years in a row . I do so enjoy watching talented climbers pick a tree apart it is an art form . Plus i saw a video with a adorable little daughter i would feel guilty if i saw that rope and said nothing . Be safe my friend
Get it! Damn, all trailered out.. that's a lot of friggen work! Hope you charged enough to make the sore back all worth it haha. That lanyard has seen better days, my good man
I don’t know if by now you’ve got a chip dump truck or chipper but thought I’d recommend checking out equipment auctions. Often you can find pretty killer prices. I bough a 2002 f550 7.3 Powerstroke diesel 4x4 manual transmission with 60k miles (these trucks go 500k to 1mil miles) bought it for 11k it’s easily worth $25k-$35k or more if I sold it, based on Craigslist markets I’ve seen. Figured I’d drop a line a suggest checking them out. I’m west coast but I see some auctions east coast that have killer deals from time to time.
Wow, great job. Still getting my confidence climbing but I started with nothing but a chainsaw. Now I have gear, ropes, spurs, and a trailer. Nothing like feeling like a man at work. Also, I saw you took a bad fall. I hope you recover bro. You do good work and your videos rock.
Also, someone else may have said it, but when rigging limbs down like this, the groundie should let it run. Bit before slowing it down. It allows the hinge to do its job and breaks clean, then since its in freefall for a couple feet, it's gets out of your work space so it's not a danger to you.
Sweet video. Real smooth. The saw looks super rad. I ended up getting the clogger zero climbing chaps but you where so right about them being hot. I'd never had chaps before and wow they're pretty warm. Feels like I'm wearing snow pants. I'm going to get the clogger spider ones like you got in a little bit.
Yeah, I'd love to say I wear chaps as I should, fact is though, when it's hot out, I don't ever wear them. After about 30 mins with them on, I'm about completely drained/dehydrated. They should be awesome when it's cold out though!
If we payed people by their skill, effort and artistry as in your videos what the money pusher people like stock traders, mortgage lenders, and lawyers earn it would make the world more fair. In history the makers were the most essential to the tribe and taught what they knew to the next generation so they would literally be able to survive. Present day, the makers, doers and teachers don't get what they deserve. I value these videos and wish you all the success you deserve. Shout out to good mechanics, farmers, tradesmen that toil everyday keeping this world running for the lavish lifestyles of hedge fund managers, CEOs, arms dealers and other pieces of shit.
Hey buddy, nice video, I came over from August. It looks like you're a natural at the game. I'm no tree expert, so I can't comment on your methods etc, but you seemed to have planned well and have good equipment. I thought of one thing, do the limbs and boughs damage the lawns when they fall? Maybe you could have some ply or other board that fits in the back of your truck that you could lay out to protect peoples lawns from damage during the process. I imagine you could rope down or ratchet strap the boards on top of any load you had to carry away, as the boards would be the last thing to pick up. It's the kind of thing that might win you more work. Neighbour says to neighbour "and you know what, they even protected my lawn from damage while they did the job"! That could be the difference that gets you the job, even if your bid is similar to another arborist. I wish you all the best in your progression and hope you achieve your aims in a field you are obviously gifted in. All the best and good luck, Tim (Spain)
I got scared like fifteen times just by watching this because when the big logs came swinging back around towards him. I looked like he almost fell. And falling out of a tree is my worst fear
not sure if you are still working with trailer and truck but for bigger trees i would reccomend looking into getting a dumpster. I just took on a big side job of a 5ft diameter maple and i was planning on taking it to the dump bit by bit, but then priced out what it would be for a dumpster and it turns out to be a lot cheaper..
Hey Cory I was wondering if you could tell me a good place to learn different ways of rigging trees, I’m a new climber and I’m really interested, Love the videos!
BTW when you made that notch when you said 20 was a little short, no pull rope necessary. (smart to play it safe like you do thoug) if you can get your notch to go past center from where its cut up through the top then it will go way of notch everytime. also a larger deeper notch will help large logs flip more and land flat. Great work.
Absolutely, just had a bit of back lean, playing it safe. Thanks for the tip on notchs, having a tough time judging rotation to try and make the larger sections land flat, far too big to manhandle as they go over. Totally did this job SUPER CHEAP as well, 8$, got me some smokes for a day
Human cameras are good liars. why I usually don't comment. also even with a backlean. if your notch can be cut past center in relation to the top it will go that way. give it a shot one day when you arent worried if it did happen to tip backwards. I think you might be pleasantly surprised. happy cutting. note I like your attention to your own personal safety.
I appreciate all comments, I've learned a whole lot that way, I've still only a year in trees, and not quite a year in climbing, so I know I've still much to learn. Totally agree with the notch depth tip, don't understand at all when a tree is totally topped out, only a stem left, you still often see guys only going 1/3 on the notch. With that much weight removed, I go way deep, take the back of that notch past the center of gravity and it goes over on it's own. Smack my head whevener I see others struggling to wedge/pry a stem past it's center of gravity.
Human you only go 1/3 because that will give you the most hinge wood to control the piece if you’re cutting more than 60 percent of the way through the diameter of the piece on your face notch you are leaving yourself a mighty small amount of hinge on your back cut. You are running a risk of pinching your saw or even having the piece fall backwards.
I only do my own wood around the farm and out in the woods for firewood. Still, you can get just as fucked up! I watch these videos frequently and have learned tons, which has boosted my confidence and made me more conscious of all the hazards and using better techniques to do it better and safer. Really enjoy your personality and approach to things Human. Just recently subbed! Rock on 🤘 brother and keep the good vids coming.
You do one other technique that I'm a big fan of!!...tie the rope high... come down far enough and have the groundsman step backwards with the rope tie off and pull with the TRUCK!!!...
Have you tried putting direction cuts aimed towards your rigging point? Helps swing those branches round and if they are tied off mid-length on the branch they will swing round easier! 🖒 Climb safe pal.
He's right. Also bro...if you keep making your notch upside down like that it's gonna not work out for you one day. I only make that notch when I want the limb to rotate on the fall more for whatever specific reason. Controlling that log or top is important. one day it's gonna land mid turn with all that momentum and turn into a missle and go through a wall or a person. Also if you reverse your notch and make it skinnier and leave a little more meat on it to pop off instead of such a clean cut you can "jump" the log or top off...givng you much more clearance from the base. useful when getting over fences and such close to the base of the tree. Lastly...I notice you drop logs into piles somewhat often...near houses and fences as well...I'd have my ground men clear that pile up every so often...big ol log dropping 50 feet hits another log and shoots off to the side...again...goin through a house, fence, or person...no bueno. Be safe man.
Not trying to preach bro...I'm 11 years in this and just passin on some advice. Everyone does things different but it never hurts to keep an open mind and try new things...have a good one!
LOL, that's good, because almost all of mine are that way =) I've actually got a couple new red head wedges in the tool box if I need them, just usually go for the gnarly ones to keep the ones in good shape, in good shape.
Jason Webb I see what you are saying by that but you also have to think about it if you would have let some of them run they would have damaged the house
I call BS on that!! There is plenty of room to let it run without hitting the house. A climber is a helluva lot more important than the house. At least let it run far enough to get below the climber then he can hold as long as he wants. These ground guys don't understand that by holding it they are doing the worst possible thing they can do! They need to be up with a climber one time to see how dangerous this is and then maybe they will understand it much better when their ass is on the line!!!!!
That’s the boat I’m in right now straight physical labor but hey I’ve been doing it since I was 14 so I ain’t new to this shit, I’m true to this shit 😂
Hey mate was wondering what bigger saw u had up in the tree with u to bring the bigger limbs down . atm I can't decide between grabbing a 462 or a 36 to go along with my 201 .. Cheers
Hey, I was just curious, towards the end of your video, were you using a ms 661c-m? I couldn't see the flywheel side of the saw, but the startup sounded alot like how mine sounds when I first start it up?
What saw was that you were using Matey, Nice work Mate. I really think your, your own harshest critic don't listen to lounge room lizards at anytime, I am into Horses amongst other things and friends with one of the Best this Country has ever made and he always used to say when they are standing in front of me at the Pay window rather than behind me then I might listen
My question is why do you not give it some rope as soon as it is cut,instead of letting it hang and swing, , get it goin down out of the way safer.its all in the timing and friction.
Your last comment about chipper and lot's of maual labor. That's where I am at now. I need a truck, chipper and eventually a skid loader with claw and I should be very well off. Beyond that a bucket truck. Hope you are moving forward. Until next time.
Not to bad. The one big branch u thought was a mistake worked better since it went butt down first. And ur grounds man needs a little work on the porter wrap to get it to run to stay away from you.
Yeah, kept it away from the house well that way, wasn't planned though, so something I need to do better next time. Judging center of gravity can be a bit tricky I feel, especially with a bunch of foliage on the tips, much heavier than my intuition tells me usually.
Human yeah wasnt to bad. Everything comes into the thought process. The diameter how long how the spread is. Definitely a challenge but was clean. Grounds man needs a little help for a few days on how many wraps. And u seem like ur getting better with the line up of ur face cuts.
So for those who do not know what a side job is let me clarify, a side job is when an employee under bids his employer or when someone asks him to do a job for less money. So here is what you get when you hire someone outside of a legitimate company. First your are hiring someone with no insurance, meaning you as the homeowner are not only liable for any damage to your home or others but also when your cheap bid falls, cuts himself or someone else, also when a log or debris hits and does damage or kills someone, all this falls on you! Now you might ask how do I know this, well because I’ve been on both sides of this, I actually turned it into a business. So next time you think you want to save some money first ask yourselves is it worth the gamble.
For a climber, putting on the ground is the ez part. Cleaning it up sucks ass. I made a shitload of money freelancing for for landscapers and let them clean up the mess.
the key to not fucking up is to make smaller cuts when there shit near the drop zone. also when that 362 breaks in send it to brad snelling or jack from hotsaws101. when you get it back slap a 28 inch bar with full skip semi chisel on there, it'll cut some wood then
Samuel Luria for the same reason people climb with stihl 880s and husky 3120s with 41-59 inch bars. big tree big bar. it makes things go smoother and reduces risk of making mistakes cutting
You know me Corey, I'm always honest, good or bad. I know you were green here, so I'll be nice. Your cuts were sloppy as hell, which means you didn't position your self correctly. This is the first job that I've ever seen the groundie do better than the climber, kudo's for him, he worked his ass off. I'm glad you've grown.
what do you use for the cleanup? for my small little family company, we use a standard, 8x6 trailer with a 6-foot rise. and when we clean up what we do is; once we add the brush in, we then compact it by cutting the branches down to make more room.. the poor man's chipper is what I call it. We separate the large from the small that way the cutting is faster and easier. I am able to fit quite a lot in my little trailer. after hearing this took you and your pops 9 hours to clean up I just wanted to share my 2 cents and hopefully, i may have helped.
At the time I was using a tandem trailer, being pulled by my dads 1/2 ton, so we had to make quite a few trips. Since then I picked up the duramax, and my buddy bought a huge dump trailer he lets me use, so it would've been much quicker now. I do the same as you though, load it up, cut it up in the trailer, load it up again =)
Your an exelent worker my friend. I like this video. Im from sweden and more ore less raised with a huskey chainsaw. It isnt the big ones that are dangerous it the small ones and that you are getting cookey. How many trees do you have to process to pay for damage on your car. Put it away.
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No idea how I got here but glad I did
Ain't gunna.find one of those saws in da garbage taco.
Damn I thought it was going to hit the truck for a sec lol
Hey Human, I love the vids and really enjoy the different shots. I have been reading the comments and hear a lot of good advice but I also have to say a few things jump out at me being a retired business owner. The comment about insurance is good advice. Anything can go wrong and often does. Sometimes small, sometimes huge. If you are paying someone to work for you and they are not an independent contractor then you may need workman's comp insurance on them depending on what State you are in. Some municipalities require a business license to do any work and you may have to get it for each city you work in. If you are working for someone full time and only doing side work, this might not sit well with your current employer, especially if your jobs are being done in the same jurisdiction. You are taking jobs that could be his. Until you are ready to branch out (no pun intended) on your own, and start a full fledged business, you might be better off making a deal with your employer to get a bonus commission plus your regular salary on all jobs you generate. You get an extra bonus and he takes all the liability, a win win. Its been my experience that loyal employees usually get great recommendations, a hand, and some work thrown there way when they do start up their own company. Not always, some bosses are dicks, but you wouldn't be working for one of those guys very long with your skills. Just some food for thought. Keep up the great vids and stay safe.
Thanks for the tips! Been researching, and doing the lynda.com business training, and there's way more to it than I ever thought. Not ready to go out on my own by any means, just doing the occasional side job. I'm back where I started trees at, took some other experience to realize how well the company is run. Side work was one of the issues leading me to leave in the first place, but I was upfront about not stopping, so we agreed that it's ok. I don't go looking for work anyway, just what comes my way. Learning that doing a job well gets you many clients though, do a job for a family member, at the end of the job you've 5 bids for neighbors to give. To the point where I have to stop taking jobs, a little time off is needed, lol.
I can smell the wood and the 2stroke oil from watching this video.
mmmmmmm Good stuff!
that’s the good stuff...
Civilized Delinquent nothing but a summer day an a big glass of sweet tea after a job like this.
So can I, smells good
At my age, I have no intentions of doing this, but its fascinating to watch, it involves physics, science, and a high level of education. Best,
joe Schlotthauer not much education required I dropped out of high school and I had my own business I climbed and then everything else any dumbass can do this
Brian Cash lmao let the boy dream dammit. Hahaha life doesn't suck until your at least 18, then when your 25 you understand how much it sucks, by time your 30, you should've figured out how to minimize the suck.
@@dirtbag4559 haha you probably did shit work and went out of "business" (pickup a chainsaw and some spurs counts as a buisness now?) from lack of repeat clients, and now you're sour about it. So many guys like you think they can be proper arborists, and especially climbers without understanding proper pruning/deadwooding, efficient climbing, and how the biology of trees, especially different species, works. Sure you don't need a masters but the tree industry is unfortunately full of fuckheads like yourself that think they know it all and then die or knock some big shit down on a house or powerline, fuck up the whole job so the actual qualified people who graduated highschool can step in and slowly start to fix your awful work over the course of years. Any dumbass can do this, any dumbass can weld, any dumbass can do electrical, key point no dumbass such as yourself can do these things properly even though they think they're hot shit hahaha. So how'd your business end there bud?
polk4pres I never advertised customers kept me busy And over bid work trying to not get it cuz I had more than I knew what to do with
@@dirtbag4559 haha so you went out of buisness because you had too much buisness? Nice explanation there. Ya you were definitely a shit tree guy lol.
I love the amount of appreciation you show your workers, you don't get that over here in the UK, great work
Man watching this video gives me flashbacks from when I broke my arm in 3 places rigging shit the exact same way. Real long out in the middle. A top swung back and I didn't tell my ground guys to drop it. The butt end flew past me then swung into me and knocked me into a stob. Arm broke in 3 places and have nerve damage in my left lower forearm, wrist, and hand and in my foot
I like the communication. Good teamwork.
that was smooth as fuck you have learned super fast man you are going to go a long ways in this game
Thanks =) Seems like the more I get into it, the more stressful it gets. Didn't realize just how much is involved with running a legit business (not that I'm legit yet).
It takes awhile to get a full system down for running a business.. but once you do its well worth it.. And with the love and dedication you have for it I have no doubt you'll get There in no time..
Keep up the good work!
Human yeah man don't stress. One step at a time. Everything will become more routine and easier but the beginning can be kind of tough. Your going to do great. Good luck bro.
Thanks much. Not going at it on my own just yet though, just going to be doing more and more over time, try and learn it slow, not jump head first.
Human...did U not learn anything from "Dan the Conman"? If U were using his chainsaw...we could of watched 2 more hrs of video after editing! Hope Ur not offended by the comment...Ur a true "Tree Man" & see Ur ability n every video. Prayed for Ur recovery after the horrendous fall...bruh- mad respect for U!! Don't think I could of filmed the rod through the leg procedure. Put my ass to sleep!
Pleasure to watch. I didn't own a chainsaw until I was 40 and ever since wished I'd had one at 18. Great job, you got them landing pefectly, if I was a young man at the start of my career, id have done this instead of what I did. Make a good living, don't come off the tools until your not able to do it anymore, then worry about growing the business much bigger, enjoy your work rather than money. Everyone needs money, but you need self satisfaction more.
Absolutely agree, I care more about enjoying my career than about making as much money as I can. Glad you eventually got a saw =) Enjoy it
The quote at the end is the same issue with me. I got a small tractor all the climbing gear and a truck. I need a good steady groundie and a chipper good video ..had some heavy limbs up top
Extremely talented professional! If your ever in Poconos in Pa there is an ocean of side jobs here and can let wood right on site. I’ll pay for a vacation here for a half days work lol.
You're right, insurance is very important for a tree man/Arborist. One of his crew fell from the tree and nearly ruptured a disc in his back. Without insurance, that would have been the end of the company. He'd have had to sell his trucks, chippers and saws to get it paid for. My brother often complained about how expensive insurance was for his men. His wife was constantly on the phone with insurance companies trying to find a better rate. It's a treat to watch your videos. Also, if you open your own business, go LLC; you limit your liability that way. If the company goes down, it won't take you down with it.
Thanks for the tip
You can also get your guys insurance through a temp agency
I also notice your roper not dropping the limbs out of your area quick enough the one almost hitting you having to jump. If he let's it ride for a few feet you can prevent a serious injury. Smashing a leg or hand can end careers before they start. Stay safe
Adam Polinski For real that's some of the worst roping I have ever seen! Theses ground guys need to be up there with a climber one time to see how easy it is to break some ones legs or arms or get some one crushed by not letting the limb run. If I was Corey I would have chewed his ass out! I don't know if they are too stupid to realize what they are doing is dangerous as hell or if they are not skilled enough to be able to let it run at least enough to get clear of the climber. But I as a climber make sure I have a good ground guy roping for me especially when big wood is involved as it's just too dangerous for green horns!!!!!!
You don't need a chipper brotha. Just 2 GOOD hands. I've been in business for 3 years and we have almost every tree down and cleaned up in 10 hours. All I use is my climbing gear and a pick up with a trailer 👍 Don't be afraid to venture on your own. You got this✊
It doesn't hurt to have a chipper, though - especially for garbage wood like Gum.
1 good guy = 20+ / hr? Plus work comp and payroll expenses so more like 30. 10 hour day x 30 = 300. A good used 6 inch chipper is 5k. That's 17 days of labor to pay off. Figure 19 for fuel and knives etc. I ALWAYS know where my chipper is. He always shows up. He doesn't talk back. He makes work alot easier. "GOOD" help? Very hard to find. Not even used on craigslist can I find them. They are there, but rare these days. More equipment for the win! Just my thoughts. Lol
Great job man and yeah we have to crawl before we walk in this business and I'm sure by the end of the year you should have your truck and chipper. I am working on my first dump truck for now but these bills never stop...lol
I know! =( Thought I had a functional 1 ton dump last weekend, texted the guy to let him know I was on my way, and he says in just sold.........DAMMIT
Trees: We're so big and strong, puny humans can't touch us!
Some random human: Invents the chainsaw.
Trees: Oh fuck..!
Honestly a badass job. Love your passion too
Nice video! I love your choice of saws and technique! Something tells me you're going to go far with this arborist gig... lol
I hope so! Pretty much all in right now, and still loving it.
Nice job, you are on the right path. I bought a f350 landscape body first. Could haul brush wood/chips. Rented a chipper when I needed it. Bought chipper next.
Nice, have access to a 6" vermeer chipper, need something to chip into though. Dad's a cadillac mechanic, and says that if it's not a GMC or Chevy, he's not working on it, lol, so that limits it a bit. Looking at a couple on craigslist now though, couple chevy 3500 diesel 4x4's with flat beds that would work well. Can just build a box/whatever for the back.
WHY ANYONE WOULD WANT TO CUT DOWN THAT BEAUTIFUL HEALTHY TREE IS BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION!
Healthy? It was covered in death, and it looked like it had some parasitic growths in the branches (yes, there are parasitic plants, too - like mistletoe). Besides, if the homeowner doesn't want it, down she goes.
nice job on the take down . just a heads up that green lanyard looks like it has a big cut on it please check it don't want to watch you get hurt . okay bud be safe
Correct, just noticed it myself on that climb, must have nicked it with my silky. I'll be splicing another soon.
just looking out for ya more eyes are better than 2 . Its funny how someone from the outside notices things . I was a climber for a short while at a tech class in high school and new york state tree felling champ for 2 years in a row . I do so enjoy watching talented climbers pick a tree apart it is an art form . Plus i saw a video with a adorable little daughter i would feel guilty if i saw that rope and said nothing . Be safe my friend
Oooo your Lanyard is almost broken! Dont Take anymore chances Like that
Get it! Damn, all trailered out.. that's a lot of friggen work! Hope you charged enough to make the sore back all worth it haha. That lanyard has seen better days, my good man
Should have called Dan's tree service for help!!! Lmao
I love watching true pros apply their trade. Thank you.
You got this...been there done that, came out the other side grinning
I don’t know if by now you’ve got a chip dump truck or chipper but thought I’d recommend checking out equipment auctions. Often you can find pretty killer prices. I bough a
2002 f550 7.3 Powerstroke diesel 4x4 manual transmission with 60k miles (these trucks go 500k to 1mil miles) bought it for 11k it’s easily worth $25k-$35k or more if I sold it, based on Craigslist markets I’ve seen. Figured I’d drop a line a suggest checking them out. I’m west coast but I see some auctions east coast that have killer deals from time to time.
Wow, great job. Still getting my confidence climbing but I started with nothing but a chainsaw. Now I have gear, ropes, spurs, and a trailer. Nothing like feeling like a man at work. Also, I saw you took a bad fall. I hope you recover bro. You do good work and your videos rock.
Also, someone else may have said it, but when rigging limbs down like this, the groundie should let it run. Bit before slowing it down. It allows the hinge to do its job and breaks clean, then since its in freefall for a couple feet, it's gets out of your work space so it's not a danger to you.
Sweet video. Real smooth. The saw looks super rad. I ended up getting the clogger zero climbing chaps but you where so right about them being hot. I'd never had chaps before and wow they're pretty warm. Feels like I'm wearing snow pants. I'm going to get the clogger spider ones like you got in a little bit.
Yeah, I'd love to say I wear chaps as I should, fact is though, when it's hot out, I don't ever wear them. After about 30 mins with them on, I'm about completely drained/dehydrated. They should be awesome when it's cold out though!
Yeah looking forward to when it's not hot as crap out. Keep it up and Stay safe🤙
If we payed people by their skill, effort and artistry as in your videos what the money pusher people like stock traders, mortgage lenders, and lawyers earn it would make the world more fair. In history the makers were the most essential to the tribe and taught what they knew to the next generation so they would literally be able to survive. Present day, the makers, doers and teachers don't get what they deserve. I value these videos and wish you all the success you deserve. Shout out to good mechanics, farmers, tradesmen that toil everyday keeping this world running for the lavish lifestyles of hedge fund managers, CEOs, arms dealers and other pieces of shit.
Hey buddy, nice video, I came over from August. It looks like you're a natural at the game. I'm no tree expert, so I can't comment on your methods etc, but you seemed to have planned well and have good equipment. I thought of one thing, do the limbs and boughs damage the lawns when they fall? Maybe you could have some ply or other board that fits in the back of your truck that you could lay out to protect peoples lawns from damage during the process. I imagine you could rope down or ratchet strap the boards on top of any load you had to carry away, as the boards would be the last thing to pick up. It's the kind of thing that might win you more work. Neighbour says to neighbour "and you know what, they even protected my lawn from damage while they did the job"! That could be the difference that gets you the job, even if your bid is similar to another arborist. I wish you all the best in your progression and hope you achieve your aims in a field you are obviously gifted in. All the best and good luck, Tim (Spain)
Evidence of a Fabulous Life I
I got scared like fifteen times just by watching this because when the big logs came swinging back around towards him. I looked like he almost fell. And falling out of a tree is my worst fear
That jazz about the road cones had me rolling!
Good gear and good saws makes a big difference. And yes good groundies
not sure if you are still working with trailer and truck but for bigger trees i would reccomend looking into getting a dumpster. I just took on a big side job of a 5ft diameter maple and i was planning on taking it to the dump bit by bit, but then priced out what it would be for a dumpster and it turns out to be a lot cheaper..
That chainsaw sounds like a pissed off chihuahua
Nice job and thank you for sharing
Hey Cory I was wondering if you could tell me a good place to learn different ways of rigging trees, I’m a new climber and I’m really interested, Love the videos!
It's cool that you and your dad get to do work that you enjoy together.
Nice cones :) I've got two cones, I must be big time too :)
BTW when you made that notch when you said 20 was a little short, no pull rope necessary. (smart to play it safe like you do thoug) if you can get your notch to go past center from where its cut up through the top then it will go way of notch everytime. also a larger deeper notch will help large logs flip more and land flat. Great work.
Absolutely, just had a bit of back lean, playing it safe. Thanks for the tip on notchs, having a tough time judging rotation to try and make the larger sections land flat, far too big to manhandle as they go over.
Totally did this job SUPER CHEAP as well, 8$, got me some smokes for a day
Human cameras are good liars. why I usually don't comment. also even with a backlean. if your notch can be cut past center in relation to the top it will go that way. give it a shot one day when you arent worried if it did happen to tip backwards. I think you might be pleasantly surprised. happy cutting. note I like your attention to your own personal safety.
glad to hear you got the smokes. as always, super cheap, super SEXY!!!
I appreciate all comments, I've learned a whole lot that way, I've still only a year in trees, and not quite a year in climbing, so I know I've still much to learn. Totally agree with the notch depth tip, don't understand at all when a tree is totally topped out, only a stem left, you still often see guys only going 1/3 on the notch. With that much weight removed, I go way deep, take the back of that notch past the center of gravity and it goes over on it's own. Smack my head whevener I see others struggling to wedge/pry a stem past it's center of gravity.
Human you only go 1/3 because that will give you the most hinge wood to control the piece if you’re cutting more than 60 percent of the way through the diameter of the piece on your face notch you are leaving yourself a mighty small amount of hinge on your back cut. You are running a risk of pinching your saw or even having the piece fall backwards.
I only do my own wood around the farm and out in the woods for firewood.
Still, you can get just as fucked up!
I watch these videos frequently and have learned tons, which has boosted my confidence and made me more conscious of all the hazards and using better techniques to do it better and safer.
Really enjoy your personality and approach to things Human.
Just recently subbed!
Rock on 🤘 brother and keep the good vids coming.
Awesome work man.
It's satisfying to watch your talent...super dangerous though!
That is cool as fuck. I'm scared of heights so there is no way I could do that. But it's certainly cool to watch.
Thats dope.. skills all day
I like the paint job on your saw bro.. Nice take down btw!!
You do one other technique that I'm a big fan of!!...tie the rope high... come down far enough and have the groundsman step backwards with the rope tie off and pull with the TRUCK!!!...
Move to the ozarks let’s cut sum but I’m stayin on the GROUND 😂 you do good work
Very nice work.
Nicely done sir
Nice cones... need to get ya a super sweet mini-van like Dan Dan the Fraud tree man
Awesome! Any tree guy not willing to put his own red pickup truck in danger........lol
Their dads red pickup truck? LOL
This was right before I bought my truck, drove his backup for along time
That new saw looks badass!!
Have you tried putting direction cuts aimed towards your rigging point? Helps swing those branches round and if they are tied off mid-length on the branch they will swing round easier! 🖒 Climb safe pal.
Thanks for the tip, didn't know that.
He's right. Also bro...if you keep making your notch upside down like that it's gonna not work out for you one day. I only make that notch when I want the limb to rotate on the fall more for whatever specific reason. Controlling that log or top is important. one day it's gonna land mid turn with all that momentum and turn into a missle and go through a wall or a person. Also if you reverse your notch and make it skinnier and leave a little more meat on it to pop off instead of such a clean cut you can "jump" the log or top off...givng you much more clearance from the base. useful when getting over fences and such close to the base of the tree. Lastly...I notice you drop logs into piles somewhat often...near houses and fences as well...I'd have my ground men clear that pile up every so often...big ol log dropping 50 feet hits another log and shoots off to the side...again...goin through a house, fence, or person...no bueno. Be safe man.
Not trying to preach bro...I'm 11 years in this and just passin on some advice. Everyone does things different but it never hurts to keep an open mind and try new things...have a good one!
Awesome wood for the Norm Abrams types, or a good wood burning stove. Sad to see it go in the mulcher.
boy this shit is fun don't worry about the manual labor as long as you like it labor is just a game
(what I've learned about nicking plastic wedges, is, that they serve plenty of purpose with the first couple inches chewed off....😝 no problemo)
LOL, that's good, because almost all of mine are that way =) I've actually got a couple new red head wedges in the tool box if I need them, just usually go for the gnarly ones to keep the ones in good shape, in good shape.
Are you ever gonna go fully self employed with your own business love ur vids
Best use of a GoPro yet!
You're ground guys need to learn to let some of them logs run man. That's how you get knocked out. Other than that, smooth on your part. Good job.
Jason Webb I see what you are saying by that but you also have to think about it if you would have let some of them run they would have damaged the house
I call BS on that!! There is plenty of room to let it run without hitting the house. A climber is a helluva lot more important than the house. At least let it run far enough to get below the climber then he can hold as long as he wants. These ground guys don't understand that by holding it they are doing the worst possible thing they can do! They need to be up with a climber one time to see how dangerous this is and then maybe they will understand it much better when their ass is on the line!!!!!
Awesome video brother
You make it look so easy but I know it's hard as hell ball busting and scary
Yeah, a 4" chipper and a pickup does wonders for the brush and the rest is logs
That’s the boat I’m in right now straight physical labor but hey I’ve been doing it since I was 14 so I ain’t new to this shit, I’m true to this shit 😂
You two make a great crew. keep it up man! your on the right road!
That saw is running great.
I was wondering where the chipper truck and trailer were at. Also, I thought a couple of those huge branches were going to hit your truck.
I don't have a chip truck/chipper, this was a side job so just have my own tools available.
your cuts are getting really good.
great video
Love the video. I hope to have a tree service after Army life.
definately get the insurance. in my area premiums are dirt cheap.
Great that you pay well for the people that help you earn, you gained my sub.
Hey mate was wondering what bigger saw u had up in the tree with u to bring the bigger limbs down . atm I can't decide between grabbing a 462 or a 36 to go along with my 201 .. Cheers
Hey, I was just curious, towards the end of your video, were you using a ms 661c-m? I couldn't see the flywheel side of the saw, but the startup sounded alot like how mine sounds when I first start it up?
Heart sank when he laid the saw on his rope
What saw was that you were using Matey, Nice work Mate. I really think your, your own harshest critic don't listen to lounge room lizards at anytime, I am into Horses amongst other things and friends with one of the Best this Country has ever made and he always used to say when they are standing in front of me at the Pay window rather than behind me then I might listen
Was a 200T, 362, and 661
Cool thanks for that Matey have an awesome day
Nice work!
A tree "Surgeon" with great skill.
You gotta find a sawmill or woodshop to sell those trunks to for a few bucks off removal expenses.
ZipKickGo would be nice, from what I've heard though mills won't take urban lumber, too much risk of embedded objects.
My question is why do you not give it some rope as soon as it is cut,instead of letting it hang and swing, , get it goin down out of the way safer.its all in the timing and friction.
Below your feet
Your last comment about chipper and lot's of maual labor. That's where I am at now. I need a truck, chipper and eventually a skid loader with claw and I should be very well off. Beyond that a bucket truck. Hope you are moving forward. Until next time.
What did you make on this one hoss,your editing is superb
Why is this so entertaining and how did i find this video
Not to bad. The one big branch u thought was a mistake worked better since it went butt down first. And ur grounds man needs a little work on the porter wrap to get it to run to stay away from you.
Yeah, kept it away from the house well that way, wasn't planned though, so something I need to do better next time. Judging center of gravity can be a bit tricky I feel, especially with a bunch of foliage on the tips, much heavier than my intuition tells me usually.
Human yeah wasnt to bad. Everything comes into the thought process. The diameter how long how the spread is. Definitely a challenge but was clean. Grounds man needs a little help for a few days on how many wraps. And u seem like ur getting better with the line up of ur face cuts.
i would never have the balls to record my side job and put it out there for my boss to see
awesome job man ur one of the best ive seen keep it up
So for those who do not know what a side job is let me clarify, a side job is when an employee under bids his employer or when someone asks him to do a job for less money. So here is what you get when you hire someone outside of a legitimate company. First your are hiring someone with no insurance, meaning you as the homeowner are not only liable for any damage to your home or others but also when your cheap bid falls, cuts himself or someone else, also when a log or debris hits and does damage or kills someone, all this falls on you! Now you might ask how do I know this, well because I’ve been on both sides of this, I actually turned it into a business. So next time you think you want to save some money first ask yourselves is it worth the gamble.
For a climber, putting on the ground is the ez part. Cleaning it up sucks ass. I made a shitload of money freelancing for for landscapers and let them clean up the mess.
That was some nice work man...
the key to not fucking up is to make smaller cuts when there shit near the drop zone. also when that 362 breaks in send it to brad snelling or jack from hotsaws101. when you get it back slap a 28 inch bar with full skip semi chisel on there, it'll cut some wood then
28" on a 362 is a tad funny. Why in the hell would you climb with a 28" bar?
Samuel Luria for the same reason people climb with stihl 880s and husky 3120s with 41-59 inch bars. big tree big bar. it makes things go smoother and reduces risk of making mistakes cutting
Right. I've climbed with 88' and 90's many times.... just don't see how that pertains to the 362...
You did a great job
You know me Corey, I'm always honest, good or bad. I know you were green here, so I'll be nice. Your cuts were sloppy as hell, which means you didn't position your self correctly. This is the first job that I've ever seen the groundie do better than the climber, kudo's for him, he worked his ass off. I'm glad you've grown.
I miss cutting that black oak come to honulolo thats a 8 thousand dollar tree makes good barbecue wood
what do you use for the cleanup? for my small little family company, we use a standard, 8x6 trailer with a 6-foot rise. and when we clean up what we do is; once we add the brush in, we then compact it by cutting the branches down to make more room.. the poor man's chipper is what I call it. We separate the large from the small that way the cutting is faster and easier. I am able to fit quite a lot in my little trailer. after hearing this took you and your pops 9 hours to clean up I just wanted to share my 2 cents and hopefully, i may have helped.
At the time I was using a tandem trailer, being pulled by my dads 1/2 ton, so we had to make quite a few trips. Since then I picked up the duramax, and my buddy bought a huge dump trailer he lets me use, so it would've been much quicker now. I do the same as you though, load it up, cut it up in the trailer, load it up again =)
Dont miss the carpenter ants tho
That was so smooth..... have you ever dropped a saw when your in the tree
Your very good and smart. Hope you make your own business and it takes off!
He's a Navy Man. What do you expect?!?
Wow! you did a really good job for that person!
Rick I
Congrats on 100k!
Your an exelent worker my friend. I like this video.
Im from sweden and more ore less raised with a huskey chainsaw. It isnt the big ones that are dangerous it the small ones and that you are getting cookey. How many trees do you have to process to pay for damage on your car. Put it away.