What I don't like in Prismatic is the fact that usual illustrations are replaced with pokeball and masterball and it just doesn't feel like a "hit" for me, even if it technically is.
1/1440 is inaccurate. It's more like 1/2240. God packs skewed the tcgplayer number. It hurts that people believe the 1/45 number when literally every opening proves that wrong...
I’m worried the reprint won’t be this max capacity thing like they make it sound. They have a lot coming out this year there will also be printing how can they manage it all.
Like you've said, this set is great but it's hard to justify opening packs atm - so I'm personally waiting for an undervalued set with Treecko and Mudkip to open!
I’ve been really unlucky with my pulls. Opened 2 etbs and one binder. Haven’t pulled one master ball yet. Got one full art Larry and 4 regular ex cards. The pokeballs have all been repeats for me of sneasel, black belt trainer, and cottonee. Only got one good pokeball card and it was Eevee.
It's possible Opened 1 ETB and 1 Binder and got 1 houndar masterball a couple cool ex and a SIR Eevee the one with the flowers but my sister didn't pull shit xD with her ETB and Binder so it happens
@@lastplayer5838 about £50 i would not pay scalper prices if i miss out i miss out! Theres tomuch to collect nowdays so i would buy what u like not jump on the hype train most influencers are paid withproduct to open and hype certain cards up which in some cases you could open 1000 packs and still not pull the chase card now how much mo ey have you wasted or lost probably get some stick for this comment but the TRUTH HURTS hope this was informative
So managed to pull the Umbreon ex in my first etb and now feel no need to open any more. Happy to be able to keep the remaining boxes I have sealed. Feeling blessed 😊
I’m totally fine if people invest into sealed product and hold it for a few years, exactly what you’re saying. But when currently printed sets are being yiked in price, it’s frustrating. I’m getting in to collecting because it’s something my kids and I can bond over, and we have a blast with it. I’m hoping to build the same appreciation in them as I have from when I was a kid. Though it gets disheartening on days like today when we are in Target and my son wasn’t to go check out the pokemon card section and I have to tell him it’s completely empty.
Where are you getting your 1 in 45 packs for an SIR in Prismatic Evolutions? I have heard from multiple other sources and I have watched many live breaks and openings and I feel like it is more like temporal forces pull rates, which is like 1 in 72-80 packs per SIR. Not saying you are wrong, I just wonder where you got your data from. Thanks for the content man! As always!
@phillips.collectibles I guess still thats like 1 in every 5 ETBs. So 2 per case of ETBs. Being that their is no booster boxes of this set that actually sounds pretty close or realistic to me. Thanks man.
Danny Phantump has mentioned how he thinks this TCG pull rate number may be due to people getting demigod or god packs which would count as 3 or 9 SIRs at once. Cuz I agree, it def seems closer to 1 in 80-85 packs.
I’m not a huge card collector since I only collect the older WotC sets, though something about Team Rocket cards just stands out so I’m anxious to see their new set!
I said it before prismatic dropped that this set would just be a self fulfilling prophecy for investors, everyone hyped up how valuable it would be and how collectible this set would be before it even hit stores and now look at it, prismatic has cooked it so hard that the cookage spilled into basically every other modern set. Buuuut I guess this is what happens when every second person engaging with the hobby is doing so from an investor pov....
Phil, have you used the TCG player pull rate data as the basis the pull rates you used in this video? If so, they classed a God Pack (9 SIRS) as being 9 separate packs, and that isn't right. Any data based on that just isn't accurate.
I like the arts in Prismatic, but the hype to me is trying to price in the success of Evolving Skies and say Prismatic should be the same price as a 3 year old Evolving Skies BB which is just silly. And that is because Prismatic is kinda trying to be Evolving Skies, the OG
Seeing people shocked it went down in price which is just...like anyone could have predicted that. Then the same people go, "but it should shoot up even more way above where it was!" and I just, smh
Yea… I’m not one to shake when I pull something.. I might scream a little for a second but if I were to pull a god pack I think I’d actually have a heart attack with this set.. and I hate being that guy but it’s knowing I just ripped a pack worth more than 2 months salary with all PSA 10s 😂
@@lemonysnicket1211 that’s crazy that many people are hyping those cards up. Personally I don’t like the rainbow borders and I am not a big fan of the teraform gimmick. So those cards are a big pass for me, but those other sir’s, o my goodness I need the gold string cheese, the feather dragon, the ghost dragon, the metal sumo wrestler, the giraffe beast, the futuristic British soldier, and eri lol
It is wrong for people to be fighting in stores over toys, cards, electronics, clothes, & etc. Also, it's not unheard of, has happened on Black Friday, & other certain events where fights or worse happened over something of value to many. Lastly, it would be interesting if Pokémon made a deal with the F.B.I. to prevent Scalpers from reselling & put a warning on the box warning against reselling & a punishment of 2 or 5 years in federal prison.
Just sold everything i had. Although not a lot (just started in November) these singles prices are just insane man. Idk maybe its because I’m still in college and working a little less but lord its madness
This was my first thought when i started again collecting, why this sets are so near in time?? I just can't afford all of these new release! Luckily enough I made some preorders on prismatic, lucky me 🥳😂
Bought an ebt today for 140 for my kid....told her to not get her hopes up. Opened a demi god pack second one in. Sylveon sir umbreon sir and janines secret sir
End of day it is a good set with A LOT of amazing cards, pull rates can always be better close to Crown Zenith, but I think they will always be too much demand for this one
I promise this, this was all planned by the pokemon company no matter how you look at it they ar deciding the release date, the print and the relase of the product for distributors so its not the matter of how mich print its more how much release of print they are keeping becuase we have the other sets that are coming so prismatic its a big trouble for lots of people and its sad to see that its more for money than collecting and people actually fight and use violence to get 151 and prismatic products
Wait wtf that sucks.. but yea I opened only 6 I did get both but like 1 EX in 6 packs is crazy.. 1 master all 2 poke balls… that’s with 3 slots with possible hit.. how could anybody master set this without buying the singles and why would Pokémon want that.. I mean I guess they know people will still try to rip for it and it does create hype. But pokemon is the one selling their own set for cheapest no matter the demand 😂
@Mrchilipepper yeah I had insanely bad luck. But I agree, I'm just Gona avoid the set completely tbh. I think the way the set is isn't appealing. It's all or nothing and almost like gambling. My sons face says it all. He was not impressed and neither was I.
@ it’s really not and pokemon honestly might end up in a civil suit for marketing gambling to children the way the hit rates and god pack chases are going 😂.. I mean that eeveelutions god pack is like 3k for all the cards
@@Mrchilipepper yeah it's a big error by Pokémon. The hobby interest has never been higher and I think they will loose alot of future sales because of evolutions. The journey together set looks just as difficult to get hold of. I can't find any fair price boxes anywhere. I'm not paying £200 for a booster box pre release.
This set is an overall winner. Great short term hold, great long term hold, great chase cards, fun to rip. This will easily overtake ES within 5 years.
The fact that everybody keeps referring back to that PR statement as some good faith response from Pokémon is pretty foolish. We still haven’t seen re-prints of twilight masquerade or other sets moving forward. Journey together is going to be worse from what my local card shops have already stated their allocations are..
Comparing it to videogames is not the best choice… devs delaying the gane doesnt always mean a great game .. look at cyberpunk 2077 was a disaster after being delayed twice
10:20 to be fair bro, if you bought battle styles at 100 or less, you’re up over 60% in a few years. Not shabby at all compared to conventional investments. But I’m also not buying any more prismatic at these prices. Too much hype too soon and now we know Pokémon is gonna make a point to print more
@@phillips.collectibles give it time Phillip. Booster box still on Pokémon center. P.s. not saying it’ll be a top sword and shield set, just saying it’s not done growing. Also first ever alt art sword and shield set (historically interesting) and there will be people like me down the line that want at least one of every alt art booster box, so I think there will be enough demand down the line. Plus, streamers wanting to chase the sleepy tyranitar. Empoleon alt art no slouch either
I hate this set it just feels un fun cause of the cost and I gotta say SIRs do not feel one 1 in 40s at all. I’ve watched a metric ton opened just cause I can’t spend this amount of money on this set and I’m seeing streams where most of the time 0 are pulled, same with TH-cam vids. I’ve seen way more gold than air easy lol.
Yes it is a waste of money. The evee cards are not eye appealing it is actually eye sore sadness. It actually makes me sick and disappointed thank goodness I don’t have to invest in it anymore. Invest moonbreon to the moon!!!!
Eeveelutions ex's sir are so overrated they don't look good at all they are just cropped onto a generic background compared to v/VMAX alt arts or tg/GG cards they are ugly
I really do hope Pokemon both International and Japan decide "hey Pokemon is really exceeding our expectations for releases. We should change our 3 month interval releases to 6 months so we can focus on reprinting the new releases." But they need the relevance of the game to sell new sets so they might not want to wait that long between sets. But even if they added an extra month between new releases would be huge to help with reprints.
Its actually scary when there is a launch. I was in a small town at the time and grown men were running to get the product. Can’t take your kids to that. It is a nice set though. 🩷
What I don't like in Prismatic is the fact that usual illustrations are replaced with pokeball and masterball and it just doesn't feel like a "hit" for me, even if it technically is.
100% agree.
@@kassandrabouchard 💯%
1/1440 is inaccurate. It's more like 1/2240. God packs skewed the tcgplayer number. It hurts that people believe the 1/45 number when literally every opening proves that wrong...
This ! Seem a ton opened some openings 100s of packs no SIR I see more gold even.
I find it hard to believe its 1/45
I am waiting for the roaring moon sir to be like $100 and the dragonpult for like $50-$70
Would love that Roaring Moon! GOAT Artwork
Same here really want the roaring moon
I did not wait. I bought them for 12 and 28 bucks in Terastal Festival instead
I wonder if the scramble for the Pokemon Company to reprint will cause a lot more QA/misprint/miscut issues. Just a thought
I always suspect so
I’m worried the reprint won’t be this max capacity thing like they make it sound. They have a lot coming out this year there will also be printing how can they manage it all.
Like you've said, this set is great but it's hard to justify opening packs atm - so I'm personally waiting for an undervalued set with Treecko and Mudkip to open!
Totally agree, we need that treecko IR
I’ve been really unlucky with my pulls. Opened 2 etbs and one binder. Haven’t pulled one master ball yet. Got one full art Larry and 4 regular ex cards. The pokeballs have all been repeats for me of sneasel, black belt trainer, and cottonee. Only got one good pokeball card and it was Eevee.
It's possible Opened 1 ETB and 1 Binder and got 1 houndar masterball a couple cool ex and a SIR Eevee the one with the flowers but my sister didn't pull shit xD with her ETB and Binder so it happens
This set at MSRP you can't go wrong. Id buy all day long
Got one today last one £15.99 poster set with 3 booster packs no point opening it as pull retes are crap
What is a good price for an etb?
@@lastplayer5838 about £50 i would not pay scalper prices if i miss out i miss out! Theres tomuch to collect nowdays so i would buy what u like not jump on the hype train most influencers are paid withproduct to open and hype certain cards up which in some cases you could open 1000 packs and still not pull the chase card now how much mo ey have you wasted or lost probably get some stick for this comment but the TRUTH HURTS hope this was informative
So managed to pull the Umbreon ex in my first etb and now feel no need to open any more. Happy to be able to keep the remaining boxes I have sealed. Feeling blessed 😊
Good take, and I agree. Prismatic Evolutions is standing on the shoulders of a giant, Evolving Skies.
Set is pretty overrated to be honest, a lot of older better sets‼️💥💯
Keep telling yourself that while prices go up for every set
I’m totally fine if people invest into sealed product and hold it for a few years, exactly what you’re saying. But when currently printed sets are being yiked in price, it’s frustrating.
I’m getting in to collecting because it’s something my kids and I can bond over, and we have a blast with it. I’m hoping to build the same appreciation in them as I have from when I was a kid.
Though it gets disheartening on days like today when we are in Target and my son wasn’t to go check out the pokemon card section and I have to tell him it’s completely empty.
We need to accept that the prismatic etb is realistically worthless. Shit pull rates and stop paying triple.
Im buying singles for life
Where are you getting your 1 in 45 packs for an SIR in Prismatic Evolutions? I have heard from multiple other sources and I have watched many live breaks and openings and I feel like it is more like temporal forces pull rates, which is like 1 in 72-80 packs per SIR. Not saying you are wrong, I just wonder where you got your data from. Thanks for the content man! As always!
Hey! This is the pull rate data from TCGplayer
@phillips.collectibles I guess still thats like 1 in every 5 ETBs. So 2 per case of ETBs. Being that their is no booster boxes of this set that actually sounds pretty close or realistic to me. Thanks man.
Danny Phantump has mentioned how he thinks this TCG pull rate number may be due to people getting demigod or god packs which would count as 3 or 9 SIRs at once. Cuz I agree, it def seems closer to 1 in 80-85 packs.
@@KJPrez10 this is interesting, that makes sense as it seems public sentiment is that it’s far more difficult
Yeah that number is aaaaabsolute bullshit lol
I’m not a huge card collector since I only collect the older WotC sets, though something about Team Rocket cards just stands out so I’m anxious to see their new set!
I think we all can't wait for the Team Rocket Set!
I said it before prismatic dropped that this set would just be a self fulfilling prophecy for investors, everyone hyped up how valuable it would be and how collectible this set would be before it even hit stores and now look at it, prismatic has cooked it so hard that the cookage spilled into basically every other modern set. Buuuut I guess this is what happens when every second person engaging with the hobby is doing so from an investor pov....
Prismatic will be a top 5 all time set & the PC etbs will most likely be top 3 PC etb of all time as well
Watching Pokerev's PE openings I seriously doubt that Special Illustration pull rate to be accurate
Yeah. I opened around 86 packs and got 0 SIRs. I'm begining to wonder if we're getting another Fusion Strike situation.
Yeah isnt it funny how different pull rate data can be to when you actually do it yourself.
Phil, have you used the TCG player pull rate data as the basis the pull rates you used in this video? If so, they classed a God Pack (9 SIRS) as being 9 separate packs, and that isn't right. Any data based on that just isn't accurate.
Yes it was TCGplayer but it seems god packs have skewed the data and the 1 in 45 isn’t accurate on face value
Yeah, its so silly, If they dont have enough product, just push the release date back a bit and build up inventory.
Evolving skies is Just a masterpiece compared to traumatic evolutions, As we call this set in italy 😂
I like the arts in Prismatic, but the hype to me is trying to price in the success of Evolving Skies and say Prismatic should be the same price as a 3 year old Evolving Skies BB which is just silly. And that is because Prismatic is kinda trying to be Evolving Skies, the OG
Facts. Master set completes should buy the cards individually- it’d be way cheaper
Seeing people shocked it went down in price which is just...like anyone could have predicted that. Then the same people go, "but it should shoot up even more way above where it was!" and I just, smh
I agree with avoiding, but it's so tempting with all these cool Eeveelutions!
Yea… I’m not one to shake when I pull something.. I might scream a little for a second but if I were to pull a god pack I think I’d actually have a heart attack with this set.. and I hate being that guy but it’s knowing I just ripped a pack worth more than 2 months salary with all PSA 10s 😂
Evolving skies is 10000 better than this set bruh
@@lemonysnicket1211 that’s crazy that many people are hyping those cards up. Personally I don’t like the rainbow borders and I am not a big fan of the teraform gimmick. So those cards are a big pass for me, but those other sir’s, o my goodness I need the gold string cheese, the feather dragon, the ghost dragon, the metal sumo wrestler, the giraffe beast, the futuristic British soldier, and eri lol
It is wrong for people to be fighting in stores over toys, cards, electronics, clothes, & etc. Also, it's not unheard of, has happened on Black Friday, & other certain events where fights or worse happened over something of value to many. Lastly, it would be interesting if Pokémon made a deal with the F.B.I. to prevent Scalpers from reselling & put a warning on the box warning against reselling & a punishment of 2 or 5 years in federal prison.
Just sold everything i had. Although not a lot (just started in November) these singles prices are just insane man. Idk maybe its because I’m still in college and working a little less but lord its madness
Yeah, though it will be interesting to see how many sets can maintain such high prices for extended periods of time.
This was my first thought when i started again collecting, why this sets are so near in time?? I just can't afford all of these new release! Luckily enough I made some preorders on prismatic, lucky me 🥳😂
Bought an ebt today for 140 for my kid....told her to not get her hopes up. Opened a demi god pack second one in. Sylveon sir umbreon sir and janines secret sir
End of day it is a good set with A LOT of amazing cards, pull rates can always be better close to Crown Zenith, but I think they will always be too much demand for this one
The pull rate is 100% fake due to the god packs ...
When is the new team rocket set going to be released?
I promise this, this was all planned by the pokemon company no matter how you look at it they ar deciding the release date, the print and the relase of the product for distributors so its not the matter of how mich print its more how much release of print they are keeping becuase we have the other sets that are coming so prismatic its a big trouble for lots of people and its sad to see that its more for money than collecting and people actually fight and use violence to get 151 and prismatic products
I Pulled Espeon 13 packs into Prismatic lmao Guess I got super lucky.
Where is the singlet!?
I have been only buying from target and at that price I have no problem ripping packs
Skyrocketing prices, ppl grabbing sets hand over fist, FOMO = Stay away fr the mkt
me getting tergapos SIR thinking it was eeveelutions ;-;
This set has so much hype that it has put a bad taste in our mouth. I honestly and just preparing for what is next until prismatic is more available.
I'm sure the next set will be incredible….but what about the stock?!
For me, the pull rates are the worst thing about this set. I've opened around 50 packs and got literally nothing. Not even a masterball or ex card.
Wait wtf that sucks.. but yea I opened only 6 I did get both but like 1 EX in 6 packs is crazy.. 1 master all 2 poke balls… that’s with 3 slots with possible hit.. how could anybody master set this without buying the singles and why would Pokémon want that.. I mean I guess they know people will still try to rip for it and it does create hype. But pokemon is the one selling their own set for cheapest no matter the demand 😂
@Mrchilipepper yeah I had insanely bad luck. But I agree, I'm just Gona avoid the set completely tbh. I think the way the set is isn't appealing. It's all or nothing and almost like gambling. My sons face says it all. He was not impressed and neither was I.
@ it’s really not and pokemon honestly might end up in a civil suit for marketing gambling to children the way the hit rates and god pack chases are going 😂.. I mean that eeveelutions god pack is like 3k for all the cards
@@Mrchilipepper yeah it's a big error by Pokémon. The hobby interest has never been higher and I think they will loose alot of future sales because of evolutions. The journey together set looks just as difficult to get hold of. I can't find any fair price boxes anywhere. I'm not paying £200 for a booster box pre release.
check yr karma.
I opened one pack. And got one sir. This set is easy.
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Im kidding i also need to check my karma
This set is an overall winner. Great short term hold, great long term hold, great chase cards, fun to rip. This will easily overtake ES within 5 years.
it is a winner if you bought at mrsp
If you bought at retail, 100%, however if you're buying at the current prices, maybe not.
@@OsmosisMaple 100%
@@phillips.collectibles I completely agree
Fun to rip is a take detached from reality lol
The fact that everybody keeps referring back to that PR statement as some good faith response from Pokémon is pretty foolish. We still haven’t seen re-prints of twilight masquerade or other sets moving forward. Journey together is going to be worse from what my local card shops have already stated their allocations are..
target has TM etbs again after being out of stock
Comparing it to videogames is not the best choice… devs delaying the gane doesnt always mean a great game .. look at cyberpunk 2077 was a disaster after being delayed twice
Should I sell pokemon center prismatic etb? No pokemon center restock and its going for 300-400
I would
buying in the current situation one only supports the already bad turn this has gotten and it's not going to get any better.
10:20 to be fair bro, if you bought battle styles at 100 or less, you’re up over 60% in a few years. Not shabby at all compared to conventional investments. But I’m also not buying any more prismatic at these prices. Too much hype too soon and now we know Pokémon is gonna make a point to print more
Yeah for sure, but I suppose it comes to choices at the time. At the same time you could have chosen between Battle Styles or Chilling Reign
@ lol ya, I went heavier into chilling reign too. Maybe I like diversifying too much lol. Love that sleeping tyranitar tho
@ Its weird cause that sleeping Tyranitar and the Urshifu Alt are seriously awesome. It just never picked up.
@@phillips.collectibles give it time Phillip. Booster box still on Pokémon center. P.s. not saying it’ll be a top sword and shield set, just saying it’s not done growing. Also first ever alt art sword and shield set (historically interesting) and there will be people like me down the line that want at least one of every alt art booster box, so I think there will be enough demand down the line. Plus, streamers wanting to chase the sleepy tyranitar. Empoleon alt art no slouch either
It's not kinda gross, it's just out right gross
I’m still trying to get at least 1 pack 😭
I hate this set it just feels un fun cause of the cost and I gotta say SIRs do not feel one 1 in 40s at all.
I’ve watched a metric ton opened just cause I can’t spend this amount of money on this set and I’m seeing streams where most of the time 0 are pulled, same with TH-cam vids. I’ve seen way more gold than air easy lol.
Not me who already wasted money on this set. Bit too late? 🤡
Yes it is a waste of money. The evee cards are not eye appealing it is actually eye sore sadness. It actually makes me sick and disappointed thank goodness I don’t have to invest in it anymore. Invest moonbreon to the moon!!!!
Bro you talk about the same over and over again 😬👎🏼
Yes.
Eeveelutions ex's sir are so overrated they don't look good at all they are just cropped onto a generic background compared to v/VMAX alt arts or tg/GG cards they are ugly
I really do hope Pokemon both International and Japan decide "hey Pokemon is really exceeding our expectations for releases. We should change our 3 month interval releases to 6 months so we can focus on reprinting the new releases." But they need the relevance of the game to sell new sets so they might not want to wait that long between sets. But even if they added an extra month between new releases would be huge to help with reprints.
Why evertime dramatic
Alpha
I’m new,is it wise to getting this game,I heard it’s tough bruu
2nd
Idk they got me… I got an ETB and poster collection and ripped them got a Leafeon EX and Masterball Reverse Eevee. Praying for some good PSA grades 🤣
1st
Its actually scary when there is a launch. I was in a small town at the time and grown men were running to get the product. Can’t take your kids to that. It is a nice set though. 🩷